Re: [Veritas-bu] Very slow client

2007-08-17 Thread Paul Keating
any client set to auto detect is only very slow if there is a
misconfiguration in the chain.
 
auto neg has worked flawlessly for years assuming both sides are
configured to auto.
The documented (IEEE 802.3??) behaviour if one side is auto and the
other side hardcoded is for the auto neg configured side to go to
100Mb/s Half Duplex. (lowest common denominator.)
Since the hardcoded side is usually set to FULL, you end up with a
duplex mismatch which kills performance.
 
If you've still got old Sun HME cards ardoun, there is some auto-meg
issues with those, in combination with some older Cisco versions, but
for the most part, Auto is where it's at.
Auto is actually a requirement for proper flow control in GigE.
 
Paul
 
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did you check network settings on the NIC? Is it set to 100/Full
(or whatever your network standard is)? I find any Windows clients set
to auto detect run very slow. 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Very slow client

2007-08-17 Thread Clem Kruger
Hi All, 

 

This debate will continue to go on forever. I have found that hard coding works 
extremely well when set. In many cases setting to auto and auto still gave 
issues.

 

As far as 1GB copper is concerned, the IEEE standard should be followed to the 
nth degree. Use a minimum of CAT 5E or definitely CAT6 cable and don't go 
beyond 90 metres.

 

Going outside of these specifications will cause you issue, a very expensive 
experience as on of my clients found? They had to switch all NICS and switch 
ports to 100 full duplex for DataProtector and NetBackup as their network was 
designed to CAT5.

 

Rather change to 1GB fibre which will always work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kind Regards,

Clem Kruger

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Very slow client

 

any client set to auto detect is only very slow if there is a misconfiguration 
in the chain.

 

auto neg has worked flawlessly for years assuming both sides are configured to 
auto.

The documented (IEEE 802.3??) behaviour if one side is auto and the other side 
hardcoded is for the auto neg configured side to go to 100Mb/s Half Duplex. 
(lowest common denominator.)

Since the hardcoded side is usually set to FULL, you end up with a duplex 
mismatch which kills performance.

 

If you've still got old Sun HME cards ardoun, there is some auto-meg issues 
with those, in combination with some older Cisco versions, but for the most 
part, Auto is where it's at.

Auto is actually a requirement for proper flow control in GigE.

 

Paul

 

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did you check network settings on the NIC? Is it set to 100/Full (or 
whatever your network standard is)? I find any Windows clients set to auto 
detect run very slow. 


 
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[Veritas-bu] Very slow client

2007-08-15 Thread Deiter, Scott
We are running 5.1 mp4 across the board with a solaris 9 master media a
few other media servers and numerous solaris and windows clients.
 
on the master/media we just added a windows 2003 client only for system
state backups.
we cancelled these attempts because of performance.  Less than 10K/sec
Yes I mean Kilobytes.
So we tried this in a test policy to backup the c drive.   Same result.
 
ftp is moving at 2-3 meg/sec
bpgetconfig and bpclntcmd all look and feel normal.
 
The client softwhere was removed and reinstalled.  open file backup
disabled  tracker disabled.
 
Where else do I look for the bottleneck?
 
 
 
 
 

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc.
Hanover, PA
Voice: 717-633-3298
Fax: 717-633-3101 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Very slow client

2007-08-15 Thread Kennedy, Cameron
did you check network settings on the NIC? Is it set to 100/Full (or
whatever your network standard is)? I find any Windows clients set to
auto detect run very slow. 
 



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We are running 5.1 mp4 across the board with a solaris 9 master media a
few other media servers and numerous solaris and windows clients.
 
on the master/media we just added a windows 2003 client only for system
state backups.
we cancelled these attempts because of performance.  Less than 10K/sec
Yes I mean Kilobytes.
So we tried this in a test policy to backup the c drive.   Same result.
 
ftp is moving at 2-3 meg/sec
bpgetconfig and bpclntcmd all look and feel normal.
 
The client softwhere was removed and reinstalled.  open file backup
disabled  tracker disabled.
 
Where else do I look for the bottleneck?
 
 
 
 
 

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc.
Hanover, PA
Voice: 717-633-3298
Fax: 717-633-3101 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Very slow client

2007-08-15 Thread Rockey Reed
Scott,

 

The 2003 server should be protecting the shadow copy components not the
system state which is for Windows 2000.  As for the other performance my
first suggestion is to check the NIC setting.  If GigE then auto
negotiate is acceptable; however, if 100Mbps Ethernet is used force the
NIC to 100 FULL duplex.  The C:\ drive, especially the Windows directory
will always be a pain from a speed and feed perspective, but not to the
limits you're seeing.  Lastly, set the virus scan to scan inbound only,
using the outbound on a backup is a performance hit no one wants to
experience.

Thanks, 
Rockey J. Reed 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Very slow client

 

We are running 5.1 mp4 across the board with a solaris 9 master media a
few other media servers and numerous solaris and windows clients.

 

on the master/media we just added a windows 2003 client only for system
state backups.

we cancelled these attempts because of performance.  Less than 10K/sec
Yes I mean Kilobytes.

So we tried this in a test policy to backup the c drive.   Same result.

 

ftp is moving at 2-3 meg/sec

bpgetconfig and bpclntcmd all look and feel normal.

 

The client softwhere was removed and reinstalled.  open file backup
disabled  tracker disabled.

 

Where else do I look for the bottleneck?

 

 

 

 

 

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc.
Hanover, PA
Voice: 717-633-3298
Fax: 717-633-3101 

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