RE: [Veritas-bu] VxSS - Veritas Security Service
VxSS is not needed. And if you decide to install it the performance of the activity monitor will be degraded. stefanos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Ljungblad Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:12 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim McDowell; Michael Morgan Subject: [Veritas-bu] VxSS - Veritas Security Service Veritas Security Service SYSTEM: 5.1 (mp2) Datacenter 6+ soon:2003New Windows Server System: SingleMastermedia server - Command Central : Symantech Staffon site training users this week - 2 Robotsone2006 Overland Neo:Ultrium 3 - Capacity -8 drives - Media = 100 + - 1. Robot 2001 one SUN L1800:4 DLT7000 -4 Drives - 96 Tape capacity - 1 Network to backup: 35 New 2003 Servers, sql, clusters, mail, XP Pc's, SAN etc... *5 New HP/UX kick ass clients, Payroll, lawson, oracle etc... WAN: NOT BACKED UP: 35 Networks, largest spanning up to 2500Miles from local Frame relay - SECURITY: CISCO's (ACL's): QUESTION:VxSSIs it neccessary to use VxSS on this Backup System? Is thereany issue's that we should be concerned with? Is there a risk of failed restores? Is this security system a hog? Are there advantages within a local LAN? Are there disadvantages within a local LANor in general? Are there any solutions to existing issue's that may have been Corrected? Any other suggestions for performance, tunning, updates or full Spectrum of our setup is Greatly Appreciated - Thanks, have a nice day - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copley Information Services La Jolla, CA 92037 (858) 729 - 8010
RE: [Veritas-bu] Jobs failing with error 50
Hi Ian Hm well my first thought was incorrect storage unit for the policies - but you mention other clients appear to be ok - I do wonder if its worth re-creating the storage units again. In terms of the client machines that appear to hang in Activity Monitor - has anything changed on the client side? (ie: any updates or config changes). Might be worth checking the BPCD and BPBKAR logs if enabled. It potentially could be a client side problem - lack of resources or disk space if you have an open file agent enabled. Restarting of the Netbackup Services (if not done so already) may help! Also, within the policies (if you have not done so), rather than use hosts, could the clients be entered as their IP address - So, if the client is known as COMPUTER1 in the policy, remove it and add its IP of 192.11.11.1 as an example (or whatever its IP is). Stop and restart the client service again Hope this is of some help. Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2006 05:45 To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Jobs failing with error 50 Hi all, I am currently have some major issues with my NetBackup 5.1MP3A environment (running on Solaris systems) where ALL my jobs fail with an error 50 after random amounts of time. This includes both Active, and Queued jobs. Symantec has told me they think it is a network related issue between my master server and my media server, and to put all the IP addresses of my media servers in the /etc/hosts file (which I have done), but the jobs still fail. Things may work OK for a few hours, and some of my jobs complete, but then all of a sudden, all jobs fail with an error 50. Anyone have any thoughts on this, or seen it before. One a related issue (I think), we are also getting jobs Queued for 1 hour and then failing with 219 errors, even though other jobs may be going to the same storage unit successfully. The 1 Hour timeout is due to a bpsched parameter somewhere, but why do the jobs sit in the Queued state and then after this timeout, fail with a 219 error? Any help on any of this would be very appreciated. This has been going on for over a week now, and we do not seem to be getting very far Ian Fehring Lead Technical Specialist, Storage Management National Australia Bank Level 1, 122 Lewis Rd Tel: +61 (0) 3 9886 2367 | Fax: +61 (0) 3 9886 2700 | Mob: +61 (0)417 520 953 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Australia Bank Limited - ACN 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by replying to the sender, and then destroy all copies of this email. Except where this email indicates otherwise, views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not of National Australia Bank Limited. Advice in this email does not take account of your objectives, financial situation, or needs. It is important for you to consider these matters and, if the e-mail refers to a product(s), you should read the relevant Product Disclosure Statement(s)/other disclosure document(s) before making any decisions. If you do not want email marketing from us in future, forward this email with unsubscribe in the subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order to stop marketing emails from this sender. National Australia Bank Limited does not represent that this email is free of errors, viruses or interference ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] VxSS - Veritas Security Service
