Re: [Veritas-bu] Changing Windows master to Linux master

2015-04-29 Thread scott . george
If it is possible, I would run 2 parallel environments, one being your 
existing and the other being the new with your linux master.  Start 
backing up to the new and keep the old around until all of your backup 
images expire.  I went from an AIX master to Linux which is entirely 
doable without all of the professional services hubub, but it was easier 
to me to just migrate to the new through attrition. 

The one caveat is you cannot share a media server between the two master 
servers.  If you have only a single tape subsystem that cannot be shared 
between two hosts, that will limit your options.




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I want to change my windows master to a linux master.  Is this doable?  I 
am told by symantec that the catalog directory structure and the block 
sizes written differ between the 2 and this will require professional 
services to accomplish.  Has anyone done this?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Appliance Vs Data Domain

2014-11-17 Thread scott . george
We have had a chance to side-by-side a 5220 with a DD860 for the past 
couple of years and each has its high and low points.

Most of that time we didn't have a backup replication solution in place 
and depended on duplicating back to tape off of each device for offsite 
storage.  The Data Domain is hands down much better at reconstructing its 
data for this purpose.  I do understand this isn't normally an intended 
operation, but pulling even less than 10 images off of the 5220 at one 
time was work that produced significant load on it as to impede its normal 
operation.

The hardware reliability of our 5220 atrocious.  I can't tell you how many 
raid cards have been switched out of this thing.  If we have had a couple 
of disk failures on the DD860 the past couple of years, but I always find 
out about those after the fact.  My datacenter people tell me that EMC was 
here to switch it out and that is that. 

We did place another 5220 at our DR site with a DD4200 and implemented 
AIR.  This is the by far the best thing we ever did for our backup 
environment.  The remote 5220 does well as a remote master server handling 
the OST device and keeping track of images coming in.  Alleviating the 
need to send offsite tapes was a boon to the process overall.  We had a DR 
exercise last week and having everything there already without the need of 
propping up a tape library and a server to manage it was well worth the 
overall effort.

The 5220 performs well as a tape media server, again another function that 
it more than likely isn't intended to be used for.  Performing as a media 
server for the Data Domain does well also.

We depend on the local 5220 to handle the VMware backups over SAN and it 
doesn't keep up with what we need.  It is just not built to handle the 
load.

Right now, I am in the market for another device, and I am going to 
probably lean toward the Data Domain with another media server that uses 
10gb interfaces.  We have really had to limit what we send to the 5220, 
and we are realizing that we may even have to pare that back.  We really 
liked it for the VMware capabilities, but performance is an issue and we 
may be finding ourselves using the Data Domain for some of that load as 
well.

If you have a large VMware install base, you will be well served to 
perform some load testing with proof of concept devices.  We were burnt by 
not doing enough of that ahead of time.  In this space, performance and 
functionality go hand-in-hand at times.



From:   Scott Jacobson sjaco...@novell.com
To: Mikhail Nikitin mikhail.niki...@gmail.com, 
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Date:   11/16/2014 01:48 PM
Subject:Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Appliance Vs Data Domain
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You'll likely receive many responses to your inquire so I add mine as 
well. In my research with DD and Quantum is that they were all compatible 
pieces to create the solution your seeking, however, there are many moving 
parts in getting them to work and some features are missing (as mentioned, 
ie. OST) compared to the Symantec Appliances.  The Symantec Appliances 
have many of the best of bread software products built in i.e. Storage 
Foundation/High Availability etc.
 
Your environment sounds like an exact copy of ours. I currently have three 
5230's deployed globally for the primary purpose of A.I.R., but also have 
one of them at our primary Data Center location whose additional function 
was to reduce backup windows and deduplicate data - all is working as 
promoted and designed.  I've about a 72% deduplication rate with 
structured and unstructured data.  Accelerator based backups are crazy 
fast after the first initial Full backup - two examples:
 
1. A 21 hour Full back up to LTO IV tape (dedicated backup network 
infrastructure) now takes only 50 minutes to the 5230 deduplication pool.
2. At an East Coast office a local backup of a 375 Gb Windows server with 
1.8 million files would take around 9 to 10 hours. Again, with Accelerator 
enabled and the backup occurring over the WAN to our 5230 Appliance 
deduplication pool 2000 miles away, the backup only takes 1 hour 10 
minutes. The rate from the NBU Console reports 89121 KB Per Second. (this 
may sound misleading, but you have to get your head around what the 
Accelerate and its Track Journal is doing which is comparing (no tree 
walk) de-duped block changes and sending only new blocks that don't reside 
on the target Appliance)
 
Symantec just announced the 5330 which is of course faster than the 5230 
and it can scale to 229 Tb so this maybe something you might want to look 
into. Note also that a 5230 can be either a Master or Media server (all of 
mine are Media Servers) and the 5330 can only be a Media server which is 
not a limiting factor in my opinion.
 
I won't get into the discussion of whose better, NetBackup, EMC or 
Commvault because we are a Symantec NetBackup shop. I'll leave that 
response 

Re: [Veritas-bu] ddboost ove FC - Questions RE: Storage Server Credentials

2014-06-13 Thread scott . george
Is the hostname listed in your DataDomain's access list?  I think that is 
where the failure is happening. 




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Date:   06/13/2014 03:08 PM
Subject:[Veritas-bu] ddboost ove FC - Questions RE: Storage Server 
Credentials
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I am working on implementing ddboost over FC in our test environment.

Our Data Domain's are DD2500's.  We are running NetBackup 7.5.0.4 on 
redhat linux with the 2.6 ost plugin installed.

This same data domain is already registered as a storage server via 
hostname and applying credentials to that instance was trouble free.

After zoning the DD so that it can be seen by our NBU servers, I was able 
to issue the following nbdevconfig command to create a new storage server 
using the DFC- name generated during initial config of ddboost over fc 
settings on the DD

./nbdevconfig -creatests -stype DataDomain -storage_server DFC-fldevdd002 
-media_server flmdevlxnb001.xxx.xxx

From the GUI I can now see this storage server listed but my attempts to 
add credentials to my master/media server (flmdevlxnb001.scottrade.dev) 
have been unsuccessful.

tpconfig -add -storage_server DFC-fldevdd002 -stype DataDomain 
-sts_user_id ostuser -password xx

I get the following error after running the above command...

Failed to open server connection to type DataDomain server DFC-fldevdd002: 
Error = 2060046
plugin error
Authorization failed for OpenStorage server DFC-fldevdd002

What is confusing me is that this storage (DFC-fldevdd002) server isn't 
based on a hostname attached to an interface on the Data Domain like a 
traditional storage server would be.  For this reason, most 
troubleshooting steps surrounding name resolution etc... don't seem to 
apply with regard to a fiber attached storage server.

I have gone step by step through both the EMC Open storage admin guide and 
the Symantec equivalent.  It appears to me that I am missing a glaringly 
obvious step.

Does anyone have any ideas how to get credentials pushed out to my 
master/media server ?

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[Veritas-bu] Post Upgrade 7.6.0.1

2014-01-29 Thread scott . george
Has anybody else performing this upgrade noticed certain jobs slowing 
down?  I have particular ones that depend on getting in and out of the 
queue quickly (Database agent log rolls) and they hang in the queue for 10 
minutes before actually finishing.  It would take 10 seconds before 
(7.5.0.6).  The upgrade didn't do anything to my buffer size touch files, 
because I see the same settings as before showing up in the details of the 
job.  This is filling up my database servers log directories.  Other are 
simple offload jobs from disk to tape via SLP.  I may have to go back if I 
can't get around this. 

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[Veritas-bu] Vaulting primary copies of backups

2013-04-26 Thread scott . george
I have a requirement where a remote division of ours is replicating a 
Windows file server to our location via DFS.  We are backing up that 
server already, but wish to do special backups in order to satisfy some 
ISO compliance guidelines.  I want to send these copies offisite at their 
given intervals (weekly, monthly, annually).  If I create a vault, I 
assume it is going to want to duplicate these copies, which is what I 
don't want.  Is there any way to vault the primary copies when it comes 
time to send them offsite? 

Thank you for the help in advance,

Scott

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[Veritas-bu] Keeping hostname, changing IP addresses

2013-02-01 Thread scott . george
I am moving my master server to new hardware, but am keeping the hostname. 
 I am also want to change the IP address and naturally have the DNS record 
changed as well.  I wish to move it to a subnet that utilizes jumbo 
frames.  Aside of all of the hardcoded clients that will become 
immediately known, is there any other pitfalls that I may encounter with 
this?

Thank you in advance.

Scott



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Keeping hostname, changing IP addresses

2013-02-01 Thread scott . george
I am in complete control of the subnet and attached hosts, so that will 
not be a problem.  I also see this as a good opportunity to force all of 
the clients to use DNS.  Always becomes an issue at DR every year.





From:   Daniel Otto dan_o...@symantec.com
To: scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com
Date:   02/01/2013 09:35 AM
Subject:RE: [Veritas-bu] Keeping hostname, changing IP addresses



The key is keeping the same hostname for the master server NBU doesn?t 
care which IP address is used so long as its is resolvable and it can 
connect to it. If going to jumbo framing make sure ALL of the layer 2 
attached servers also support use of jumbo framing or your performance 
will go from bad to worse. 
 
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Keeping hostname, changing IP addresses
 
I am moving my master server to new hardware, but am keeping the hostname. 
 I am also want to change the IP address and naturally have the DNS record 
changed as well.  I wish to move it to a subnet that utilizes jumbo 
frames.  Aside of all of the hardcoded clients that will become 
immediately known, is there any other pitfalls that I may encounter with 
this?

Thank you in advance.

Scott
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Re: [Veritas-bu] orphaned job

2012-11-13 Thread scott . george
I encountered one of the ghost jobs this morning.  It appears that 
bpjobd can now be used on an up and running system.  The empty jobs can 
still show up, you just don't need to bring NBU down to clear them.





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To: scott.geo...@parker.com, veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Date:   11/09/2012 10:31 AM
Subject:RE: [Veritas-bu] orphaned job



I call it the orphaned job bug.  It's great to hear that it may have 
finally been addressed in 7.5.0.4!! I too have always done bpjobd -r job 
id

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The only way I have been able to get rid of these in 7.1 was to bring NBU 
down and run bpjobd -r job id on every one.  

I just upgraded to 7.5.0.4 yesterday, and it seems to be much cleaner, 
meaning, none of these have shown up yet.  I did see some empty jobs that 
I was able to delete as well.





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Date:11/08/2012 12:41 PM
Subject:[Veritas-bu] orphaned job
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I have a windows 2008 R2 master server running Netbackup 7.1.01. I have 1 
job in the console that shows a status 50 (client process aborted), 
however the job state is waiting for retry. I tried cancelling the job and 
it never dies. I?ve rebooted the master a number of times and the job is 
still there. Anyone have any ideas?
 
Thanks
  

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Re: [Veritas-bu] orphaned job

2012-11-08 Thread scott . george
The only way I have been able to get rid of these in 7.1 was to bring NBU 
down and run bpjobd -r job id on every one. 

I just upgraded to 7.5.0.4 yesterday, and it seems to be much cleaner, 
meaning, none of these have shown up yet.  I did see some empty jobs that 
I was able to delete as well.





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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Date:   11/08/2012 12:41 PM
Subject:[Veritas-bu] orphaned job
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I have a windows 2008 R2 master server running Netbackup 7.1.01. I have 1 
job in the console that shows a status 50 (client process aborted), 
however the job state is waiting for retry. I tried cancelling the job and 
it never dies. I?ve rebooted the master a number of times and the job is 
still there. Anyone have any ideas?
 
Thanks
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified criteria

2012-07-25 Thread scott . george
Make sure you are selecting the proper policy type, i.e. MS-Windows for 
Windows based systems or Standard for *NIX systems. 





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Date:   07/25/2012 08:04 AM
Subject:[Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified 
criteria
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Hello,

Can anyone help me with the following issue?

I have a Netbackup 6.5 installed on Solaris 10 and recently I ran into an 
issue when I try to restore files from a backup. In fact the NetBackup GUI 
immediately reported There are no files matching the specified criteria. 
Normally this would implicate my search criteria; perhaps I specified an 
incorrect policy type or media server. However, I repeatedly got the same 
error even when all I changed was the ending search date (specifying an 
earlier backup).
All backups are succesfully completed.

Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified criteria

2012-07-25 Thread scott . george
If you still have information about previous backups available, I would 
query the catalog for available images on the media used for the backup. 
This will tell you right away what is on the tape.  You don't have 
anything in place that changes the copy number of images, do you?  Any 
vaulting occurring?

