Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing
That's what I think I will do. I recycled netbackup on the master server, I was able to run bpexpdate on the tapes I needed to, and do a quick erase. I'm thinking there is a problem with the EMM database getting stuck, for lack of a better term. If that is the case, it really doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy about this product. I don't know what everyone else is expereincing with Netbackup 6.0, but on top of bpexpdate not working properly all the time, I have known good tapes that will spit out error 86 errors. The tapes and the jukeboxes are less than a year old. Both were used previosly with legato, and all the tapes were labeled before being introduced to the Netbackup environment. I was told by a Veritas consultant that labeling the old legato tapes in Netbackup would be just fine. No one wants to tell he customer that they need to buy 2,000 SDLTII tapes after they did so about 10 months ago. Some tapes will backup data for a while, then give me a Cannot locate on Drive index 0, media position error (86). It's not the same tapes or jukeboxes everytime. It seems that it occurs randomly, without a pattern through out our Netbackup domain. Of course the drives will go down, and I get riddled with 800 errors. Netbackup seems fine, when it works. But I've got to watch it all the time. A robust, enterprise product should not need such a high level of user interaction to keep it running. I am hoping that MP4 fixes a lot of these problems. -- Mike Sponsler Northrop Grumman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (703) 968-1302 12900 Federal Systems Pkwy Fairfax, VA 22033 -Original Message- From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:23 PM To: Justin Piszcz Cc: Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing On 11/13/2006 12:00 PM, Justin Piszcz wrote: I'd recommend MP3, I personally have several environments running MP4 beta actually, if you are running 6.x anything make sure you are the LATEST patch rev you can be at, especially before you call support. The latest generally-available release is MP3 and you don't want to run that in a large complex environment. MP3 with some Engineering patches is tolerable (and you can't get these without calling support), but I would recommend waiting until MP4, due real soon now. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing
Title: Message Michael What about if you use the HOST command ie: bpexpdate -m MediaID -d 0 -h Servername Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Sponsler, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2006 17:14To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing Netbackup 6 MP2, solaris 8 media server, solaris 10 master server. Quantum Superloader, SDLT600. Each media server has a Superloader connected locally via SCSI. I'm trying to deassign tapes so I can erase/label them for re-use. When trying to run the bpexpdate command (on the media server), it will ask me if I'm sure I want to delete the tape, I answer 'y' for yes, and it will sit there for hours. I'll have to do a control-C to kill the command, and the tape will still be assigned. I get no error, haven't seen anything in /var/adm/messages on the media or master server. I haven't seen anything distinguishable in the netbackup logs. Has anyone had any problems like this before? Anyone have any suggestions? -- Mike Sponsler Northrop Grumman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (703) 968-1302 12900 Federal Systems Pkwy Fairfax, VA 22033 This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing
This is a large environment, 50+ media servers. I've been hesitant to move to MP3. Have you had any significant problems with MP3? Or how about MP4 beta? How did you get ahold of that? -- Mike -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:01 PM To: Sponsler, Michael Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing I'd recommend MP3, I personally have several environments running MP4 beta actually, if you are running 6.x anything make sure you are the LATEST patch rev you can be at, especially before you call support. Justin. On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Sponsler, Michael wrote: I did try that on the master server ./bpexpdate -m XXX -d 0 -host Mediaserver -force I don't get the Are you SURE you want to delete y/n (n)? when I try it from the master server. It just sits there... I have a call logged in veritas right now. The veritas tech said that it could be a problem with my EMM database, and that I should try upgrading to MP3I think that's a cop-out answer. I don't want to move to MP3 because of all the problems I keep hearing about it. But If I can't recycle my tapes with MP2, I might now have a choice. -- Mike -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:46 PM To: Sponsler, Michael Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing Give what Simon said a try, a ./bpmedialist should show you the media server it was used to mount the tape. It sucks you can't use -deassignbyid in 6.0. On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Sponsler, Michael wrote: Netbackup 6 MP2, solaris 8 media server, solaris 10 master server. Quantum Superloader, SDLT600. Each media server has a Superloader connected locally via SCSI. I'm trying to deassign tapes so I can erase/label them for re-use. When trying to run the bpexpdate command (on the media server), it will ask me if I'm sure I want to delete the tape, I answer 'y' for yes, and it will sit there for hours. I'll have to do a control-C to kill the command, and the tape will still be assigned. I get no error, haven't seen anything in /var/adm/messages on the media or master server. I haven't seen anything distinguishable in the netbackup logs. Has anyone had any problems like this before? Anyone have any suggestions? -- Mike Sponsler Northrop Grumman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (703) 968-1302 12900 Federal Systems Pkwy Fairfax, VA 22033 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing
Our problems were so bad with MP2 and MP3 that we had to move to MP4 beta, if your problems warrant it, they'll give you the link. I can understand your concern, I'd recommend shutting down all services and making a backup of /usr/openv on EVERY server, master media just incase you need to revert back for any reason. IMO 6.0 is very flaky in a lot of ways, the upgrade should work without any problems but you can never to be too sure. MP3 fixes a lot of bugs and MP4 beta fixes about 1000+ more according to the changelog. If 6.0MP2 is working for you, good, just try and get support to fix your issue, otherwise, an upgrade may be needed. Justin. On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Sponsler, Michael wrote: This is a large environment, 50+ media servers. I've been hesitant to move to MP3. Have you had any significant problems with MP3? Or how about MP4 beta? How did you get ahold of that? -- Mike -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:01 PM To: Sponsler, Michael Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing I'd recommend MP3, I personally have several environments running MP4 beta actually, if you are running 6.x anything make sure you are the LATEST patch rev you can be at, especially before you call support. Justin. On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Sponsler, Michael wrote: I did try that on the master server ./bpexpdate -m XXX -d 0 -host Mediaserver -force I don't get the Are you SURE you want to delete y/n (n)? when I try it from the master server. It just sits there... I have a call logged in veritas right now. The veritas tech said that it could be a problem with my EMM database, and that I should try upgrading to MP3I think that's a cop-out answer. I don't want to move to MP3 because of all the problems I keep hearing about it. But If I can't recycle my tapes with MP2, I might now have a choice. -- Mike -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:46 PM To: Sponsler, Michael Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing Give what Simon said a try, a ./bpmedialist should show you the media server it was used to mount the tape. It sucks you can't use -deassignbyid in 6.0. On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Sponsler, Michael wrote: Netbackup 6 MP2, solaris 8 media server, solaris 10 master server. Quantum Superloader, SDLT600. Each media server has a Superloader connected locally via SCSI. I'm trying to deassign tapes so I can erase/label them for re-use. When trying to run the bpexpdate command (on the media server), it will ask me if I'm sure I want to delete the tape, I answer 'y' for yes, and it will sit there for hours. I'll have to do a control-C to kill the command, and the tape will still be assigned. I get no error, haven't seen anything in /var/adm/messages on the media or master server. I haven't seen anything distinguishable in the netbackup logs. Has anyone had any problems like this before? Anyone have any suggestions? -- Mike Sponsler Northrop Grumman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (703) 968-1302 12900 Federal Systems Pkwy Fairfax, VA 22033 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate not working, freezing
On 11/13/2006 12:00 PM, Justin Piszcz wrote: I'd recommend MP3, I personally have several environments running MP4 beta actually, if you are running 6.x anything make sure you are the LATEST patch rev you can be at, especially before you call support. The latest generally-available release is MP3 and you don't want to run that in a large complex environment. MP3 with some Engineering patches is tolerable (and you can't get these without calling support), but I would recommend waiting until MP4, due real soon now. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