Title: Message Hi Eric Depends on what "you" as a company want. It may not be viable - But there again, in your business it might be something you want to implement. I for one, would not :-) Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Eric Ljungblad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2006 12:12To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim McDowell; Michael MorganSubject: [Veritas-bu] VxSS - Veritas Security Service Veritas Security Service SYSTEM: 5.1 (mp2) Datacenter 6+ soon:2003New Windows Server System: SingleMastermedia server - Command Central : Symantech Staffon site training users this week - 2 Robotsone2006 Overland Neo:Ultrium 3 - Capacity -8 drives - Media = 100 + - 1. Robot 2001 one SUN L1800:4 DLT7000 -4 Drives - 96 Tape capacity - 1 Network to backup: 35 New 2003 Servers, sql, clusters, mail, XP Pc's, SAN etc... *5 New HP/UX kick ass clients, Payroll, lawson, oracle etc... WAN: NOT BACKED UP: 35 Networks, largest spanning up to 2500Miles from local Frame relay - SECURITY: CISCO's (ACL's): QUESTION:VxSSIs it neccessary to use VxSS on this Backup System? Is thereany issue's that we should be concerned with? Is there a risk of failed restores? Is this security system a hog? Are there advantages within a local LAN? Are there disadvantages within a local LANor in general? Are there any solutions to existing issue's that may have been Corrected? Any other suggestions for performance, tunning, updates or full Spectrum of our setup is Greatly Appreciated - Thanks, have a nice day - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copley Information Services La Jolla, CA 92037 (858) 729 - 8010 This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England
RE: [Veritas-bu] Barcode Scanning
Hi, You can use storage pools from netbackup to track your tapes. Netbackup knows if a tape is inside the library and you can use a script to inform netbackup were are the tapes that are out of the library (with vmchange command) stefanos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Durrant Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:52 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Barcode Scanning Hi Everyone I've been tasked with trying to find a solution to our tape mountain here. Our tapes are in one of four places and all have unique bar codes. Ideally, we want to have a handheld barcode scanner that can record when our tapes go off site and come back from the off-site datasafe. We also want to be able to record when the tapes are in the library etc. I know that our NetBackup solution can read the tapes but wondered if anyone has done something like this before and could recommend any products. The best product will feature a database which we could tailor to indicate which tapes are where. Thanks Justin -- To report this message as spam, click hereThis message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by DFK Systems Limited, and is believed to be clean.
[Veritas-bu] exclude, include query
Guys im mailing on behalf of a colleague who works on the windows side of the fence. He asked me this question about netbackup but i wasnt too sure on how it would behave. He basically wants to backup *.trk and *.bak ( i think cant remember ) on a couple few drives. Now he cant put m:\*.trk and m:\*.bak because that will just backup those files in the root of m:\ right? He has ought about doing this :- put in the policy file list *.trk and *.bak hoping this will backup all instances no matter what directory or mount point. Then in the exclude_list put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and in the include_list put m:\ n:\ Hes hoping this will backup *.trk anywhere under m:\ and n:\ Has anyone any idea if this will work or if the include_list overrides the policy file lists and everything under m:\ will be backed up? Cheers Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Jobs failing with error 50
