[Veritas-bu] NDMP backups

2011-11-01 Thread oersted
forget NDMP with Isilon.there is much better method, which I have only done 
with NFS.

Take your media server and hard mount UNC to each individual node.

take the number of subdirectories in the root and divide by the number of nodes

yes it might not be an even number, but you'll have slight imbalance..1

yes...you could script to check for subs in root and chop it up evenly and 
update backup selections

Or, if you have tight controls where you work...anytime storage admin creates a 
new subdirectory in root, you are notified to rebalance backup selections.

then set backup selections as follows

For example: you have four nodes and 16 subs

NEW_STREAM

//unc-path-node1/ifs/directories 1-4

NEW_STREAM
//unc-path-node2/ifs/directories 5-8

NEW_STREAM
//unc-path-node3/ifs/directories 9-12

NEW_STREAM
//unc-path-node4/ifs/directories 13-16


what this winds up doing is making the Isilon use its backplane (Infiniband) 
between nodes because that's what its meant for...the collective throughput of 
many connections to many nodes being hit all at once.

10GbE on media server really rips!!

I've seen 500+ MB per seond

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[Veritas-bu] Master Server Migration

2011-11-01 Thread oersted
Question for all:

Shouldn't you disjoin the old master from the domain after you perform catalog 
backup and then join domain with new master with same hostname/IP before 
installing NBU?

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[Veritas-bu] Server OS and NBU upgrades

2011-03-21 Thread oersted
your bits are changing to Windows x64 2008, right?

I wouldn't waste time with 32-bit Windows at all going forward

get current machine on 6.5.6

cold catalog backup

have new machine ready with 2008...same hostname

recover catalog to new box/OS

test backups and restores

wait a couple of weeks..then upgrade to 7.x

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[Veritas-bu] Failover server for resilience

2011-03-13 Thread oersted
boot from SAN, if available

identical hardware will operate as dead master, nothing stored on internal 
disks.

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[Veritas-bu] NDMP VTL direct copy

2009-09-21 Thread oersted

first, go to Hardware Compatibility List and check model and software version 
of VTL you are using.

Most Sun/STK VTL allow NDMP direct copy with VTL in shared drive mode, which 
means you need SSO.

Read NDMP admin guide for details on how to configure.also look for 
documentation updates for 6.5.

Return for guidance if you can't make sense of it all







Alexander Leikin wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 We are trying to implement NDMP direct copy duplication, but cannot 
 find documentation how to do it. 
 We have SUN STK VTL library and physical library all connected to 
 one fabric. 
 We need to get vault duplication process working to copy images 
 from VTL to physical library. 
 I created NDMP hosts, but data is not moving in right direction. 
 
 
 Any help will be really appreciated. 
 
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[Veritas-bu] NDMP NetApp vfiler millions of files...

2009-09-21 Thread oersted

how many volumes do you have the millions of files spread across?

large files? small files?

how wide is the directory structure?

how many disks (raid groups) are volume(s) spread accross?

how many tape drives are available to the netapp?

are the files largely static?

we can get better throughput with some tricks, but there will be a limit which 
will likely be unacceptable for the backup window

such is the Netapp



ramjet666 wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We are trying to backup a file system containing hundreds of thousands of 
 folders and millions of files.
 
 This data has recently been transferred from a windows 2003 box to a vfiler 
 running on a NetApp fas 3020. We are using NDMP from filer to LTO4 and 
 getting 6300 KB/Sec.
 
 I know its the amount of files causing the issue, the only thing we can think 
 of is robocopying the data to a LUN and backing up a snapshot of it. Seems 
 long winded to me.
 
 Is there any way to increase the backup performance?
 
 
 Cheers.


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[Veritas-bu] Anyone reliably using a STK L1400 Tape Silo with 9940B tape

2009-09-17 Thread oersted

disable Fast Load on the L1400 through the front panel

hit menu key I think its under library config if I remember correctly.

do you get any SCSI errors in the OS logs?





JBrownell wrote:
 Just coming back from our DR where we end up using a different tape silo than 
 we have at home. At home we have a STK SL8500 silo and at DR we use a STK 
 L1400.  According to the DR provider this used to be 2 L700's and they were 
 combined together to make the L1400.  Ever since they moved us to this L1400 
 we have had many issues with the library dropping the drives, dropping 
 communications back to our master server and randomly not restoing all of the 
 selected data during NetBackup restore jobs.  This test we had everything up 
 and running quickly at the start, ran for about 20 hours then lost everything 
 and it took us and NetBackup support about 20 hours to get NetBackup to 
 reconnect to the silo again.
 
 Any insight or similar experiences would be appreciated .  Thanks.


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[Veritas-bu] Fragment size for LTO4 on NBU 6.x

2009-09-16 Thread oersted

tape drive will use LOCATE BLOCK to first file to restore, then search from 
there.





wdlb5359 wrote:
 What are people using for the fragment size on LTO4 (or I guess LTO3) with 
 NBU 6.x?
 