If you have done the backup recently, but don't have any images available 
for restore, the copy number may be another issue.



From:   Grigore Petrisor edy2...@yahoo.com
To: scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com, 
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Date:   07/25/2012 08:19 AM
Subject:Re: [Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified 
criteria



Hello Scott,

Thank you for your replay. 

Issue is not caused by a policy type or a client selection ... I think 
there is a problem with catalog. I have google about  this issue but 
didn?t  find nothing clear. 


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified 
criteria

Make sure you are selecting the proper policy type, i.e. MS-Windows for 
Windows based systems or Standard for *NIX systems.   





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Date:07/25/2012 08:04 AM 
Subject:[Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified 
criteria 
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Hello, 

Can anyone help me with the following issue? 

I have a Netbackup 6.5 installed on Solaris 10 and recently I ran into an 
issue when I try to restore files from a backup. In fact the NetBackup GUI 
immediately reported There are no files matching the specified criteria. 
Normally this would implicate my search criteria; perhaps I specified an 
incorrect policy type or media server. However, I repeatedly got the same 
error even when all I changed was the ending search date (specifying an 
earlier backup). 
All backups are succesfully completed. 

Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified criteria

2012-07-25 Thread scott . george
Are you using GUI from the client?  My guess is that since this is a 
cluster (I am assuming that from the name), it is using the local node's 
IP address instead of the resources IP address and since there are no 
backup images for the local node, it doesn't show any.  My cluster 
experience with NBU isn't all that sharp, so somebody else may be able to 
chime in and offer more definitive advice on this.  I know mostly UNIX 
clusters where I just let the local client backup the shared resources it 
owns and be done with it. 

Scott



From:   Grigore Petrisor edy2...@yahoo.com
To: scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com
Date:   07/25/2012 12:53 PM
Subject:Re: [Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified 
criteria



Bellow are output for the bpimagelist. Bplist for the same client and the 
same period of time generatea huge list of files.

root@evbackupsrv # bpimagelist -U -client evdbcluster01 -d 07/01/2012
Backed Up Expires   Files   KB  C  Sched Type   Policy
  --    -   

07/23/2012 01:00  08/23/201278162 89752443  N  Full Backup 
EVDB01_BKP_FS
07/23/2012 01:00  08/23/2012   201411 16972190  N  Full Backup 
EVDB01_BKP_FS
07/16/2012 01:00  08/16/201278109 89530499  N  Full Backup 
EVDB01_BKP_FS
07/16/2012 01:00  08/16/2012   201406 16961064  N  Full Backup 
EVDB01_BKP_FS

Thanks again for your help

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified 
criteria

If you still have information about previous backups available, I would 
query the catalog for available images on the media used for the backup. 
This will tell you right away what is on the tape.  You don't have 
anything in place that changes the copy number of images, do you?  Any 
vaulting occurring? 

If you have done the backup recently, but don't have any images available 
for restore, the copy number may be another issue. 



From:Grigore Petrisor edy2...@yahoo.com 
To:scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com, 
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Subject:Re: [Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified 
criteria 



Hello Scott, 

Thank you for your replay. 

Issue is not caused by a policy type or a client selection ... I think 
there is a problem with catalog. I have google about  this issue but 
didn?t  find nothing clear. 


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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] There are no files matching the specified 
criteria 

Make sure you are selecting the proper policy type, i.e. MS-Windows for 
Windows based systems or Standard for *NIX systems.   





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Hello, 

Can anyone help me with the following issue? 

I have a Netbackup 6.5 installed on Solaris 10 and recently I ran into an 
issue when I try to restore files from a backup. In fact the NetBackup GUI 
immediately reported There are no files matching the specified criteria. 
Normally this would implicate my search criteria; perhaps I specified an 
incorrect policy type or media server. However, I repeatedly got the same 
error even when all I changed was the ending search date (specifying an 
earlier backup). 
All backups are succesfully completed. 

Any help will be appreciated.
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[Veritas-bu] Status 156 with multiplexing turned on

2012-03-21 Thread scott . george
Greetings all,

I began using 2 STK T1C drives in my SL8500.  Naturally, the bulk of 
my clients will not be able to push data to the capacity of the drive, so 
I have turned on multiplexing for certain policies and for the storage 
group itself.  I am running 6 jobs wide per drive, and seems to handle the 
throughput well. 

I am getting status 156 (snaphot error) on some SQL servers and am 
wondering if it is related to the multiplexing.  I know at its core it is 
related to VSS on the Windows server, but does multiplexing affect this in 
any way?

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 71, Issue 11

2012-03-16 Thread scott . george
From what I remember, the recommended catalog backup was the hot backup 
when it first appeared (in 6.0?).  I have had to use it a couple of times 
with success every time.

Even if it could be dumped to disk and transferred/mapped to the new 
system, it would be worth a try.





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Hi,
 
I?ve gone from 32-bit to 64-bit with Linux on several occasions and did 
not have an issue; however I?ve not tried that with Windows.  Do you still 
have the old master running?  Have you tried using a hot catalog backup 
(cold backups are deprecated anyhow)?
 
Justin.
 
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Did you try run bpclntcmd prior to the upgrade?
 
I also noticed the 64 bit and 32 bit change but wouldn?t have thought it 
would make a difference
 
Regards,
Tal Shekel
CSA
FUJITSU
 
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What seems to stick out, is the target OS is 64bit (vs the original 
32bit OS)  and the problem only shows up after a good catalog 
restore 

/Steve
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 We are trying to upgrade our NBU hardware and OS and are running into
 some issues that seem related to doing a cold catalog recovery and name
 resolution.
 
 Current setup:
 Windows 2003 x86 SP2
 NBU 6.5.6
 
 New setup:
 Windows 2008 x64 SP2
 NBU 6.5.6
 
 Current server and new server are configured with the same name and ip
 address.
 
 ISSUE:
 We can do a cold catalog backup and restore just fine but have a serious
 issue in the end. After both successes if we open the Activity Monitor
 we get an error - Not connected, check if services are up.
 
 All service are up.
 
 bpjobsd log shows
 
 2 job_connect: Can't connect automatically to client pbcobk01 status =
 25 err = 10061
 2 job_connect: Can't connect to client pbcobk01
 16 main: Can't connect to pbcobk01 (46)
 
 We did a complete system rebuild, installed NBU 6.5.6, and configured to
 write to disk. Test backup ran and Activity Monitor worked fine. Did
 the catalog recovery and the issue came back.
 
 I did some bpclntcmd tests and they all come back with the correct name
 but the IP shows as 127.0.0.1. I added the hostname and real IP to the
 hosts file with no luck.
 
 I tried the following tests:
 bpclntcmd -pn = correct short name with 127.0.0.1
 bpclntcmd -self = correct short name with 127.0.0.1
 bpclntcmd -hn pbcobk01 = correct short name with 127.0.0.1
 bpclntcmd -ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx = correct host and xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx for ip
 address
 
 If I do these test on the current server they come back with the actual
 IP of the system. 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Getting Status 96 with 201 scratch tapes

2012-03-16 Thread scott . george
Just so I didn't leave this hanging out there, I had 201 tapes with volume 
expirations that had expired.  It was a good lesson in the difference 
between data expiration and volume expiration.

Thank you for all of the input!



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What is the output of this command:

/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmpool -list_scratch

Is your defined scratch pool what you expected?

I run a cron job that verifies my available scratch tapes and sets my pool 
several times a day, ever since I found there is a bug in the java gui 
that can set a pool as scratch by mistake...

This command will set it for you: (my scratch pool is named scratch_pool)

/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmpool -set_scratch scratch_pool


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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:04:56 -0500
From: scott.geo...@parker.com
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Getting Status 96 with 201 scratch tapes
To: 'Veritas' veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
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Here is my environment:

NBU 7.1.0.3 on an AIX 6.1 Master (also acting as media server in this 
instance)

My scratch pool has 201 tapes inside the robot.  Robot is STK SL8500 with 
20 9840C Drives.  I am using ACSLS.

Overnight vaults failed with the duplication jobs ending in error 96 
(unable to allocate new media for backup, storage unit has none 
available).


What gives? 

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[Veritas-bu] Getting Status 96 with 201 scratch tapes

2012-03-09 Thread scott . george
Here is my environment:

NBU 7.1.0.3 on an AIX 6.1 Master (also acting as media server in this 
instance)

My scratch pool has 201 tapes inside the robot.  Robot is STK SL8500 with 
20 9840C Drives.  I am using ACSLS.

Overnight vaults failed with the duplication jobs ending in error 96 
(unable to allocate new media for backup, storage unit has none 
available).


What gives? 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] New backup

2012-01-24 Thread scott . george
I believe the default behavior is to run fulls every day until the first 
scheduled full, even if an incremental is scheduled that day.  We are in 
the habit of running a full immediately after a client is added to a 
policy or a policy is created.

We learned the hard way by filling up or virtual library. 





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If you were to add a backup for the first time on a day that the policy 
has an Incremental specified, would it automatically promote to full
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU catalog on NAS/SAN

2011-11-16 Thread scott . george
We have the entire operating system of the master server on SAN (which 
also happens to house NBU and its catalog), and it is replicated to our DR 
site.  Once we get there, we just power it up and fly.  The caveat to 
using SAN is that it looks like local disk to the master.  I am not sure 
about iSCSI or FCoE, but I would assume they would be treated the same as 
well, with my caveat, of course.



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In point of fact it only says NO to NFS/CIFS.The original question 
also asked about SAN as well and I don?t know of any prohibition against 
that but as others have noted you?d want to make sure the disk array used 
is backed up to other locations because if the array fails you?d lose both 
your other data and the catalog you need to restore that data. 
 
 
 

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Nate
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Yeah that was pretty much what I figured.
 
From: Wayne T Smith [mailto:wtsm...@maine.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:33 PM
To: Sanders, Nate (DS)
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU catalog on NAS/SAN
 
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH16116 
says No.

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH33326 
says No.


Cheers, Wayne
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Sanders, Nate sande...@dmotorworks.com 
wrote:
What?s the best practice on moving the NBU master catalog to an NFS mount 
or a SAN share? With all the drama going on around our catalog size and 
the new Isilon, I?m beginning to wonder if we?ll out grow out current 
master servers local disk soon. I?ll be digging through Symantec PDFs, but 
thought I would throw it out here for you all as well. My obvious concerns 
are I/O. In our environment I would say we usually have no more than 30 
active jobs (including children) running at a time. Our average is 
probably 10 or less, with bursts of 30. 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups

2011-09-08 Thread scott . george
I think the question was: where is that file located when it is created, 
and does it then get backed up by the job doing the backup itself?



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Date:
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups
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Checkpoints create a new file for each checkpoint.

On 9/7/2011 1:17 PM, Rusty Major wrote: 
I have always understood it that Checkpoints were saved in a log on the 
client and, therefore, wouldn?t affect dedupe ratios at all. I haven?t 
ever verified that, nor did a quick search yield anything.
 
-Rusty
 
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups
 
Haven?t done any comparisons but we use checkpoint for our big ERP DB 
(near 6 TB) backup and still get good compression ratios.   There is 
nothing that has made me think I need to look at it or tweak it to get 
better.   I?d say the benefit of not having to restart a huge backup from 
scratch offered by checkpoints would outweigh deduplication ratio issues 
unless you have infinite time to run backups.
 
 
 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups
 
To answer your question, we tested both the NBU 5000 (Symantec) and the 
DD860 (Data Domain) and the differences couldn't be more stark.  I was 
using a 30 minute checkpoint interval.  I never achieved anything better 
than 15:1 from the NBU5000 (which isn't bad).  The DD860 hit 39:1 at the 
time I disabled all of the policies.  This was running daily full backups 
on an array of different servers (DB2, Windows file servers, UNIX file 
servers, and Siebel app servers) over the course of 2 months.   

The NBU5000 is a fixed block device, the DD860 a variable block device. 
There is no way of knowing if checkpoints were the culprit for the NBU5000 
getting the lesser ratio, but it does present a plausible theory. 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups 
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If at all, this would probably affect fixed-block solutions more than the 
variable-block ones.  The variable-blocked solutions would continue to 
look for identical blocks, but in different positions of the data stream.  


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Just wondering if anyone has done testing or seen documentation (from any 
dedupe vendor) regarding the usage of enabling checkpoints on backups that 
are being deduplicated?  I would think that the introduction of 
checkpoints every X minutes into the datastream would interrupt the 
continuity of the data and make it seem more unique thus negatively 
affecting dedupe ratios but I?m wondering by how much.  Most, if not all, 
of the variable length guys have the ability to ?re-align? themselves to 
the start of the files so I would think it might be more pronounced on 
large files vs your average server but I?m just thinking out loud. 
 