You will also want to look at the logs to isolate where the communication breakdown is. Enable verbose logging with this in your /usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf file, on both master and media servers: VERBOSE = 5 Then, create some log directories on the master and media server. All under /usr/openv/netbackup/logs: On the master: bptm bpbrm bpsched On the media server: bpbrm bptm You might want to look at the client-side as well. With a bpbkar and bpcd log dir. Does the new nedia server get a forwards and reverse DNS mapping somewhere? What does 'bpclntcmd -hn mediaserver.you.com return? If you have the logging going, then what are the last 20 lines of each of these. That might tell a bit more of a story. You may also want to have it re-queue on error using the bp.conf directive: QUEUE_ON_ERROR (requires all nbu daemons to be bounced to take effect) And, if that does not get us there, then you will want to do a bpps -a, and kill the ltid process and spark up a new one with the '-v' flag. You will note that all of the VM stuff is then -v. Create the vmd and ltid log dirs to get the logs. On the media server. I usually (on Solaris) use truss -p on the PID of the vmd while running a backup to see what it gets back. Can also be very entertaining...and enlightening. Hope that helps. Cheers! --Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2006 05:45 To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Jobs failing with error 50 Hi all, I am currently have some major issues with my NetBackup 5.1MP3A environment (running on Solaris systems) where ALL my jobs fail with an error 50 after random amounts of time. This includes both Active, and Queued jobs. Symantec has told me they think it is a network related issue between my master server and my media server, and to put all the IP addresses of my media servers in the /etc/hosts file (which I have done), but the jobs still fail. Things may work OK for a few hours, and some of my jobs complete, but then all of a sudden, all jobs fail with an error 50. Anyone have any thoughts on this, or seen it before. One a related issue (I think), we are also getting jobs Queued for 1 hour and then failing with 219 errors, even though other jobs may be going to the same storage unit successfully. The 1 Hour timeout is due to a bpsched parameter somewhere, but why do the jobs sit in the Queued state and then after this timeout, fail with a 219 error? Any help on any of this would be very appreciated. This has been going on for over a week now, and we do not seem to be getting very far Ian Fehring Lead Technical Specialist, Storage Management National Australia Bank Level 1, 122 Lewis Rd Tel: +61 (0) 3 9886 2367 | Fax: +61 (0) 3 9886 2700 | Mob: +61 (0)417 520 953 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Australia Bank Limited - ACN 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by replying to the sender, and then destroy all copies of this email. Except where this email indicates otherwise, views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not of National Australia Bank Limited. Advice in this email does not take account of your objectives, financial situation, or needs. It is important for you to consider these matters and, if the e-mail refers to a product(s), you should read the relevant Product Disclosure Statement(s)/other disclosure document(s) before making any decisions. If you do not want email marketing from us in future, forward this email with unsubscribe in the subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order to stop marketing emails from this sender. National Australia Bank Limited does not represent that this email is free of errors, viruses or interference ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England
[Veritas-bu] Restore tape is being requested on the wrong tape library
I have a restore that is requesting 6tapes, the 1st tape is loaded from tape library 2 and runs fine then the second tape gets requested from tape library 2 also even though the second tape is intape library 1. The tape may have been in that library at one time but it is now in our off-site library(tape library 1)and the followingcommands verify that is in the off-site library. Everything shows robot 1 hastape S00054. Any ideas how I can make this restore look for each tape in its correct library? Thanks for any help. Pat The admin GUI shows it in slot 154 of robot "1" vmquery -m xxx bpmedialist -m xxx 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id B00189 is needed for the restore. (Tape library 2) 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00054 is needed for the restore.(Tape library 1)09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00106 is needed for the restore.09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00104 is needed for the restore.09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00274 is needed for the restore.
