Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-29 Thread Robinson, Greg
Could you try upgrading the version of the filesystem to the maximum
supported by your volume manager version?
 
Greg.



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem


After the evacuation I'm left with 2 x 200GB disks in the volume.
Disk_160 is 79% used  Disk_161 is 20% used and the volume still refuses
to shrink giving me the same error as before. I've started defrag again
in the hopes that it will this time allow me to shrink the volume. Ideas
 suggestions are most welcome. 


On 6/28/07, Khurram Tariq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Gentlemen,

I've started the evacuation to Disk_161. Like Robert said Disk_1
is the first disk of the volume. This way I'll be making either Disk_161
the first disk (hopefully)  will be able to take Disk_160 or 161 out of
the volume leaving one 200GB disk in there. 

Lets see how it goes.

Khurram


On 6/28/07, Smedley, Jeremy P  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 



It could be that the file system is too busy for the
fsadm section of the command (which has the problem) to complete its
move of certain blocks. This is more likely due to the fact that the
majority of the data in the volume is on the first subdisk. 

You could try the following approach if it is feasible
in your environment.

Take the application offline which is accessing data on
this volume (user impact can not be avoided)

Repeat the defrag whilst the volume is quiesced.
Repeat the vxresize request whilst the volume is
quiesced.. 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
behalf of Khurram Tariq 
Sent: Thu 6/28/2007 2:44 PM 

To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem






I had thought of it but the size of the volume is
slightly larger than the capacity of Disk_161 so mirroring wont be
possible. Size of the volume visible in VEA is 200.970GB  Disk_161 is
199.980GB.




On 6/28/07, Weber, Klaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

possible solution could be
Create a mirror using disk_161
remove both disk_1 and disk_160 from mirror
shrink volume  to desired size
attach mirror consisting of disk_160
remove disk_161 from mirror
all this should be possible whilst the
volume is started
 
Klaus



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Agreed but I can also evacuate Disk_1 if I had
enough free space on Disk_160. This is why I'm decreasing the volume by
2GB so I can have sufficient unused space on Disk_160  a subdisk can be
created there to accomodate Disk_1's evacuation. The output of vxdg free
is: 

$ vxdg -g oraappdg free
DISK DEVICE   TAG  OFFSET
LENGTHFLAGS
oraappdg01   Disk_0   Disk_0   85946368
1792  -
oraappdg02   Disk_1   Disk_1   85946368
1792  - 
oraappdg03   Disk_11  Disk_11  106917888
1792  -
oraappdg04   Disk_12  Disk_12  44003328
1792  -
oraappdg05   Disk_160 Disk_160 335511984
83883344  -
oraappdg06   Disk_161 Disk_161 0
419395328 - 


Disk_1 has 896KB free (99% used), this is why
its showing up in the output above.

What do you guys advise? I dont want to use
Disk_161 and then have a 200GB disk stuck in that volume.

Regards, 
Khurram


On 6/28/07, robertinoau
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

So from this output:

v  ccbappl  -ENABLED
ACTIVE

Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-29 Thread James Slater
Hi Khurram,

 

Have you tried stopping the application yet  then running fsadm? What
version of storage foundation are you running?

 

Regards,

 

James.

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

 

Upgraded the dg version, ran defrag again (used fsadm --F vxfs -d -e
/filesystem) and still the result of fsadm -D /filesystem is the same as
before (see below)  vxresize does not work:


  Directory Fragmentation Report
 DirsTotal  ImmedImmeds   Dirs to   Blocks
to
 SearchedBlocks Dirs to Add   ReduceReduce
  total   427 30113   1992129
604


Now I'm out of ideas, so gentlemen...please help.



On 6/29/07, Robinson, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Could you try upgrading the version of the filesystem to the maximum
supported by your volume manager version?

 

Greg.

 



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Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 2:24 PM


To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem



 

After the evacuation I'm left with 2 x 200GB disks in the volume.
Disk_160 is 79% used  Disk_161 is 20% used and the volume still refuses
to shrink giving me the same error as before. I've started defrag again
in the hopes that it will this time allow me to shrink the volume. Ideas
 suggestions are most welcome. 

On 6/28/07, Khurram Tariq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Gentlemen,

I've started the evacuation to Disk_161. Like Robert said Disk_1 is the
first disk of the volume. This way I'll be making either Disk_161 the
first disk (hopefully)  will be able to take Disk_160 or 161 out of the
volume leaving one 200GB disk in there. 

Lets see how it goes.

