Re: [Veritas-bu] DB backup tapes and DR

2006-12-22 Thread bob944
 Ok I have a DR question for everyone. I have 3 sites. All 3 of them
 have master servers. All sites do tape vaulting and send their tapes
 to the main site for DR storage of a week and then are sent back. 
 However, the db backup tapes for netbackup do not get vaulted out.
 I tried this once and when the db backup job ran the next day for
 the one remote site it complained about not having its netbackup
 tape in the robot. So my question is, How does everyone else
 handle remote sites that have masters and db backup tapes?  Our
 main site backs up to disk so that is not a problem but the
 smaller remote sites keep their tapes onsite. Any
 ideas or suggestions?

Greg - did this ever get answered?  I didn't see it when I was catching
up.

Regarding:
 However, the db backup tapes for netbackup do not get vaulted out.
 I tried this once and when the db backup job ran the next day for
 the one remote site it complained about not having its netbackup
 tape in the robot.

It shouldn't have been ejected, unless you have a process to eject it
and replace it, physically, and update the bpsyncinfo data in the
configure catalog backups interface.

You can it differently, but the way Vault has always worked is that it
produces a _new_ catalog backup tape--you don't eject either of the two
offline-catalog-backup tapes.  This part of the sequence is 

o  duplicate images (optional) to Duplicates (historical, not required)
pool
o  duplicate (actually, make a new one) the catalog backup to
NBDB_Duplicates (again, the old 3.1 name for the pool)
o  eject everything in Duplicates and NBDB_Duplicates
o  inject everything returned from offsite

The new catalog backup your produce will also have the information about
the duplicatations that happen just before you produce it, as well.

Note that the offline catalog backup process does _not_ draw tapes from
your scratch pool as normal backups do.  You must seed the
NBDB_Duplicates pool with tapes or Vault's catalog backup step will
fail.  As there is nothing with less value than an older catalog backup
tape, if you have a daily run from your offsite vendor, and handle tapes
individually (rather than in cases), set the retention on
NBDB_Duplicates to, say, 7 days (no matter what the retention of the
other tapes you send out) and have more than seven tapes in that pool.
That covers days/weekends/holidays/mistakes when one doesn't get brought
back for a few days and you don't have to worry about it again.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] DB backup tapes and DR

2006-12-06 Thread Clooney, David
Rsync is great, use it too .

Dave 

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I do something similar.  I backup my catalogue to Disk.  I then rsync
both the catalogue and images to the DR site.

Steve 

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If you re just talking the catalogue backups then i have mine done to
tape which remains in the robot and then i run a job from cron ( unix )
which runs a script containing bpbackupdb to a file store location.

I then scp these compressed files over to my DR site for the event of DR
where i turn my DR netbackup server into my production netbackup server
by restoring the catalogues ( and a bit of other jiggery pokery ).

Hope that helps
Dave

Hindle, Greg wrote:

 Ok I have a DR question for everyone. I have 3 sites. All 3 of them 
 have master servers. All sites do tape vaulting and send their tapes 
 to the main site for DR storage of a week and then are sent back.
 However, the db backup tapes for netbackup do not get vaulted out. I 
 tried this once and when the db backup job ran the next day for the 
 one remote site it complained about not having its netbackup tape in 
 the robot. So my question is, How does everyone else handle remote 
 sites that have masters and db backup tapes?  Our main site backs up 
 to disk so that is not a problem but the smaller remote sites keep 
 their tapes onsite. Any ideas or suggestions?


 Greg

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Re: [Veritas-bu] DB backup tapes and DR

2006-12-05 Thread Darren Dunham
 Ok I have a DR question for everyone. I have 3 sites. All 3 of them have
 master servers. All sites do tape vaulting and send their tapes to the
 main site for DR storage of a week and then are sent back. However, the
 db backup tapes for netbackup do not get vaulted out. I tried this once
 and when the db backup job ran the next day for the one remote site it
 complained about not having its netbackup tape in the robot. So my
 question is, How does everyone else handle remote sites that have
 masters and db backup tapes?  Our main site backs up to disk so that is
 not a problem but the smaller remote sites keep their tapes onsite. Any
 ideas or suggestions?

Vault should have an option to duplicate your DB tape to include in the
vault.  Do you have that set?  Is it getting duplicated and not
included, or is it not getting duplicated?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] DB backup tapes and DR

2006-12-05 Thread Steve Fogarty
I do something similar.  I backup my catalogue to Disk.  I then rsync both
the catalogue and images to the DR site.

Steve 

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To: Hindle, Greg
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] DB backup tapes and DR

If you re just talking the catalogue backups then i have mine done to tape
which remains in the robot and then i run a job from cron ( unix ) which
runs a script containing bpbackupdb to a file store location.

I then scp these compressed files over to my DR site for the event of DR
where i turn my DR netbackup server into my production netbackup server by
restoring the catalogues ( and a bit of other jiggery pokery ).

Hope that helps
Dave

Hindle, Greg wrote:

 Ok I have a DR question for everyone. I have 3 sites. All 3 of them 
 have master servers. All sites do tape vaulting and send their tapes 
 to the main site for DR storage of a week and then are sent back.
 However, the db backup tapes for netbackup do not get vaulted out. I 
 tried this once and when the db backup job ran the next day for the 
 one remote site it complained about not having its netbackup tape in 
 the robot. So my question is, How does everyone else handle remote 
 sites that have masters and db backup tapes?  Our main site backs up 
 to disk so that is not a problem but the smaller remote sites keep 
 their tapes onsite. Any ideas or suggestions?


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Re: [Veritas-bu] DB backup tapes and DR

2006-12-05 Thread WEAVER, Simon

I rotate my tapes - so every week, they rotate and stored in a safe.

I have even created my own DR solution, which gives anyone the need to put
in a CD, restore Server from image, and run bprecover.

I used to do disk-based backups. Not anymore. I do however, take OFFLINE
Backups of the system - though its not supported, but it does work and has
been used as a last resort method.

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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I do something similar.  I backup my catalogue to Disk.  I then rsync both
the catalogue and images to the DR site.

Steve 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:51 PM
To: Hindle, Greg
Cc: NB List Mail
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] DB backup tapes and DR

If you re just talking the catalogue backups then i have mine done to tape
which remains in the robot and then i run a job from cron ( unix ) which
runs a script containing bpbackupdb to a file store location.

I then scp these compressed files over to my DR site for the event of DR
where i turn my DR netbackup server into my production netbackup server by
restoring the catalogues ( and a bit of other jiggery pokery ).

Hope that helps
Dave

Hindle, Greg wrote:

 Ok I have a DR question for everyone. I have 3 sites. All 3 of them
 have master servers. All sites do tape vaulting and send their tapes 
 to the main site for DR storage of a week and then are sent back.
 However, the db backup tapes for netbackup do not get vaulted out. I 
 tried this once and when the db backup job ran the next day for the 
 one remote site it complained about not having its netbackup tape in 
 the robot. So my question is, How does everyone else handle remote 
 sites that have masters and db backup tapes?  Our main site backs up 
 to disk so that is not a problem but the smaller remote sites keep 
 their tapes onsite. Any ideas or suggestions?


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