 I ask because the default is 1TB, i.e. more or less don't fragment.
 
 The argument for a large fragment is that the backup doesn't have to stop 
 so often as it does briefly at the end of each fragment to update the 
 Master, and also the inter-fragment file markers waste space..though 
 that's hardly a consideration on such large tapes now.
 
 The argument for a small fragment was that the tape can position at full 
 speed to the file marker for the appropriate fragment for a restore, 
 rather than reading the tar file from the top at read speed, which for a 
 large tape could be a very long time.
 
 We used to (dating back to DLT7000) set a 2GB fragment, as back then this 
 was thought a good idea in case you wanted to dd the tape to disk and read 
 it without NetBackup.  UNIX file systems did not take files  2GB.  Well I 
 can't say we ever tried it and it's a silly small size now.
 
 But what are people using - 100GB?  200GB?  Does it really make a 
 difference...
 
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[Veritas-bu] VCB vs Netbackup VCB Integrated

2009-08-31 Thread oersted

make sure VM disks are not in independent mode...this will prevent snapshots.

make sure vmtools is on all vms.

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[Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-08-31 Thread oersted

you could try priming the filesystem cache by doing a dir /s prior to backup.

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[Veritas-bu] LTO4 Crypto issue

2009-08-31 Thread oersted

do any of the LTO4 drives in any environment work?

did you update st driver?

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[Veritas-bu] Reg: LTO3

2009-03-25 Thread oersted

no need to enable compression in the policy, in fact it should not be 
checked...only in the device name you choose (/dev/rmt/Xcbn)

something changed or you are sparking the chronic

please post proof of this

oersted


ramaswamy savi wrote:
 Hi ALL, 
 
 We have 2 LTO3 standlone Tape drive connected via SCSI cable in Sunfire-V890 
 server and same configured via Netbackup 6.0 MP5. From previous week onwards, 
 LTO3 tape drive are capable of writing only 400GB, it's not exceeding more 
 than 400GB. Compression enabled in policy also. Pls provide solution ASAP. We 
 tested the same in New tape ( HP Ultrium LTO3) also, but still its writing 
 only 400 GB and throwing an error requesting any new media 
 
 Eailer 700 GB were able to write the data in HP LTO3 drive
 
 No changes made in configuration file also, so pls provide solution ASAP. 
 
 Tape drive : LTO3 Sun MicroSystem
 Tape Model : HP Ultrium LTO3/ 800GB rw 
 
 Regards,
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[Veritas-bu] single initiator zoning

2009-03-03 Thread oersted

Your harping is well founded...I know of no one, of any real merit, that 
doesn't use SIZ. Tell your SAN admin to hook it up correctly.




Geyer, Gregory wrote:
 I believe our SAN admin has one zone which includes all the tape drives and 
 all the HBAs for the media servers. Makes it easy for him. 
 But we have performance problems. And there is one other zone I think with 
 just a couple of HBAs in it that performs very well. I've been harping on 
 zoning as a possible cause to our problems and have run across this in 
 Brocade's Zoning Best Practice guide (link provided below). 
 Are there Netbackup environments out there with one large zone containing 
 many HBAs on it that isn't having performance problems? I've been trying to 
 lobby to get that fixed, or at least tested further. 
 The meat of the pdf is:  
 The recommended grouping method for Zoning is Single Initiator Zoning (SIZ), 
 sometimes 
 called “Single HBA Zoning.” With SIZ, each zone has only a single HBA and one 
 or more 
 storage ports. If the HBA has both disk and tape storage devices, then you 
 need to create two 
 zones: one zone with the HBA and the disk devices and a second zone with the 
 HBA and the 
 tape devices. SIZ is optimal because it prevents any host-to-host interaction 
 and limits RSCNs 
 to just the zones that need the information within the RSCN.  
 and the link:  
 http://www.boche.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/Zoning_Best_Practices_WP-00.pdf
  
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[Veritas-bu] Solaris 10 run Netbackup cannot detect Sun StorageTekSL48??

2009-02-11 Thread oersted


KinAn wrote:
 :D  i have finished all, now netbackup running.
 
 Thank for every support, thank you, thank you..


You can disable mpxio on a per-port basis instead of globalafter all you do 
have disk attached and may want/need multipathing to the disk. Use a separate 
HBA for the tape and changer that is outside the control of mpxio.

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[Veritas-bu] Why can't my backups fill up a tape?

2008-11-19 Thread oersted

do your policies name a specific storage unit, or use any available, or choose 
from a group?


