[Veritas-bu] Storage Unit - limiting concurrent jobs
make 2 robots :D I think you can go into storage units and create new . Call it something like POLARIS then make another new storage unit and you can call it VEGA you can also set the number of drives it will use. so set for example to 2 so it will never use the 3rd drive. then when you set up policies you can set each policy to only use a certain storage unit. I am a netbackup scrub, but I have something similar setup on my new remote enviornment. I have 4 policies set to backup to the drives and 1 will only write to disk. +-- |This was sent by kraid...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Storage Unit - limiting concurrent jobs
NBU 7.0 on AIX 6.1. My environment has 8 tape drives (SSO), 1 master server, 3 media servers, and two different applications to be backed up. I want the applications to use different tape drives (2 drives for app 1, and 6 drives for app 2). Is this possible? Currently I have defined 6 storage units, i.e. 2 on each media server.Each media server has 2 storage units, 1 with 2 drives and the other with 6 drives. If app1 is backing up using 2 drives and another policy starts for the same app, I want it to wait for the same 2 drives (or stream with them). I want to prohibit app1 from using the other 6 drives in case app 2 needs to run a backup. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Storage Unit
I am looking for a storage unit basically a NAS device that supports cifs, iscsi, and nfs. This device also must support FC. I need about 20TB. The plan is to backup archive data to this device. Data that hasn't been touched in 2-5yrs and then send the archive data to tape. Currently we are looking at the Overland Storage Snap Server 620. The only problem is it doesn't supports FC only LVD Scsi tape drives. Any suggestions or recommended products is appreciated. David Turner ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit
We normally buy Netapps but this time they are just too expensive. David Turner From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:35 AM To: David Turner Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit NetApp. You can do all that with a small 2020 or 2050 and they integrate well with NetBackup. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.orgmailto:ewi...@ewilts.org [http://www.images.wisestamp.com/linkedin.png]Linkedinhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:32 AM, David Turner dtur...@manh.commailto:dtur...@manh.com wrote: I am looking for a storage unit basically a NAS device that supports cifs, iscsi, and nfs. This device also must support FC. I need about 20TB. The plan is to backup archive data to this device. Data that hasn't been touched in 2-5yrs and then send the archive data to tape. Currently we are looking at the Overland Storage Snap Server 620. The only problem is it doesn't supports FC only LVD Scsi tape drives. Any suggestions or recommended products is appreciated. David Turner ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit
I was hoping Data Domain would be a fit but they have yet to present a reasonably priced system. David Turner From: Stefaan Margot [mailto:stefaan.mar...@stmsolutions.be] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:44 AM To: David Turner Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Have you considered a Data Domain box? Regards, Stefaan. Op 24/05/10 16:32, David Turner dtur...@manh.com schreef: I am looking for a storage unit basically a NAS device that supports cifs, iscsi, and nfs. This device also must support FC. I need about 20TB. The plan is to backup archive data to this device. Data that hasn't been touched in 2-5yrs and then send the archive data to tape. Currently we are looking at the Overland Storage Snap Server 620. The only problem is it doesn't supports FC only LVD Scsi tape drives. Any suggestions or recommended products is appreciated. David Turner ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:02 AM, David Turner dtur...@manh.com wrote: I was hoping Data Domain would be a fit but they have yet to present a reasonably priced system. This would only make sense if you have a high-enough de-dupe rate (at least 10x) - otherwise just buying disk makes more sense. You could go with something like a Windows or Linux server with locally attached disk. Not ideal, but it's archive data, right? .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit
ewi...@ewilts.org said: You could go with something like a Windows or Linux server with locally attached disk. Not ideal, but it's archive data, right? Or OpenSolaris running on an x86 server with locally attached JBOD, using ZFS for RAID and volume management. Snapshots and conventional compression are builtin to ZFS, and recent versions have deduplication (if you're careful to spec out enough RAM and SSD cache). The OpenSolaris builtin COMSTAR software provides iSCSI and FC targets hosted on ZFS-based storage. You can build this yourself, buy it from Oracle (this is their Unified Storage product), or check out Nexenta's distribution. Regards, Marion ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Rules for Wizard
Hello All, I'm trying to determine how the configuration wizard determines what names to give storage units. I found the one for disk drives but can't seem to find it for Storage units. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Patrick Whelan VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX. VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows. mailto:netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickjosephwhelan cid:image001.gif@01C99E80.E2717A60 attachment: image001.gif ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Rules for Wizard
