Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist included.

2006-06-13 Thread Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO



If you are using 
Netbackup 6.0 you can not have your start window cross midnight. I was 
told that it is bad practice. I think Netbackup has gone 
goofy.

-Jonathan Marks (970)295-5362



From: Bob Stump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 
June 12, 2006 4:02 PMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong 
with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist included.

I have years of experience with frequency based scheduling but I have 
always shied away from calendar based. Today I made my first attempt and I 
cannot see where I made a mistake. Please review this and help me if you can. 
Thanks.


Here is the problemThe calendar based backup started on the first day 
that I made this policy active even though it is not suppose to be active until 
the last Monday of the month.

Here is the strategy1. full backup every monday night excluding last 
monday of the month with 1 month retention allow tuesday full 
for any failures that may occur on monday3. last monday of each month run a 
calendar full backup with 3 month retention retries allowed 
after runday which would be tuesday night.2. incremental backup every night 
except monday nights with 1 month retention

Here is the bppllist:Policy Name: 
groupwise01-09

 Policy Type: 
Standard 
Active: 
yes Effective date: 06/12/2006 
08:00:00 Client Compress: no Follow 
NFS Mounts: no Cross Mount Points: no 
Collect TIR info: no Block Incremental: 
no Mult. Data Streams: yes Client 
Encrypt: no 
Checkpoint: no 
Policy Priority: 25 Max 
Jobs/Policy: Unlimited Disaster 
Recovery: 0 
Residence: 
dssu_grp Volume Pool: 
Novell 
Keyword: 
(none specified)

 HW/OS/Client: Novell 
NetWare 
gw01 
Novell 
NetWare 
gw02 
Novell 
NetWare 
gw03 
Novell 
NetWare 
gw04 
Novell 
NetWare 
gw05 
Novell 
NetWare 
gw06 
Novell 
NetWare 
gw07 
Novell 
NetWare 
gw08 
Novell 
NetWare gw09

 Include: /FS

 Schedule: 
17.30_mon_calendar 
Type: Full 
Backup Maximum MPX: 
10 Synthetic: 
0 PFI Recovery: 0 
Retention Level: 5 (3 months) Number Copies: 
1 Fail on Error: 0 
Residence: dssu04 
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume 
pool) Calendar sched: 
Enabled Allowed to retry after run 
day SPECIFIC DATE 0 - 
06/26/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 1 - 
07/31/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 2 - 
08/28/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 3 - 
09/25/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 4 - 
10/30/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 5 - 
11/27/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 6 - 
12/25/2006 Monday, Week 
5 Daily 
Windows: 
Monday 18:30:00 -- 
Tuesday 
04:00:00 
Tuesday 17:30:00 -- Wednesday 
04:00:00

 Schedule: 
17.30_mon_full 
Type: Full 
Backup Frequency: 
every 5 days Maximum MPX: 
10 Synthetic: 
0 PFI Recovery: 0 
Retention Level: 3 (1 month) Number Copies: 
1 Fail on Error: 0 
Residence: dssu04 
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume 
pool) EXCLUDE DATE 0 - 
06/26/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 1 - 
07/31/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 2 - 
08/28/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 3 - 
09/25/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 4 - 
10/30/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 5 - 
11/27/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 6 - 
12/25/2006 Daily 
Windows: 
Monday 17:20:00 -- 
Tuesday 
04:00:00 
Tuesday 17:30:00 -- Wednesday 
04:00:00

 Schedule: 
17.30_mon_inc 
Type: 
Differential Incremental Backup 
Frequency: every 12 
hours Maximum MPX: 
10 Synthetic: 
0 PFI Recovery: 0 
Retention Level: 3 (1 month) Number Copies: 
1 Fail on Error: 0 
Residence: (specific storage unit not 
required) Volume Pool: (same as 
policy volume pool) Daily 
Windows: 
Sunday 17:30:00 -- 
Monday 
04:00:00 
Tuesday 17:30:00 -- Wednesday 
04:00:00 
Wednesday 17:30:00 -- Thursday 
04:00:00 
Thursday 17:30:00 -- Friday 
04:00:00 
Friday 17:30:00 -- Saturday 
04:00:00 
Saturday 17:30:00 -- Sunday 
04:00:00
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Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist included.

2006-06-13 Thread Steve
What version of NBU ... the early Calendar based jobs (4.5ish) had some bugs with the logic.
As far as having Calendar based schedules crossing midnight you should not do that. I don't think its goofy, it just defats the purpose of Calendar based Schedules. You told NBU that you want it to run on a certain day, well after Midnight it is no longer that day.

Also you should read up on the setting allow Retry after Run day 
Its hard to say exactly what happened without more detail but it maybe that the backup that kicked off right away was from the Freq based Schedule: 17.30_mon_full or 17.30_mon_inc since they are open each day.
Hope that helpsSteve
On 6/13/06, Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



If you are using Netbackup 6.0 you can not have your start window cross midnight. I was told that it is bad practice. I think Netbackup has gone goofy.

-Jonathan Marks (970)295-5362



From: Bob Stump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:02 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup 
schedule.bppllist included.



I have years of experience with frequency based scheduling but I have always shied away from calendar based. Today I made my first attempt and I cannot see where I made a mistake. Please review this and help me if you can. Thanks.