BlueChris69 wrote:
 I have noticed that my backups appear to use new tapes even though there is 
 still quite a lot of room available on the tapes. I have set the policies to 
 multi-stream and the storage units and schedules to multi-plex. Also the the 
 retention periods are all the same. I must be missing something but i can't 
 see what...It does appear to work throughout a week but for example there are 
 tapes from say last thursday with a lot of space on them and i expected them 
 to be used for last night's backups however it seems that NBU has picked out 
 new tapes to write to.
 
 So, am i missing the obvious?  [Wink] 
 
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[Veritas-bu] New media server added to existing configuration

2008-11-18 Thread oersted

use \\server\sharename for pathbasic disk storage unit only



ratheeshdas wrote:
 Hi All, 
 
 I am having a master/media server running on Solaris 9. The Netbackup version 
 is 6.5.1. I just installed a new windows 2003 media server 6.5.1. 
 
 1. Do I need to recycle services on master server after the new media server 
 is installed. 
 2. I am using CIFS share from data domain to use as DSU. When I created a new 
 test storage unit, I gave \datadomainsharename in the storage unit. Is this 
 correct? 
 3. I am getting 800 errors when firing test backup. 
 Error nbjm (pid=1150) NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down 
 resource request failed (800) 
 
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Ratheesh R Das
 M I N D S P E E D Technologies
 Storage and Backup | 949-579-5000
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[Veritas-bu] Encrypting offsite tapes

2008-11-11 Thread oersted

Decru is OK , but if you do a non-encrypted restore through it, its dog slow 
due to the fact they only dedicate 1/32 engine power to clear text restores. 
But since you have an onsite copy for that it won't matter...

What's your retention time?

That's the key to choosing a solution




Rongsheng Fang wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We duplicate backup images from disks/tapes to tapes weekly using  
 NetBackup vault and send the tapes offsite. We have a new requirement  
 for encrypting all the tapes going offsite. I understand that  
 NetBackup can do the encryption while the backup is being done. My  
 question is: is it possible to encrypt the images during the vault  
 process (or the duplication process of the vault)? How do you  
 implement the encryption in your backup environments?
 
 Our environment: NetBackup Enterprise 6.0MP4 on Solaris 10
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rongsheng
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[Veritas-bu] Encrypting offsite tapes

2008-11-11 Thread oersted

some people don't have to/want to encrypt everything (that's the point), and 
you can send a backup through the Decru in the clear(i.e. you can trigger 
crypto from NBU pool number)if you restore from clear backups performance 
is degraded. Confirmed issue, but a non-issue for most people. It can also be 
architected away..



ewilts wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:07 PM, oersted netbackup-forum  at  
 backupcentral.com (netbackup-forum  at  backupcentral.com) wrote:
 
   Decru is OK , but if you do a non-encrypted restore through it, its dog 
  slow due to the fact they only dedicate 1/32 engine power to clear text 
  restores. 
 
 What's a non-encrypted restore? A restore from an unencrypted tape? If so, 
 we've never seen this alleged dog slow since *all* of our tapes are 
 encrypted.
 
 What's the point of buying encryption appliances and writing clear-text 
 tapes? 
 
 
 
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[Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-07 Thread oersted

if you can wait a little while , there will be some interesting solutions in 
this arena soon. 


Robin Small wrote:
 Thanks to the folks that commented on EMC's Avamar, it was helpful. 
 
 I'm curious now about DataDomain  Quantum DXi.  
 
 We run XioTech SANs and they're bundling a DD960(something) head on to the 
 XioTech SAN. 
 We're also using ADIC (now Quantum) for our Tape hardware. So those two 
 bubbled up to the top. 
 
 I'm meeting with our Quantum sales  engineer guys on Monday to talk about 
 it, and I was watching a DD/XioTech webinar about their offering that looks 
 cool. Both look appealing. 
 
 I'm curious for the dedup users out there what your experience has been with 
 either DD or Quantum. 
 
 I've been poking through Curtis' blogs about the subject, so I get it that 
 the Quantum can do either inline or post, and the DD is pure inline. My RPO 
 isn't as critical (most of my users are happy with the prior night's data), 
 so PostProcessing isn't a game-changer. 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 ~ Robin


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[Veritas-bu] Need tips for setting sun fire x4500 as media server for LAN

2008-11-07 Thread oersted

do you have access to 10GbE?

how much data are you backing up?

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[Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

2008-10-29 Thread oersted

I can think of no good reason to VM a master server, other than because I can 
or because I want to.

leave it be



Schneider, Matthew J. wrote:
 Anyone have any update on weather or not the master alone is supported as a 
 VM?
 Havent raised the question to Symantec rep yet. Thanks!
 
 Sry for the double email Kate ;)
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthew J. Schneider
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-bounces  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
 [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
 Honeybrook, Kate
 Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:54 PM
 To: Holowinski, Scott; Curtis Preston; VERITAS-BU  at  
 mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers
 
 As I said earlier we currently have our master server virtualised under
 ESX and it was setup by Symantec themselves. Therefore I was under the
 impression that virtualizing a master server is supported, but media
 server is not due to the I/O.
 