RE: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query
Put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES at the policy file list. Put all your drives at the exclude list (c:\ d:\ e:\ m:\ n:\ system_state) Put m:\*.trk n:\*.trk m:\*.bak and n:\*.bak I suggest not starting any exclude and including lists with * stefanos -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:40 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query Guys im mailing on behalf of a colleague who works on the windows side of the fence. He asked me this question about netbackup but i wasnt too sure on how it would behave. He basically wants to backup *.trk and *.bak ( i think cant remember ) on a couple few drives. Now he cant put m:\*.trk and m:\*.bak because that will just backup those files in the root of m:\ right? He has ought about doing this :- put in the policy file list *.trk and *.bak hoping this will backup all instances no matter what directory or mount point. Then in the exclude_list put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and in the include_list put m:\ n:\ Hes hoping this will backup *.trk anywhere under m:\ and n:\ Has anyone any idea if this will work or if the include_list overrides the policy file lists and everything under m:\ will be backed up? Cheers Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query
Dave H sounds complicated, but looking at the SysAdmin guide, you may be best to specify the drives that WANT to be backed up within your current policy (or a new policy, depending on what your overall goal is). Now, reading this it sounds like you specify the file extension (ie: *.bat) that need to be backed up, but EXCLUDE the root drive letters - which I guess in your case maybe C:\, E:\ Ok now im confused reading this :-(( But it sounds like it MAY work, although being totally honest, never tried it!! I would suggest setting up a TEST POLICY and see if it works out perhaps? Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2006 13:40 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query Guys im mailing on behalf of a colleague who works on the windows side of the fence. He asked me this question about netbackup but i wasnt too sure on how it would behave. He basically wants to backup *.trk and *.bak ( i think cant remember ) on a couple few drives. Now he cant put m:\*.trk and m:\*.bak because that will just backup those files in the root of m:\ right? He has ought about doing this :- put in the policy file list *.trk and *.bak hoping this will backup all instances no matter what directory or mount point. Then in the exclude_list put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and in the include_list put m:\ n:\ Hes hoping this will backup *.trk anywhere under m:\ and n:\ Has anyone any idea if this will work or if the include_list overrides the policy file lists and everything under m:\ will be backed up? Cheers Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query
WEAVER, Simon wrote: Dave H sounds complicated, but looking at the SysAdmin guide, you may be best to specify the drives that WANT to be backed up within your current policy (or a new policy, depending on what your overall goal is). Now, reading this it sounds like you specify the file extension (ie: *.bat) that need to be backed up, but EXCLUDE the root drive letters - which I guess in your case maybe C:\, E:\ Ok now im confused reading this :-(( But it sounds like it MAY work, although being totally honest, never tried it!! I would suggest setting up a TEST POLICY and see if it works out perhaps? Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2006 13:40 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query Guys im mailing on behalf of a colleague who works on the windows side of the fence. He asked me this question about netbackup but i wasnt too sure on how it would behave. He basically wants to backup *.trk and *.bak ( i think cant remember ) on a couple few drives. Now he cant put m:\*.trk and m:\*.bak because that will just backup those files in the root of m:\ right? He has ought about doing this :- put in the policy file list *.trk and *.bak hoping this will backup all instances no matter what directory or mount point. Then in the exclude_list put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and in the include_list put m:\ n:\ Hes hoping this will backup *.trk anywhere under m:\ and n:\ Has anyone any idea if this will work or if the include_list overrides the policy file lists and everything under m:\ will be backed up? Cheers Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England I think problem with putting m:\*.bak it will only backup files matching *.bak within the root of m: If i want m:\something\somethingelse\*.bak it wont be captured. Bit of strange request i know. It seems to have worked putting all_local_drives in and then excludeing *.* and including *.bak but i can think this will have a performance hit. The issue is we dont know what partitions have the *.bak files on it as they are san attached volumes and the DB guys could put them anywhere. Need a policy to to try and capture them without specifying too much. Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query