Here is the problemThe calendar based backup started on the first day that I made this policy active even though it is not suppose to be active until the last Monday of the month.

Here is the strategy1. full backup every monday night excluding last monday of the month with 1 month retention allow tuesday full for any failures that may occur on monday3. last monday of each month run a calendar full backup with 3 month retention
 retries allowed after runday which would be tuesday night.2. incremental backup every night except monday nights with 1 month retention

Here is the bppllist:Policy Name: groupwise01-09

 Policy Type: Standard Active: yes Effective date: 06/12/2006 08:00:00 Client Compress: no Follow NFS Mounts: no Cross Mount Points: no Collect TIR info: no
 Block Incremental: no Mult. Data Streams: yes Client Encrypt: no Checkpoint: no Policy Priority: 25 Max Jobs/Policy: Unlimited Disaster Recovery: 0 Residence: dssu_grp
 Volume Pool: Novell Keyword: (none specified)

 HW/OS/Client: Novell NetWare gw01 Novell NetWare gw02 Novell NetWare gw03 Novell NetWare gw04 Novell NetWare gw05
 Novell NetWare gw06 Novell NetWare gw07 Novell NetWare gw08 Novell NetWare gw09

 Include: /FS

 Schedule: 17.30_mon_calendar Type: Full Backup Maximum MPX: 10 Synthetic: 0 PFI Recovery: 0 Retention Level: 5 (3 months) Number Copies: 1
 Fail on Error: 0 Residence: dssu04 Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool) Calendar sched: Enabled Allowed to retry after run day SPECIFIC DATE 0 - 06/26/2006
 SPECIFIC DATE 1 - 07/31/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 2 - 08/28/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 3 - 09/25/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 4 - 10/30/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 5 - 11/27/2006 SPECIFIC DATE 6 - 12/25/2006
 Monday, Week 5 Daily Windows: Monday 18:30:00 -- Tuesday 04:00:00 Tuesday 17:30:00 -- Wednesday 04:00:00

 Schedule: 17.30_mon_full Type: Full Backup Frequency: every 5 days Maximum MPX: 10 Synthetic: 0 PFI Recovery: 0 Retention Level: 3 (1 month)
 Number Copies: 1 Fail on Error: 0 Residence: dssu04 Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool) EXCLUDE DATE 0 - 06/26/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 1 - 07/31/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 2 - 08/28/2006
 EXCLUDE DATE 3 - 09/25/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 4 - 10/30/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 5 - 11/27/2006 EXCLUDE DATE 6 - 12/25/2006 Daily Windows: Monday 17:20:00 -- Tuesday 04:00:00
 Tuesday 17:30:00 -- Wednesday 04:00:00

 Schedule: 17.30_mon_inc Type: Differential Incremental Backup Frequency: every 12 hours Maximum MPX: 10 Synthetic: 0 PFI Recovery: 0 Retention Level: 3 (1 month)
 Number Copies: 1 Fail on Error: 0 Residence: (specific storage unit not required) Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool) Daily Windows: Sunday 17:30:00 -- Monday 04:00:00
 Tuesday 17:30:00 -- Wednesday 04:00:00 Wednesday 17:30:00 -- Thursday 04:00:00 Thursday 17:30:00 -- Friday 04:00:00 Friday 17:30:00 -- Saturday 04:00:00
 Saturday 17:30:00 -- Sunday 04:00:00
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Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist included.

2006-06-13 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



retry after runday means "anytime after" the 
defined runday...not just the next day.

so when you createa new policy, or add 
a client to an existing policy, the first time tha backup runs, it hits all 
schedules to see which takes precidence.if your monthly/quarterly exists, 
then it is probably the highest priority, unless you've got a yearly, so it tries to run..you 
wouldn't expect it to, since you configured it for the last of the month, but 
since "allow tries after run day" is selected, it assumes today is after run 
day, since there is no existsing image for this schedule in the last 
month/quarter, or whatever.

I think this is "by design", rather than a 
bug.

Paul

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  wrong with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist 
  included.
  Hi Bob
  
  We had a similar 
  problem with our quarterly backup. It should only run 4 times a year but tried 
  to run instead of the weekly backup for any new servers added toa 
  policy. Removing 'Allowed to retry after run day' seemed to cure the 
  problem.
  
  Regards
  
  Richard
  


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    wrong with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist 
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I have years of experience with frequency based scheduling but I have 
always shied away from calendar based. Today I made my first attempt and I 
cannot see where I made a mistake. Please review this and help me if you 
can. Thanks.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist included.

2006-06-12 Thread Mansell, Richard



Hi Bob

We had a similar problem 
with our quarterly backup. It should only run 4 times a year but tried to run 
instead of the weekly backup for any new servers added toa policy. 
Removing 'Allowed to retry after run day' seemed to cure the 
problem.

Regards

Richard

  
  
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  StumpSent: Tuesday, 13 June 2006 10:02 amTo: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong 
  with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist included.
  
  I have years of experience with frequency based scheduling but I have 
  always shied away from calendar based. Today I made my first attempt and I 
  cannot see where I made a mistake. Please review this and help me if you can. 
  Thanks.
  
  
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