Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors.
Try unchecking the allow retry after calendar day (Not sure how it is worded exactly). Why do you have a calendar based schedule for your daily? Looks like you just need it for the weekly/monthly. On 9/21/2010 4:02 PM, THELEN, ROBERT M (ATTSI) wrote: I have seen Calendar based backups do this when the backup window is open for a long time. The Window is really to be used for frequency based backups – The backup will happen sometime during that window, based on the frequency. However, for calendar based backups, the start of the backup window is when the backup is set to run. If the backup runs and completes during the window, and it is still the same calendar day, then the backup will run again, until the backup window closes, with some respect for the frequency (but not much). I solved this in the past by either shrinking the backup window or inflating the frequency. With your backup windows starting at 7am and running all day through 10pm, I would guess that some of these backups might even run more than once per day. -Rob Thelen. *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *BeDour, Wayne *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:39 AM *To:* WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors. It’s calendar based, daily is a Cumulative Incremental that runs Monday through Saturday, backup window 07:00:00 à 22:00:00. The weekly / monthly is a Full, runs on Sunday with the same window. It has happened on the weekly and daily runs. Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com mailto:wbed...@lear.com *From:* WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* BeDour, Wayne; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Wayne What is the frequency set for in this policy (within the schedule). Simon *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *BeDour, Wayne *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:07 PM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master and media server running NetBackup 6.5.2. Running mostly unix / Linus backups and a couple windows b/u’s thrown in for good measure. I’ve been modifying a few policies, splitting out mount points, changing the volume pool etc. On a couple of the policies that I’ve modified, they successfully run to completion and then they kick off again and error out with a 196. When they attempt to run after the successful run, they are still in the backup window even though they shouldn’t have kicked off again. Doesn’t make much sense to me, anyone ever see this before? Thanks in advance…. Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com mailto:wbed...@lear.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors.
I was going to suggest to update to .6 as well Used to see this on SAP systems, but not to the same degree as this. S. From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com [mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:27 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); wbed...@lear.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors. I use to have that, can't remember if it was a bug or not. if you can bounce nb, or disable and re enable the policy. Or just bounce the scheduler on the master. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:28 AM To: BeDour, Wayne; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Wayne What is the frequency set for in this policy (within the schedule). Simon From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour, Wayne Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:07 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master and media server running NetBackup 6.5.2. Running mostly unix / Linus backups and a couple windows b/u's thrown in for good measure. I've been modifying a few policies, splitting out mount points, changing the volume pool etc. On a couple of the policies that I've modified, they successfully run to completion and then they kick off again and error out with a 196. When they attempt to run after the successful run, they are still in the backup window even though they shouldn't have kicked off again. Doesn't make much sense to me, anyone ever see this before? Thanks in advance Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors.
I would agree to try to patch as there were some issues with the early releases and calendar based scheds. Calendar scheduling is the bane of NetBackup engineering. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ http://availability.sungard.com/ P Think before you print CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. WEAVER, Simon (external) simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 09/21/2010 09:42 AM To judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com, wbed...@lear.com, veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors. I was going to suggest to update to .6 as well Used to see this on SAP systems, but not to the same degree as this. S. From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com [mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:27 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); wbed...@lear.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors. I use to have that, can’t remember if it was a bug or not. if you can bounce nb, or disable and re enable the policy. Or just bounce the scheduler on the master. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:28 AM To: BeDour, Wayne; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Wayne What is the frequency set for in this policy (within the schedule). Simon From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour, Wayne Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:07 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master and media server running NetBackup 6.5.2. Running mostly unix / Linus backups and a couple windows b/u’s thrown in for good measure. I’ve been modifying a few policies, splitting out mount points, changing the volume pool etc. On a couple of the policies that I’ve modified, they successfully run to completion and then they kick off again and error out with a 196. When they attempt to run after the successful run, they are still in the backup window even though they shouldn’t have kicked off again. Doesn’t make much sense to me, anyone ever see this before? Thanks in advance…. Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England
Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors.
I have seen Calendar based backups do this when the backup window is open for a long time. The Window is really to be used for frequency based backups – The backup will happen sometime during that window, based on the frequency. However, for calendar based backups, the start of the backup window is when the backup is set to run. If the backup runs and completes during the window, and it is still the same calendar day, then the backup will run again, until the backup window closes, with some respect for the frequency (but not much). I solved this in the past by either shrinking the backup window or inflating the frequency. With your backup windows starting at 7am and running all day through 10pm, I would guess that some of these backups might even run more than once per day. -Rob Thelen. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour, Wayne Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:39 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors. It’s calendar based, daily is a Cumulative Incremental that runs Monday through Saturday, backup window 07:00:00 à 22:00:00. The weekly / monthly is a Full, runs on Sunday with the same window. It has happened on the weekly and daily runs. Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:28 AM To: BeDour, Wayne; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Wayne What is the frequency set for in this policy (within the schedule). Simon From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour, Wayne Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:07 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master and media server running NetBackup 6.5.2. Running mostly unix / Linus backups and a couple windows b/u’s thrown in for good measure. I’ve been modifying a few policies, splitting out mount points, changing the volume pool etc. On a couple of the policies that I’ve modified, they successfully run to completion and then they kick off again and error out with a 196. When they attempt to run after the successful run, they are still in the backup window even though they shouldn’t have kicked off again. Doesn’t make much sense to me, anyone ever see this before? Thanks in advance…. Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu