Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 Aptare

2007-02-05 Thread Paul Keating
who? Symantec or Aptare?
 
 
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Spoke to support today. They just ADDED some more support
personnel. 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 Aptare

2007-02-05 Thread Karl . Rossing
aptare.




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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 Aptare

2007-02-02 Thread ckstehman
We have been using Aptare for about 5 years now and it has worked very 
well.  Their support is excellent.
I agree, that even with NOM, we will want to keep Aptare for historical 
purposes.

We use Aptare for our SOX reports.  Without it collecting that information 
would be very painful.


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On 2/1/2007 2:03 PM, Hindle, Greg wrote:
 Does anyone use netbackup 6.0 and the Aptare reporting software? 

Yup - works like a charm.  I have used Aptare's Storage Console software 
for several years and have absolutely no reason to migrate to a free 
NOM.  I don't see NOM being a full-fledged reporting packages - that's 
the *extremely* expensive Backup Reporter, but more of an operations 
manager which is, after all, it's title.  You'll have some operational 
control with NOM that you won't have with Storage Console (e.g. down and 
up tape drives) but you'll give up reporting functionality to get it. 
Nothing, of course, stops you from running both.  NOM is free so go 
ahead and try it out.  Don't forget that it does require a separate 
server though - don't even think about it installing it on your master 
server.

I've heard that NOM had a lot of bugs in its early releases, and it's 
only been out since 6.0.  With MP4, it's actually supposed to work. 
Storage Console has a long track record and I trust it to keep my 
history intact.

 .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 Aptare

2007-02-02 Thread Karl . Rossing
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[Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 Aptare

2007-02-01 Thread Hindle, Greg
nb 5.0 mp6 Solaris 9
 
 
Does anyone use netbackup 6.0 and the Aptare reporting software?  With
NOM being part of 6.0 is there still a need to have Aptare? 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 Aptare

2007-02-01 Thread Ambrose, Monte
Greg

I use Aptare and I also just installed and evaluated NOM V6MP4.  NOM is very 
similar to the old CCstor which we evaluated when we chose Aptare.  NOM has 
nowhere near the function of Aptare and I do not like the interface.  In 
addition Symantec just announced a new product that will be doing backup 
reporting (Backup Reporter). I think this means that the free NOM product is 
probably not going to receive much love and the new product that will cost you 
money and it will get the attention.  So NOM is not going to catch up to Aptare 
and I have little confidence in the Backup Reporter product either.

Backup Reporter already has a few things I don't like.  Primarily it normalizes 
messages from the backup products.  Instead of getting a NetBackup 150 or a TSM 
(whatever the code is) you will get a standard job was cancelled message, but 
you may not know it was specifically a 150.  Aptare does not normalize messages 
so if you are running NetBackup, TSM and Legato you will get the product 
specific information you need to do your job.

So Symantec is rolling out the next 6th remake of a backup reporting product in 
about as many years (Advanced Reporter, Storage Track, GDM, Command Central, 
NOM, Backup Reporter).  Did I miss anything?  I want to see a stable product 
for at least 2-3 years before I look at Symantec's backup reporting again.

Monte

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nb 5.0 mp6 Solaris 9


Does anyone use netbackup 6.0 and the Aptare reporting software?  With NOM 
being part of 6.0 is there still a need to have Aptare?

Greg

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 Aptare

2007-02-01 Thread Ed Wilts
On 2/1/2007 2:03 PM, Hindle, Greg wrote:
 Does anyone use netbackup 6.0 and the Aptare reporting software?  

Yup - works like a charm.  I have used Aptare's Storage Console software 
for several years and have absolutely no reason to migrate to a free 
NOM.  I don't see NOM being a full-fledged reporting packages - that's 
the *extremely* expensive Backup Reporter, but more of an operations 
manager which is, after all, it's title.  You'll have some operational 
control with NOM that you won't have with Storage Console (e.g. down and 
up tape drives) but you'll give up reporting functionality to get it. 
Nothing, of course, stops you from running both.  NOM is free so go 
ahead and try it out.  Don't forget that it does require a separate 
server though - don't even think about it installing it on your master 
server.

I've heard that NOM had a lot of bugs in its early releases, and it's 
only been out since 6.0.  With MP4, it's actually supposed to work. 
Storage Console has a long track record and I trust it to keep my 
history intact.

.../Ed

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