I'm not sure where this information is kept for UNIX, but if you hit the Storage Configuration Wizard in Windows there is a Configure Drive Name Rules button for auto assigning drive storage unit names. I believe the default is vendor ID.product ID.index. -Jonathan From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:54 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Rules for Wizard Hello All, I'm trying to determine how the configuration wizard determines what names to give storage units. I found the one for disk drives but can't seem to find it for Storage units. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Patrick Whelan VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX. VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows. netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk mailto:netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickjosephwhelan attachment: image001.gif ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage unit groups are not understood - yes I'mpuzzeld
The schedules usually set to 10 MPX On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Tharp, Trey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the multiplexing # set to on the schedule? Also, Allow multiple data streams is checked on the policies, right? You can have an unlimited number of policies using a storage unit group as far as I know. We've got well over 100 policies using a storage unit group with 2-4 storage units in it and we run over 1000 active jobs to this storage units. There are many enablers and limits for multiplexing and multistreaming that all have to be turned on and turned up for it to work. The lowest denominator is on the schedule itself, so if a new stream starts, it will not join a mpx group that's got more jobs active than what it's set to. i.e. a schedule with an mpx setting of 4 will not join a storage unit with Max Drives = 1 and Max MPX = 10 that's got 5 streams running, even though the storage unit can take 5 more streams. -Trey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred fred Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:22 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Storage unit groups are not understood - yes I'mpuzzeld In the relms of the Top 20 (or so) misunderstood specifically #2. Storage unit groups are not understood. (version = 6.5.1) I'm still puzzled. If you have policies pointing to the same storage group with two policies running with the a couple of streams each. Then a third starts it ends up by queueing. The only difference being its not NT Windows but a Standard Unix policy. Rentetion time and media pool the same. Can only a limited number of Policies actually use the storage group at any one time, even if the retention time and tape pool the same? Does the same apply for storage units? If you have a stroage unit like below I would expect you could have two policies writng to it at the same time (with no queueing ) as long as there less than a total of 10 streams. Policies with media multiplexing of 10 and same retention and pool. Storage Unit: Multiplexing enabled Maximum concurrent write drives: 1 Maximum streams per drive: 10 I have set it to one as I don't what to multistream to more that two tapes drives in the storage unit group. Storage Unit Group (set to balance load ) has two storage units of the above i.e a max of 20 streams i.e it will do twice the work load of my example I'm assuming each stream is a job. In the manuals what is a job seems to change with context. Max client streams = 24 (for slow backups of small servers) Am I missing anything? Cheers Fred ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage unit groups are not understood - yesI'mpuzzeld
Is this definitely correct? I was under the impression that it would join the storage unit unless there were already 4 streams from that schedule already, i.e. that it would mpx higher than the schedule limit so long as it was with streams from other policies. I guess I should test this all out again, I have to admit that I did test it once until I understood it but it's got muddled in my mind again :-( i.e. a schedule with an mpx setting of 4 will not join a storage unit with Max Drives = 1 and Max MPX = 10 that's got 5 streams running, even though the storage unit can take 5 more streams. cheers, Phil Phil Weber MBCS CITP Storage Technical Services - Senior UNIX Technologist Business Technology Phone: 01384 26 4136 Egg Banking plc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tharp, Trey Sent: 29 April 2008 04:46 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage unit groups are not understood - yesI'mpuzzeld What's the multiplexing # set to on the schedule? Also, Allow multiple data streams is checked on the policies, right? You can have an unlimited number of policies using a storage unit group as far as I know. We've got well over 100 policies using a storage unit group with 2-4 storage units in it and we run over 1000 active jobs to this storage units. There are many enablers and limits for multiplexing and multistreaming that all have to be turned on and turned up for it to work. The lowest denominator is on the schedule itself, so if a new stream starts, it will not join a mpx group that's