Anyone seen a recommendation or actually tested themselves? 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups

2011-09-06 Thread scott . george
If at all, this would probably affect fixed-block solutions more than the 
variable-block ones.  The variable-blocked solutions would continue to 
look for identical blocks, but in different positions of the data stream. 




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Just wondering if anyone has done testing or seen documentation (from any 
dedupe vendor) regarding the usage of enabling checkpoints on backups that 
are being deduplicated?  I would think that the introduction of 
checkpoints every X minutes into the datastream would interrupt the 
continuity of the data and make it seem more unique thus negatively 
affecting dedupe ratios but I?m wondering by how much.  Most, if not all, 
of the variable length guys have the ability to ?re-align? themselves to 
the start of the files so I would think it might be more pronounced on 
large files vs your average server but I?m just thinking out loud.
 
Anyone seen a recommendation or actually tested themselves?



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups

2011-09-06 Thread scott . george
To answer your question, we tested both the NBU 5000 (Symantec) and the 
DD860 (Data Domain) and the differences couldn't be more stark.  I was 
using a 30 minute checkpoint interval.  I never achieved anything better 
than 15:1 from the NBU5000 (which isn't bad).  The DD860 hit 39:1 at the 
time I disabled all of the policies.  This was running daily full backups 
on an array of different servers (DB2, Windows file servers, UNIX file 
servers, and Siebel app servers) over the course of 2 months. 

The NBU5000 is a fixed block device, the DD860 a variable block device. 
There is no way of knowing if checkpoints were the culprit for the NBU5000 
getting the lesser ratio, but it does present a plausible theory.



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Date:
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Subject:
Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups
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If at all, this would probably affect fixed-block solutions more than the 
variable-block ones.  The variable-blocked solutions would continue to 
look for identical blocks, but in different positions of the data stream.  




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Date: 
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Subject: 
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Just wondering if anyone has done testing or seen documentation (from any 
dedupe vendor) regarding the usage of enabling checkpoints on backups that 
are being deduplicated?  I would think that the introduction of 
checkpoints every X minutes into the datastream would interrupt the 
continuity of the data and make it seem more unique thus negatively 
affecting dedupe ratios but I?m wondering by how much.  Most, if not all, 
of the variable length guys have the ability to ?re-align? themselves to 
the start of the files so I would think it might be more pronounced on 
large files vs your average server but I?m just thinking out loud. 
  
Anyone seen a recommendation or actually tested themselves? 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain Question

2011-08-18 Thread scott . george
If you are currently dumping SQL to disk, more than likely, you are 
compressing your data.  Your dedup rate will not be good with this data, 
because of the compression.

When we did our POC, I gave my DBAs specific instructions to send the 
backups uncompressed.  That way, the DataDomain would catch the actual 
duplicate blocks.  To my surprise, it actually caught duplicate blocks in 
the first backup alone.  It only got better from there.  The key is 
whether you are doing compression or not. 

There are DBAs out there that even though you ask them to turn compression 
off, they will think that you really couldn't mean it.  It runs counter 
intuitive to how they have been taught.  Just tell them its big in the 
beginning, but the payoff comes after a week or two. 



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I've got a customer with 30TB of SQL data, and a 30% daily change rate. He 
at best gets a 4.5:1 reduction

But I've also got another with a 4% daily change rate, that gets closer to 
20:1.

It just depends...  Though I don't agree with the above post that dedupe 
appliances cant dedupe SQL well.  As that is not the case in my 2nd 
example.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBAC with AD-originated UNIXPWD Groups (RHEL Master Server)

2011-08-18 Thread scott . george
We use Quest Authentication Services, and it has the ability to put a 
dummy entry in the passwd and group files for the AD enabled users and 
groups.  This has a tendency to create havoc with other things, but for 
something as this, it may work.  In QAS, its called merging.  In LikeWise, 
you may have to talk to them and see if they do something similar.




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I'm attempting to get NBAC configured as part of a large NBU 7.x rollout. 
I'm running my NBU master on RHEL 5.6 server. The RHEL server is 
configured, via LikeWise, to do central user authentication/management 
through Active Directory. As far as getting NBAC to use AD-managed users 
through the UNIXPWD entry point (such that NBAC calls the OS native 
authentication system, which, by way of PAM and LikeWise pulls 
user/authentication data from Active Directory), everything works. I can 
add my AD userid into NBAC. However, if I try to use the O.S. Group 
option, while NBAC seems happy to use users that show up in /etc/group, 
it's being pissy about the AD-managed groups: it allowed me to add the 
wheel group (GID 10 in /etc/passwd) to the NBAC group using the O.S. 
Group method; however, when I tried to add san^admins or 
netbackup-tier3 (AD-managed groups) I get the error message saying it's 
not a valid group. I used getent() to verify that I wasn't fat-fingering 
the groups 
 or otherwise passing them incorrectly to NBAC.

This would be a lot less confusing if NBAC was refusing non-locally 
managed users through the UNIXPWD module, but, that's not the case. It 
seems to only be a groups issue (and only non-local groups). While I could 
do my NBAC role-management via individually enumerated users, it makes it 
a HUGE pain in the ass  to do so, particularly if I've got more than one 
NBU master per network. Being able to create an AD-managed group and then 
map NBAC roles/groups to those (now) OS-level groups would make NBAC a lot 
less onerous to manage.

Any suggestions or such would be greatly appreciated. Even if it's 
something as simple as NBAC doesn't support groupnames longer than X 
characters, I could shoehorn my AD groupnames into compliant 
name-lengths, I just need to know what the maximum is.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Data Domain Question

2011-08-16 Thread scott . george
In order to answer that question, another couple of questions would have 
to be asked:

1.  How long are you going to retain these dumps?  I am assuming that they 
are uncompressed.  The longer you retain your backups, the better your 
deduplication ratio will be.  We are wrapping up a proof of concept on a 
DD 860.  At the end of our Open Systems (Windows/UNIX/Linux) part of the 
evaulation, we were getting 35:1 dedup ratio after 2 months.  We were 
doing full backups every day.  We were dumping database data (DB2 and SQL) 
directly to Netbackup via their respective agents. 

2.  How much does the database change between backups?  You will have to 
talk to your DBAs and get this information.  This may not be significant, 
but you need to find out before you purchase something that will be unable 
to deliver the results you expect. 

In my opinion, uncompressed database dumps are the best candidates for 
deduplication if your data only changes 10-20%.  When I introduced the DB 
dumps to NBU to the DataDomain, my dedup ratios  accelerated 
significantly.

My 2 cents.



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To all,

I am interested in finding out what deduplication ratios users are seeing 
when backing native SQL dumps to a Data Domain array? 

Having friends who work for EMC, they say 3:1 to 4:1, but I am looking for 
real numbers that users are seeing not the sales numbers.

Please let me know

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Unix Exclude_list

2011-07-07 Thread scott . george
..or, you can use exclude_list, and the path gets excluded for all 
policies.


Scott E. George
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UNIX Systems Administrator
Phone:  (216)896-2197
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Date:
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To erase the question mark below:  The exclude file MUST be on the
client the policy is backing up.   As also noted below it must match the
name of the policy exactly including case.

exclude_list.MYBACKUP would not be used by a the policy mybackup or
mYbackup or MYBACKuP.

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Not much to go on.

Where is the file? What machine do you have it on (needs to be on the
client)?

File name is case sensitive and has to exactly match the policy name.
Compare the output of 'ls /usr/openv/netbackup' (on the client) to
bppllist (on the master, gives the list of policies).
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Unix Exclude_list

I have Unix/Solaris clients, everything running Netbackup Entrprise
7.0.1.
I can't get the exclude_list.policy name to work. I'm trying to
exclude
a path (   /path-name and all sub directories. Doesn't seem to read
the
file. Any ideas anyone have knowledge  why it does not seem to work?
Master
server
is running Solaris 10. Thanks


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Where is my IP hiding?

2011-06-02 Thread scott . george
Funny, I ran into this yesterday, and removing and re-installing the 
client did the trick for me.  NBU 7.0.1 on AIX master here. 

Clearing the cache seems to be a more elegant solution, though.  :-)




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To:
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Cc:
Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.com, 
Date:
06/02/2011 10:15 AM
Subject:
Re: [Veritas-bu] Where is my IP hiding?
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Yep - there was a fairly long thread here before where someone else
complained about applications that do their own name caching saying it
wasn't their job.

By the way this started in 7.01 not 7.1 as I said before.   The technote
that tells how to manually delete the cache directory files is:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH14111
7key=15143actp=LIST

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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:02 AM
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: Martin, Jonathan; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Where is my IP hiding?

Jeff,

Arggh, that was it. I thought rebooting cleared the host cache since I 
remember reading that restarting NBU processes had the same effect. I 
guess not.

That's at least the third time this has bitten me, am starting to 
dislike this new feature somewhat. I even mentioned it in my original
email!

Cheers
James

On 02/06/2011 14:58, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
 With 7.1 NBU is now doing its own caching of names/ips.

 Relevant commands:
 bpclntcmd -hnhostname  = Shows what IP it thinks the host has
 bpclntcmd -ipIP Address  = Shows what name it thinks is associated
 with the host.
 bpclntcmd -self = Shows what hostname/IP it thinks the host you are on
 has.
 bpclntcmd -clear_host_cache = Clears the cache.

 There is a technote about this that also tells you how to delete the
 cache files completely if the above command doesn't help.   I find
 clearing the cache with the command seems to work well.

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 Jonathan
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 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Where is my IP hiding?

 Shot in the dark here. Have you checked WINS? We have a *very*
annoying
 issue here where old WINS records take precedence over DNS via the
WINS
 lookup functionality in DNS. We normally have to tombstone the record
 in WINS and clear the DNS cache to resolve.

 -Jonathan

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 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Where is my IP hiding?

 Hi All

 Am running a NetBackup 7.1 testbed on Windows. VMware has decided it's
 time to change my IP address so I have updated the hosts file on the
 master server.

 NetBackup now absolutely refuses to work after several reboots. I can
 ping my master server by name, and forward and reverse lookups go to
the

 correct IP address.

 It seems that problem is that any EMM type commands still have the old
 IP somewhere, and I'm getting status 334 (EMM Initialization Failed)
 when I run pretty much anything.

 When I run netstat -a I see several SYN_SENT connections to the old IP
 (pbx port) that is no longer relevant.

 I've had a quick look through the NBU parts of the Registry but can't
 find anything.

 Where is this IP coming from? I'm pretty sure it's not the highly
 annoying new netbackup IP cache as I have rebooted several times.

 Cheers
 James


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Re: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX to AIX migration

2011-05-18 Thread scott . george
Currently running 7.0.1 on AIX, and I really want to move off to Linux. 
The code maturity on AIX lags behind, in my humble opinion.  I have one 
EEB installed and one workaround in place to compensate for the lag. 

New features are late comers to AIX as well.

I actually fielded the question to Symantec reps, and they said that Linux 
is the primary development platform now.



Scott E. George



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Date:
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Oh yea, this is Netbackup 6.5.6just in case you needed to know that. 
[Rolling Eyes]   :D

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Equivalent Solaris mailing list.

2011-05-17 Thread scott . george
If you can handle the nuisance, IT Toolbox has a fairly busy Solaris 
group.  My ISP cut off direct access to newsgroups, but I think that 
comp.unix.solaris still gets some activity.  Darren Dunham used to be a 
regular on comp.unix.solaris.  He may have better recommendations as well.



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Is there one?
 
Regards,
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU RHEL7.1 Client

2011-05-13 Thread scott . george
It doubled in size for just about every other client too.  It is all 
inclusive, meaning that it contains all of the DB agents and deduplicating 
client.

Personally, I am only rolling this out to where it is absolutely needed. 


Scott George




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Date:
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Does any have a list of differences between the 6.5 and 7.1 release of 
client software for RHEL5.  Other than it doubling in size
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Re: [Veritas-bu] why oh why!!!! Did Symantec REALLY say this

2011-05-05 Thread scott . george
We found this out all on our own, without Symantec's blessing. 

They came a little late with their 2008 R2 support, so they let this go on 
for CYA.  We were doing this before we went to 7.0.1.

When you are caught in the dilemma of getting backups or being supported, 
well, I choose the former.