Khurram

On 6/28/07, Smedley, Jeremy P  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

It could be that the file system is too busy for the fsadm
section of the command (which has the problem) to complete its move of
certain blocks. This is more likely due to the fact that the majority of
the data in the volume is on the first subdisk. 

You could try the following approach if it is feasible in your
environment.

Take the application offline which is accessing data on this
volume (user impact can not be avoided)

Repeat the defrag whilst the volume is quiesced.
Repeat the vxresize request whilst the volume is quiesced.. 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
Khurram Tariq 
Sent: Thu 6/28/2007 2:44 PM 


To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

 

I had thought of it but the size of the volume is slightly
larger than the capacity of Disk_161 so mirroring wont be possible. Size
of the volume visible in VEA is 200.970GB  Disk_161 is 199.980GB.




On 6/28/07, Weber, Klaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

possible solution could be

Create a mirror using disk_161

remove both disk_1 and disk_160 from mirror

shrink volume  to desired size

attach mirror consisting of disk_160

remove disk_161 from mirror

all this should be possible whilst the volume is started

 

Klaus

 





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Betreff: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

Agreed but I can also evacuate Disk_1 if I had enough free space
on Disk_160. This is why I'm decreasing the volume by 2GB so I can have
sufficient unused space on Disk_160  a subdisk can be created there to
accomodate Disk_1's evacuation. The output of vxdg free is: 

$ vxdg -g oraappdg free
DISK DEVICE   TAG  OFFSETLENGTHFLAGS
oraappdg01   Disk_0   Disk_0   85946368  1792  -
oraappdg02   Disk_1   Disk_1   85946368  1792  - 
oraappdg03   Disk_11  Disk_11  106917888 1792  -
oraappdg04   Disk_12  Disk_12  44003328  1792  -
oraappdg05   Disk_160 Disk_160 335511984 83883344  -
oraappdg06   Disk_161 Disk_161 0 419395328 - 


Disk_1 has 896KB free (99% used), this is why its showing up in
the output above.

What do you guys advise? I dont want to use Disk_161 and then
have a 200GB disk stuck in that volume.

Regards, 
Khurram

On 6/28/07, robertinoau [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

So from this output:

v  ccbappl  -ENABLED  ACTIVE

Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-29 Thread Myers, Mike
It's been out experience that fsadm will not reorganize extents of files
that are open by an application.  Thus, if you have even one extent of a
file in the area you wish to reclaim and that file is open, you must
shut down your application (or otherwise get it to close the file) to do
the fsadm -e command.  In this case fuser -c and lsof are your
friends.

It would be really nice if Veritas included commands to assist with
identification of the file and/or if the fsadm told you all this.  It
doesn't seem like it should be TOO difficult a utility to write...

Cheers,
 - Mike.Myers at nwdc.net 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tariq
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:01 AM
To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

Upgraded the dg version, ran defrag again (used fsadm --F vxfs -d -e
/filesystem) and still the result of fsadm -D /filesystem is the same as
before (see below)  vxresize does not work:


  Directory Fragmentation Report
 DirsTotal  ImmedImmeds   Dirs to   Blocks
to
 SearchedBlocks Dirs to Add   ReduceReduce
  total   427 30113   1992129
604


Now I'm out of ideas, so gentlemen...please help.



On 6/29/07, Robinson, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Could you try upgrading the version of the filesystem to the
maximum supported by your volume manager version?
 
Greg.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Khurram
Tariq
Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 2:24 PM

To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem



After the evacuation I'm left with 2 x 200GB disks in the
volume. Disk_160 is 79% used  Disk_161 is 20% used and the volume still
refuses to shrink giving me the same error as before. I've started
defrag again in the hopes that it will this time allow me to shrink the
volume. Ideas  suggestions are most welcome. 


On 6/28/07, Khurram Tariq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Gentlemen,

I've started the evacuation to Disk_161. Like Robert
said Disk_1 is the first disk of the volume. This way I'll be making
either Disk_161 the first disk (hopefully)  will be able to take
Disk_160 or 161 out of the volume leaving one 200GB disk in there. 

Lets see how it goes.

Khurram


On 6/28/07, Smedley, Jeremy P  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 



It could be that the file system is too busy for
the fsadm section of the command (which has the problem) to complete its
move of certain blocks. This is more likely due to the fact that the
majority of the data in the volume is on the first subdisk. 

You could try the following approach if it is
feasible in your environment.

