Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

2007-01-17 Thread Curtis Preston
To set the record straight on this, I got a private email from a Quantum SE and 
this is what he said:

 

On the PX510 (and the 502 and 506), you can either setup the library to 

have no CAP (load port, Import Export station, mail slots, etc), or up to 36 
load port slots.  

 

The bottom left and bottom right magazines can be configured as load ports 
through 

the web interface to the library or through settings on the front control 
panel.  

When there is a CAP configured on the PX510, you should not have to take it 

offline to open the CAP and load/unload cartridges.

 

In addition, while the Scalar 24 might have to come offline, the larger Scalar 
products (Scalar 1K, 2K, 10K) can remain online while you open the CAP.

 

Someone else verified that STK libraries also don't have to come offline to 
open the CAP.

 

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Author of O'Reilly's Backup  Recovery and Using SANs and NAS

VP Data Protection

GlassHouse Technologies

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Keating
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:42 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

the ATL (Quantum) P1000 and P3000 libraries I've dealt with years ago can as 
well.

the ADIC scalar24 I have goes offline, however, IIRC.

 

Paul

 

 

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Sent: January 11, 2007 7:12 AM
To: Curtis Preston; Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

You're right about the STK's.  We have L20's, L40's, L700's and even an 
old 9740, and they can al be opened without taking them off-line.

 

Tom Tschida

Boston Scientific

 


 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

2007-01-11 Thread Tschida, Tom \(STP\)
You're right about the STK's.  We have L20's, L40's, L700's and even an
old 9740, and they can al be opened without taking them off-line.

 

Tom Tschida

Boston Scientific

 



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Preston
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:39 AM
To: Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

Really?  I haven't used that particular model, but that reminds me of
the OLD Quantum 4x100 libraries (forgot the model number) from years
ago.  I'm pretty sure that you can open the CAP on an ADIC (now
Quantum), STK (now Sun) and IBM library without taking the library
offline.  (Anyone want to say different?)  

 

Is this just a PX510 thing, or is this all Quantum (non-ADIC) libraries?
Am I right about the other libraries not having this issue?

 

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VP Data Protection

GlassHouse Technologies

 



From: Sponsler, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:31 AM
To: Curtis Preston; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

I can't open the doors to the PX510 without taking the drive itself it
offline.  There is no mail slot in the PX510.  There are load ports, but
again, I have to open the door of the PX510 to access the load ports,
and the PX510 itself will not open the doors while the PX510 itself is
on-line.  The on-line / off-line of the PX510 is different than the
on-line / off-line status of the drives in Netbackup.

 

--

Mike Sponsler

Northrop Grumman

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 



From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:02 PM
To: Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

Patient: Doctor my arms hurts when I move it like this.  

Doctor: Don't move it like that.

 

Seriously, why not use NBU's ability to move tapes in and out of the
library without having to take it offline?

 

---

W. Curtis Preston

Author of O'Reilly's Backup  Recovery and Using SANs and NAS

VP Data Protection

GlassHouse Technologies

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michael
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:07 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

All, 
I've got an odd problem with my PX510 and my Solaris 10, Netbackup 6.0
MP2 master server.  The PX510 is connected to a fibre san switch, and my
Solaris 10 Netbackup 6 master server is connected into the san switch as
well.  When the PX510 is taken off-line (say to add new tapes, remove
old tapes, inventory the tape library at the PX510), then taken back
on-line, I can't see the PX510 from my Solaris 10 master server.  If I
run sgscan from the Solaris 10 box, I can't see the the jukebox until
the Solaris 10 box is reset.  

The odd thing is, is that the PX510 is used for Shared Storage.  I've
got a Linux box (SLES 9) running Netbackup 6 MP2 connected to the fibre
san switch as well.  The Linux box can see it by running
/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/scan before and after the PX510 goes offline then
online.  I can't keep rebooting my Solaris 10 master server every time I
add or remove tapes from it.  I've tried modunload and modload on the sg
and st modules in solaris.  Has anyone had anything similar to this
occur to them?  If so did you find a work around?  Or if you've got any
general ideas, please share.

-- 
Mike Sponsler 
Northrop Grumman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

2007-01-11 Thread Paul Keating
the ATL (Quantum) P1000 and P3000 libraries I've dealt with years ago
can as well.
the ADIC scalar24 I have goes offline, however, IIRC.
 
Paul
 
 
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veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10,
Netbackup 6



You're right about the STK's.  We have L20's, L40's, L700's and
even an old 9740, and they can al be opened without taking them
off-line.

 

Tom Tschida

Boston Scientific

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

2007-01-10 Thread Curtis Preston
Patient: Doctor my arms hurts when I move it like this.  

Doctor: Don't move it like that.

 

Seriously, why not use NBU's ability to move tapes in and out of the
library without having to take it offline?