 



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All 
From my History of working with NBU, any upgrades I have done have been in 
this order: 
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Clients 
So ... why would Symantec be telling a colleage that its ok to oto 6.5.6 
on a client and leave Master at 6.5.4 ? 
Client OS is Wink28 R2 SP1 which cant be backed up correctly 6.5.4 but 
runs fine and supported under 6.5.6 and 7.0.1 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5 client backing up to NBU 7 Master Media

2011-03-31 Thread scott . george
 Its not supported, but it still works.  If you are still using that version of 
a client, probably everything else about the client is unsupported too!  We 
have a couple of AIX 4.3.3 servers using that client.  Backing up just fine.

The NBU client on these systems is the very least of my worries!  ;-)



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Subject: [Veritas-bu]  NBU 5 client backing up to NBU 7 Master  Media

we just did our upgrade from 6.5.1 to 7.0.1

from my research 5.x is not support by 7.0, I believe the min. version is 6.x

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5 client backing up to NBU 7 Master Media

2011-03-31 Thread scott . george
 We still bring back the 4.3.3 systems back at our DR exercise, but we use 
mksysb for restoring the operating system.  From there, we use NBU for the file 
level restores, which do work.  



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From: Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.com
Date: 03/31/2011 08:17PM
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5 client backing up to NBU 7 Master  Media

 
  Have you tried recovering an entire operating system with the 5.1 client and 
7.0 master? I#8217;m currently planning our upgrade to 7.0, and most of my 5.1 
Windows 2000 I will convert to VMware ESX backups, but I#8217;ve got a few 
Windows 2000 non-vm, HP-UX, and Sun OS machines with 5.1 clients that I will 
have to test. I won#8217;t be able to test recover of the HP-UX and Sun 
hardware because we don#8217;t have spares.
   
  -Jonathan
   
  
  From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
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  Its not supported, but it still works.  If you are still using that version 
of a client, probably everything else about the client is unsupported too!  We 
have a couple of AIX 4.3.3 servers using that client.  Backing up just fine.
 
 The NBU client on these systems is the very least of my worries!  ;-)
 
 
 
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 we just did our upgrade from 6.5.1 to 7.0.1
 
 from my research 5.x is not support by 7.0, I believe the min. version is 6.x
 
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[Veritas-bu] Some clients slow way down after 6.5.5--7.0.1 upgrade

2011-03-28 Thread scott . george
I am curious if anybody has seen significant client backup slowdowns after 
this upgrade (or one similar).  My master is AIX 6.1 TL5.  The slowdown is 
being experienced on some previously better performing clients, mostly AIX 
5.3.  I would get 25m-35m/sec previously, where I am now getting ~30k/sec. 
 No Dedupe or PureDisk is being used either.

Thank you!

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[Veritas-bu] 6.5.5 -- 7.0.1 Upgrade - No tapes are expiring

2011-03-24 Thread scott . george
I performed the 6.5.5 to 7.0.1 upgrade on Tuesday, and made the amazing 
discovery that my tapes are not expiring when the day/time comes.  This 
also means that I am not getting any of my media back from off site.  Has 
anybody else encountered this? 

Thank you in advance!

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[Veritas-bu] ovpass on AIX, anyone?

2011-03-22 Thread scott . george
I just did the upgrade to 7.01 this morning from 6.5.5.  Like a dummy, I 
removed the ovpass device instead of the upgrade after NBU was done 
installing.  I can't find any notes on how I did it last time, and I am 
brain cramping big time.  I need it to drive my EMC DL4100.  I have it 
serving up 110 drives across 6 adapters.  I only needed one ovpass0 to 
serve all 110 drives in 6.5.5, so I don't think I need to do multiples.

Any ideas?


Scott George


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Re: [Veritas-bu] ovpass on AIX, anyone?

2011-03-22 Thread scott . george
Whoa!  Not that desperate yet.

My whole issue is with scsi id and lun id, and I remember there being 
something peculiar about it.  I was hoping that somebody else had the same 
experience.





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Date:
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Subject:
RE: [Veritas-bu] ovpass on AIX, anyone?



Restore from a backup?
 
Regards,
 
Patrick Whelan
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows.
 
netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk
 

 
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] ovpass on AIX, anyone?
 
I just did the upgrade to 7.01 this morning from 6.5.5.  Like a dummy, I 
removed the ovpass device instead of the upgrade after NBU was done 
installing.  I can't find any notes on how I did it last time, and I am 
brain cramping big time.  I need it to drive my EMC DL4100.  I have it 
serving up 110 drives across 6 adapters.  I only needed one ovpass0 to 
serve all 110 drives in 6.5.5, so I don't think I need to do multiples. 

Any ideas? 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] ovpass on AIX, anyone?

2011-03-22 Thread scott . george
O, that's tempting.  Too bad I just fixed it. 

I had left myself enough information in my EDL configuration to figure out 
which fiber adapter I was using for robotic control.




From:
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To:
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Date:
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Subject:
Re: [Veritas-bu] ovpass on AIX, anyone?



Hello
 
Use the smc device instead, check this
 
http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH72966
 
Problem

DOCUMENTATION: Configuring robotic control device files for IBM libraries 
on AIX.
Solution

Manual:
Veritas NetBackup (tm) 6.5 Device Configuration Guide for UNIX, Windows, 
Linux

Modification Type:  Addition

Modification:
Starting with NetBackup 6.5.2 and greater all IBM robotics is supported 
via the Atape driver.
Atape driver creates the smc device files for IBM robots controlled by 
SCSI, Fibre Channel or SAS.
The device file is the interface between AIX and the device. 

It is no longer required to create ovpass device file using the NetBackup 
ovpass pass-through driver,
using the smc device files is the preferred method starting with NetBackup 
6.5.2 and greater for IBM robots on AIX.
smc device files will autodiscover in the Device Discovery Wizard.

To check if Atape driver is installed on the system run -
# lslpp -l | grep Atape
 Atape.driver  11.6.0.0  COMMITTED  IBM AIX Enhanced Tape and
Medium Changer Device 
Driver

To list the smc device path run -
# lsdev -Cc tape
...
smc0 Available 06-08-01-1,1 IBM 3582 Library Medium Changer
/apps/media/inquira/resources /resources 



Article URL http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH72966
Urs
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] ovpass on AIX, anyone?

I just did the upgrade to 7.01 this morning from 6.5.5.  Like a dummy, I 
removed the ovpass device instead of the upgrade after NBU was done 
installing.  I can't find any notes on how I did it last time, and I am 
brain cramping big time.  I need it to drive my EMC DL4100.  I have it 
serving up 110 drives across 6 adapters.  I only needed one ovpass0 to 
serve all 110 drives in 6.5.5, so I don't think I need to do multiples. 

Any ideas? 


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[Veritas-bu] Large Duplication Jobs in Vault

2011-02-22 Thread scott . george
I have 2 vault jobs that duplicate everything from the previous day, one 
for my fulls, and the other for my incrementals.  For whatever reason, the 
vault job for the incrementals piles a large amount of images into one 
duplication job, sometimes up to 4TB worth, and it never finishes in time 
for the tapes to go off that day. 

I am curious to know if anybody else has seen this, and if they have, what 
is a way around it? 

Thank you,

Scott

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[Veritas-bu] Large Duplication Jobs in Vault

2011-02-22 Thread scott . george
20.  I allow it to take up all of the available physical drives if 
possible.  My incrementals reside on VTL. 




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How many read/write drives do you use for the incremental vault job? If 
you use one pair then yes this is the default behavior.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] OpsCenter Analytics Licensing

2011-02-22 Thread scott . george
Unless you are licensed on a per/TB model, then it is included.




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Apparently the answer is on a per-client basis.

On 02/21/2011 10:19 AM, Nate Sanders wrote:
 How is OpsCenter Analytics licensed and what's the rough price? Is it
 just a single license or is it based on physical hardware, log volume
 size, number of master servers, etc?

 We have a single RHEL master, 2 media servers and around 40 policies
 with 50 clients.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5000 Series replication?

2011-01-29 Thread scott . george
We are about to do a proof of concept of one in a couple of weeks.  I will 
post the outcome. 

I would really like Oracle to release Solaris 11 with zfs deduplication. 
When that happens, its going to drive down the pricing in the market.

In the mean time, I am in the market too, and shopping around.




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We are in the market for a new backup/replication system.

We are looking at using NetBackup 7 with a NetBackup appliance, probably 
the 5020.

Is anyone using a NBU 5000 series device for replication?
How do you like it?
How was the setup?
How much data do you backup?
After dedup how much data do you replicate?

Do you replicate to a remote site?
If so, what is the distance and what kind of network are you using?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Vxfs restore to linux ext3 filesystem on RHEL 5.5

2010-11-16 Thread scott . george
How are you backing up the data?  If it is a file level backup, then the 
source or destination file system shouldn't matter.  From BAR, you can 
select the client with the vxfs file system as the source and the linux 
client as your destination.I don't think block size matters, because 
the file system will take care of that all on its own under the covers.

If you are doing any type of block level replication outside of NBU and 
want to mount the replicated volume, you have more than the file system 
differences to deal with.




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Quick question, I'm trying to get confirmation to the following question :

Can you restore a file from vxfs file system to an ext3 file system ?

There is nothing fancy like checkpoint etc on the source file system, I 
believe block sizes need to match up for a successful restore ... can 
anyone clarify please ?

Many thanks in advance

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Re: [Veritas-bu] restore windows files to a MAC

2010-09-09 Thread scott . george
I did this old school.  I turned on the FTP server on the Mac, and used 
Filezilla to mass copy everything over that I wanted.

It wasn't elegant, but it worked.

Scott E. George
Technical Specialist - Lead
UNIX Systems Administrator




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Anybody have any hints on how to restore files from a windows server to a 
MAC server?
 
Judy Hinchcliffe
AIX Systems Engineer, Technology - Infrastructure  Services
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] restore windows files to a MAC

2010-09-09 Thread scott . george
I forgot about the maillist. 

If you are doing this with NBU,  I would think backing up the Windows 
client as a standard client and then restoring from that backup would 
work.  I had a slew of Windows servers get changed to standard clients and 
they backed up just fine, but wouldn't show up as MS clients when it came 
time to restore.  Make a separate policy for the standard client of the 
Win server.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.0 - 7.0 upgrade errors

2010-08-05 Thread scott . george
It appears that you may be running a backlevel version of your C/C++ 
runtime libraries.  Which version of AIX and what TL/SP is it?  Also, what 
does lslpp -l|grep -i xlc show?


Scott E. George




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I have just ran the install script on our 64-bit AIX NBU 6.0 server and I 
get the following, any ideas;

Copying /usr/openv/netbackup/nblog.conf to
/usr/openv/netbackup/nblog.conf.08-05-10.08:56:39
for future reference.  Any local modifications to
/usr/openv/netbackup/nblog.conf should be re-evaluated.


Migrating log files in /usr/openv/logs
Info: Not all log files were migrated.
Migration of log files complete.

Could not load program /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bmrsetupclient:
Symbol resolution failed for /usr/openv/lib/libvxustdioST.so because:
Symbol _DoIs (number 70) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 71) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 80) is not exported 
from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
System error: Error 0
Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command.

Installing PBX...
Could not load program /opt/VRTSpbx/bin/vxlogcfg.bin:
Symbol resolution failed for /opt/VRTSpbx/lib/libvxustdio.so because:
Symbol _DoIs (number 71) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 72) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 81) is not exported 
from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
System error: Error 0
Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command.
Could not load program /opt/VRTSpbx/bin/vxlogcfg.bin:
Symbol resolution failed for /opt/VRTSpbx/lib/libvxustdio.so because:
Symbol _DoIs (number 71) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 72) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 81) is not exported 
from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
System error: Error 0
Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command.
Could not load program /opt/VRTSpbx/bin/vxlogcfg.bin:
Symbol resolution failed for /opt/VRTSpbx/lib/libvxustdio.so because:
Symbol _DoIs (number 71) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 72) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 81) is not exported 
from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
System error: Error 0


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.0 - 7.0 upgrade errors

2010-08-05 Thread scott . george
After I sent the last e-mail, I went to Symantec's site and found an 
interactive checklist generator:

https://vos.symantec.com/checklist/install#report

And generated this from the 6.0 GA to 7.0


Scott E. George




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I have just ran the install script on our 64-bit AIX NBU 6.0 server and I 
get the following, any ideas;

Copying /usr/openv/netbackup/nblog.conf to
/usr/openv/netbackup/nblog.conf.08-05-10.08:56:39
for future reference.  Any local modifications to
/usr/openv/netbackup/nblog.conf should be re-evaluated.


Migrating log files in /usr/openv/logs
Info: Not all log files were migrated.
Migration of log files complete.