Take the application offline which is accessing
data on this volume (user impact can not be avoided)

Repeat the defrag whilst the volume is quiesced.
Repeat the vxresize request whilst the volume is
quiesced.. 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on behalf of Khurram Tariq 
Sent: Thu 6/28/2007 2:44 PM 

To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem






I had thought of it but the size of the volume
is slightly larger than the capacity of Disk_161 so mirroring wont be
possible. Size of the volume visible in VEA is 200.970GB  Disk_161 is
199.980GB.




On 6/28/07, Weber, Klaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 

possible solution could be
Create a mirror using disk_161
remove both disk_1 and disk_160 from
mirror
shrink volume  to desired size
attach mirror consisting of disk_160
remove disk_161 from mirror
all this should be possible whilst
the volume is started
 
Klaus



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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Khurram Tariq
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15:23

Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-29 Thread James Slater
Hi Mike,

This is what I was trying to allude to in my mail earlier. In the older
versions of SF it was sometimes not possible to move certain application
files due to them being memory mapped (Oracle in particular). However,
this has been fixed for the later releases of storage foundation.
Rearranging the volume layout will not help - this is purely at a file
system level.

Regards,

James.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-vx-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myers, Mike
 Sent: 29 June 2007 16:01
 To: Khurram Tariq; veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem
 
 It's been out experience that fsadm will not reorganize extents of
files
 that are open by an application.  Thus, if you have even one extent of
a
 file in the area you wish to reclaim and that file is open, you must
 shut down your application (or otherwise get it to close the file) to
do
 the fsadm -e command.  In this case fuser -c and lsof are your
 friends.
 
 It would be really nice if Veritas included commands to assist with
 identification of the file and/or if the fsadm told you all this.  It
 doesn't seem like it should be TOO difficult a utility to write...
 
 Cheers,
  - Mike.Myers at nwdc.net
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Khurram
 Tariq
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:01 AM
 To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem
 
 Upgraded the dg version, ran defrag again (used fsadm --F vxfs -d -e
 /filesystem) and still the result of fsadm -D /filesystem is the same
as
 before (see below)  vxresize does not work:
 
 
   Directory Fragmentation Report
  DirsTotal  ImmedImmeds   Dirs to   Blocks
 to
  SearchedBlocks Dirs to Add   ReduceReduce
   total   427 30113   1992129
 604
 
 
 Now I'm out of ideas, so gentlemen...please help.
 
 
 
 On 6/29/07, Robinson, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Could you try upgrading the version of the filesystem to the
 maximum supported by your volume manager version?
 
   Greg.
 
 
 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Khurram
 Tariq
   Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 2:24 PM
 
   To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
   Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem
 
 
 
   After the evacuation I'm left with 2 x 200GB disks in the
 volume. Disk_160 is 79% used  Disk_161 is 20% used and the volume
still
 refuses to shrink giving me the same error as before. I've started
 defrag again in the hopes that it will this time allow me to shrink
the
 volume. Ideas  suggestions are most welcome.
 
 
   On 6/28/07, Khurram Tariq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Gentlemen,
 
   I've started the evacuation to Disk_161. Like Robert
 said Disk_1 is the first disk of the volume. This way I'll be making
 either Disk_161 the first disk (hopefully)  will be able to take
 Disk_160 or 161 out of the volume leaving one 200GB disk in there.
 
   Lets see how it goes.
 
   Khurram
 
 
   On 6/28/07, Smedley, Jeremy P  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 
   It could be that the file system is too busy for
 the fsadm section of the command (which has the problem) to complete
its
 move of certain blocks. This is more likely due to the fact that the
 majority of the data in the volume is on the first subdisk.
 
   You could try the following approach if it is
 feasible in your environment.
 
   Take the application offline which is accessing
 data on this volume (user impact can not be avoided)
 
   Repeat the defrag whilst the volume is quiesced.
   Repeat the vxresize request whilst the volume is
 quiesced..
 
 
 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 on behalf of Khurram Tariq
   Sent: Thu 6/28/2007 2:44 PM
 
   To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
   Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem
 
 
 
 
 
 
   I had thought of it but the size of the volume
 is slightly larger than the capacity of Disk_161 so mirroring wont be
 possible. Size of the volume visible in VEA is 200.970GB  Disk_161 is
 199.980GB.
 
 
 
 
   On 6/28/07, Weber, Klaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   possible solution could be
   Create a mirror using disk_161
   remove both disk_1 and disk_160 from
 mirror
   shrink volume  to desired size
   attach mirror consisting of disk_160
   remove disk_161 from mirror
   all

Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-29 Thread James Slater
Hi Mike,

No worries, the problem relating to mmap'd files was fixed in 4.0MP2.

