Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4
can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ?? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forester, Jack L Sent: 14 May 2007 14:49 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Something else to consider is that end of support for 5.x is in October. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 yeahwait for 6.5, that's what we are doing --stuart _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wigington Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4? TIA, Mike Wig _ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc= X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- cars at Yahoo! Autos. This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4
Argh...I knew someone was going to ask me that. I should have had that info ready. I found the info on Veritas' site. I'm looking for it again now. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:59 AM To: Forester, Jack L; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ?? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forester, Jack L Sent: 14 May 2007 14:49 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Something else to consider is that end of support for 5.x is in October. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 yeahwait for 6.5, that's what we are doing --stuart From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wigington Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4? TIA, Mike Wig Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4
Well not the best news to hear did expect 5.1 to be around until 2008 at least ! Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hampus Lind [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 May 2007 15:23 To: 'Forester, Jack L'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; WEAVER, Simon Subject: SV: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Here you go... :-) Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Forester, Jack L Skickat: den 14 maj 2007 16:04 Till: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Ämne: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Argh...I knew someone was going to ask me that. I should have had that info ready. I found the info on Veritas' site. I'm looking for it again now. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 _ From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:59 AM To: Forester, Jack L; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ?? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forester, Jack L Sent: 14 May 2007 14:49 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Something else to consider is that end of support for 5.x is in October. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 yeahwait for 6.5, that's what we are doing --stuart _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wigington Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4? TIA, Mike Wig _ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc= X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- cars at Yahoo! Autos. This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4
We're having wonderful luck with 6.0MP4. It's fixed a bunch of issues related to de-staging DSSUs. Backing up about 60 servers/night. 1 Master (Win) and 1 Media (Linux). I was recently told by my SE that 6.5 will be as stable as MP4. And engineering's viewing it as MP5. We'll see, but I'm going to have to go to 6.5 for Exchange 2007 support, as well as a 64 bit windows client. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:12 PM To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Why? I was under the impression 6.0 MP4 was fairly stable. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 yeah..wait for 6.5, that's what we are doing --stuart From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wigington Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4? TIA, Mike Wig Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_c ars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFn cwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4
NBU 6.0 MP4 has 64 bit windows client support already. Regards, -cj Courtenay Jones UNIX Systems Engineer, Raleigh Technology Centre -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:19 PM To: Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 We're having wonderful luck with 6.0MP4. It's fixed a bunch of issues related to de-staging DSSUs. Backing up about 60 servers/night. 1 Master (Win) and 1 Media (Linux). I was recently told by my SE that 6.5 will be as stable as MP4. And engineering's viewing it as MP5. We'll see, but I'm going to have to go to 6.5 for Exchange 2007 support, as well as a 64 bit windows client. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:12 PM To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Why? I was under the impression 6.0 MP4 was fairly stable. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 yeah..wait for 6.5, that's what we are doing --stuart From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wigington Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4? TIA, Mike Wig Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_c ars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFn cwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4
Good to know. Seems like I've heard yes, then no, before. Thanks, Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jones, Courtenay Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:34 PM To: Brooks, Jason; Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 NBU 6.0 MP4 has 64 bit windows client support already. Regards, -cj Courtenay Jones UNIX Systems Engineer, Raleigh Technology Centre -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:19 PM To: Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 We're having wonderful luck with 6.0MP4. It's fixed a bunch of issues related to de-staging DSSUs. Backing up about 60 servers/night. 1 Master (Win) and 1 Media (Linux). I was recently told by my SE that 6.5 will be as stable as MP4. And engineering's viewing it as MP5. We'll see, but I'm going to have to go to 6.5 for Exchange 2007 support, as well as a 64 bit windows client. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:12 PM To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Why? I was under the impression 6.0 MP4 was fairly stable. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 yeah..wait for 6.5, that's what we are doing --stuart From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wigington Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4? TIA, Mike Wig Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_c ars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFn cwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4
Yes, they definitely are Regards, -cj Courtenay Jones UNIX Systems Engineer, Raleigh Technology Centre -Original Message- From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:50 PM To: Jones, Courtenay; Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Good to know. Seems like I've heard yes, then no, before. Thanks, Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jones, Courtenay Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:34 PM To: Brooks, Jason; Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 NBU 6.0 MP4 has 64 bit windows client support already. Regards, -cj Courtenay Jones UNIX Systems Engineer, Raleigh Technology Centre -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:19 PM To: Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 We're having wonderful luck with 6.0MP4. It's fixed a bunch of issues related to de-staging DSSUs. Backing up about 60 servers/night. 1 Master (Win) and 1 Media (Linux). I was recently told by my SE that 6.5 will be as stable as MP4. And engineering's viewing it as MP5. We'll see, but I'm going to have to go to 6.5 for Exchange 2007 support, as well as a 64 bit windows client. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:12 PM To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Why? I was under the impression 6.0 MP4 was fairly stable. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 yeah..wait for 6.5, that's what we are doing --stuart From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wigington Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4? TIA, Mike Wig Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_c ars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFn cwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4