Could not load program /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bmrsetupclient:
Symbol resolution failed for /usr/openv/lib/libvxustdioST.so because:
Symbol _DoIs (number 70) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 71) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 80) is not exported 
from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
System error: Error 0
Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command.

Installing PBX...
Could not load program /opt/VRTSpbx/bin/vxlogcfg.bin:
Symbol resolution failed for /opt/VRTSpbx/lib/libvxustdio.so because:
Symbol _DoIs (number 71) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 72) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 81) is not exported 
from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
System error: Error 0
Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command.
Could not load program /opt/VRTSpbx/bin/vxlogcfg.bin:
Symbol resolution failed for /opt/VRTSpbx/lib/libvxustdio.so because:
Symbol _DoIs (number 71) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 72) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 81) is not exported 
from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
System error: Error 0
Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command.
Could not load program /opt/VRTSpbx/bin/vxlogcfg.bin:
Symbol resolution failed for /opt/VRTSpbx/lib/libvxustdio.so because:
Symbol _DoIs (number 71) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 72) is not exported from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 81) is not exported 
from dependent
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o].
System error: Error 0


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.0 - 7.0 upgrade errors

2010-08-05 Thread scott . george
NBU 7.0 requires TL7/MP5.  Fix that and you are set.


Scott E. George
Technical Specialist - Lead
UNIX Systems Administrator
Phone:  (216)896-2197
E-mail:  scott.geo...@parker.com



From:
David McWilliams davidk...@gmail.com
To:
scott.george scott.geo...@parker.com
Date:
08/05/2010 09:27 AM
Subject:
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.0 - 7.0 upgrade errors



I'm at AIX 5.3 TL6.

I suspect you are correct;

# ldd /usr/openv/lib/libvxustdioST.so
/usr/openv/lib/libvxustdioST.so needs:
Cannot findCannot findCannot find/usr/lib/libC.a(shr_64.o)
 /usr/lib/libC.a(ansi_64.o)
 /usr/lib/libc.a(shr_64.o)
 /usr/lib/libC.a(ansicore_64.o)
 /usr/lib/libc_r.a(shr_64.o)
 /usr/lib/libC.a(shrcore_64.o)
 /usr/lib/libC.a(shr2_64.o)
 /usr/lib/libC.a(shr3_64.o)
 /unix
 /usr/lib/libcrypt.a(shr_64.o)


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David

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On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:17 AM, scott.geo...@parker.com wrote:
It appears that you may have some library dependencies broken.  First of 
all, which version of AIX are you running and at what TL/SP is it?   

When I do an lslpp -w on the real location of libC.a, I get: 

FileFileset   Type 
  
 

  /usr/lpp/xlC/lib/aix61/libC.a   xlC.aix61.rte File 

Which tells me you may be running a backlevel version of your C/C++ 
runtime libraries. 

Update that, and you should be golden. 


Scott E. George 



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Date: 
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I have just ran the install script on our 64-bit AIX NBU 6.0 server and I 
get the following, any ideas; 

Copying /usr/openv/netbackup/nblog.conf to 
/usr/openv/netbackup/nblog.conf.08-05-10.08:56:39 
for future reference.  Any local modifications to 
/usr/openv/netbackup/nblog.conf should be re-evaluated. 


Migrating log files in /usr/openv/logs 
Info: Not all log files were migrated. 
Migration of log files complete. 

Could not load program /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bmrsetupclient: 
Symbol resolution failed for /usr/openv/lib/libvxustdioST.so because: 
Symbol _DoIs (number 70) is not exported from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 71) is not exported from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 80) is not exported 
from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
System error: Error 0 
Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command. 

Installing PBX... 
Could not load program /opt/VRTSpbx/bin/vxlogcfg.bin: 
Symbol resolution failed for /opt/VRTSpbx/lib/libvxustdio.so because: 
Symbol _DoIs (number 71) is not exported from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 72) is not exported from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 81) is not exported 
from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
System error: Error 0 
Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command. 
Could not load program /opt/VRTSpbx/bin/vxlogcfg.bin: 
Symbol resolution failed for /opt/VRTSpbx/lib/libvxustdio.so because: 
Symbol _DoIs (number 71) is not exported from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 72) is not exported from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 81) is not exported 
from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
System error: Error 0 
Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command. 
Could not load program /opt/VRTSpbx/bin/vxlogcfg.bin: 
Symbol resolution failed for /opt/VRTSpbx/lib/libvxustdio.so because: 
Symbol _DoIs (number 71) is not exported from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
Symbol _Getctype__FPCc (number 72) is not exported from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
Symbol __ct__Q2_3std8_LocinfoFPCci (number 81) is not exported 
from dependent 
  module /usr/lib/libC.a[ansi_64.o]. 
System error: Error 0 


Sláinte,

David

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7 on AIX

2010-08-05 Thread scott . george
David,

I am running 7.0 in test right now, and it does have the ovpass driver 
installed and running.  All of the associated drivers and scripts are in 
/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/driver.

When I run lsdev, it is there and available:

corclv011:/usr/openv # lsdev -l ovpass0
ovpass0 Available 2U-08-2,0 VERITAS Media Changer

Is your robot SCSI or Fiber controlled?  That will determine how much work 
you will have to go through to configure it.  For SCSI, I think the 
install_ovpass script catches it.  For fiber, it is a bit more involved. 
Here is a doc from Symantec that gives the high level view:

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/326806.htm

Scott E. George




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Subject:
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I just upgraded our NBU 6.0 environment to 7.0. Part of the upgrade 
involves removing the ovpass driver, but nowhere does it say anything 
about reinstalling the driver. Does NBU7 no longer use ovpass or does 
anyone have instructions on reinstalling ovpass as I can't find 
an reference to it on the Symantec website.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

2010-07-19 Thread scott . george
Just to update everybody on this issue I have been having, it appears that 
there is an EEB to fix nbrb due to a locking issue. 

 http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/346920.htm

I have been running it for a week with no issues.  I have 21 days until I 
see if it fixes my problem.




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To:
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Date:
06/08/2010 12:15 PM
Subject:
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
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Datalink is our support organization for our NetBackup support, and I do 
have a case open with them.  I am in the process of collecting logs and 
waiting for it to happen again, which is an issue in itself.  I have to 
clear out the logs daily to avoid locking up the database.   

Curiously, Ms. Hinchcliffe is on the 6.5.5/AIX combo with no issues. 




From: 
Girish Jorapurkar giris...@yahoo.com 
To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/08/2010 12:07 PM 
Subject: 
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX




Hi, Scott, 

I am a Symantec employee working on NetBackup as an engineer. 

Just want to know if you have opened a support case for this problem. If 
yes, can you please tell the case id? 

Thanks, 
/Girish

--- On Mon, 6/7/10, scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com 
wrote: 

From: scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 9:57 PM

All that I have right now is a symptom.  We have a hourly script that 
utilizes vmquery to count the amount of scratch tapes, and sent the 
results to a mailbox.  If I leave the master server up for more than 2 
weeks (I haven't determined the exact amount of time), my hourly e-mail 
shows 0 scratch tapes, and all of the running backups fail for lack of 
tapes.  If I stop and restart NBU, everything is fine until the next 
iteration of the unknown period of time.  I didn't have this in 6.5.3.1, 
which was rock-solid IMHO, by the way.   





From: 
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 
To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/07/2010 11:55 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX





What is your issue?  As I am planning the upgrade and I am currently on 
6.5.5 ? I would really like to know what problem you have, that you think 
7.0 will fix.  Please share with me. 
 
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
scott.geo...@parker.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:59 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 
 
It may, but I want to go to 7.0.  I am dealing with a ~2 week recurring 
problem on 6.5.5, and nobody can tell me if it is addressed in 6.5.6.  I 
have come to realize that AIX seems to lag behind in support, and wanted 
to know if there was anybody else running 7.0 on it.   



From: 
Baumann, Kevin kbaum...@akamai.com 
To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/07/2010 10:48 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX


 







Does 6.5.6 offer 2008 support?  I think it does but I might be mistaken. 

From: scott.geo...@parker.com [mailto:scott.geo...@parker.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 

I was just wondering if there is anybody running 7.0 in production on an 
AIX master server.  We need it mostly for the 2008 support.  We are 
currently running 6.5.5. 

Thank you, 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

2010-07-19 Thread scott . george
No special accounts here.  They way they (Datalink) described it was that 
the deadlock condition described looked like what I was experiencing. 
Curiously, it may have addressed another nuisance issue I was having, 
which was not always completing deferred ejects cleanly.  What I was 
having my operators do was to kill the vault and restart it.  It would 
detect that all of the tapes are gone and run the reports.

Like I said, I'll know for sure in 3 weeks.

 



From:
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
To:
scott.geo...@parker.com, veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Date:
07/19/2010 10:47 AM
Subject:
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX



I see it has to do with the resource broker.
Do you have special accounts set up for access to NB?
 
The only thing I have ever done with the resource broker it when I set it 
up for my NOM server (which runs on windows).
 
 
 
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
scott.geo...@parker.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 9:17 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
 
Just to update everybody on this issue I have been having, it appears that 
there is an EEB to fix nbrb due to a locking issue.   

 http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/346920.htm 

I have been running it for a week with no issues.  I have 21 days until I 
see if it fixes my problem. 



From: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
To: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
Date: 
06/08/2010 12:15 PM 
Subject: 
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 
Sent by: 
veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 




Datalink is our support organization for our NetBackup support, and I do 
have a case open with them.  I am in the process of collecting logs and 
waiting for it to happen again, which is an issue in itself.  I have to 
clear out the logs daily to avoid locking up the database.   

Curiously, Ms. Hinchcliffe is on the 6.5.5/AIX combo with no issues. 



From: 
Girish Jorapurkar giris...@yahoo.com 
To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/08/2010 12:07 PM 
Subject: 
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
 

 

Hi, Scott, 

I am a Symantec employee working on NetBackup as an engineer. 

Just want to know if you have opened a support case for this problem. If 
yes, can you please tell the case id? 

Thanks, 
/Girish

--- On Mon, 6/7/10, scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com 
wrote: 

From: scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 9:57 PM

All that I have right now is a symptom.  We have a hourly script that 
utilizes vmquery to count the amount of scratch tapes, and sent the 
results to a mailbox.  If I leave the master server up for more than 2 
weeks (I haven't determined the exact amount of time), my hourly e-mail 
shows 0 scratch tapes, and all of the running backups fail for lack of 
tapes.  If I stop and restart NBU, everything is fine until the next 
iteration of the unknown period of time.  I didn't have this in 6.5.3.1, 
which was rock-solid IMHO, by the way.   





From: 
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 
To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/07/2010 11:55 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX






What is your issue?  As I am planning the upgrade and I am currently on 
6.5.5 ? I would really like to know what problem you have, that you think 
7.0 will fix.  Please share with me. 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
scott.geo...@parker.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:59 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 

It may, but I want to go to 7.0.  I am dealing with a ~2 week recurring 
problem on 6.5.5, and nobody can tell me if it is addressed in 6.5.6.  I 
have come to realize that AIX seems to lag behind in support, and wanted 
to know if there was anybody else running 7.0 on it.   
 


From: 
Baumann, Kevin kbaum...@akamai.com 
To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/07/2010 10:48 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX



 
 






Does 6.5.6 offer 2008 support?  I think it does but I might be mistaken. 

From: scott.geo...@parker.com [mailto:scott.geo...@parker.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 

I was just wondering if there is anybody running 7.0 in production on an 
AIX master server.  We need it mostly for the 2008 support.  We are 
currently running 6.5.5. 

Thank you, 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

2010-07-07 Thread scott . george
Judy,

I am curious as to what our differences may be, in regard why I am 
experiencing this issue and you are not.  It happened again over the 
weekend, and I was able to determine that it happens every 28 days, 
provided that I leave NBU up that long (which I normally do).  I was 
wondering if you stop and start NBU at shorter intervals. 

Naturally, I uploaded my obligatory 182MB of logs to support, and turned 
off logging (yeah!).  I will keep everybody posted as to the results of 
the case. 

I did notice, on a side note, that a vmquery is still running when this 
happens.  Murphy's law dictates that it happens very early on Sunday 
mornings, when my thinking isn't quite as sharp.  If I have to stretch 
this out for one more iteration, I am going to write a checklist of things 
to look at before I perform my restart. 

Scott



From:
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
To:
scott.geo...@parker.com
Date:
06/07/2010 12:33 PM
Subject:
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX



I agree the 6.5.3.1 was a solid release.
 