Regards,

James.

 -Original Message-
 From: Myers, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 29 June 2007 17:45
 To: James Slater; Khurram Tariq; veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: RE: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem
 
 Hey, inside information, great stuff :)
 
 Do you know at what level this was addressed?  It would make a great
 incentive to upgrade :)
 
 Cheers,
  - Mike.Myers at nwdc.net
 -Original Message-
 From: James Slater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:43 AM
 To: Myers, Mike; Khurram Tariq; veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: RE: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 This is what I was trying to allude to in my mail earlier. In the
older
 versions of SF it was sometimes not possible to move certain
application
 files due to them being memory mapped (Oracle in particular). However,
 this has been fixed for the later releases of storage foundation.
 Rearranging the volume layout will not help - this is purely at a file
 system level.
 
 Regards,
 
 James.

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Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-28 Thread Smedley, Jeremy P
Can you provide a vxprint -th of the volume please.




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Robinson, Greg
Sent: 28 June 2007 06:49
To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem


Hi all,
 
could you perhaps evacuate the data from the 40GB LUN to some
temporary space, then remove the 40GB LUN, then shrink the volume and
then remove the temporary space?
 
Another option maybe is to mirror to other LUNS and then try and
shrink and remove...
 
Are there any disk errors showing up in messages?
 
Greg.



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem


Nopes. It has always been VxFS. Defrag didnt help either and
decreasing the size in chunks as small as 1GB isnt working either.
Initially this FS was 440GB  had 2 x 200GB LUNs  1 x 40GB. Resize
worked day before yesterday  I was able to free up one 200GB LUN out of
the volume but its not working now. 

Regards,
Khurram


On 6/27/07, Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 I have a 201GB volume which is composed of two LUNs
(40GB  200GB). Now I
 want to free up the 40GB LUN from that volume by
shrinking the volume to
 198GB but vxresize is giving me the following error: 

 UX:vxfs fsadm: ERROR: V-3-20343: cannot shrink
/dev/vx/rdsk/some-dg/volumea
 - blocks are currently in use.
 VxVM vxresize ERROR V-5-1-7514 Problem running fsadm
command for volume
 volumea, in diskgroup some-dg 

This filesystem wasn't converted from UFS in the past,
was it?

--
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http://www.taos.com/
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Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-28 Thread Khurram Tariq

$ vxprint -ht ccbappl
Disk group: oraappdg

V  NAME RVG/VSET/CO  KSTATE   STATELENGTH   READPOL   PREFPLEX
UTYPE
PL NAME VOLUME   KSTATE   STATELENGTH   LAYOUTNCOL/WID
MODE
SD NAME PLEX DISK DISKOFFS LENGTH   [COL/]OFF DEVICE
MODE
SV NAME PLEX VOLNAME  NVOLLAYR LENGTH   [COL/]OFF AM/NM
MODE
SC NAME PLEX CACHEDISKOFFS LENGTH   [COL/]OFF DEVICE
MODE
DC NAME PARENTVOLLOGVOL
SP NAME SNAPVOL  DCO
EX NAME ASSOCVC   PERMSMODE
STATE
SR NAME KSTATE

v  ccbappl  -ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 SELECT   -
fsgen
pl ccbappl-01   ccbappl  ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 CONCAT   -
RW
sd oraappdg02-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg02 0  85946368 0 Disk_1
ENA
sd oraappdg05-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg05 0  335511984 85946368 Disk_160
ENA

On 6/28/07, Smedley, Jeremy P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Can you provide a vxprint -th of the volume please.

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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robinson, Greg
*Sent:* 28 June 2007 06:49
*To:* veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
*Subject:* Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

 Hi all,

could you perhaps evacuate the data from the 40GB LUN to some temporary
space, then remove the 40GB LUN, then shrink the volume and then remove the
temporary space?

Another option maybe is to mirror to other LUNS and then try and shrink
and remove...

Are there any disk errors showing up in messages?

Greg.

 --
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Khurram Tariq
*Sent:* Thursday, 28 June 2007 2:13 PM
*To:* veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
*Subject:* Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

Nopes. It has always been VxFS. Defrag didnt help either and decreasing
the size in chunks as small as 1GB isnt working either. Initially this FS
was 440GB  had 2 x 200GB LUNs  1 x 40GB. Resize worked day before
yesterday  I was able to free up one 200GB LUN out of the volume but its
not working now.