Stability is more important than functionality. I'm familiar with the 6.5 feature set, and I'm excited about it's release, but I'm not so excited about it that I'd recommend upgrading to it just after it comes out, especially for companies where upgrading the downgrading is a major ordeal, such as those who have to deal with validated systems. I'd take 6.0 MP4 over 6.5 or 6.5 MP1 any day. I'd let those who really need those wizbang 6.5 features upgrade to it and test it out for me for a while before I jump on it. ;) This has nothing to do with Symantec. It's my standard policy for any major infrastructure package. So if you adopt that mentality, I'd say I'll be waiting until AT LEAST Q1 2008 before upgrading to recommending an upgrade to 6.5. I also concur with the comments that the upgrade from 5.1 to 6.0 was major (from an infrastructure standpoint) and the upgrade from 6.0 to 6.5 is relatively minor in comparison. --- W. Curtis Preston Author of O'Reilly's Backup Recovery and Using SANs and NAS VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:51 AM To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 A few reasons: A long time ago it became clear that waiting for the next thing was a good way of never moving forward because something is always in the pipeline. The next thing is often called vaporware because all the bells and whistles they tell you it is going to have vaporize (disappear) in the actual release. Vendors don't always meet expected (or even announced) release dates for new software. You might actually have cycles now to do it that you won't have in the future. You may be wishing to implement new hardware in your environment (e.g. we're getting Data Domain) and want to understand any differences the new software does to your existing hardware so you'll understand later what was introduced by the new software and what was introduced by the new hardware. Given the major shift between 5.1 and 6.0 in the way NBU does things upgrading to 6.5 later will likely not be as major a change (somewhat like going from 4.5 to 5.1 wasn't that big a deal). Anyway we're just preparing to take the plunge ourselves so I can't say how easy it is. My opinions are formed mainly by reading this forum and by what our (not Symantec) vendor says about it. From: Liddle, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:19 PM To: Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 We have an environment that is under strict change control and if we are going to upgrade we are going to wait just a bit longer for the version that has more features in it. Why go for 6.0 now, when you might want to do the upgrade to 6.5 in just a few months? --stuart From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:12 AM To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Why? I was under the impression 6.0 MP4 was fairly stable. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 yeahwait for 6.5, that's what we are doing --stuart From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wigington Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4? TIA, Mike Wig Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4
I agree (with Curtis), if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If the current version is doing what you need and is running fine then don't change unless you have to (eg stay on supported version). A lot of people moved to version 6.0 for hot catalogue backups, new client support and SSO being properly built in. I did the upgrade at a previous place because of BMR and then didn't end up using it. I was quite upset since we went to it when only MP1 was around and had various scheduling issues. We loved version 5.1 MP4 6.0MP4 does seem OK but I still see some scheduling issues although I also need to do another nbcc so that could be it too. There's some wise words from Dave at cox.net . I have seen the same here in Aus, many people have done the upgrade too quickly. I even know of some Symantec guys that did it without running nbcc. That has changed, I think everyone knows that it should be used. I am even considering doing it every few months just to be extra safe. So, in summary, work out if you really need to upgrade and if you do, be prepared. But don't be too over cautious, make sure you are always on a supported version and be ready to move when support is ending.. All the best with backups/restores, Dom _ From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 May 2007 8:43 AM To: Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 Stability is more important than functionality. I'm familiar with the 6.5 feature set, and I'm excited about it's release, but I'm not so excited about it that I'd recommend upgrading to it just after it comes out, especially for companies where upgrading the downgrading is a major ordeal, such as those who have to deal with validated systems. I'd take 6.0 MP4 over 6.5 or 6.5 MP1 any day. I'd let those who really need those wizbang 6.5 features upgrade to it and test it out for me for a while before I jump on it. ;) This has nothing to do with Symantec. It's my standard policy for any major infrastructure package. So if you adopt that mentality, I'd say I'll be waiting until AT LEAST Q1 2008 before upgrading to recommending an upgrade to 6.5. I also concur with the comments that the upgrade from 5.1 to 6.0 was major (from an infrastructure standpoint) and the upgrade from 6.0 to 6.5 is relatively minor in comparison. --- W. Curtis Preston Author of O'Reilly's Backup Recovery and Using SANs and NAS VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:51 AM To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 A few reasons: A long time ago it became clear that waiting for the next thing was a good way of never moving forward because something is always in the pipeline. The next thing is often called vaporware because all the bells and whistles they tell you it is going to have vaporize (disappear) in the actual release. Vendors don't always meet expected (or even announced) release dates for new software. You might actually have cycles now to do it that you won't have in the future. You may be wishing to implement new hardware in your environment (e.g. we're getting Data Domain) and want to understand any differences the new software does to your existing hardware so you'll understand later what was introduced by the new software and what was introduced by the new hardware. Given the major shift between 5.1 and 6.0 in the way NBU does things upgrading to 6.5 later will likely not be as major a change (somewhat like going from 4.5 to 5.1 wasn't that big a deal). Anyway we're just preparing to take the plunge ourselves so I can't say how easy it is. My opinions are formed mainly by reading this forum and by what our (not Symantec) vendor says about it. _ From: Liddle, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:19 PM To: Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 We have an environment that is under strict change control and if we are going to upgrade we are going to wait just a bit longer for the version that has more features in it. Why go for 6.0 now, when you might want to do the upgrade to 6.5 in just a few months? --stuart _ From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:12 AM To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4 Why? I was under the impression 6.0 MP4 was fairly stable. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 [NC]
Agree with Ed - In fact I was referring to a few hundred tapes, but thousands would mean you could potentially end up marrying your Tape Library and never having an outside life again :-) Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: 11 May 2007 01:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mike Wigington' Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4 [NC] From what I've heard from Symantec and saw on this list, fresh install of NBU6 and import will work better. This is neither recommended nor practical in most cases. With several thousand tapes, an import will take *years*. .../Ed Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/797 - Release Date: 5/10/2007 5:10 PM ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