Maybe the DB guys need to place .bak files onto a SAN volume to make backups easier to manage? Hopefully something will work out, and yes, I guess more time will be spent scanning the server(s) looking for these files rather than actually spending the time probably backing it up :-) Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2006 15:46 To: WEAVER, Simon Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query WEAVER, Simon wrote: Dave H sounds complicated, but looking at the SysAdmin guide, you may be best to specify the drives that WANT to be backed up within your current policy (or a new policy, depending on what your overall goal is). Now, reading this it sounds like you specify the file extension (ie: *.bat) that need to be backed up, but EXCLUDE the root drive letters - which I guess in your case maybe C:\, E:\ Ok now im confused reading this :-(( But it sounds like it MAY work, although being totally honest, never tried it!! I would suggest setting up a TEST POLICY and see if it works out perhaps? Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2006 13:40 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query Guys im mailing on behalf of a colleague who works on the windows side of the fence. He asked me this question about netbackup but i wasnt too sure on how it would behave. He basically wants to backup *.trk and *.bak ( i think cant remember ) on a couple few drives. Now he cant put m:\*.trk and m:\*.bak because that will just backup those files in the root of m:\ right? He has ought about doing this :- put in the policy file list *.trk and *.bak hoping this will backup all instances no matter what directory or mount point. Then in the exclude_list put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and in the include_list put m:\ n:\ Hes hoping this will backup *.trk anywhere under m:\ and n:\ Has anyone any idea if this will work or if the include_list overrides the policy file lists and everything under m:\ will be backed up? Cheers Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England I think problem with putting m:\*.bak it will only backup files matching *.bak within the root of m: If i want m:\something\somethingelse\*.bak it wont be captured. Bit of strange request i know. It seems to have worked putting all_local_drives in and then excludeing *.* and including *.bak but i can think this will have a performance hit. The issue is we dont know what partitions have the *.bak files on it as they are san attached volumes and the DB guys could put them anywhere. Need a policy to to try and capture them without specifying too much. Dave This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] only temorarily de-commissioning a media server
Hi everyone, You can try setting/creating the timeouts similar to what I use below on your master and other media servers. I backup approximately 16 to 20 terabytes of data each night and I have to have extended timeouts so clients don't fail due to long waits in queue for a drive. After making the changes you will need to run /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/./bprdreq -rereadconfig You may need to run the rereadconfig several times, and it may still take stopping and starting the Netbackup services before it to take effect. CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT = 1800 CLIENT_CONNECT_TIMEOUT = 300 LOCKED_FILE_ACTION = SKIP WAIT_IN_QUEUE TIMEOUT_IN_QUEUE = 300 Thanks, Judi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Stump Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:20 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] only temorarily de-commissioning a media server How can I minimize the effect of a media server temporarily ( 1 week) being out of commission in an SSO SAN environment? I do not want to take any action that would require stop/starting netbackup. Perhaps I could change some timeouts?? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query
There will definitely be a performance hit. All wildcards are expensive but that's the price you pay for easy-to-manage. How about finding all files with these extensions, writing them to a file, then backing-up the file-of-files with bpbackup and the -f option? dir m:\*.trk n:\*.bak m:\*.trk n:\*.bak /s /b /fileoffiles.txt bpbackup -f /fileoffiles.txt -p policy -s ubak_sched -L /temp/logfile.txt That'd be efficient, anyway. -M (watch out for line-wrap above, my server does it without my permission) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:46 AM To: WEAVER, Simon Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query WEAVER, Simon wrote: Dave H sounds complicated, but looking at the SysAdmin guide, you may be best to specify the drives that WANT to be backed up within your current policy (or a new policy, depending on what your overall goal is). Now, reading this it sounds like you specify the file extension (ie: *.bat) that need to be backed up, but EXCLUDE the root drive letters - which I guess in your case maybe C:\, E:\ Ok now im confused reading this :-(( But it sounds like it MAY work, although being totally honest, never tried it!! I would suggest setting up a TEST POLICY and see if it works out perhaps? Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2006 13:40 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] exclude, include query Guys im mailing on behalf of a colleague who works on the windows side of the fence. He asked me this question about netbackup but i wasnt too sure on how it would behave. He basically wants to backup *.trk and *.bak ( i think cant remember ) on a couple few drives. Now he cant put m:\*.trk and m:\*.bak because that will just backup those files in the root of m:\ right? He has ought about doing this :- put in the policy file list *.trk and *.bak hoping this will backup all instances no matter what directory or mount point. Then in the exclude_list put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and in the include_list put m:\ n:\ Hes hoping this will backup *.trk anywhere under m:\ and n:\ Has anyone any idea if this will work or if the include_list overrides the policy file lists and everything under m:\ will be backed up? Cheers Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England I think problem with putting m:\*.bak it will only backup files matching *.bak within the root of m: If i want m:\something\somethingelse\*.bak it wont be captured. Bit of strange request i know. It seems to have worked putting all_local_drives in and then excludeing *.* and including *.bak but i can think this will have a performance hit. The issue is we dont know what partitions have the *.bak files on it as they are san attached volumes and the DB guys could put them anywhere. Need a policy to to try and capture them without specifying too much. Dave ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Restore tape is being requested on the wrong tape library