Regards,
Khurram

On 6/27/07, Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have a 201GB volume which is composed of two LUNs (40GB  200GB).
 Now I
  want to free up the 40GB LUN from that volume by shrinking the volume
 to
  198GB but vxresize is giving me the following error:
 
  UX:vxfs fsadm: ERROR: V-3-20343: cannot shrink
 /dev/vx/rdsk/some-dg/volumea
  - blocks are currently in use.
  VxVM vxresize ERROR V-5-1-7514 Problem running fsadm command for
 volume
  volumea, in diskgroup some-dg

 This filesystem wasn't converted from UFS in the past, was it?

 --
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 http://www.taos.com/
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Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-28 Thread robertinoau
So from this output:


v  ccbappl  -ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 SELECT   -fsgen
pl ccbappl-01   ccbappl  ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 CONCAT   -RW

sd oraappdg02-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg02 0  85946368 0 Disk_1   ENA

sd oraappdg05-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg05 0  335511984 85946368 Disk_160 ENA

Disk_1 starts at offset 0 and the size is 85946368,  so this is your 40G drive. 
 

So the problem here is this is a contact so you can't take out the 40G by 
shrinking the volume.  If you shrink the volume,  you will free up space on 
Disk_160 first  (it shrinks from the bottom up).  Understand what I am trying 
to say ?

If you do a vxdg free, I almost certain you won't see Disk_1 in the list.









- Original Message 
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To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Thursday, 28 June, 2007 5:17:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

$ vxprint -ht ccbappl
Disk group: oraappdg


V  NAME RVG/VSET/CO  KSTATE   STATELENGTH   READPOL   PREFPLEX UTYPE

PL NAME VOLUME   KSTATE   STATELENGTH   LAYOUTNCOL/WID MODE

SD NAME PLEX DISK DISKOFFS LENGTH   [COL/]OFF DEVICE   MODE
SV NAME PLEX VOLNAME  NVOLLAYR LENGTH   [COL/]OFF AM/NMMODE

SC NAME PLEX CACHEDISKOFFS LENGTH   [COL/]OFF DEVICE   MODE

DC NAME PARENTVOLLOGVOL
SP NAME SNAPVOL  DCO

EX NAME ASSOCVC   PERMSMODE STATE

SR NAME KSTATE


v  ccbappl  -ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 SELECT   -fsgen
pl ccbappl-01   ccbappl  ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 CONCAT   -RW

sd oraappdg02-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg02 0  85946368 0 Disk_1   ENA

sd oraappdg05-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg05 0  335511984 85946368 Disk_160 ENA

On 6/28/07, Smedley, Jeremy P
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Can you provide a vxprint -th of the volume 
please.



  
  
  From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Robinson, Greg
Sent: 28 June 2007 06:49
To: 
  veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize 
  problem




  

  Hi all,

   

  could you perhaps evacuate the data from the 40GB LUN to 
  some temporary space, then remove the 40GB LUN, then shrink the volume and 
  then remove the temporary space?

   

  Another option maybe is to mirror to other LUNS and then 
  try and shrink and remove...

   

  Are there any disk errors showing up in 
  messages?

   

  Greg.


  
  
  From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Khurram 
  Tariq
Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2007 2:13 PM
To: 
  veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize 
  problem



  
Nopes. It has always been VxFS. Defrag didnt help either and 
  decreasing the size in chunks as small as 1GB isnt working either. Initially 
  this FS was 440GB  had 2 x 200GB LUNs  1 x 40GB. Resize worked day 
  before yesterday  I was able to free up one 200GB LUN out of the volume 
  but its not working now. 

Regards,
Khurram


  On 6/27/07, Darren 
  Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
   
I have a 201GB volume which is composed of two LUNs (40GB  200GB). Now 
I
 want to free up the 40GB LUN from that volume by shrinking the 
volume to
 198GB but vxresize is giving me the following error: 


 UX:vxfs fsadm: ERROR: V-3-20343: cannot shrink 
/dev/vx/rdsk/some-dg/volumea
 - blocks are currently in use.
 
VxVM vxresize ERROR V-5-1-7514 Problem running fsadm command for 
volume
 volumea, in diskgroup some-dg 

This filesystem wasn't 
converted from UFS in the past, was it?

