Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups fail with Netbackup status 245 - Solved
I have battled this problem a long time ago, with 5.1 it didn't seem to happen. With 6.0+ it started. If the client is in more than 1 policy you *SHOULD* specify the policy, e.g. export NB_ORA_POLICY I believe for the policyname of the backup (user backup). This solves the problem. They can also add that into the ORA rman backup script. Justin. On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Lightner, Jeff wrote: Just posting this for list posterity as I didn't see much in search (mostly about 245 on Informix). We're running NBU 6.5x and this morning I saw an RMAN archive log backup that runs at night as well as the man RMAN database backup we run starting at 9 AM both failed with status code 245. Interestingly the detail for both jobs had almost no information and didn't even allow me to see what a 245 was. A web search shows this issue for Informix (from 2004) but not for Oracle RMAN. Running bperror -statuscode 245 displayed: the specified policy is not of the correct client type A user backup specified a policy that is not the type that is required for the client. Running bperror -jobid 632020 which is one of the failed jobs didn't help much as it only displayed: 1292508052 1 66 4 atubks01 632020 -1 0 *NULL* nbpem CLIENT ralpha POLICY RALPH-DB-ORA SCHED Full-Offsite EXIT STATUS 245 (the specified policy is not of the correct client type) On checking the two policies I found that both had policy as Standard instead of Oracle.Yesterday my co-worker had tried to do a mass change to move policies from one of our data domain units to another. One of the unintended consequences of what he did was it reactivated many of our deactivated policies. My theory is that it also changed the policy type from Oracle to Standard on these two policies as they were among the ones moved. __ Jeff Lightner | UNIX/Linux Administrator | DS Waters of America, Inc | 5660 New Northside Drive, Ste 250 | Atlanta, GA 30328 *: (Direct Dial) 770-486-3516 |*: (Cell) 678-772-0018 | *:jlight...@water.com Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups
netbackup 6 works the same way ---Original Message--- From: Austin Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups Sent: 27 Nov '06 22:15 On 11/24/06, mkiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going through the NetBackup for Oracle Admin guide, it mentions that you can have multiple schedules in the policy with different retention periods. That is you can have a FULL backup schedule with retention period of 1 year and an INCREMENTAL backup schedule with retention of 1 month. This may be new in NBU 6, but I remeber in NBU 5.x, the retention period that was always used was that of Default-Application-Backup schedule. So in my NBU 5.0 environment, I have ONE policy for FULL Oracle backup with 1 year retention and ONE Oracle policy for INCREMENTAL backups with 1 month retention. Each policy has 2 schedules in it, one of those is Default-Application-Backup schedule, both schedule have same retntion period, i.e. for FULL Backup policy retention period for both schedules is 1 year and for INCREMENTAL policy retention period for both schedules is 1 month. So my question is, is it the same behaviour in NBU 6.0 for Oracle and SQL backups, or it has changed. I'm familiar with NB 5.1, where there are 2 kinds of Oracle schedules: Automatic and Application. - Automatic schedules simply act as triggers and execute the RMAN script on the client. - Application schedules receive the incoming datastream(s) generated by the RMAN script. If the incoming data stream does not specify an Application schedule (by default, it doesn't), NetBackup will assign it the first schedule that meets the following criteria: - in the specified policy (by default this is sent) - open window You can easily set the window so you get incrementals to be retained for a different time period than the fulls, but you can't differentiate between backups done at the same time of the week, but with different retentions. (weekly/monthly/yearly for instance) The retention level of the Automatic backup schedule is not useful. It specifies how long to keep record of the fact that an Automatic backup schedule was triggered. The retention level of the incoming data is set by the schedule used to receive the incoming data stream. Turn up logging for bphdb and you will see which variables get passed to the RMAN script. # NB_ORA_PC_SCHED is the name of the AUTO schedule. # NB_ORA_SCHED is the name of the APP schedule. Using these variables, you can have the RMAN script pick which Application Backup schedule to use. This will let you avoid using multiple policies to backup one Oracle server. You can even skip the AUTO schedule and use your own timer/scheduler to trigger the RMAN script whenever you want. You send the variables back to NetBackup like this: ... ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch00 TYPE 'SBT_TAPE'; SEND 'NB_ORA_SCHED=$NB_ORA_SCHED'; BACKUP ... This technique does not apply to MS-SQL backups (w/ NB 5.1) since they use a different mechanism to send data to NetBackup. I don't know how this applies to NB 6.x. Austin ___ Veritas-bu [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups
NetBackup is pretty weird in this area, IMHO. In order to to have multiple retentions in one Oracle Agent policy, you need to have multiple application backup schedules, not just a default application backup schedule. As with regular file system backups, separate policies are independent (except that your agent script probably erases archive redologs under some circumstances). The archives of this mailing list are filled with advice on agent backups, how they work and how people use them. I recommend searching for posts of Michael F. Lavelle for excellent information on the subject. Everything I've written above applies to v5 ... I haven't moved to v6.0. cheers, wayne I am going through the NetBackup for Oracle Admin guide, it mentions that you can have multiple schedules in the policy with different retention periods. That is you can have a FULL backup schedule with retention period of 1 year and an INCREMENTAL backup schedule with retention of 1 month. This may be new in NBU 6, but I remeber in NBU 5.x, the retention period that was always used was that of Default-Application-Backup schedule. So in my NBU 5.0 environment, I have ONE policy for FULL Oracle backup with 1 year retention and ONE Oracle policy for INCREMENTAL backups with 1 month retention. Each policy has 2 schedules in it, one of those is Default-Application-Backup schedule, both schedule have same retntion period, i.e. for FULL Backup policy retention period for both schedules is 1 year and for INCREMENTAL policy retention period for both schedules is 1 month. So my question is, is it the same behaviour in NBU 6.0 for Oracle and SQL backups, or it has changed. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups
I was under the impression that RMAN backups were supposed to have INFINITE retention and that RMAN took care of expiring the images, there by keeping the RMAN catalog in sync with the NetBackup catalog. Otherwise RMAN will think there is a good backup, but NetBackup has expired it, if the retention level is different than what RMAN expects. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Architect Engineering +44 20 7863 5243 Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most! - Unknown There are only 10 kinds of people on earth - those who understand binary and those who don't. Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte -- Martin Niemöller -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mkiles Sent: 24 November 2006 16:11 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups Hi All I am going through the NetBackup for Oracle Admin guide, it mentions that you can have multiple schedules in the policy with different retention periods. That is you can have a FULL backup schedule with retention period of 1 year and an INCREMENTAL backup schedule with retention of 1 month. This may be new in NBU 6, but I remeber in NBU 5.x, the retention period that was always used was that of Default-Application-Backup schedule. So in my NBU 5.0 environment, I have ONE policy for FULL Oracle backup with 1 year retention and ONE Oracle policy for INCREMENTAL backups with 1 month retention. Each policy has 2 schedules in it, one of those is Default-Application-Backup schedule, both schedule have same retntion period, i.e. for FULL Backup policy retention period for both schedules is 1 year and for INCREMENTAL policy retention period for both schedules is 1 month. So my question is, is it the same behaviour in NBU 6.0 for Oracle and SQL backups, or it has changed. THX Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu * The message is intended for the named addressee only and may not be disclosed to or used by anyone else, nor may it be copied in any way. The contents of this message and its attachments are confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the named addressee and/or have received this message in error, please advise us by e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies. Internet communications are not secure and COLT does not accept responsibility for this message, its contents nor responsibility for any viruses. No contracts can be created or varied on behalf of COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or affiliates (COLT) and any other party by email Communications unless expressly agreed in writing with such other party. Please note that incoming emails will be automatically scanned to eliminate potential viruses and unsolicited promotional emails. For more information refer to www.colt.net or contact us on +44(0)20 7390 3900. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups
I am talking about NetBackup expiration only, RMAN catalog should be cross checked with NBU catalog, periodically to keep both in sync. In my case I dont use RMAN catalog, I use control file. Thx --- Whelan, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was under the impression that RMAN backups were supposed to have INFINITE retention and that RMAN took care of expiring the images, there by keeping the RMAN catalog in sync with the NetBackup catalog. Otherwise RMAN will think there is a good backup, but NetBackup has expired it, if the retention level is different than what RMAN expects. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Architect Engineering +44 20 7863 5243 Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most! - Unknown There are only 10 kinds of people on earth - those who understand binary and those who don't. Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte -- Martin Niemöller -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mkiles Sent: 24 November 2006 16:11 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups Hi All I am going through the NetBackup for Oracle Admin guide, it mentions that you can have multiple schedules in the policy with different retention periods. That is you can have a FULL backup schedule with retention period of 1 year and an INCREMENTAL backup schedule with retention of 1 month. This may be new in NBU 6, but I remeber in NBU 5.x, the retention period that was always used was that of Default-Application-Backup schedule. So in my NBU 5.0 environment, I have ONE policy for FULL Oracle backup with 1 year retention and ONE Oracle policy for INCREMENTAL backups with 1 month retention. Each policy has 2 schedules in it, one of those is Default-Application-Backup schedule, both schedule have same retntion period, i.e. for FULL Backup policy retention period for both schedules is 1 year and for INCREMENTAL policy retention period for both schedules is 1 month. So my question is, is it the same behaviour in NBU 6.0 for Oracle and SQL backups, or it has changed. THX Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu * The message is intended for the named addressee only and may not be disclosed to or used by anyone else, nor may it be copied in any way. The contents of this message and its attachments are confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the named addressee and/or have received this message in error, please advise us by e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies. Internet communications are not secure and COLT does not accept responsibility for this message, its contents nor responsibility for any viruses. No contracts can be created or varied on behalf of COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or affiliates (COLT) and any other party by email Communications unless expressly agreed in writing with such other party. Please note that incoming emails will be automatically scanned to eliminate potential viruses and unsolicited promotional emails. For more information refer to www.colt.net or contact us on +44(0)20 7390 3900. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups and media IDs
Hi Paul Oracle(rman) dosn't track the media ID as default, it requests a restore of a fileset. Regards Michael On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:27:21 -0400, Paul Keating wrote When using the Netbackup Oracle Agent, and a client initiated backup is written, does the Oracle apps retain any record of media ID? f'rinstance, if a backup is run, then the tape is bpduplicated to another media ID, then the 2nd copy is promoted to primary. When a restore is attempted, will the proper tape be accessed? I'm assuming the application tracks something like the image ID, and netbackup will figure out the proper media. ?? Paul -- Cybercity Webhosting (http://www.cybercity.dk) ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