got more jobs active than what it's set to. i.e. a schedule with an mpx setting of 4 will not join a storage unit with Max Drives = 1 and Max MPX = 10 that's got 5 streams running, even though the storage unit can take 5 more streams. -Trey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred fred Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:22 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Storage unit groups are not understood - yes I'mpuzzeld In the relms of the Top 20 (or so) misunderstood specifically #2. Storage unit groups are not understood. (version = 6.5.1) I'm still puzzled. If you have policies pointing to the same storage group with two policies running with the a couple of streams each. Then a third starts it ends up by queueing. The only difference being its not NT Windows but a Standard Unix policy. Rentetion time and media pool the same. Can only a limited number of Policies actually use the storage group at any one time, even if the retention time and tape pool the same? Does the same apply for storage units? If you have a stroage unit like below I would expect you could have two policies writng to it at the same time (with no queueing ) as long as there less than a total of 10 streams. Policies with media multiplexing of 10 and same retention and pool. Storage Unit: Multiplexing enabled Maximum concurrent write drives: 1 Maximum streams per drive: 10 I have set it to one as I don't what to multistream to more that two tapes drives in the storage unit group. Storage Unit Group (set to balance load ) has two storage units of the above i.e a max of 20 streams i.e it will do twice the work load of my example I'm assuming each stream is a job. In the manuals what is a job seems to change with context. Max client streams = 24 (for slow backups of small servers) Am I missing anything? Cheers Fred ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - Egg is a trading name of the Egg group of companies which includes: Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd (reg no 3828289) and Egg Banking plc (reg no 2999842). Egg Banking plc and Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) and are entered in the FSA register under numbers 205621 and 309551 respectively. These members of the Egg group are registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Citigroup Centre, Canada Square, London E14 5LB. This e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete it from your mailbox. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Egg group of companies do not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage unit groups are not understood - yes I'mpuzzeld
What's the multiplexing # set to on the schedule? Also, Allow multiple data streams is checked on the policies, right? You can have an unlimited number of policies using a storage unit group as far as I know. We've got well over 100 policies using a storage unit group with 2-4 storage units in it and we run over 1000 active jobs to this storage units. There are many enablers and limits for multiplexing and multistreaming that all have to be turned on and turned up for it to work. The lowest denominator is on the schedule itself, so if a new stream starts, it will not join a mpx group that's got more jobs active than what it's set to. i.e. a schedule with an mpx setting of 4 will not join a storage unit with Max Drives = 1 and Max MPX = 10 that's got 5 streams running, even though the storage unit can take 5 more streams. -Trey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred fred Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:22 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Storage unit groups are not understood - yes I'mpuzzeld In the relms of the Top 20 (or so) misunderstood specifically #2. Storage unit groups are not understood. (version = 6.5.1) I'm still puzzled. If you have policies pointing to the same storage group with two policies running with the a couple of streams each. Then a third starts it ends up by queueing. The only difference being its not NT Windows but a Standard Unix policy. Rentetion time and media pool the same. Can only a limited number of Policies actually use the storage group at any one time, even if the retention time and tape pool the same? Does the same apply for storage units? If you have a stroage unit like below I would expect you could have two policies writng to it at the same time (with no queueing ) as long as there less than a total of 10 streams. Policies with media multiplexing of 10 and same retention and pool. Storage Unit: Multiplexing enabled Maximum concurrent write drives: 1 Maximum streams per drive: 10 I have set it to one as I don't what to multistream to more that two tapes drives in the storage unit group. Storage Unit Group (set to balance load ) has two storage units of the above i.e a max of 20 streams i.e it will do twice the work load of my example I'm assuming each stream is a job. In the manuals what is a job seems to change with context. Max client streams = 24 (for slow backups of small servers) Am I missing anything? Cheers Fred ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Recommendations