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Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-28 Thread Khurram Tariq

Agreed but I can also evacuate Disk_1 if I had enough free space on
Disk_160. This is why I'm decreasing the volume by 2GB so I can have
sufficient unused space on Disk_160  a subdisk can be created there to
accomodate Disk_1's evacuation. The output of vxdg free is:

$ vxdg -g oraappdg free
DISK DEVICE   TAG  OFFSETLENGTHFLAGS
oraappdg01   Disk_0   Disk_0   85946368  1792  -
oraappdg02   Disk_1   Disk_1   85946368  1792  -
oraappdg03   Disk_11  Disk_11  106917888 1792  -
oraappdg04   Disk_12  Disk_12  44003328  1792  -
oraappdg05   Disk_160 Disk_160 335511984 83883344  -
oraappdg06   Disk_161 Disk_161 0 419395328 -


Disk_1 has 896KB free (99% used), this is why its showing up in the output
above.

What do you guys advise? I dont want to use Disk_161 and then have a 200GB
disk stuck in that volume.

Regards,
Khurram

On 6/28/07, robertinoau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So from this output:

v  ccbappl  -ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 SELECT   -
fsgen
pl ccbappl-01   ccbappl  ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 CONCAT   -
RW
sd oraappdg02-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg02 0  85946368 0 Disk_1
ENA
sd oraappdg05-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg05 0  335511984 85946368 Disk_160
ENA

Disk_1 starts at offset 0 and the size is 85946368,  so this is your 40G
drive.

So the problem here is this is a contact so you can't take out the 40G by
shrinking the volume.  If you shrink the volume,  you will free up space on
Disk_160 first  (it shrinks from the bottom up).  Understand what I am
trying to say ?

If you do a vxdg free, I almost certain you won't see Disk_1 in the list.









- Original Message 
From: Khurram Tariq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Thursday, 28 June, 2007 5:17:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

$ vxprint -ht ccbappl
Disk group: oraappdg

V  NAME RVG/VSET/CO  KSTATE   STATELENGTH   READPOL   PREFPLEX
UTYPE
PL NAME VOLUME   KSTATE   STATELENGTH   LAYOUTNCOL/WID
MODE
SD NAME PLEX DISK DISKOFFS LENGTH   [COL/]OFF DEVICE
MODE
SV NAME PLEX VOLNAME  NVOLLAYR LENGTH   [COL/]OFF AM/NM
MODE
SC NAME PLEX CACHEDISKOFFS LENGTH   [COL/]OFF DEVICE
MODE
DC NAME PARENTVOLLOGVOL
SP NAME SNAPVOL  DCO
EX NAME ASSOCVC   PERMSMODE
STATE
SR NAME KSTATE

v  ccbappl  -ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 SELECT   -
fsgen
pl ccbappl-01   ccbappl  ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 CONCAT   -
RW
sd oraappdg02-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg02 0  85946368 0 Disk_1
ENA
sd oraappdg05-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg05 0  335511984 85946368 Disk_160
ENA

On 6/28/07, Smedley, Jeremy P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Can you provide a vxprint -th of the volume please.

   *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robinson, Greg
 *Sent:* 28 June 2007 06:49
 *To:* veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

  Hi all,

 could you perhaps evacuate the data from the 40GB LUN to some temporary
 space, then remove the 40GB LUN, then shrink the volume and then remove the
 temporary space?

 Another option maybe is to mirror to other LUNS and then try and shrink
 and remove...

 Are there any disk errors showing up in messages?

 Greg.

  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Khurram Tariq
 *Sent:* Thursday, 28 June 2007 2:13 PM
 *To:* veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

 Nopes. It has always been VxFS. Defrag didnt help either and decreasing
 the size in chunks as small as 1GB isnt working either. Initially this FS
 was 440GB  had 2 x 200GB LUNs  1 x 40GB. Resize worked day before
 yesterday  I was able to free up one 200GB LUN out of the volume but its
 not working now.

 Regards,
 Khurram

 On 6/27/07, Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I have a 201GB volume which is composed of two LUNs (40GB  200GB).
  Now I
   want to free up the 40GB LUN from that volume by shrinking the
  volume to
   198GB but vxresize is giving me the following error:
  
   UX:vxfs fsadm: ERROR: V-3-20343: cannot shrink
  /dev/vx/rdsk/some-dg/volumea
   - blocks are currently in use.
   VxVM vxresize ERROR V-5-1-7514 Problem running fsadm command for
  volume
   volumea, in diskgroup some-dg
 
  This filesystem wasn't converted from UFS in the past, was it?
 