Hi Patricia, from my understanding of your problem I think Mark's suggested reason is a red herring. I think the reason you do not understand the behaviour being exhibited is you have made some false assumptions about the logic NBU uses when performing a restore. The logic which causes this is very simple, NBU will always attempt to restore an image from the media server that performed the backup unless forced to do otherwise. So when u kick of the restore if the tape is not present in a library which is connected to the media server (it doesnt have to be in the same library so long as its in a library connected to the same original media server) that performed the backup then it will sit there until you manually insert the required tape(s). If you want to perform the restore from another media server you must use the FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER option in the master server bp.conf. But be careful as this option will force ALL restores to the alternate media server until you remove/undo the setting, thanks Andy. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_=_NextPart_001_01C646B9.06174B39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The restore is not managed by what library owns the tape. A restore, by = default, requests all tapes that contain the *primary* image for the = data to be restored regardless of the location of the tape. If this = offsite tape contains copies of images that are also on local tapes, = then you need to change the onsite copies to be marked as the primary = copies. =20 There's a bpchangeprimary command for this. =20 Depending on how you might be creating the copy, you can manage the = primary tape designation using Vault, ITC, or bpduplicate. =20 -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patricia = Harmon Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:13 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restore tape is being requested on the wrong tape = library I have a restore that is requesting 6 tapes, the 1st tape is loaded from = tape library 2 and runs fine then the second tape gets requested from = tape library 2 also even though the second tape is in tape library 1. = The tape may have been in that library at one time but it is now in our = off-site library(tape library 1) and the following commands verify that = is in the off-site library. Everything shows robot 1 has tape S00054.=20 =20 Any ideas how I can make this restore look for each tape in its correct = library? =20 Thanks for any help. Pat=20 =20 The admin GUI shows it in slot 154 of robot 1 =20 vmquery -m xxx =20 bpmedialist -m xxx =20 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id B00189 is needed for the restore. (Tape = library 2)=20 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00054 is needed for the restore. (Tape = library 1) 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00106 is needed for the restore. 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00104 is needed for the restore. 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00274 is needed for the restore. --_=_NextPart_001_01C646B9.06174B39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=3DContent-Type CONTENT=3Dtext/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1 META content=3DMSHTML 6.00.2800.1515 name=3DGENERATOR/HEAD BODY style=3DMARGIN: 4px 4px 1px; FONT: 10pt Tahoma DIVSPAN class=3D518450616-13032006The restore is not managed by what = library=20 owns the tape.nbsp; A restore, by default, requests all tapes that = contain the=20 *primary* image for the data to be restored regardless of the location = of the=20 tape.nbsp; If this offsite tape contains copies of images that are also = onnbsp;local tapes, then you need to change the onsite copies to be = marked as=20 the primary copies./SPAN/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D518450616-13032006/SPANnbsp;/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D518450616-13032006There's a bpchangeprimary = command for=""> this./SPAN/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D518450616-13032006/SPANnbsp;/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D518450616-13032006Depending on how you might be = creating the=20 copy, you can manage the primary tape designation using Vault, ITC, or = bpduplicate./SPAN/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D518450616-13032006/SPANnbsp;/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D518450616-13032006-M/SPAN/DIV BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3DMARGIN-RIGHT: 0px DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft-Original = Message-BRBFrom:/B [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]BOn Behalf Of = /BPatricia=20 HarmonBRBSent:/B Monday, March 13, 2006 8:13 AMBRBTo:/B=20 veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduBRBSubject:/B [Veritas-bu] = Restore tape=20 is being requested on the wrong tape libraryBRBR/DIV DIVI have a restore that is requesting 6nbsp;tapes, the 1st tape is = loaded=20 from tape library 2 and runs fine then the second tape gets requested = from=20 tape library 2 also even though the second
RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup and VXSS