 Regards,
 
 Kate Honeybrook
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-bounces  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
 Holowinski, Scott
 Sent: Monday, 26 May 2008 8:07 AM
 To: Curtis Preston; VERITAS-BU  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers
 
 I  called support about this because it was something my company was
 interested in doing (Virtualizing just the master) and was told that it
 would be supported eventually and though they could not promise a date,
 it could be as early as the first quarter of next year for ESX and
 Hypervisor.
 
 I was also told that if you work with your Symantec rep you might be
 able to get a support exception for a virtual master server.
 
 
  From the responses on the board I am guessing no one else has called
  
 recently or I got a rouge tech to answer my question.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Curtis Preston [mailto:cpreston  at  glasshouse.com]
 Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM
 To: VERITAS-BU  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers
 
 Because many people use their master server as a media server.
 Symantec's not going to support it as a master server unless it can also
 be a media server.
 
 
 
 Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection
 GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.
 
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 Infrastructure :: Optimized
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 bolongaro
 Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:27 AM
 To: VERITAS-BU  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers
 
 
 Hello everybody,
 ok it is not supported.
 
 It' clear for me... problems are related to robotics/san etc...
 
 But why do not support a Virtual Master Server if all robotics
 stuff is duty of a physical media server?
 
 regards,
 
 Andrea
 
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[Veritas-bu] could not write FILE ADDED message to stderr

2008-10-29 Thread oersted

I have seen this accompanied by network socket errors...do you see any of those?


Preston, Doug wrote:
 I am seeing a lot of the following message on one of my SAN media servers.  
 
 Error bpbrm(PID ###) could not write FILE ADDED message to stderr 
 
 Master and Media servers are win2k3 and running NBU 6.5.1, any idea what is 
 causing this and/or how to correct it? 
 
 
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[Veritas-bu] Poll: How many times do you use a cleaning tape?

2008-10-26 Thread oersted

okay, so it goes like this..

tape drive costs $10K

cleaning tape $75

use it half the amount of times they say to use it and you're always safe

and who cares?
 
at this point , you're navel gazing

next thread



jpiszcz wrote:
 Quick poll,
 
 While various errata state the cleaning tape usage count can be as high as 
 50, others state 25.  Currently we use Sun Universal Cleaning tapes 
 (CLNUXXCU) where XX = a number.  How many times do other people use their 
 cleaning tapes?  25, 50 or some other number of times?
 
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[Veritas-bu] Netapp NBU NDMP ?

2008-10-24 Thread oersted

what are your problems?




Michael wrote:
 Hello
 
 We have just had a presentation by Netapp and it seemed they could solve some 
 of our problems
 
 My question is how is your experience with Netapp  NBU NDMP ?
 
 Our setup is a MSCS Windows 2003 x64 master/media server, at NBU6.5.2A with 
 the nbpem EEB for x64
 
 Regards
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[Veritas-bu] NFS and Status 6

2008-10-22 Thread oersted

if NBU isn't at least 6.0MP6 or 6.5 SAP Agent does not support NFS

patch it



Reynolds, Susan K. wrote:
 We did this and had the same result.
 
 
 From: veritas-bu-bounces  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu on behalf of wrobbins
 Sent: Wed 10/22/2008 1:27 PM
 To: VERITAS-BU  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] NFS and Status 6
 
 
 
 
 Follow NFS option needs to be enabled in the policy
 
 
 http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/249343.htm 
 (http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/249343.htm)
 
 The following example shows the same backup when the NFS file system is 
 mounted, but the Follow NFS option is not enabled in the policy. Since the 
 Follow NFS option is not enabled in the policy, the backup skips the backup 
 of the NFS file system.
 
 2 mount build_mount_list: INF - Processing (NFS) server1:/export/test on 
 /test-nfs
 4 bpbkar PrintFile: /test-nfs/
 8 bpbkar SelectFile: WRN - /test-nfs is on file system type NFS. Skipping.
 
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[Veritas-bu] Curse you NetBackup.

2008-10-21 Thread oersted

why did you change fragment size?

It is not necessary and does more harm than good.


Dean wrote:
 Yep, fragment size is set at 20GB on 3592-E05 drives
 
 On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:47 AM, oersted
 netbackup-forum  at  backupcentral.com wrote:
 
  
  do you have fragment size set on your storage units to something other than 
  default?
  
  
  Dean wrote:
  
   I am sitting here at home on a Friday night watching the backups run
   (yeah, I have no life), trying to get an idea about how the
   performance is going, and trying to help a DBA narrow down a
   performance problem. I have 3 backups running at the moment (things
   haven't really kicked off yet). Everything was going fine - I was
   seeing 60 MB/sec from the main client I am interested in, and about 20
   MB/sec from the other two, which is all good.
   