  --
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  http://www.taos.com/
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Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-28 Thread Khurram Tariq

After the evacuation I'm left with 2 x 200GB disks in the volume. Disk_160
is 79% used  Disk_161 is 20% used and the volume still refuses to shrink
giving me the same error as before. I've started defrag again in the hopes
that it will this time allow me to shrink the volume. Ideas  suggestions
are most welcome.

On 6/28/07, Khurram Tariq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gentlemen,

I've started the evacuation to Disk_161. Like Robert said Disk_1 is the
first disk of the volume. This way I'll be making either Disk_161 the first
disk (hopefully)  will be able to take Disk_160 or 161 out of the volume
leaving one 200GB disk in there.

Lets see how it goes.

Khurram

On 6/28/07, Smedley, Jeremy P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It could be that the file system is too busy for the fsadm section of
 the command (which has the problem) to complete its move of certain blocks.
 This is more likely due to the fact that the majority of the data in the
 volume is on the first subdisk.

 You could try the following approach if it is feasible in your
 environment.

 Take the application offline which is accessing data on this volume
 (user impact can not be avoided)

 Repeat the defrag whilst the volume is quiesced.
 Repeat the vxresize request whilst the volume is quiesced..
 --
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Khurram
 Tariq
 *Sent:* Thu 6/28/2007 2:44 PM
 *To:* veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

 I had thought of it but the size of the volume is slightly larger than
 the capacity of Disk_161 so mirroring wont be possible. Size of the volume
 visible in VEA is 200.970GB  Disk_161 is 199.980GB.



 On 6/28/07, Weber, Klaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   possible solution could be
  Create a mirror using disk_161
  remove both disk_1 and disk_160 from mirror
  shrink volume  to desired size
  attach mirror consisting of disk_160
  remove disk_161 from mirror
  all this should be possible whilst the volume is started
 
  Klaus
 
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von *Khurram
  Tariq
  *Gesendet: * Donnerstag, 28. Juni 2007 15:23
  *An:*
  *Betreff:* Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem
 
   Agreed but I can also evacuate Disk_1 if I had enough free space on
  Disk_160. This is why I'm decreasing the volume by 2GB so I can have
  sufficient unused space on Disk_160  a subdisk can be created there to
  accomodate Disk_1's evacuation. The output of vxdg free is:
 
  $ vxdg -g oraappdg free
  DISK DEVICE   TAG  OFFSETLENGTHFLAGS
  oraappdg01   Disk_0   Disk_0   85946368  1792  -
  oraappdg02   Disk_1   Disk_1   85946368  1792  -
  oraappdg03   Disk_11  Disk_11  106917888 1792  -
  oraappdg04   Disk_12  Disk_12  44003328  1792  -
  oraappdg05   Disk_160 Disk_160 335511984 83883344  -
  oraappdg06   Disk_161 Disk_161 0 419395328 -
 
 
  Disk_1 has 896KB free (99% used), this is why its showing up in the
  output above.
 
  What do you guys advise? I dont want to use Disk_161 and then have a
  200GB disk stuck in that volume.
 
  Regards,
  Khurram
 
  On 6/28/07, robertinoau [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
So from this output:
  
   v  ccbappl  -ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 SELECT
   -fsgen
   pl ccbappl-01   ccbappl  ENABLED  ACTIVE   421458352 CONCAT
   -RW
   sd oraappdg02-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg02 0  85946368 0
   Disk_1   ENA
   sd oraappdg05-01 ccbappl-01  oraappdg05 0  335511984 85946368
   Disk_160 ENA
  
   Disk_1 starts at offset 0 and the size is 85946368,  so this is your
   40G drive.
  
   So the problem here is this is a contact so you can't take out the
   40G by shrinking the volume.  If you shrink the volume,  you will free up
   space on Disk_160 first  (it shrinks from the bottom up).  Understand 
what I
   am trying to say ?
  