Strange issue, and just because it ran through my head ? have you verified 
that the previous run finishes completely before the next one starts?
 
I have not heard of any issue like that ? good luck with the upgrade.
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mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
scott.geo...@parker.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 11:28 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
 
All that I have right now is a symptom.  We have a hourly script that 
utilizes vmquery to count the amount of scratch tapes, and sent the 
results to a mailbox.  If I leave the master server up for more than 2 
weeks (I haven't determined the exact amount of time), my hourly e-mail 
shows 0 scratch tapes, and all of the running backups fail for lack of 
tapes.  If I stop and restart NBU, everything is fine until the next 
iteration of the unknown period of time.  I didn't have this in 6.5.3.1, 
which was rock-solid IMHO, by the way.   




From: 
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 
To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/07/2010 11:55 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
 




What is your issue?  As I am planning the upgrade and I am currently on 
6.5.5 ? I would really like to know what problem you have, that you think 
7.0 will fix.  Please share with me. 
  
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
scott.geo...@parker.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 
  
It may, but I want to go to 7.0.  I am dealing with a ~2 week recurring 
problem on 6.5.5, and nobody can tell me if it is addressed in 6.5.6.  I 
have come to realize that AIX seems to lag behind in support, and wanted 
to know if there was anybody else running 7.0 on it.   


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To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/07/2010 10:48 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

 
 





Does 6.5.6 offer 2008 support?  I think it does but I might be mistaken. 
 
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 
 
I was just wondering if there is anybody running 7.0 in production on an 
AIX master server.  We need it mostly for the 2008 support.  We are 
currently running 6.5.5. 

Thank you, 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

2010-06-08 Thread scott . george
Datalink is our support organization for our NetBackup support, and I do 
have a case open with them.  I am in the process of collecting logs and 
waiting for it to happen again, which is an issue in itself.  I have to 
clear out the logs daily to avoid locking up the database. 

Curiously, Ms. Hinchcliffe is on the 6.5.5/AIX combo with no issues. 





From:
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To:
scott.geo...@parker.com
Date:
06/08/2010 12:07 PM
Subject:
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX




Hi, Scott,

I am a Symantec employee working on NetBackup as an engineer.

Just want to know if you have opened a support case for this problem. If 
yes, can you please tell the case id?

Thanks,
/Girish

--- On Mon, 6/7/10, scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com 
wrote:

From: scott.geo...@parker.com scott.geo...@parker.com
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 9:57 PM

All that I have right now is a symptom.  We have a hourly script that 
utilizes vmquery to count the amount of scratch tapes, and sent the 
results to a mailbox.  If I leave the master server up for more than 2 
weeks (I haven't determined the exact amount of time), my hourly e-mail 
shows 0 scratch tapes, and all of the running backups fail for lack of 
tapes.  If I stop and restart NBU, everything is fine until the next 
iteration of the unknown period of time.  I didn't have this in 6.5.3.1, 
which was rock-solid IMHO, by the way.   





From: 
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 
To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/07/2010 11:55 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX




What is your issue?  As I am planning the upgrade and I am currently on 
6.5.5 ? I would really like to know what problem you have, that you think 
7.0 will fix.  Please share with me. 
  
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
scott.geo...@parker.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:59 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 
  
It may, but I want to go to 7.0.  I am dealing with a ~2 week recurring 
problem on 6.5.5, and nobody can tell me if it is addressed in 6.5.6.  I 
have come to realize that AIX seems to lag behind in support, and wanted 
to know if there was anybody else running 7.0 on it.   




From: 
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To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/07/2010 10:48 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

  






Does 6.5.6 offer 2008 support?  I think it does but I might be mistaken. 
 
From: scott.geo...@parker.com [mailto:scott.geo...@parker.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 
 
I was just wondering if there is anybody running 7.0 in production on an 
AIX master server.  We need it mostly for the 2008 support.  We are 
currently running 6.5.5. 

Thank you, 

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[Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

2010-06-07 Thread scott . george
I was just wondering if there is anybody running 7.0 in production on an 
AIX master server.  We need it mostly for the 2008 support.  We are 
currently running 6.5.5.

Thank you,

Scott

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

2010-06-07 Thread scott . george
It may, but I want to go to 7.0.  I am dealing with a ~2 week recurring 
problem on 6.5.5, and nobody can tell me if it is addressed in 6.5.6.  I 
have come to realize that AIX seems to lag behind in support, and wanted 
to know if there was anybody else running 7.0 on it. 





From:
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To:
scott.geo...@parker.com
Date:
06/07/2010 10:48 AM
Subject:
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX



Does 6.5.6 offer 2008 support?  I think it does but I might be mistaken.
 
From: scott.geo...@parker.com [mailto:scott.geo...@parker.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
 
I was just wondering if there is anybody running 7.0 in production on an 
AIX master server.  We need it mostly for the 2008 support.  We are 
currently running 6.5.5. 

Thank you, 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

2010-06-07 Thread scott . george
All that I have right now is a symptom.  We have a hourly script that 
utilizes vmquery to count the amount of scratch tapes, and sent the 
results to a mailbox.  If I leave the master server up for more than 2 
weeks (I haven't determined the exact amount of time), my hourly e-mail 
shows 0 scratch tapes, and all of the running backups fail for lack of 
tapes.  If I stop and restart NBU, everything is fine until the next 
iteration of the unknown period of time.  I didn't have this in 6.5.3.1, 
which was rock-solid IMHO, by the way. 





From:
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
To:
scott.geo...@parker.com
Date:
06/07/2010 11:55 AM
Subject:
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX



What is your issue?  As I am planning the upgrade and I am currently on 
6.5.5 ? I would really like to know what problem you have, that you think 
7.0 will fix.  Please share with me.
 
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
scott.geo...@parker.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:59 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
 
It may, but I want to go to 7.0.  I am dealing with a ~2 week recurring 
problem on 6.5.5, and nobody can tell me if it is addressed in 6.5.6.  I 
have come to realize that AIX seems to lag behind in support, and wanted 
to know if there was anybody else running 7.0 on it.   




From: 
Baumann, Kevin kbaum...@akamai.com 
To: 
scott.geo...@parker.com 
Date: 
06/07/2010 10:48 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
 




Does 6.5.6 offer 2008 support?  I think it does but I might be mistaken. 
  
From: scott.geo...@parker.com [mailto:scott.geo...@parker.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 
  
I was just wondering if there is anybody running 7.0 in production on an 
AIX master server.  We need it mostly for the 2008 support.  We are 
currently running 6.5.5. 

Thank you, 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] how fo fool nbu client versions

2010-05-30 Thread scott . george
I have tested this on some proprietary servers of my own, and the 5.1 
client works with 7.0, although not supported.  If you are running any 
6.5.x with a 5.1 client, that isn't supported either, so no harm, no foul. 
 From what I understand, the code base isn't that different from 6.5 to 
7.0, and that is why it works. 

Personally, I start to rail on and berate application owners who hold on 
to these systems.  If it were my power to do so, I would begin a system of 
chargeback whereby holding on these systems would be so cost prohibitive, 
the incentive would be there to move off of these systems.  It is ok to 
dream, isn't it?



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Date:
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I have a production machine that is running proprietary applications 
running on a server with FreeBSD5.2 that will not run on newer versions of 
FreeBSD.  I need a way to update the client from NBU 5.1 client so we can 
proceed to NBU 7 in our environment.  Does anyone have a helpful hint as 
to where I can start looking for a solution for this?
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe?

2010-04-06 Thread scott . george
I have been working on this as well, trying to get media server dedup 
working.  I am caught in a type of chicken/egg loop.  I can't create a 
PureDisk storage unit, because I don't have a disk pool, but when I go to 
create a disk pool, I don't have any volumes available.  Just exactly what 
volume is it looking for?  Googling around, it would appear that my media 
server doing the dedup would need to be PDOS.  The documentation says that 
RHEL 5 is a supported OS for media server dedup.  What gives?

BTW to Justin, there is no way to dedup to tape.  None, nada, never.





From:
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To:
Chapman, Scott scott.chap...@icbc.com
Cc:
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Date:
04/06/2010 12:03 PM
Subject:
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe?
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I believe you are correct, I asked if it was possible to do it with tape 
(crazy!) idea but no response yet =)  It looks like its limited to 
Puredisk/NBU7 disk tool.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Chapman, Scott wrote:

 Has anybody tried client side de-dup with something other than a
 puredisk pool?  (puredisk or netbackup 7 disk pool)  It is my
 understanding (which could be incorrect;-) that you can't use netbackup
 7 client side de-dup with any other type of disk pool.  ie  you can't
 use data domain on the backend when using client side dedup.



 Thanks!



 Scott Chapman

 Senior Technical Specialist

 Storage and Database Administration

 ICBC - Victoria

 Ph:  250.414.7650  Cell:  250.213.9295

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 These number aren't that hot compared to DataDomain from my use of it.

 We are seeing 86TB of backup images occupying 4.4TB of phys disk.

 On 4/1/2010 12:07 PM, Jon Bousselot wrote:

 I set it up in a small test environment, and started backing up three
 clients into a deduplication pool exclusively.  2 windows and 1 linux
 system

 The first pass wasn't that impressive, maybe a 5% to 10% de-dup ratio
 and it took a bit longer than just streaming that same data to tape or
 disk.

 The second pass had a 90% deduplication ratio, mostly because just 1
 week had passed since the first full backup and not every file changed.


 After three weeks, I had about 300GB of data deduplicated down into
 about 90GB of disk space.  The kbytes total reported from the catalog
 said 300G, and df -k said 90G.



 The data content of the three systems is typical for a user workstation.
 Email, photos, miscellaneous files.  De-dup let me put many versions of
 those same files into a backup without actually having many copies of
 that file spinning on disk.



 And then the disk holding the de-duplicated data developed a bunch of
 bad sectors and I lost it all.  Once I rebuild it, I'll check out the DR
 process for protecting your de-dup database and files.



 I also want to test client side de-duplication to see if that helps
 stream data compared to media server de-duplication alone.  The
 media/master server is a quad core with 8g ram, and the clients are a
 desktop and a laptop.  After seeing it run and observing the space
 savings it generates, I think it is a very creative way to solve some
 (not all) problems.  It is definitely not a set it and forget it
 technology.  You still need to monitor its utilization similar to how
 you would monitor basic disk or tape usage.



 -Jon



 

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 Hi,

 Is anyone using de-dupe?

 What kind of savings are you seeing?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Rel 7.0

2010-03-03 Thread scott . george
Getting ready to roll it into Test.  They give you similar warnings that 
they gave for the 5.1 to 6.0 upgrade, (i.e. database consistency), but I 
have heard that it isn't that brutal and glides right through that 
portion.  I gotta test dedupe really bad, so my test system will be on it 
in the next couple of weeks.

 



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On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Jim Caldwell wrote:

 I am contemplating installing NBU 7.0 any known issues or gotcha's? 
Solaris 10 is my Master/Media Server, clients, Solaris, Windows, Hyper-V 
and SQL. My current level is 6.5.4.

[ .. ]

It is built off the 6.5.4 code base, I only have been using it in test, 
but no problems so far.

I would love to hear what other people have to say.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Library management software for L180/L700

2010-02-18 Thread scott . george
What I think he is saying is that once you configure the IP address on the 
L700 and connect it to the network, you should be able to access it via a 
web browser.  http://ip address   No extra software needed.  I just went 
out and looked at mine and it does have an ethernet interface (unused by 
me).  I navigated through the menu and there is a place to configure the 
IP address.  Personally, the last thing I want is another piece of add-on 
software to manage another piece of hardware.  If it has a web interface, 
that is one up in my opinion.





Dushyant Mehta scorpio21...@gmail.com 
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Jeff, we do not have it. I am not sure why. The previous admin has left 
and we do not have any clue as to where can we get it. We see something 
called personality module installed on the L180 library, however Sun told 
us that if we setup ip and attach ethernet cable we would just have the 
view access to library. We need something to manage it as well.


On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Michael Anderson anderso...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
The horizon management software isn't software that you load on your PC.  
It is a physical module that is plugged into the Library and is then 
access over the internet via a web browser.
 
Hope that helps

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Library management software for L180/L700

All,

Does anyone have the software called Horizon Libray Management or 
Library Administrator ?
We have L180/L700 libraries that we want to manage remotely and are 
looking for this software.
We had originally purchased it but lost it now and Sun doesn't provide 
this software anymore.
If someone has the link to download it or get it from somewhere please let 
me know.

Thanks,

Dushyant Mehta

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Any ACSLS experts in the house?