 

---

W. Curtis Preston

Author of O'Reilly's Backup  Recovery and Using SANs and NAS

VP Data Protection

GlassHouse Technologies

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michael
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:07 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

All, 
I've got an odd problem with my PX510 and my Solaris 10, Netbackup 6.0
MP2 master server.  The PX510 is connected to a fibre san switch, and my
Solaris 10 Netbackup 6 master server is connected into the san switch as
well.  When the PX510 is taken off-line (say to add new tapes, remove
old tapes, inventory the tape library at the PX510), then taken back
on-line, I can't see the PX510 from my Solaris 10 master server.  If I
run sgscan from the Solaris 10 box, I can't see the the jukebox until
the Solaris 10 box is reset.  

The odd thing is, is that the PX510 is used for Shared Storage.  I've
got a Linux box (SLES 9) running Netbackup 6 MP2 connected to the fibre
san switch as well.  The Linux box can see it by running
/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/scan before and after the PX510 goes offline then
online.  I can't keep rebooting my Solaris 10 master server every time I
add or remove tapes from it.  I've tried modunload and modload on the sg
and st modules in solaris.  Has anyone had anything similar to this
occur to them?  If so did you find a work around?  Or if you've got any
general ideas, please share.

-- 
Mike Sponsler 
Northrop Grumman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

2007-01-10 Thread Sponsler, Michael
I can't open the doors to the PX510 without taking the drive itself it
offline.  There is no mail slot in the PX510.  There are load ports, but
again, I have to open the door of the PX510 to access the load ports,
and the PX510 itself will not open the doors while the PX510 itself is
on-line.  The on-line / off-line of the PX510 is different than the
on-line / off-line status of the drives in Netbackup.
 
--
Mike Sponsler
Northrop Grumman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 



From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:02 PM
To: Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6



Patient: Doctor my arms hurts when I move it like this.  

Doctor: Don't move it like that.

 

Seriously, why not use NBU's ability to move tapes in and out of the
library without having to take it offline?

 

---

W. Curtis Preston

Author of O'Reilly's Backup  Recovery and Using SANs and NAS

VP Data Protection

GlassHouse Technologies

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sponsler,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:07 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

All, 
I've got an odd problem with my PX510 and my Solaris 10, Netbackup 6.0
MP2 master server.  The PX510 is connected to a fibre san switch, and my
Solaris 10 Netbackup 6 master server is connected into the san switch as
well.  When the PX510 is taken off-line (say to add new tapes, remove
old tapes, inventory the tape library at the PX510), then taken back
on-line, I can't see the PX510 from my Solaris 10 master server.  If I
run sgscan from the Solaris 10 box, I can't see the the jukebox until
the Solaris 10 box is reset.  

The odd thing is, is that the PX510 is used for Shared Storage.  I've
got a Linux box (SLES 9) running Netbackup 6 MP2 connected to the fibre
san switch as well.  The Linux box can see it by running
/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/scan before and after the PX510 goes offline then
online.  I can't keep rebooting my Solaris 10 master server every time I
add or remove tapes from it.  I've tried modunload and modload on the sg
and st modules in solaris.  Has anyone had anything similar to this
occur to them?  If so did you find a work around?  Or if you've got any
general ideas, please share.

-- 
Mike Sponsler 
Northrop Grumman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

2007-01-10 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
THE PX series Media Access port is pretty sad at best.  Its
potentially a work around, but we don't use it here because its
terrible.
 
-Jonathan



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Preston
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:02 PM
To: Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6



Patient: Doctor my arms hurts when I move it like this.  

Doctor: Don't move it like that.

 

Seriously, why not use NBU's ability to move tapes in and out of the
library without having to take it offline?

 

---

W. Curtis Preston

Author of O'Reilly's Backup  Recovery and Using SANs and NAS

VP Data Protection

GlassHouse Technologies

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sponsler,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:07 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

All, 
I've got an odd problem with my PX510 and my Solaris 10, Netbackup 6.0
MP2 master server.  The PX510 is connected to a fibre san switch, and my
Solaris 10 Netbackup 6 master server is connected into the san switch as
well.  When the PX510 is taken off-line (say to add new tapes, remove
old tapes, inventory the tape library at the PX510), then taken back
on-line, I can't see the PX510 from my Solaris 10 master server.  If I
run sgscan from the Solaris 10 box, I can't see the the jukebox until
the Solaris 10 box is reset.  

The odd thing is, is that the PX510 is used for Shared Storage.  I've
got a Linux box (SLES 9) running Netbackup 6 MP2 connected to the fibre
san switch as well.  The Linux box can see it by running
/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/scan before and after the PX510 goes offline then
online.  I can't keep rebooting my Solaris 10 master server every time I
add or remove tapes from it.  I've tried modunload and modload on the sg
and st modules in solaris.  Has anyone had anything similar to this
occur to them?  If so did you find a work around?  Or if you've got any
general ideas, please share.