   Then suddenly everything freezes. It has been about half an hour and
   nothing has happened.
   
   The only error message I see is this one
   
   1224235829 1 2 16 melrhnbu02 0 0 0 *NULL* bptm Error occurred during
   initialization.  Could not read logging configuration file.
   
   (that is from a media server which is not involved in the particular
   backup I am intersted in, so is probably completely irrelevant)
   
   I also get lots of this :
   bpcd/log.101708:07:43:53.526 [4941] 16 bpcd main: char_count = 7375,
   .line_count = 55
   bpcd/log.101708:07:43:57.112 [4954] 16 bpcd main: strlen(pProcList) = 
   7205
   
   G
   
   It;s extremely frustrating having watched a 100GB filesystem backup
   tick up to about 90GB completed at 60 MB/sec, then everything freezes,
   when I have a DBA waiting for me to tell him that everything looks OK
   from the I/O side of things on his server. But I can't give him a
   definitive answer, because EVERYTHING has locked up for me, from all 3
   clients that are trying to backup at the moment.
   
   Oh NetBackup, why must thou smite me?
   
   Well, I was just about to send this email, and things have suddenly
   started moving again. That's life with NBU, I guess. I should be used
   to these mysterious lock-ups by now. But it's extremely frustrating,
   especially when you're trying to do an I/O performance test.
   
   So, I guess I'll have to report to the DBA, the first 4 x 20GB
   fragments ran at 60 MB/sec, but the last 20GB fragment ran at less
   than 1 MB/sec. What is he going to make of that?
   
   NBU 6.5.2 on RHEL 4. Generally it's pretty stable for me, but random
   lock ups like this continue to occur, as they have since I started
   with NBU in the 3.4 days.
   
   Gehhh, just getting out my frustrations. Thanks for listening.
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[Veritas-bu] stub file backup/restore performance

2008-10-21 Thread oersted

Is the archiving solution Enterprise Vault?



Jay wrote:
 We are looking into a couple of archiving solutions for our NAS environment 
 which will leave small stub files (0-8K) on the original volume. Those 
 volumes will continue to be backed up via NDMP. I'm a little leary of trying 
 to backup thousands of small files. Has anyone out there seen a performance 
 hit when backing up or restoring these stubs?


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[Veritas-bu] Windows Master server

2008-10-21 Thread oersted

keep the drive that has the catalog defragged and keep the swap file on a 
separate disk

keep all unnecessary software off the master


masterbo wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 Need some advise, I have master server on Windows 2003, two more other 
 Windows media servers, two Sun Solaris media servers in the mix, two physical 
 sites, two tape libraries with LTO-3 tape drives. There are around 250 backup 
 clients with total 30T in data. It performs well so far, and it keeps growing 
 in number of clients and data size. I just started wondering when I should 
 see that the Windows master server start choking or there is enough room to 
 grow further and maybe consider more disk based backups, add more media 
 servers.
 Does anybody have such experience to run master servers on Windows with a lot 
 of clients?
 
 Thank you,
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[Veritas-bu] Curse you NetBackup.

2008-10-17 Thread oersted

do you have fragment size set on your storage units to something other than 
default?


Dean wrote:
 I am sitting here at home on a Friday night watching the backups run
 (yeah, I have no life), trying to get an idea about how the
 performance is going, and trying to help a DBA narrow down a
 performance problem. I have 3 backups running at the moment (things
 haven't really kicked off yet). Everything was going fine - I was
 seeing 60 MB/sec from the main client I am interested in, and about 20
 MB/sec from the other two, which is all good.
 
 Then suddenly everything freezes. It has been about half an hour and
 nothing has happened.
 
 The only error message I see is this one
 
 1224235829 1 2 16 melrhnbu02 0 0 0 *NULL* bptm Error occurred during
 initialization.  Could not read logging configuration file.
 
 (that is from a media server which is not involved in the particular
 backup I am intersted in, so is probably completely irrelevant)
 
 I also get lots of this :
 bpcd/log.101708:07:43:53.526 [4941] 16 bpcd main: char_count = 7375,
 .line_count = 55
 bpcd/log.101708:07:43:57.112 [4954] 16 bpcd main: strlen(pProcList) = 7205
 
 G
 
 It;s extremely frustrating having watched a 100GB filesystem backup
 tick up to about 90GB completed at 60 MB/sec, then everything freezes,
 when I have a DBA waiting for me to tell him that everything looks OK
 from the I/O side of things on his server. But I can't give him a
 definitive answer, because EVERYTHING has locked up for me, from all 3
 clients that are trying to backup at the moment.
 
 Oh NetBackup, why must thou smite me?
 
 Well, I was just about to send this email, and things have suddenly
 started moving again. That's life with NBU, I guess. I should be used
 to these mysterious lock-ups by now. But it's extremely frustrating,
 especially when you're trying to do an I/O performance test.
 
 So, I guess I'll have to report to the DBA, the first 4 x 20GB
 fragments ran at 60 MB/sec, but the last 20GB fragment ran at less
 than 1 MB/sec. What is he going to make of that?
 
 NBU 6.5.2 on RHEL 4. Generally it's pretty stable for me, but random
 lock ups like this continue to occur, as they have since I started
 with NBU in the 3.4 days.
 
 Gehhh, just getting out my frustrations. Thanks for listening.
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[Veritas-bu] Duplicating Image

2008-10-17 Thread oersted

why not just write two copies inline?




Roedy boy wrote:
 Hi All,
 Is there any change to duplicate image on tape to another tape using 
 schedule/policy (not using vault). for exp : I want to run backup on 8pm and 
 the duplicate the image on 10pm.
 
 Thanks
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[Veritas-bu] Timeout settings

2008-10-14 Thread oersted

has it ever worked?

can you verify ndmp connect thru CLI




Adams, Dwayne wrote:
 Hello, 
 
 I have 2 NDMP filers that die with error 23s at approximately 15 minutes into 
 FULL backup jobs. I believe Netbackup is killing the NDMP connection after 
 900 seconds (waiting for a data response from the filers). Are some timeout 
 settings combined during the backup process? For instance, will a combination 
 of client connect timeout (300) and client read timeout (600) equal a 900 
 timeout and cause Netbackup to kill the session at 900 seconds?  
 
 Here are my timeout settings 
 
 300 Client connect + 600 Client read 
 300 Client connect + 600 File browse 
 
 Log in question… 
 
 10/11/2008 6:06:05 AM - connecting 
 10/11/2008 6:06:05 AM - connected; connect time: 00:00:00 
 10/11/2008 6:06:08 AM - mounting 000396 
 10/11/2008 6:06:59 AM - mounted; mount time: 00:00:51 
 10/11/2008 6:06:59 AM - positioning 000396 to file 1 
 10/11/2008 6:07:02 AM - positioned 000396; position time: 00:00:03 
 10/11/2008 6:07:02 AM - begin writing (starts waiting for data) 
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed but 
 has not yet been destroyed.  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed but 
 has not yet been destroyed.  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) MoverGetState called with 
 no session  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) NDMP backup failed, path = 
 /YOURDATA/  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed but 
 has not yet been destroyed.  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed but 
 has not yet been destroyed.  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed but 
 has not yet been destroyed.  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed but 
 has not yet been destroyed.  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) MoverGetState called with 
 no session  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed but 
 has not yet been destroyed.  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed but 
 has not yet been destroyed.  
 10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - end writing; write time: 00:16:26 
 socket read failed(23)  
 
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 Dwayne Adams


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[Veritas-bu] Send emails - Status Codes OTHER than 1 0

2008-10-04 Thread oersted

if %5 GTR 1 goto Failed

in backup_exit_notify


Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I just installed BLAT and configured the email notifications and everything 
 works as expected: NB is sending emails for jobs exiting with a non-zero 
 code.
 
 The problem is...I don't want to receive emails for 1's.   Any way to modify 
 this? (send emails on jobs ending in anything OTHER than 1  0?)
 
 Thanks!
 Jorge
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[Veritas-bu] Resources needed to tame NetBackup

2008-10-04 Thread oersted

It depends

If it is a new environment, and you have the ability to implement via best 
practices and following strict common sense guidelines, it is possible for one 
person to maintain NBU, for 95% of sites out there.

You must remember, NBU touches everything around it...

umpteen different apps, network, SAN, OS, I/O etc

my hat goes off to the people who code it up.it is a monumental task

NBU only works as good as your environment does...the weaker your 
infrastructure is set up from top to bottom the more people it will take to 
maintain NBU.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a sheet (if possible an official report) available that someone
 knows of where it states that for a (Net)Backup environment of size X
 you need Y amount of people to monitor, maintain, patch, ... The backup
 application (in short all the stuff you need to do to keep the backups
 running).
 
 This is something I want to show to my management because I feel a bit
 undermanned here (just me, myself and I and a whole lot of NetBackup
 stuff around).
 
 Best Regards,
 Bart WALLEBROEK
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[Veritas-bu] NBU cross-site

2008-10-04 Thread oersted

with 5.x you could do this easily without clustering...but with 6.5

what is the amount of data at eaach site?

how many clients at each site?

what are critical apps?

where is data stored? local? SAN?

what does HA/DR SLA entail?

if you HA/DR/BC the apps do you have to HA/DR the backup?

what is pipe between sites?

what is your business?




Mark Steel wrote:
 Hi
 
 I need to design and build a NBU config for a 'virtual datacentre'  
 with two sites, both with production hosts.
 I also need to keep systems to a minimum, and I need HA/DR.
 I was thinking about cross-site clustered master/media server as the  
 start. It would be Solaris platform so could run functions (such as  
 the master server) in a zone for failover, and media server if  
 required as separate zones.
 
