Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-30 Thread Clooney, David
Thanks Tejas

What if our unix NIS domain and windows domain are separate entities? Is
it possible to authorize a user on a media server when the account does
not exist i.e unix  windows accounts are different ?

Dave


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 windows and unix use different authentication methods which vxss
relies on therefore from the command logged in as userA on a unix box
how do you pull info from a windows media server ? 

Dave,
As long as both media servers (on unix and windows) are part of the same
Root Broker hierarchy and the logged in user has been authorized on both
media servers, you should be able to to pull info with the same user.

Once again, please refer to the yellow book for details.

-Tejas

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-30 Thread Jared . Seaton
I am using unixpwd on the master server (which is the root and ab), I 
logged into my 2k3 media server and did bpnbat -login :

After successful login i ran a  tpconfig -emm_dev_list without error.


Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\binbpnbat -login
Authentication Broker: mgw-unx-nbu1.myl.com
Authentication port [0 is default]:
Authentication type (NIS, NISPLUS, WINDOWS, vx, unixpwd): unixpwd
Domain: mgw-unx-nbu1.myl.com
Login Name: ssarangi
Password: 
Operation completed successfully.

D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin





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Thanks Tejas

What if our unix NIS domain and windows domain are separate entities? Is
it possible to authorize a user on a media server when the account does
not exist i.e unix  windows accounts are different ?

Dave


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 windows and unix use different authentication methods which vxss
relies on therefore from the command logged in as userA on a unix box
how do you pull info from a windows media server ? 

Dave,
As long as both media servers (on unix and windows) are part of the same
Root Broker hierarchy and the logged in user has been authorized on both
media servers, you should be able to to pull info with the same user.

Once again, please refer to the yellow book for details.

-Tejas

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-30 Thread Ellis, Jason
Does VxSS also allow for auditing of what users are doing when they are
logged into the servers in terms of NetBackup activities (i.e.
creation/deletion of policies, modification of schedules, etc)? In
addition to locking down our application I'd also like to implement
auditing so if we have a failure we can root cause the problem and make
any changes to documentation or training needed to prevent future
issues.

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I am using unixpwd on the master server (which is the root and ab), I
logged into my 2k3 media server and did bpnbat -login : 

After successful login i ran a  tpconfig -emm_dev_list without error. 


Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] 
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. 

D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\binbpnbat -login 
Authentication Broker: mgw-unx-nbu1.myl.com 
Authentication port [0 is default]: 
Authentication type (NIS, NISPLUS, WINDOWS, vx, unixpwd): unixpwd 
Domain: mgw-unx-nbu1.myl.com 
Login Name: ssarangi 
Password:  
Operation completed successfully. 

D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin 





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Mylan Laboratories Inc.
304-554-5926
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Thanks Tejas

What if our unix NIS domain and windows domain are separate entities? Is
it possible to authorize a user on a media server when the account does
not exist i.e unix  windows accounts are different ?

Dave


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Re: Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?


 windows and unix use different authentication methods which vxss
relies on therefore from the command logged in as userA on a unix box
how do you pull info from a windows media server ? 

Dave,
As long as both media servers (on unix and windows) are part of the same
Root Broker hierarchy and the logged in user has been authorized on both
media servers, you should be able to to pull info with the same user.

Once again, please refer to the yellow book for details.

-Tejas

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-29 Thread Jared . Seaton
Actually just yesterday I tried using command line bpbnaz and got it 
working.  I will check out that link, but there really is a lack of good 
documentation for such a complicated product.


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Kyle, if you need to administer NetBackup as a non-root user, VxSS is the 
right option.

The most authoritative document on installing and configuring VxSS is the 
recently released Symantec Product Authentication and Authorization Yellow 
Book. The book has separate chapters dealing with Windows and Linux/Unix 
use cases and multiple product deployment scenarios.

It can be downloaded from 
http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/theme.jsp?themeid=yellowbooks

Jared, there are ways to define custom permission sets. Contact the 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-29 Thread Clooney, David
From the GUI's yes, how bout the command line ?

D

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Kyle, if you need to administer NetBackup as a non-root user, VxSS is
the right option.

The most authoritative document on installing and configuring VxSS is
the recently released Symantec Product Authentication and Authorization
Yellow Book. The book has separate chapters dealing with Windows and
Linux/Unix use cases and multiple product deployment scenarios.

It can be downloaded from
http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/theme.jsp?themeid=yellowbooks

Jared, there are ways to define custom permission sets. Contact the
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-29 Thread Clooney, David
Jared,

 

That's just the tip of the iceberg, that is a specific VXSS command and
should work straight off the bat, wait till you start trying to use the
standard NBU commands to pull of info from media  servers etc out there
that are possibly running on different platforms.  i.e windows and unix
use different authentication methods which vxss relies on therefore from
the command logged in as userA on a unix box how do you pull info from a
windows media server ?

 

 

There are certain bprsh commands that can incorporate your standard nbu
commands however I still am not a fan at all.

 

Have Fun :-)

 

Dave

 



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Actually just yesterday I tried using command line bpbnaz and got it
working.  I will check out that link, but there really is a lack of good
documentation for such a complicated product. 


Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Laboratories Inc.
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Kyle, if you need to administer NetBackup as a non-root user, VxSS is
the right option.

The most authoritative document on installing and configuring VxSS is
the recently released Symantec Product Authentication and Authorization
Yellow Book. The book has separate chapters dealing with Windows and
Linux/Unix use cases and multiple product deployment scenarios.