Tried it at version 5.1MP3. Eventually got a note from Symantec saying that they were giving up implementing it in our environment. It produced a quite noticeable amount of lag accessing the GUIs, and since they weren't able to get AD to work here it would've required managing 60-odd users' permissions on each of our ~30 masters. Most of the problems are apparently slated to be fixed in NetBackup 6.5. For us anyway, it wasn't worth the headache or the time wasted. I'll also say I haven't seen anyone yet post to the list that they're using it and it works. =) YMMV of course. - John Nardello -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mkiles Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:44 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup and VXSS I just want to check if there are users using VxSS and Netbackup? What benfit does VXSS give, is it worth the headaches? Also is there a some simple docs to read on VxSS, the sysadmin manuals are a drag. TIA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] backing up databases
Hi Dave, Assuming you have to follow this method its not a problem so long as: 1) you don't mind having root level passwordless access from the master/media server to the clients host (via rsh or ssh public/private keys). 2) you don't mind having restore over the network, or you don't mind having to manually move the backup disk between media server and client. The backup will be of the media server where u mount the backup disk, so that is where you need to code your notify scripts to do the necessary disk mount/unmounting cheers Andy. Ok, been tasked with giving my input on a backup solution for a new project. Someone had designed it to start backing up things using scripts from cron calling other scripts and then netbackup bpbackup commands and all sorts of random junk. Anyway assume we are talking Solaris 8 or 9 with fiber attached units. The question i have which was from the original design ( and i guess still a requirement ) is how do people go around backing up database volumes. I myself have had dbas ( running oracle ) to do hot_archives and then backup that. The hot_archives are called from bpstart_notify so are captured within netbackup if they take too long or if they fail. I can also do some checking if directories exist etc before running the oracle backup. Also have the added benefit of not writing to tape until exit call from hot_archive which means db backup has finished. Ok, thats one way, the other way i do on another project is use SSO option on the database servers which have dedicated HBA's through fiber to the tape units and shared drives. I just point at a location and assume everything in there is ready to be backed up. This project is slightly different and the DBA's are responsible for the backup. The way this new project is wanting to go is by mounting a storage volume ( disk ) on the db server and writing a backup to it. then unmounting it and then mounting it on the backup server to be written to tape directly. What i want to know is how ( if we have to go this route ) can i control this within netbackup and not start backups unless mount and unmount requests have been done? Do i have bpstart scripts on the db servers, which do the mounts, then the oracle backups and then the unmounts. If this fails can i send something back through bpstart so the backup doesnt run and fails with a certain netbackup code? The benefit of the mount, unmount is so the resource is not used on the db servers to do backups, but im not sure how i am going to control the process within netbackup to capture any errors. So has anyone done anything similar which they can advise with?? Thanks Dave
RE: [Veritas-bu] only temorarily de-commissioning a media server
What I've done in the past is just change any policy using a storage unit for that media server to use a different one. Later, I just changed it back. You can also set the available drive count for that storage unit to 0 do a bpschedreq -read_stu_config . It's supposed to work to reread the storage units but I've had limited success with that. If there's a risk to the media server's filesystems, you might want to move their media db (bpmedia -movedb) to another media server. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Stump Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:20 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] only temorarily de-commissioning a media server How can I minimize the effect of a media server temporarily ( 1 week) being out of commission in an SSO SAN environment? I do not want to take any action that would require stop/starting netbackup. Perhaps I could change some timeouts?? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Restore tape is being requested on the wrong tape library
Pat, As long as youre are using the same Master/Media servers and your tape library drives can be seen from the media server doing the restore, you should only have to re-inventory library 1 and 2. This will sync your volume database on all the servers. Thanks, Judi Gordon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia Harmon Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:13 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restore tape is being requested on the wrong tape library I have a restore that is requesting 6tapes, the 1st tape is loaded from tape library 2 and runs fine then the second tape gets requested from tape library 2 also even though the second tape is intape library 1. The tape may have been in that library at one time but it is now in our off-site library(tape library 1)and the followingcommands verify that is in the off-site library. Everything shows robot 1 hastape S00054. Any ideas how I can make this restore look for each tape in its correct library? Thanks for any help. Pat The admin GUI shows it in slot 154 of robot 1 vmquery -m xxx bpmedialist -m xxx 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id B00189 is needed for the restore. (Tape library 2) 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00054 is needed for the restore.(Tape library 1) 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00106 is needed for the restore. 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00104 is needed for the restore. 09:06:57 (477880.xxx) Media id S00274 is needed for the restore.