Is you backup speed limited by the drives, or by the speed of the clients and or network? I don't know what drives you have, but using a very simplistic view, your backup of 14TB in 2 1/2 days only averages out to 68MB/sec, or 17 MB/sec spread evenly over 4 drives. Obviously it won't be spread evenly either in time or drives, but we can do a similar sized full backup in a similar time using one LTO-3 drive. The killer is the incrementals. Data transfer rate for the incrementals are really quite poor, down to about 2MB/sec for some clients, in contrast to to the fulls where they are limited by their 100Mb network connection. best [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting it done right now, about 14 TB starting friday at 6 pm till Monday at 6:00 am but it is tight. We only have a few Oracle RMAN backups right now but we are getting ready to move about 4 TB of Oracle from being a cold file level backup to RMAN. Brian Hesseling Storage Administrator American Modern Insurance Group 7000 Midland Blvd. Amelia, OH 45103 PH: 513.947.6821 FX:513.388.5117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] net To 08/21/2007 01:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED], PMveritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Recommendations You are about 12 tape drives short for backing up that number of clients with SQL and Oracle and 250 clients. If your datamover can back up straight to tape, you are much better off attaching it direct and getting the NDMP agent. You will be in a constant fight to get your backups done. Bobby. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for recommendations are configuring storage units. Right now the setup is: Master server is directly fiber attached to the library as the robotic control, and directly fiber attached to 2 drives in the library. Media server is directly fiber attached to the other 2 drives in the library. My storage units are one for the master with two drives in it and one for the media with the other two drives. All of my policies are defined for their storage units as Any Available. I am looking to improve the performance of my backups, I have 250 clients, with some SQL, Oracle, and NDMP agents sprinkled in. Should I break these up in to individual storage units for each drive and the n recombine them into storage groups of one 4 unit group, two 2 unit groups, and four 1 unit groups. Then assign the groups directly to the policies? Does that gain me anything? If I want to begin using disk staging do I need to change all of the policies from any available to either the disk storage unit or a tape unit? Brian H. - CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: This e-mail transmission contains information that is intended to be confidential. It is intended only for the addressee named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy, or disseminate it. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Chris Freemantle Data Manager Wellcome Trust Centre for Neuroimaging +44 (0)207 833 7496 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Recommendations
We had a very similar situation where we have backups running for 3 days. We were getting very good thru put but just the volume of data getting backed up was killing us. We had Mutliplexing enable which helped but still running for days. We just implemented Multisteaming on our bigger servers, assuming you have the data carved up by drive letters, mutlisteaming works GREAT, what NBU will do is takes each drive letter and creates separate jobs so C: / D: / E: etc all get backed up simultaneously. It took our 3 day backup down to only 21 hours. Now if you are looking into Disk Staging, then you will need to assign your policies to the disk storage group. Then subsequently use the Staging Schedule under that storage unit to send the disk staged data to tape. You will want to ensure you have enough disk storage to handle the task. Once the data is sent to tape, NBU will assign each image with a ds prefix. This way NBU knows that the data was sent to tape and in the event your disk becomes full or hits your high water mark, NBU will remove the oldest .ds file first. The .ds is also used when your job retention period has come and gone. NBU will go in a delete the .ds files when they expire. Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: Chris Freemantle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Recommendations Is you backup speed limited by the drives, or by the speed of the clients and or network? I don't know what drives you have, but using a very simplistic view, your backup of 14TB in 2 1/2 days only averages out to 68MB/sec, or 17 MB/sec spread evenly over 4 drives. Obviously it won't be spread evenly either in time or drives, but we can do a similar sized full backup in a similar time using one LTO-3 drive. The killer is the incrementals. Data transfer rate for the incrementals are really quite poor, down to about 2MB/sec for some clients, in contrast to to the fulls where they are limited by their 100Mb network connection. best [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting it done right now, about 14 TB starting friday at 6 pm till Monday at 6:00 am but it is tight. We only have a few Oracle RMAN backups right now but we are getting ready to move about 4 TB of Oracle from being a cold file level backup to RMAN. Brian Hesseling Storage Administrator American Modern Insurance Group 7000 Midland Blvd. Amelia, OH 45103 PH: 513.947.6821 FX:513.388.5117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] net To 08/21/2007 01:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED], PM veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Recommendations You are about 12 tape drives short for backing up that number of clients with SQL and Oracle and 250 clients. If your datamover can back up straight to tape, you are much better off attaching it direct and getting the NDMP agent. You will be in a constant fight to get your backups done. Bobby. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for recommendations are configuring storage units. Right now the setup is: Master server is directly fiber attached to the library as the robotic control, and directly fiber attached to 2 drives in the library. Media server is directly fiber attached to the other 2 drives in the library. My storage units are one for the master with two drives in it and one for the media with the other two drives. All of my policies are defined for their storage units as Any Available. I am looking to improve the performance of my backups, I have 250 clients, with some SQL, Oracle, and NDMP agents sprinkled in. Should I break these up in to individual storage units for each drive and the n recombine them into storage groups of one 4 unit group, two 2 unit groups, and four 1 unit groups. Then assign the groups directly to the policies? Does that gain me anything? If I want to begin using disk staging do I need to change all of the policies from any available to either the disk storage unit or a tape unit? Brian H. - CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: This e-mail transmission contains information that is intended to be confidential. It is intended only for the addressee named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy, or disseminate it. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Recommendations
You are about 12 tape drives short for backing up that number of clients with SQL and Oracle and 250 clients. If your datamover can back up straight to tape, you are much better off attaching it direct and getting the NDMP agent. You will be in a constant fight to get your backups done. Bobby. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for recommendations are configuring storage units. Right now the setup is: Master server is directly fiber attached to the library as the robotic control, and directly fiber attached to 2 drives in the library. Media server is directly fiber attached to the other 2 drives in the library. My storage units are one for the master with two drives in it and one for the media with the other two drives. All of my policies are defined for their storage units as Any Available. I am looking to improve the performance of my backups, I have 250 clients, with some SQL, Oracle, and NDMP agents sprinkled in. Should I break these up in to individual storage units for each drive and then recombine them into storage groups of one 4 unit group, two 2 unit groups, and four 1 unit groups. Then assign the groups directly to the policies? Does that gain me anything? If I want to begin using disk staging do I need to change all of the policies from any available to either the disk storage unit or a tape unit? Brian H. - CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: This e-mail transmission contains information that is intended to be confidential. It is intended only for the addressee named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy, or disseminate it. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Recommendations
I'm getting it done right now, about 14 TB starting friday at 6 pm till Monday at 6:00 am but it is tight. We only have a few Oracle RMAN backups right now but we are getting ready to move about 4 TB of Oracle from being a cold file level backup to RMAN. Brian Hesseling Storage Administrator American Modern Insurance Group 7000 Midland Blvd. Amelia, OH 45103 PH: 513.947.6821 FX:513.388.5117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] net To 08/21/2007 01:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED], PMveritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Recommendations You are about 12 tape drives short for backing up that number of clients with SQL and Oracle and 250 clients. If your datamover can back up straight to tape, you are much better off attaching it direct and getting the NDMP agent. You will be in a constant fight to get your backups done. Bobby. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for recommendations are configuring storage units. Right now the setup is: Master server is directly fiber attached to the library as the robotic control, and directly fiber attached to 2 drives in the library. Media server is directly fiber attached to the other 2 drives in the library. My storage units are one for the master with two drives in it and one for the media with the other two drives. All of my policies are defined for their storage units as Any Available. I am looking to improve the performance of my backups, I have 250 clients, with some SQL, Oracle, and NDMP agents sprinkled in. Should I break these up in to individual storage units for each drive and the n recombine them into storage groups of one 4 unit group, two 2 unit groups, and four 1 unit groups. Then assign the groups directly to the policies? Does that gain me anything? If I want to begin using disk staging do I need to change all of the policies from any available to either the disk storage unit or a tape unit? Brian H. - CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: This e-mail transmission contains information that is intended to be confidential. It is intended only for the addressee named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy, or disseminate it. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Recommendations