 Anyone have any experience of this ? I guess its a balance between  
 complexity of setup with trying to keep config to a minimum - I mean I  
 could have simple local HA / cluster with remote failover an then do  
 that both ways, but that might end up as 6 servers for initial config.
 
 Thanks
 Mark
 
 
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[Veritas-bu] Veritas Netbackup Performance tuning in Ver 6.5

2008-09-24 Thread oersted

use 2MB buffer with LTO2-4

2097152

you will need to pump up shmmax in /proc/sys/kernel

and change bootup script to make permanent

bond NICS biased for incoming Rx bandwidth





Harpreet SINGH wrote:
 Dear All,
 
 I am running on Ver 6.5 with Redhat Master/Media Server.
 
 I am not able to achieve more that 30mb/s through put from a Client backup.
 It is doing big Oracle Data Files. File Size is from 2 gb to 10gb.
 
 I have 3nos of  LTO-2 Tape Library, Redhat 4 update 6 with 4gb Mem.
 Dedicated 1gb Network card.
 
 Clients are Redhat 5 with 32bit  and 64Bit with EMC CX700 SAN Storage Raid
 5 group.
 
 Please advise.
 
 With Warm Regards
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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[Veritas-bu] Veritas Netbackup Performance tuning in Ver 6.5

2008-09-24 Thread oersted

SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS
2097152

do it


Harpreet SINGH wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Right now I have the below config in
 
 /etc/sysctl.conf
 kernel.shmmax=2147483648
 
 With Warm Regards
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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 Phone  :   (O) 6895 - 4326
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 use 2MB buffer with LTO2-4
 
 2097152
 
 you will need to pump up shmmax in /proc/sys/kernel
 
 and change bootup script to make permanent
 
 bond NICS biased for incoming Rx bandwidth
 
 
 
 
 
 Harpreet SINGH wrote:
 
  Dear All,
  
  I am running on Ver 6.5 with Redhat Master/Media Server.
  
  I am not able to achieve more that 30mb/s through put from a Client
  
 backup.
 
  It is doing big Oracle Data Files. File Size is from 2 gb to 10gb.
  
  I have 3nos of  LTO-2 Tape Library, Redhat 4 update 6 with 4gb Mem.
  Dedicated 1gb Network card.
  
  Clients are Redhat 5 with 32bit  and 64Bit with EMC CX700 SAN Storage
  
 Raid
 
  5 group.
  
  Please advise.
  
  With Warm Regards
  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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  Phone  :   (O) 6895 - 4326
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[Veritas-bu] LTO-4

2008-09-24 Thread oersted

the number after hcart means nothingit is not tied to LTO generations in 
any way

it just means NBU has accomodations for up to three different hcart types

hcart means 1/2 inch cartridge Tape

all LTOx, STK 9840, 9940 and T1 fall under this category


WEAVER, Simon \(extern... wrote:
 Guys
 Thanks, even though I asked this question back in 4th Sep :-)
 Simon
 
 From: Martin Ruslan [mailto:mit.martin  at  gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:01 AM
 To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
 Cc: Justin Piszcz; moehatdee; Veritas-bu  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-4
 
 
 
 Hi Simon,
 yes LTO4 supported on 6.5.
 eventhough on the device type, HCART4 doesn't exist.
 
 Regards,
 mTz
 
 On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:46 PM, WEAVER, Simon (external) simon.weaver  at  
 astrium.eads.net (simon.weaver  at  astrium.eads.net) wrote:
 
  
  Doesnt 6.5 support LTO4 ?
  
  
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  Piszcz
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  To: moehatdee
  Cc: Veritas-bu  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu (Veritas-bu  at  
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  Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-4
  
  NetBackup 6.0X should support LTO-4, the only change you may need to
  make is you need to upgrade the tpconfig/db file, there is a mappings
  upgrade, check symantec's site, 6.0MP4 should work fine.
  
  
  On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, moehatdee wrote:
  
  
   I have a plan to upgrade my library from ADIC scalari100 to
   Scalari2000 and LTO-4.
   Currently I used NetBackup 6.0 MP4.
   
   Can you inform me please which version of NetBackup software that
   
  support LTO-4?
  
   I'am waiting for your information. Thanks.
   
   
   
   Regards,
   
   Moehatdee
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[Veritas-bu] Veritas Netbackup Performance tuning in Ver 6.5

2008-09-24 Thread oersted

remember, shared memory usage will be 

buffer size X number of drives X MPX setting X number of data buffers
for example:

2MB buffer X 4 drives X 4 MPX X 32 buffers will be 1GB shared mem



Harpreet SINGH wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Right now I have the below value.
 