2010-02-08 Thread scott . george
I can see an audit taking that long if there is considerable NBU/other 
activity during the audit.  We only have 3000 slots active for our SL8500, 
and when there is other activity other than the audit, the robot stops 
what it is doing, grabs a tape and mounts/unmounts it, and then gets back 
to its audit.  We have our tapes distributed well enough, and the audit 
takes no more than 25 minutes, when there is no activity. 





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I am in the same situation as Dean with regard to the SL8500.  I seem to 
recall though that ACSLS takes less time for an audit if the library is 
put into maintenance mode using ACSLS (vary acs or lsm, diagnostic) 
before opening the door.  I don’t know whether that is feasible for you or 
how it will work with the SL8500, but you might want to give it a try.
 
Best, 
 
George Herbert
Basline Storage Engineer - Backup
 
SunTrust Banks, Inc.
Live Solid. Bank Solid.
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To: Justin Piszcz; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Any ACSLS experts in the house?
 
Jeez, I haven't worked with a SL8500 - just the old 9310s, but I 
understand the differences. Does it really take up to 1.5 hours to audit 
an LSM? Jeepers! I currently work with a couple of fully loaded ~2000 slot 
IBM TS3500s (or whatever the latest designation is), and I'm sure a full 
physical inventory doesn't take more than 20 minutes. The only have one 
gripper too. I've stood there several times and watched the whole 
process through the glass panel and I'm quite sure I couldn't have stood 
there for 1.5 hours. My attention span is not that long.

I can't help with a script or anything to automate what you want to do. 
But you might also want to consider how doing this might affect mount 
times, if that's important to you. Depending on which LSM(s) your drives 
are in, doing this might cause a lot more pass-thrus; the process where a 
tape gets passed from one LSM to another. It was a fairly slow operation, 
although I'm sure it's been improved since the 9310 days.  But I guess you 
might have to weigh up what is more important to you? The time it takes to 
do a physical inventory, or your average mount time.

Just some thoughts :)
Cheers
Dean
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com 
wrote:
Hi,

I opened a case with Oracle but thought I would ask here.

If you have an SL8500, it has 4 LSMs.

Example:

1 (2500 slot/filled)
2 (2500 slot/filled)
3 10 tapes
4 10 tapes

If you have LSMs 1,2 filled to capacity.
When the robot does its audit after maintenance (opening doors) the robots
in LSMs 3,4 will finish auditing quickly.  Then its another ~1-1.5hrs for
LSMs 1,2.

If they were all equal it would cut audit times dramatically.

Has anyone written a script or have documentation on balancing tapes
between the LSMs?

The firmware at least of 4.14 does not seem to do this for you.

Justin.
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[Veritas-bu] Thoughts with BMR and RHEL4 on dissimilar hardware

2009-12-04 Thread scott . george
Greetings all,

We are testing BMR on RHEL 4 going to dissimilar hardware, and I was 
wondering if anybody else had some input on getting over some hurdles that 
we are experiencing.  We are currently using bonding with our network 
adapters at home, but don't care to in our DR test.  Upon the first 
reboot, the system attempts to configure bond0 and of course fails.  This 
makes BMR-FirstBoot hang until we interrupt it.  Then we just reconfigure 
the network adapters after the system is booted.  Also, I was wondering if 
anybody has scripted the Kudzu responses at boot time as well.  Both of 
these are nuisances, but I was wanted to see if anybody has done anything 
more definitive to get around stuff like this. 

Thanks, 

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[Veritas-bu] ALT_RESTORE_COPY_NUMBER file

2009-10-22 Thread scott . george
Our last DR exercise, we tried using this file to switch quickly to our 
duplicate copies.  What we found out is that it works perfectly for 
Windows clients, but doesn't work for UNIX clients unless bprestore is 
used from the command line.  We were using 6.0 MP5 last year, this year we 
are using 6.5.3.1.  Our master server is on AIX 5.3. 

Does anybody know if this was addressed in newer versions or is there a 
way for UI initiated restores to catch this?

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[Veritas-bu] BMR and tape consumption

2009-10-22 Thread scott . george
We just turned on BMR for a slew of Windows clients, and our tape 
consumption has increased drastically.  What am I missing?  I thought the 
BMR information was transferred back to the BMR Boot and Master servers, 
but no additional media would be required. 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Adding a DataDomain VTL need advice

2009-10-14 Thread scott . george
I am making the assumption that you:

a) have no requirement for offsite storage or to put it in industry terms, 
a disaster recovery requirement, and

b) are comfortable with keeping all of your backups on virtual storage.

Personally, I would be uneasy with this, because in the event of a 
catastrophic failure with your VTL (as highly unlikely as it is) your 
backups are gone.  If you are a smaller shop, this risk is acceptable.

On the upside, the performance increase is going to phenomenal.  We just 
replaced a non-deduping EMC VTL with a newer one.  One of the things that 
NetBackup required was to actually emulate the EMC virtual library. 
Otherwise, you will run into some licensing issues.  No biggie, the EMC 
could emulate as many drives and as many tapes as the physical disk 
storage would allow.  There is probably something similar with the Data 
Domain.







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All 
Our environment HP-UX 11.31 a SureStore 20/700 library with 10 LTO-1 
drives, NetBackup 6.5.2 Master / Media server and one Windows Media server 
using SSO. 
We are looking at purchasing a Data Domain device, eliminating the 
SureStore library as it is at its end of life and replacing it with a 
smaller library.  We have no experience with a VTL or what pitfalls or 
things to look out for while setting up the new environment.  Any advice 
on where to look to gather info, or experiences of what to look out for? 
Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] ACSLS ISSUE

2009-10-12 Thread scott . george
It appears that your solution may not be a software solution.  It would 
probably help if you gave us more information, like what kind of hardware 
is being driven by the ACSLS server?  Your hardware will differ on how it 
indicates hardware problems, but my first guess is that you have a robot 
down.





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Hi All,

Kindly provide me a solution for the below issue,

When i log in to my acsls server and check the logs it shows as 

Request: Transport Serial Number
Error: 0401 - General procedure error:  LSM is not ready
 
2009-10-11 21:07:24 DISMOUNT[0]:
546 N cl_log_lh_er.c 1  99
dm_lh_lsm_off: LH error type = LH_ERR_LSM_OFFLINE
 
Backups are not progressing and it is in queue for a long time. Hence how 
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[Veritas-bu] Orphaned scratch tapes

2009-10-12 Thread scott . george
We ran into a situation last week where we hit a tipping point that there 
would be more scratch tapes needed than were coming back from off site. 
Being the curious person that I am, I ran some commands to figure out what 
we had coming back, what were already in the library, and others that fell 
into neither category.  I verified the first two numbers with my operator 
on duty, and was thoroughly astonished by the third number, which ended up 
being over 900 tapes, some of which haven't been mounted since January 
2007.  I produced a list of these orphaned tapes for my operator, and he 
recalled them from offsite.  It turned out to be a good list.

My question is, has anybody experienced a problem with vaulting that tapes 
are not being recalled properly when they expire?  If so, how did you 
address it.  My solution is to produce an orphan list at a certain 
interval to recall these tapes, but I would like to get to the bottom of 
the issue and put it to rest.

Thank you!
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[Veritas-bu] Possible Disaster Recovery Exercise Problem introduced in 6.5.3.1

2009-10-02 Thread scott . george
Our last full blown DR exercise was done with 6.0 MP5, and our next one 
will be done with 6.5.3.1.  My master is on AIX 5.3 TL9.

I replicate my NBU server's operating system to another disk subsystem and 
boot the copy on somewhat similar hardware in a remote location. 
Everything works fine in this respect.  Naturally, I must remove old 
definitions for network adapters and tape drives and re-detect them, but 
that always works as advertised.

One of the first things that I do is remove any entries to SERVER and 
MEDIA_SERVER for my media servers in the bp.conf and DEVICE_HOST and KNOWN 
in the vm.conf, so that the master server isn't trying to contact them for 
anything.  Media servers are not brought back in the DR exercise.  They 
simply exist back home for speed using the SSO option.  They all contain 
a considerable amount of data, and trying to push that data over the 
network while everything else is backing up doesn't make sense.  For DR, 
everything is a restore, so pushing that data back over the network is 
fine, since it is a one-time-good-deal. 

We did a mini-test in August where I restored one Windows server, but 
noticed that with 6.5.3.1, everything was slow, but I wrote it off to the 
fact that the servers that are media servers at home, and are not media 
servers in DR, didn't exist during the mini-test, and the master server 
was still trying to communicate with them, because they still existed in 
the EMM database.  But now I am looking at it a little more suspiciously, 
thinking it may be a 6.5 thing, instead of a lack of hosts altogether 
thing.  My quick answer in August was It was trying to communicate with 
servers that weren't there and just timing out, but in January (when the 
big test happens) it will get connection refused because the same hosts 
will exist but not be media servers.

Is my logic flawed, or should I be looking to decommission the media 
servers in January as part of the test?  If I have to decommission the 
media servers, it is looking like an additional 2 hours due to the media 
movement I have to do in the database to actually remove the media 
servers.  It takes about 3 seconds a tape to move media, and I have a 
bunch of tapes to move logically, even though those tapes won't be touched 
at DR (I restore from duplicated copies).

Thoughts?

I apologize for the long-winded e-mail, but do appreciate your input.

Thanks!

Scott 


 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible Disaster Recovery Exercise Problem introduced in 6.5.3.1

2009-10-02 Thread scott . george
John,

I believe that's it.  Our documentation had references to the vmglob 
command, but gave to reason why.  That technote explains it.

As far as Sandor goes, what can you say about somebody who airs their 
dirty laundry in a public forum? ;-)

Thanks John!





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Have you tried this to disable EMM communication with them ? 

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/303842.htm

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introduced in 6.5.3.1

Our last full blown DR exercise was done with 6.0 MP5, and our next one 
will be done with 6.5.3.1.  My master is on AIX 5.3 TL9.

I replicate my NBU server's operating system to another disk subsystem and 

boot the copy on somewhat similar hardware in a remote location. 
Everything works fine in this respect.  Naturally, I must remove old 
definitions for network adapters and tape drives and re-detect them, but 
that always works as advertised.

One of the first things that I do is remove any entries to SERVER and 
MEDIA_SERVER for my media servers in the bp.conf and DEVICE_HOST and KNOWN 

in the vm.conf, so that the master server isn't trying to contact them for 

anything.  Media servers are not brought back in the DR exercise.  They 
simply exist back home for speed using the SSO option.  They all contain 

a considerable amount of data, and trying to push that data over the 
network while everything else is backing up doesn't make sense.  For DR, 
everything is a restore, so pushing that data back over the network is 
fine, since it is a one-time-good-deal. 

We did a mini-test in August where I restored one Windows server, but 
noticed that with 6.5.3.1, everything was slow, but I wrote it off to the 
fact that the servers that are media servers at home, and are not media 
servers in DR, didn't exist during the mini-test, and the master server 
was still trying to communicate with them, because they still existed in 
the EMM database.  But now I am looking at it a little more suspiciously, 
thinking it may be a 6.5 thing, instead of a lack of hosts altogether 
thing.  My quick answer in August was It was trying to communicate with 
servers that weren't there and just timing out, but in January (when the 
big test happens) it will get connection refused because the same hosts 
will exist but not be media servers.

Is my logic flawed, or should I be looking to decommission the media 
servers in January as part of the test?  If I have to decommission the 
media servers, it is looking like an additional 2 hours due to the media 
movement I have to do in the database to actually remove the media 
servers.  It takes about 3 seconds a tape to move media, and I have a 
bunch of tapes to move logically, even though those tapes won't be touched 

at DR (I restore from duplicated copies).

Thoughts?

I apologize for the long-winded e-mail, but do appreciate your input.

Thanks!

Scott 


 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Trying to back up SuSE10 Client

2009-08-10 Thread scott . george
My assumption has been that Linux clients are geared more around the 
version of the kernel than the actual operating system.  I don't see why 
the 2.6 won't work.





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Here are the particulars. 

Master and Media servers running Windows 2003 standard
 NetBackup 6.5.1

Client running SuSE10

I was putting this in a policy and it couldn't find the OS automatically. 
Tried to choose but SuSE10 isn't listed. The last SuSE OS I find is 2.6. 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] More tapes than cap space on eject

2009-06-19 Thread scott . george
I want to pass my gratitude on to Neil; this was the fix for my issue. For 
those who may be concerned, the NetBackup server starts the 5 minute 
counter when it gives the message to empty the cap.  For a server that has 
to communicate to ACSLS to fill 2 - 39 slot caps, the timer will expire 
before the caps are actually full.  I extended the MAP_CONTINUE_TIMEOUT 
parameter in vm.conf to 2400 and received good success with a 91 tape 
eject.