Re: [Veritas-bu] Migrating NBU Enterprise from Unix to Windows
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:20:19AM -0600, Horn, Brian wrote: We have Netbackup Enterprise. Master server is an old, nearly end-of-supported-life Unix machine. We also have a newer Windows media server. Currently, all the tape drives are connected to the Windows media server, and nothing to the Master. [Master and media servers both at 5.1MP4] I'd like to migrate -everything- to a brand spanking new Windows box. [At 6.0MP1] It looks like bprecover with the -dhost won't work for my needs since as I read it, it won't move the Unix image to Windows. The Veritas docs I've found so far indicate that we either need to contract services with them for the migration, or do a clean break from the past and import any images that may be needed later for restores. Cross-architecture migrations are possible (we went from a Windows master to a Solaris master under 3.4) but they're horribly ugly. Veritas absolutely right in that professional services should be used. I can't imagine going the other way... We did it ourselves but we took a couple of cracks at it with good admins. Is there a 3rd option? Would a standalone drive mounted to the old Master server work for restores? Yup. The downside, however, is that you would have to buy another master server license or upgrade your current Windows media server to a master server. You also need to remember forever what your cutover date was so that you know which master to ask for a restore. If you really don't want to upgrade the Unix master (you could replace it with a newer model, even it if refurb'ed) you could make your Windows server a master too along with the existing Unix master and a standalone drive. Then import your tapes over time so that eventually you retire the old Unix box. I've seen people say it takes a day or two per tape for the import so you can the math to see if that's reasonable or not. The longer it takes you, the more likely it is that you'll expire some images so work your way from your oldest images to the newest and you'll overlap somewhere in the middle. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] only temorarily de-commissioning a media server
I assume you don't want any backups that this media Server would be responsible for to be carried out by this Media Server? What about changing the Backup Policy to the Master Server? (ie: storage unit) ? Minimal effort and backups should still run, as long as the server has permissions to back it up Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bob Stump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2006 15:20 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] only temorarily de-commissioning a media server How can I minimize the effect of a media server temporarily ( 1 week) being out of commission in an SSO SAN environment? I do not want to take any action that would require stop/starting netbackup. Perhaps I could change some timeouts?? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Migrating NBU Enterprise from Unix to Windows
Brian What I done was migrate the Netbackup Clients over to a newly created Netbackup Master Server. The old one was still in production (Netbackup 3.4) at the time and the new Master uses the Robotic Library. Clients were set to allow the new Server to perform backups after client upgrades carried out. Although the old box is still available (purely for any restores past 6 months), it will soon be shutdown as the new Master has been up and running for 6 months itself on a new Win2k3 Server 5.1 MP3 Worked for us ! And worse case, I could always import the old tapes if I really, really had to! (So far no restores have been asked for on the legacy kit) Another option I also done was a few years back, upgrade an old NT Server to a FASTER box - I built the Server with the same spec as the old, same name, IP address, ect The migration method was only available from NBU 4.5 onwards from what I recall... Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Horn, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2006 16:20 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Migrating NBU Enterprise from Unix to Windows We have Netbackup Enterprise. Master server is an old, nearly end-of-supported-life Unix machine. We also have a newer Windows media server. Currently, all the tape drives are connected to the Windows media server, and nothing to the Master. [Master and media servers both at 5.1MP4] I'd like to migrate -everything- to a brand spanking new Windows box. [At 6.0MP1] It looks like bprecover with the -dhost won't work for my needs since as I read it, it won't move the Unix image to Windows. The Veritas docs I've found so far indicate that we either need to contract services with them for the migration, or do a clean break from the past and import any images that may be needed later for restores. Is there a 3rd option? Would a standalone drive mounted to the old Master server work for restores? Thank you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup and VXSS
Its not worth the headache. Sorry, the SysAdmin guides are where I am going to point you Or try a friend... Like google? Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: mkiles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2006 15:44 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup and VXSS I just want to check if there are users using VxSS and Netbackup? What benfit does VXSS give, is it worth the headaches? Also is there a some simple docs to read on VxSS, the sysadmin manuals are a drag. TIA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