-- 
Mike Sponsler 
Northrop Grumman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

2007-01-10 Thread Chapman, Scott
I had an issue a few years ago on solaris 8.  During the nightly backup
window, the master would lose contact with the library so as long as a
backup didn't need another tape, things would keep running, however,
once another tape was required, then I was in trouble . . . I had to
reboot the master to fix the problem.  Turns out I needed an isp driver
patch and once that was applied things we all good!
 
I would confirm that your master is patched with the recommended cluster
and if that doesn't work, then I would open a case with SUN . . .
 
 
http://icbc.com/ 

Scott Chapman

Senior Technical Specialist 
Storage  Database Administration 
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Fax: 250-978-8003   
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:02 AM
To: Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10,
Netbackup 6



Patient: Doctor my arms hurts when I move it like this.  

Doctor: Don't move it like that.

 

Seriously, why not use NBU's ability to move tapes in and out of
the library without having to take it offline?

 

---

W. Curtis Preston

Author of O'Reilly's Backup  Recovery and Using SANs and NAS

VP Data Protection

GlassHouse Technologies

 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sponsler,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:07 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

All, 
I've got an odd problem with my PX510 and my Solaris 10,
Netbackup 6.0 MP2 master server.  The PX510 is connected to a fibre san
switch, and my Solaris 10 Netbackup 6 master server is connected into
the san switch as well.  When the PX510 is taken off-line (say to add
new tapes, remove old tapes, inventory the tape library at the PX510),
then taken back on-line, I can't see the PX510 from my Solaris 10 master
server.  If I run sgscan from the Solaris 10 box, I can't see the the
jukebox until the Solaris 10 box is reset.  

The odd thing is, is that the PX510 is used for Shared Storage.
I've got a Linux box (SLES 9) running Netbackup 6 MP2 connected to the
fibre san switch as well.  The Linux box can see it by running
/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/scan before and after the PX510 goes offline then
online.  I can't keep rebooting my Solaris 10 master server every time I
add or remove tapes from it.  I've tried modunload and modload on the sg
and st modules in solaris.  Has anyone had anything similar to this
occur to them?  If so did you find a work around?  Or if you've got any
general ideas, please share.

-- 
Mike Sponsler 
Northrop Grumman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

2007-01-10 Thread Curtis Preston
Really?  I haven't used that particular model, but that reminds me of
the OLD Quantum 4x100 libraries (forgot the model number) from years
ago.  I'm pretty sure that you can open the CAP on an ADIC (now
Quantum), STK (now Sun) and IBM library without taking the library
offline.  (Anyone want to say different?)  

 

Is this just a PX510 thing, or is this all Quantum (non-ADIC) libraries?
Am I right about the other libraries not having this issue?

 

---

W. Curtis Preston

Author of O'Reilly's Backup  Recovery and Using SANs and NAS

VP Data Protection

GlassHouse Technologies

 



From: Sponsler, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:31 AM
To: Curtis Preston; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

I can't open the doors to the PX510 without taking the drive itself it
offline.  There is no mail slot in the PX510.  There are load ports, but
again, I have to open the door of the PX510 to access the load ports,
and the PX510 itself will not open the doors while the PX510 itself is
on-line.  The on-line / off-line of the PX510 is different than the
on-line / off-line status of the drives in Netbackup.

 

--

Mike Sponsler

Northrop Grumman

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 



From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:02 PM
To: Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

Patient: Doctor my arms hurts when I move it like this.  

Doctor: Don't move it like that.

 

Seriously, why not use NBU's ability to move tapes in and out of the
library without having to take it offline?

 

---

W. Curtis Preston

Author of O'Reilly's Backup  Recovery and Using SANs and NAS

VP Data Protection

GlassHouse Technologies

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sponsler,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:07 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quantum PX510 with Solaris 10, Netbackup 6

 

All, 
I've got an odd problem with my PX510 and my Solaris 10, Netbackup 6.0
MP2 master server.  The PX510 is connected to a fibre san switch, and my
Solaris 10 Netbackup 6 master server is connected into the san switch as
well.  When the PX510 is taken off-line (say to add new tapes, remove
old tapes, inventory the tape library at the PX510), then taken back
on-line, I can't see the PX510 from my Solaris 10 master server.  If I
run sgscan from the Solaris 10 box, I can't see the the jukebox until
the Solaris 10 box is reset.  

The odd thing is, is that the PX510 is used for Shared Storage.  I've
got a Linux box (SLES 9) running Netbackup 6 MP2 connected to the fibre
san switch as well.  The Linux box can see it by running
/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/scan before and after the PX510 goes offline then
online.  I can't keep rebooting my Solaris 10 master server every time I
add or remove tapes from it.  I've tried modunload and modload on the sg
and st modules in solaris.  Has anyone had anything similar to this
occur to them?  If so did you find a work around?  Or if you've got any
general ideas, please share.

-- 
Mike Sponsler 
Northrop Grumman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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