Thanks again Neil!




I only have experience with SCSI-controlled TLD and TL8 libraries, but 
this
might be useful...

Try ejecting a large batch of tapes manually and see how it behaves when 
the
cap fills:

vmchange -multi_eject -w -res -ml $EJECT_LIST -rt $ROBOT_TYPE \
-rn $ROBOT_NUM -rh $ROBOT_HOST


You can add this setting to vm.conf to control how long vmchange waits 
for
confirmation when the cap is filled (I think the default is 5 minutes).

MAP_CONTINUE_TIMEOUT = 1200

The way this works is that if no one acknowledges that the cap has been
emptied and reinserted before the timeout expires, then the library 
control
daemons die and vmchange aborts any further processing and exits with an
error.

HTH,
Neil



On 6/12/09 11:17 AM, scott.george at parker.com scott.george at 
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wrote:

 No, they are right on it, because they initiate the eject with the
 deferred eject.  What happens is the vault runs and does all of its 
dupes
 and the finishes without ejecting anything.  When they notice the vault 
is
 done, they expand out Vault Management down to the job itself and 
right
 click ---Deferred Eject.  It then kicks out all of the tapes, well, 78 
of
 them.  They are really good on their timing (like within 30 minutes of 
the
 vault finishing). The problem is, when they empty both caps and close 
them
 back up, the remaining tapes don't eject, and the deferred eject job 
hangs
 for a long time (at least an hour).  It was shorter in 6.0.  Today, we
 just killed the job and ran reports from vltopmenu to genterate ftp 
files
 and reports, and ejected the tapes manually.  I tried ejecting 90 tapes
 manually, and only got 38 of them out.  I checked the ACSLS server and 
q
 req all showed nothing.  The eject job only showed the 39 tapes 
ejected,
 with the others waiting.  When I emptied and closed the cap, nothing
 progressed.  I ended up killing the eject.
 
 
 
 
 
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 We aren't sending that many tapes offsite, but I do have similar issues
 with the ACS libraries hanging in eject mode until the cap is emptied 
and
 then closed in an empty state. I really hate this operation, btw, but we
 utilize the eject notification to email the operators to inform them 
they
 need to go empty the cap asap. Is your crew not getting to it in enough
 time (like hours)? If  ours do not get to it in 3 or 4 hours, or don't
 shut the cap when it's empty, this causes vault to hang up because acsls
 doesn't give the all clear.
 
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 All,
 
 I have a NBU 6.5.3.1 server running AIX. and a STK SL8500 Library with
 dual 39-slot caps, driven by ACSLS.  Our vault jobs are to the point 
where
 
 they are consistently more than 78 tapes, and when the deferred ejects 
are
 
 performed, the remaining x-78 tapes will not eject.  We just upgraded to
 6.5.3.1 on Wednesday from 6.0MP5, which only seemed to prolong the vault
 job.  The same symptoms ocurred in both versions, but 6.5 is really
 waiting for the final tapes to eject (or so it seems).  Based on our
 observations, it appears that this is an ACSLS problem, but I wanted to
 see if anybody had any suggestions on how to know for sure.  We have
 really been ignoring this since the operators were satisfied with 
ejecting
 
 the remaining tapes manually.  But since the deferred eject is now 
hanging
 
 until it gets good eject status of the remaining tapes (again, I don't
 know that for sure), this has become a more urgent issue.
 
 Has anybody seen anything like this before?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Scott
 
 
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[Veritas-bu] More tapes than cap space on eject

2009-06-12 Thread scott . george
All,

I have a NBU 6.5.3.1 server running AIX. and a STK SL8500 Library with 
dual 39-slot caps, driven by ACSLS.  Our vault jobs are to the point where 
they are consistently more than 78 tapes, and when the deferred ejects are 
performed, the remaining x-78 tapes will not eject.  We just upgraded to 
6.5.3.1 on Wednesday from 6.0MP5, which only seemed to prolong the vault 
job.  The same symptoms ocurred in both versions, but 6.5 is really 
waiting for the final tapes to eject (or so it seems).  Based on our 
observations, it appears that this is an ACSLS problem, but I wanted to 
see if anybody had any suggestions on how to know for sure.  We have 
really been ignoring this since the operators were satisfied with ejecting 
the remaining tapes manually.  But since the deferred eject is now hanging 
until it gets good eject status of the remaining tapes (again, I don't 
know that for sure), this has become a more urgent issue. 

Has anybody seen anything like this before?

Thank you,

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Re: [Veritas-bu] More tapes than cap space on eject

2009-06-12 Thread scott . george
No, they are right on it, because they initiate the eject with the 
deferred eject.  What happens is the vault runs and does all of its dupes 
and the finishes without ejecting anything.  When they notice the vault is 
done, they expand out Vault Management down to the job itself and right 
click ---Deferred Eject.  It then kicks out all of the tapes, well, 78 of 
them.  They are really good on their timing (like within 30 minutes of the 
vault finishing). The problem is, when they empty both caps and close them 
back up, the remaining tapes don't eject, and the deferred eject job hangs 
for a long time (at least an hour).  It was shorter in 6.0.  Today, we 
just killed the job and ran reports from vltopmenu to genterate ftp files 
and reports, and ejected the tapes manually.  I tried ejecting 90 tapes 
manually, and only got 38 of them out.  I checked the ACSLS server and q 
req all showed nothing.  The eject job only showed the 39 tapes ejected, 
with the others waiting.  When I emptied and closed the cap, nothing 
progressed.  I ended up killing the eject.





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We aren't sending that many tapes offsite, but I do have similar issues 
with the ACS libraries hanging in eject mode until the cap is emptied and 
then closed in an empty state. I really hate this operation, btw, but we 
utilize the eject notification to email the operators to inform them they 
need to go empty the cap asap. Is your crew not getting to it in enough 
time (like hours)? If  ours do not get to it in 3 or 4 hours, or don't 
shut the cap when it's empty, this causes vault to hang up because acsls 
doesn't give the all clear. 

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All,

I have a NBU 6.5.3.1 server running AIX. and a STK SL8500 Library with 
dual 39-slot caps, driven by ACSLS.  Our vault jobs are to the point where 

they are consistently more than 78 tapes, and when the deferred ejects are 

performed, the remaining x-78 tapes will not eject.  We just upgraded to 
6.5.3.1 on Wednesday from 6.0MP5, which only seemed to prolong the vault 
job.  The same symptoms ocurred in both versions, but 6.5 is really 
waiting for the final tapes to eject (or so it seems).  Based on our 
observations, it appears that this is an ACSLS problem, but I wanted to 
see if anybody had any suggestions on how to know for sure.  We have 
really been ignoring this since the operators were satisfied with ejecting 

the remaining tapes manually.  But since the deferred eject is now hanging 

until it gets good eject status of the remaining tapes (again, I don't 
know that for sure), this has become a more urgent issue. 

Has anybody seen anything like this before?

Thank you,

Scott


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Re: [Veritas-bu] BMR Tape/Database syncronization question

2009-06-05 Thread scott . george
I apologize for the stupid question, now that I have my test environment 
back up and running (I asked the question blindly).  For those who may 
have been lurking, BMR gives you the option to create a new configuration 
other than current based on older backups.  No expiring of missing 
images needed.  Just choose a date that resides on the tapes you have, and 
the rest is history.





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I have configured and tested BMR in my test environment, and am getting 
ready to go to 6.5.3.1 next week in production.  We replicate our NBU 
server's rootvg (AIX) to SAN storage at our DR location, where similar 
hardware sits ready to boot when the line is cut.  Naturally, this will 
keep the database as most current as it can be.  The question lies in the 
tapes that get shipped to the DR site, they will more than likely be at 
least 3 days old.  My question is what kind of snafu will this do to my 
BMR operation, because I assume that it will try to use the most current 
copies of the target client?  I have thought about expiring the 3 day gap, 

but I wanted to solicit some opinions and possibly past experiences before 

I venture into that territory. 

Thank you greatly in advance,

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[Veritas-bu] BMR Tape/Database syncronization question

2009-06-02 Thread scott . george
I have configured and tested BMR in my test environment, and am getting 
ready to go to 6.5.3.1 next week in production.  We replicate our NBU 
server's rootvg (AIX) to SAN storage at our DR location, where similar 
hardware sits ready to boot when the line is cut.  Naturally, this will 
keep the database as most current as it can be.  The question lies in the 
tapes that get shipped to the DR site, they will more than likely be at 
least 3 days old.  My question is what kind of snafu will this do to my 
BMR operation, because I assume that it will try to use the most current 
copies of the target client?  I have thought about expiring the 3 day gap, 
but I wanted to solicit some opinions and possibly past experiences before 
I venture into that territory. 

Thank you greatly in advance,

Scott
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Re: [Veritas-bu] AIX 4.3.3 Client

2009-05-18 Thread scott . george
John,

Thanks for the advice, this one is the winner.  We had the 4.5 client 
installed on the AIX 4.3.3 server, for what seems like forever.  The 
previous admin (and my boss) told me that he attempted to install a newer 
version without success.  I took him at his word.  After your post, I felt 
inspired to attempt it myself.  I found my stash of 5.1 media and 
installed the client on my test 4.3.3 server.  Test backups and restores 
succeeded.

Thanks a million,

Scott




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Greg, as far as I can tell, the NB 5.1 client supports AIX 4.3.3.10.
Why not just update the AIX client to 5.1 which does works with 6.x?
We have a number clients running 5.1 with our 6.5.3 server.

John

scott.geo...@parker.com wrote:
 Greetings all,
 
 We have an AIX 4.3.3 client that is naturally unsupported, but still 
 working under NBU 6.0 MP5.  We have scheduled to go to 6.5.3.1, but 
found 
 out that this client (I think it is a 4.5 client) will not even work 
 anymore.  Now we have been told that this may put the brakes on the 
entire 
 project.
 
 I am wondering what creative things people may have done to keep their 
 ancient clients backing up.
 
 I am just looking for some ideas, and all are appreciated!
 
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[Veritas-bu] AIX 4.3.3 Client

2009-05-15 Thread scott . george
Greetings all,

We have an AIX 4.3.3 client that is naturally unsupported, but still 
working under NBU 6.0 MP5.  We have scheduled to go to 6.5.3.1, but found 
out that this client (I think it is a 4.5 client) will not even work 
anymore.  Now we have been told that this may put the brakes on the entire 
project.

I am wondering what creative things people may have done to keep their 
ancient clients backing up.

I am just looking for some ideas, and all are appreciated!

Scott

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Clear Case Backups

2009-05-12 Thread scott . george
The only way I have ever seen to backup Clear Case is to bring it down and 
backup the directory.  I do something similar where I backup a file system 
that has to be syncronized with my DB2 database.  Basically, you create a 
separate policy that is user-initiated, and execute that policy from a 
script that brings ClearCase down, runs the backup, and brings ClearCase 
back up. 


My 2 cents.





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What is the best way to backup Clear Case Infrastructure? 
 
We have 2 servers running Aix 5.1 with Oracle 10g on the db server.
 
We want to use Netbackup 6.5 but can’t find an agent for the clearcase db 
(proprietary db). 
 
Just looking for some insight from others.
 
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[Veritas-bu] BMR on 6.5.3

2009-02-06 Thread scott . george
Greetings all,

I am testing BMR with 6.5.3 on a AIX 5.3 client.  My SRT and my client are 
patched to the same level.  The entire restore process moves like it 
should, but the bosboot doesn't succeed at the end, and the log gives me 
this error:

0301-154 bosboot: missing proto file: /tmp/bosboot_9388_6192/filesystems

I saw older notes about 6.0 MP5 not supporting virtualized clients, but 
nothing about 6.5, and this is a virtualized client.

Just wondering if anybody else has done this successfully.

Thanks,

Scott
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[Veritas-bu] [veritas-bu] Issues with vault

2008-10-06 Thread scott . george
I am running NBU 6.0 MP5 with multiple MAP binary fix on AIX 5.3

I have one of three vault jobs that is not ejecting tapes.  The vault jobs 
initiates the normal duplicates during the process, and ends normally. 
When I initiate the deferred eject for the job, it flows through like it 
normally does but ejects no tapes.  In the body of the original vault job, 
I can see that it duplicated numerous images.  There are no errors in the 
logs of the SID directory.  I try to manually eject tapes for  the session 
(from vltopmenu) but get the same results.  Just wondering if anybody has 
seen this before.

Thanks in advance.

Scott 
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