It can be downloaded from
http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/theme.jsp?themeid=yellowbooks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-28 Thread Clooney, David
The current environment I work in uses VXSS after working in many that
haven't. From my point of view it  is a pain in the arse.

 

Whenever I encounter issues VXSS is disabled first, just recently I was
developing a cross site catalog backup strategy utilising NBU catalog
command line utility (with root priv). Catalog backups completed however
failed in activity monitor with a error code 50. disable VXSS and away
you go. A new binary had to be sent from Symantec.

 

Along with this I think you will find a number of command switches might
have issue , an example I have come across is vmoprcmd's
-crawreleasbyname, she not work with VXSS

 

Dave

 



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Here is a guide that shows how to install on Solaris (9) and setting up
NIS.  I don't use NIS so I didn't do the NIS part. 

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
_Server/281626.pdf 

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I would agree it is painful. Not to mention you probably don't want to
install it 
on the master server lest it hoark your configuration files (I am
running on Solaris 10). 

There's also no way to use NIS (or the support folks are not aware of
how to do it). So you 
effectively need to create accounts for each user you want to have
access. 




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I am currently in the process of testing VXSS, and it is somewhat
painful.  I have it setup and working correctly with most default
settings.  In permissions of the user groups you cannot select just to
allow a group to restart and resume jobs from activity monitor.  You
have to select everything under Operate and cannot select individual
permissions under that. 

I have tried to setup custom permissions sets, they appear to be correct
but I am unable to use them.  There are also about 5 different documents
about setting up VXSS on the Symantec support site, each varying
slightly. 

I have it running on a solaris 9 master and have aix and windows media
all working with vxss, if I could figure out a way to define custom
permission sets this would be great product. 


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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Kyle Oliver wrote:


 Everything I read out on the web suggests the setting up of VXSS is a
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 Thanks,
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Everything I read out on the web suggests the setting up of VXSS is a perilous 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-27 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Kyle Oliver wrote:


 Everything I read out on the web suggests the setting up of VXSS is a 
 perilous task.  Has anyone successfully set it up?

 Thanks,
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-27 Thread Jared . Seaton
I am currently in the process of testing VXSS, and it is somewhat painful. 
 I have it setup and working correctly with most default settings.  In 
permissions of the user groups you cannot select just to allow a group to 
restart and resume jobs from activity monitor.  You have to select 
everything under Operate and cannot select individual permissions under 
that.

I have tried to setup custom permissions sets, they appear to be correct 
but I am unable to use them.  There are also about 5 different documents 
about setting up VXSS on the Symantec support site, each varying slightly.

I have it running on a solaris 9 master and have aix and windows media all 
working with vxss, if I could figure out a way to define custom permission 
sets this would be great product.


Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Laboratories Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell)




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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Kyle Oliver wrote:


 Everything I read out on the web suggests the setting up of VXSS is a 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-27 Thread Ian Clements
 
I would agree it is painful. Not to mention you probably don't want to
install it 
on the master server lest it hoark your configuration files (I am
running on Solaris 10). 

There's also no way to use NIS (or the support folks are not aware of
how to do it). So you 
effectively need to create accounts for each user you want to have
access. 




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I am currently in the process of testing VXSS, and it is somewhat
painful.  I have it setup and working correctly with most default
settings.  In permissions of the user groups you cannot select just to
allow a group to restart and resume jobs from activity monitor.  You
have to select everything under Operate and cannot select individual
permissions under that. 

I have tried to setup custom permissions sets, they appear to be correct
but I am unable to use them.  There are also about 5 different documents
about setting up VXSS on the Symantec support site, each varying
slightly. 

I have it running on a solaris 9 master and have aix and windows media
all working with vxss, if I could figure out a way to define custom
permission sets this would be great product. 


Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Laboratories Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell)




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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Kyle Oliver wrote:


 Everything I read out on the web suggests the setting up of VXSS is a
perilous task.  Has anyone successfully set it up?

 Thanks,
 Kyle



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

2007-08-27 Thread Jared . Seaton
Here is a guide that shows how to install on Solaris (9) and setting up 
NIS.  I don't use NIS so I didn't do the NIS part.

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/281626.pdf

Jared M. Seaton
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Mylan Laboratories Inc.
304-554-5926
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I would agree it is painful. Not to mention you probably don't want to
install it 
on the master server lest it hoark your configuration files (I am
running on Solaris 10). 

There's also no way to use NIS (or the support folks are not aware of
how to do it). So you 
effectively need to create accounts for each user you want to have
access. 




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Cc: Kyle Oliver; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?


I am currently in the process of testing VXSS, and it is somewhat
painful.  I have it setup and working correctly with most default
settings.  In permissions of the user groups you cannot select just to
allow a group to restart and resume jobs from activity monitor.  You
have to select everything under Operate and cannot select individual
permissions under that. 

I have tried to setup custom permissions sets, they appear to be correct
but I am unable to use them.  There are also about 5 different documents
about setting up VXSS on the Symantec support site, each varying
slightly. 

I have it running on a solaris 9 master and have aix and windows media
all working with vxss, if I could figure out a way to define custom
permission sets this would be great product. 


Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Laboratories Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell)




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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Kyle Oliver wrote:


 Everything I read out on the web suggests the setting up of VXSS is a
perilous task.  Has anyone successfully set it up?

 Thanks,
 Kyle



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