I am looking for recommendations are configuring storage units. Right now the setup is: Master server is directly fiber attached to the library as the robotic control, and directly fiber attached to 2 drives in the library. Media server is directly fiber attached to the other 2 drives in the library. My storage units are one for the master with two drives in it and one for the media with the other two drives. All of my policies are defined for their storage units as Any Available. I am looking to improve the performance of my backups, I have 250 clients, with some SQL, Oracle, and NDMP agents sprinkled in. Should I break these up in to individual storage units for each drive and then recombine them into storage groups of one 4 unit group, two 2 unit groups, and four 1 unit groups. Then assign the groups directly to the policies? Does that gain me anything? If I want to begin using disk staging do I need to change all of the policies from any available to either the disk storage unit or a tape unit? Brian H. - CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: This e-mail transmission contains information that is intended to be confidential. It is intended only for the addressee named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy, or disseminate it. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Strangeness
Have a support call open, but find you guys to have seen more than they have sometimes ;) Solaris 9 NBU 5.1 MP4 Media server NBU 5.1 MP6 Master The storage unit for media server (the only one for that media server) is configured to use 3 drives, however the media server has 6 drives in use... Label: HOST_STU Media Type:Media Manager (2) Host Connection: HOST Number of Drives: 3 On Demand Only:no Density: hcart2 (14) Robot Type/Number: ACS (1) / 0 Max Fragment Size: 2048 Max MPX/drive: 8 isdsnh027 (root):/usr/openv/pack# vmoprcmd PENDING REQUESTS NONE DRIVE STATUS Drv Type Control User Label RecMID ExtMID Ready Wr.Enbl. ReqId 0 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L94844 L94844 Yes Yes 2 1 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L92802 L92802 Yes Yes 1 2 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L01203 L01203 Yes Yes 5 3 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L96625 L96625 Yes Yes 4 4 hcart2 ACS- No - - 5 hcart2 ACS Yes L00222 L00222 Yes Yes - 6 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L95981 L95981 Yes Yes 3 7 hcart2 ACS -No - - 8 hcart2 ACSroot Yes H05037 H05037 Yes Yes 1 9 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L94986 L94986 Yes Yes 2 10 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L95971 L95971 Yes Yes 0 11 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L95991 L95991 Yes Yes 3 ADDITIONAL DRIVE STATUS Drv DriveNameSharedAssignedComment 0 HFD_STK3_0_10_06 Yes HOST 1 HFD_STK3_0_10_08 Yes HOST 2 HFD_STK3_0_10_10 Yes HOST 3 HFD_STK3_0_10_11 Yes HOST 4 HFD_STK3_0_10_12 Yes - 5 HFD_STK3_0_10_13 Yes - 6 HFD_STK3_0_10_14 Yes HOST 7 HFD_STK3_0_10_16 Yes - 8 HFD_STK3_0_10_17 Yes other 9 HFD_STK3_0_10_18 Yes other 10 HFD_STK3_0_10_07 Yes HOST 11 HFD_STK3_0_10_09 Yes other And no commentary on the MPX or Fragment size, I'm slowly digging them out of their backward ways... Anyone seen this??? Kate Greenberg Enterprise Backup Infrastructure Solutions Department 860.547.8155 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. * ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Strangeness
ACS/LS will use whatever it wants. Are all 6 really active? Is there another application using those drives somewhere? ACS/LS may have just left those in the drives...eh, its been a long time since I rock and rolled with acs What's with the fragment size and the mpx value? :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greenberg, Katherine (ISD, IT) Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:41 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Strangeness Have a support call open, but find you guys to have seen more than they have sometimes ;) Solaris 9 NBU 5.1 MP4 Media server NBU 5.1 MP6 Master The storage unit for media server (the only one for that media server) is configured to use 3 drives, however the media server has 6 drives in use... Label: HOST_STU Media Type:Media Manager (2) Host Connection: HOST Number of Drives: 3 On Demand Only:no Density: hcart2 (14) Robot Type/Number: ACS (1) / 0 Max Fragment Size: 2048 Max MPX/drive: 8 isdsnh027 (root):/usr/openv/pack# vmoprcmd PENDING REQUESTS NONE DRIVE STATUS Drv Type Control User Label RecMID ExtMID Ready Wr.Enbl. ReqId 0 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L94844 L94844 Yes Yes 2 1 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L92802 L92802 Yes Yes 1 2 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L01203 L01203 Yes Yes 5 3 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L96625 L96625 Yes Yes 4 4 hcart2 ACS- No - - 5 hcart2 ACS Yes L00222 L00222 Yes Yes - 6 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L95981 L95981 Yes Yes 3 7 hcart2 ACS -No - - 8 hcart2 ACSroot Yes H05037 H05037 Yes Yes 1 9 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L94986 L94986 Yes Yes 2 10 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L95971 L95971 Yes Yes 0 11 hcart2 ACSroot Yes L95991 L95991 Yes Yes 3 ADDITIONAL DRIVE STATUS Drv DriveNameSharedAssignedComment 0 HFD_STK3_0_10_06 Yes HOST 1 HFD_STK3_0_10_08 Yes HOST 2 HFD_STK3_0_10_10 Yes HOST 3 HFD_STK3_0_10_11 Yes HOST 4 HFD_STK3_0_10_12 Yes - 5 