   If you do a vxdg free, I almost certain you won't see Disk_1 in the
   list.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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   From: Khurram Tariq  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
   Sent: Thursday, 28 June, 2007 5:17:33 PM
   Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem
  
   $ vxprint -ht ccbappl
   Disk group: oraappdg
  
   V  NAME RVG/VSET/CO  KSTATE   STATELENGTH   READPOL
   PREFPLEX UTYPE
   PL NAME VOLUME   KSTATE   STATELENGTH   LAYOUT
   NCOL/WID MODE
   SD NAME PLEX DISK DISKOFFS LENGTH   [COL/]OFF
   DEVICE   MODE
   SV NAME PLEX VOLNAME  NVOLLAYR LENGTH   [COL/]OFF
   AM/NMMODE
   SC NAME PLEX CACHEDISKOFFS LENGTH   [COL/]OFF
   DEVICE   MODE
   DC NAME PARENTVOLLOGVOL
   SP NAME SNAPVOL  DCO
   EX NAME ASSOCVC   PERMS
   MODE STATE
   SR NAME KSTATE
  
   v  ccbappl

Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-27 Thread Doug Hughes
Khurram Tariq wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have a 201GB volume which is composed of two LUNs (40GB  200GB). Now I
 want to free up the 40GB LUN from that volume by shrinking the volume to
 198GB but vxresize is giving me the following error:

 UX:vxfs fsadm: ERROR: V-3-20343: cannot shrink 
 /dev/vx/rdsk/some-dg/volumea
 - blocks are currently in use.
 VxVM vxresize ERROR V-5-1-7514 Problem running fsadm command for volume
 volumea, in diskgroup some-dg

 The current utilization on the volume is 103GB leaving 92GB free 
 space. I'm
 running Solaris 9 and VxVM 5.0MP1.

 Regards,
 Khurram
sometimes you can get around this by doing a defrag operation first 
(fsadm -d -e) and then shrinking the filesystem (and try shrinking in 
littler bits instead of the entire big chunk, though it shouldn't 
really make any difference.)


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Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-27 Thread Darren Dunham
 I have a 201GB volume which is composed of two LUNs (40GB  200GB). Now I
 want to free up the 40GB LUN from that volume by shrinking the volume to
 198GB but vxresize is giving me the following error:
 
 UX:vxfs fsadm: ERROR: V-3-20343: cannot shrink /dev/vx/rdsk/some-dg/volumea
 - blocks are currently in use.
 VxVM vxresize ERROR V-5-1-7514 Problem running fsadm command for volume
 volumea, in diskgroup some-dg

This filesystem wasn't converted from UFS in the past, was it?

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Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-27 Thread Khurram Tariq

Nopes. It has always been VxFS. Defrag didnt help either and decreasing the
size in chunks as small as 1GB isnt working either. Initially this FS was
440GB  had 2 x 200GB LUNs  1 x 40GB. Resize worked day before yesterday 
I was able to free up one 200GB LUN out of the volume but its not working
now.

Regards,
Khurram

On 6/27/07, Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I have a 201GB volume which is composed of two LUNs (40GB  200GB). Now
I
 want to free up the 40GB LUN from that volume by shrinking the volume to
 198GB but vxresize is giving me the following error:

 UX:vxfs fsadm: ERROR: V-3-20343: cannot shrink
/dev/vx/rdsk/some-dg/volumea
 - blocks are currently in use.
 VxVM vxresize ERROR V-5-1-7514 Problem running fsadm command for volume
 volumea, in diskgroup some-dg

This filesystem wasn't converted from UFS in the past, was it?

--
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Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/
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Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem

2007-06-27 Thread Robinson, Greg
Hi all,
 
could you perhaps evacuate the data from the 40GB LUN to some temporary
space, then remove the 40GB LUN, then shrink the volume and then remove
the temporary space?
 
Another option maybe is to mirror to other LUNS and then try and shrink
and remove...
 
Are there any disk errors showing up in messages?
 
Greg.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tariq
Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2007 2:13 PM
To: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Resize problem


Nopes. It has always been VxFS. Defrag didnt help either and decreasing
the size in chunks as small as 1GB isnt working either. Initially this
FS was 440GB  had 2 x 200GB LUNs  1 x 40GB. Resize worked day before
yesterday  I was able to free up one 200GB LUN out of the volume but
its not working now. 

Regards,
Khurram


On 6/27/07, Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 I have a 201GB volume which is composed of two LUNs (40GB 
200GB). Now I
 want to free up the 40GB LUN from that volume by shrinking the
volume to
 198GB but vxresize is giving me the following error: 

 UX:vxfs fsadm: ERROR: V-3-20343: cannot shrink
/dev/vx/rdsk/some-dg/volumea
 - blocks are currently in use.
 VxVM vxresize ERROR V-5-1-7514 Problem running fsadm command
for volume
 volumea, in diskgroup some-dg 

This filesystem wasn't converted from UFS in the past, was it?

--
Darren Dunham
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Technical Consultant TAOS
http://www.taos.com/
Got some Dr Pepper?   San Francisco, CA
bay area
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