 /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config more SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS
 262144
 
 Now backup's are going on. Later I will change to  SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS
 2097152  and update you accordingly.
 
 With Warm Regards
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 SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS
 2097152
 
 do it
 
 
 Harpreet SINGH wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Right now I have the below config in
  
  /etc/sysctl.conf
  kernel.shmmax=2147483648
  
  With Warm Regards
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  use 2MB buffer with LTO2-4
  
  2097152
  
  you will need to pump up shmmax in /proc/sys/kernel
  
  and change bootup script to make permanent
  
  bond NICS biased for incoming Rx bandwidth
  
  
  
  
  
  Harpreet SINGH wrote:
  
  
   Dear All,
   
   I am running on Ver 6.5 with Redhat Master/Media Server.
   
   I am not able to achieve more that 30mb/s through put from a Client
   
   
  backup.
  
  
   It is doing big Oracle Data Files. File Size is from 2 gb to 10gb.
   
   I have 3nos of  LTO-2 Tape Library, Redhat 4 update 6 with 4gb Mem.
   Dedicated 1gb Network card.
   
   Clients are Redhat 5 with 32bit  and 64Bit with EMC CX700 SAN Storage
   
   
  Raid
  
  
   5 group.
   
   Please advise.
   
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[Veritas-bu] Exchange 2007 with CCR - Passive Node Backup

2008-09-24 Thread oersted

this is spot on


Rosenkoetter, Gabriel wrote:
 You shouldn't be specifying either the active or passive node name as a 
 client, you should be specifying the cluster's virtual name as a client.
 
 Also, note that you must run the NetBackup Client Service as an AD-level (not 
 local) account that has local admin access on each server and admin access to 
 the Exchange cluster for LCR/CCR snapshot backups. Running the client as 
 LocalSystem will not work. (The documentation's a bit hazy on this point. 
 It's clear that that's necessary for individual mailbox backups, it's not so 
 clear that it's required for the cluster backups, but it makes sense when you 
 think about it: the Exchange cluster isn't logically attached to either node, 
 so neither node's LocalSystem has sufficient permissions.)
 
 --
 gabriel rosenkoetter
 Radian Group Inc, Unix/Linux/VMware Sysadmin / Backup  Recovery
 gabriel.rosenkoetter  at  radian.biz, 215 231 1556   
 
 From: Scheef Jr, Ed E. [mailto:CXScheef  at  tecoenergy.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:36 PM
 To: veritas-bu  at  mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2007 with CCR - Passive Node Backup
 
 
 
 
 Folks, 
 
 We're running Netbackup 6.5.2. 
 
 We're just now setting up a Netbackup Policy for Exchange 2007 running in a 
 CCR cluster. 
 The backup has been defined to backup the passive node first, but if not 
 available, backup 
 the active node. 
 
 The question I have is client definition in the Snapshot policy (within 
 Exchange Policy) required 
 to backup the Exchange database: 
 
 When we put both physical CCR cluster node names in the policy's client list, 
 it starts backups 
 for both nodes, and looks like it does snapshots for both nodes, when only 
 the passive node 
 should be snapshotting, and getting backed up. Why is that happening ?? 
 Anybody have a  
 passive node Exchange backup set up and working ??? 
 
 An obvious solution would be to take the active node server out of the 
 policy's client list, but 
 then if a failover occurred , and the passive node switched to what is now 
 the active node, 
 would the passive node backup still work without that physical server in 
 the policy's client list ?? 
 
 The Netbackup documentation update for 6.5.2 is not too clear on this !! 
 
 Thanks Much, 
 Ed Scheef 
 Tampa Electric Company


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[Veritas-bu] Okay now , this isn't funny---Sun T5140/CMT card

2008-09-07 Thread oersted

Jumbo frames not necessary

minimal TCP tweaks

normal NBU tuning

having fast clients helps a lot!!






amellor.au wrote:
 Very interesting
 
 Regardless of cost, I have a similar setup with a T2000 and 10Gbe.
 
 Can you tell me about any system tweaks, in particular TCP ?
 
 Are you using jumbo frames for example ?
 
 
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 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Okay now , this isn't funny---Sun T5140/CMT card
 
 
 Is this the media server/NIC combo that god built?
 
 600-700MB/s with 10Gbe CMT card.
 
 Running three STK T10ks like a scalded cat.
 
 Had to get that off my chest!!!
 
 VTL who?
 
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[Veritas-bu] Okay now , this isn't funny---Sun T5140/CMT card

2008-09-05 Thread oersted

Is this the media server/NIC combo that god built?

600-700MB/s with 10Gbe CMT card.

Running three STK T10ks like a scalded cat.

Had to get that off my chest!!!

VTL who?

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[Veritas-bu] Veritas NetBackup Slow during out of office hours

2008-08-14 Thread oersted

what happens if you let backup run as scheduled?

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