HFD_STK3_0_10_13 Yes - 6 HFD_STK3_0_10_14 Yes HOST 7 HFD_STK3_0_10_16 Yes - 8 HFD_STK3_0_10_17 Yes other 9 HFD_STK3_0_10_18 Yes other 10 HFD_STK3_0_10_07 Yes HOST 11 HFD_STK3_0_10_09 Yes other And no commentary on the MPX or Fragment size, I'm slowly digging them out of their backward ways... Anyone seen this??? Kate Greenberg Enterprise Backup Infrastructure Solutions Department 860.547.8155 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. * The information contained in this transmission is confidential. It is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) or organization(s) to whom it is addressed. Any disclosure, copying, or further distribution is not permitted unless such privilege is explicitly granted in writing by Quantum Corporation. Furthermore, Quantum Corporation is not responsible for the proper and complete transmission of the substance of this communication or for any delay in its receipt. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Strangeness
We had this same problem where there were more drives used than was stated in the storage_unit parameters for backups. We have NetBackup 5.1 MP4 on a Sun box with Solaris 10. We have two storage_units. One for backups on newer tape drives and another storage_unit for old technology drives to use for restores of older backups. After opening a case with Symantec it was determined that we needed to do the following; Create a line in /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config/behavior/ called MAX_DRIVES_THIS_MASTER 12. 12 being the total number o tape drives that will be used for backups. You will need to determine this number for your Master. We do this so there is a least one drive available for restores. You will then need to stop and restart NetBackup. From the case; The calculation of active jobs and concurrent jobs is based on: Definitions. Active jobs is the sum of mpxgrps (multiplex groups) and a multiplex group is equivalent to a tape drive. Concurrent jobs is derived as a minimum of either the available drives in the robot or the maximum concurrent jobs for all storage units in a robot. For this problem: max concurrent jobs is 32 x 12 = 384, mpx per drive is set to 32 and 12 drives in the storage unit. To solve or try to solve the problem comes down to utilizing the parameter: mdtm MAX DRIVES THIS MASTER. Bpsched algorithm will check for a hard limit, mdtm and stop allocating drives at that point. Any drives that are not allocated due to the hard limit , remain available for restore work Hope this helps. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage unit number of drives
You can set the Maximum Concurrent drives used for backup in the storage unit, but that doesn't give you any control over WHICH drives are used, which sounds like what you want. I think you could use tpconfig to manually set which drives (that the OS can see) are available to NetBackup, but I'm not sure you could then create a 2nd storage unit to use the other drives. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: 24 November 2006 11:12 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Storage unit number of drives Guys is there anyway to create a storage unit and use only a certain number of drives? Im Netbackup 5.0mp4 on sol9. I have 5 drives available in a L700 3 of which are Shared SSO. I want to create a storage unit of 3 drives ( 1 shared and 2 not ) so that a network based job doesnt tie up 2 of the shared drives and cause my media servers using SSO to fail. Im running ITC so need 2 drives at a time. Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - Egg is a trading name of the Egg group of companies which includes: Egg plc (reg no 2448340), Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd (reg no 3828289), and Egg Banking plc (reg no 2999842). Egg Banking plc and Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) and are entered in the FSA register under numbers 205621 and 309551 respectively. These members of the Egg group are registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Laurence Pountney Hill, London EC4R 0HH. This e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete it from your mailbox. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Egg group of companies do not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by the Egg group of companies in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. This communication does not create or modify any contract. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Storage unit number of drives
Guys is there anyway to create a storage unit and use only a certain number of drives? Im Netbackup 5.0mp4 on sol9. I have 5 drives available in a L700 3 of which are Shared SSO. I want to create a storage unit of 3 drives ( 1 shared and 2 not ) so that a network based job doesnt tie up 2 of the shared drives and cause my media servers using SSO to fail. Im running ITC so need 2 drives at a time. Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Storage Unit Transition Schedule
Hi, Am having a problem creating a storage Unit on NBU 6.0 MP3 ( W2K3) . Want to create the full weeklies to disk staging then to tape. When I create a storage group on disk it' s fine but if I try to make it a staging areas and add a staging schedule when I go to save the definition I get Storage unit storage-unit-name could not be added, status 11, system call failed Anyone come across this before? Any ideas TIA Gary This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
