Re: Subversion 1.7 support?
Wow, I totally forgot about this thread. But thanks, because the email notification reminded me that I should just unsubscribe myself. Even if SVN were still a thing for me (why, hello, Git!), Versions would be dead to me owing to the very topic of this thread. Best of luck to you. Thanks for the year or two that Versions was grand, and I hope your plan works out the way you expect. So long. On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 3:38:44 PM UTC-7, Daniel Dickison wrote: Just another ping on svn 1.7 support — even a vague ballpark statement would be nice. Is 1.7 support a priority? Perhaps after Kaleidoscope 2 emerges from beta? I've switched to the command line for now, and contemplating other apps. On Sunday, May 27, 2012 8:20:01 AM UTC-4, dlpasco wrote: We bought this software to continue updating it and make it even greater than it already is. Unfortunately, disclosing our product roadmap is not an option. Jack is in the unenviable position of being the public face for this product - please at least divert your frustration to me personally, because he is just conveying the message that our team members have all internally agreed to stand by: we give a damn what people think, our product group is very busy, and we can't talk about when we'll release products or what will be in the those releases until they have shipped. If people are upset about that, it's understandable. All that I can say is, we didn't acquire this product to kill it or sit on it. The gist of this is as follows: * We can't miss a deadline we don't announce (on at least one product, we would have missed our proposed deadline multiple times if we'd kept telling people when we planned to ship. Unfortunately, really producing a polished product takes a lot of time, and we agreed internally that we'd rather take longer to make something better than just push something out the door that would make people upset). * If we don't announce the features in our next planned release, we can't get flamed for postponing support for that feature in the release if it looks like it's not ready to make it into the build yet). * Our competitors (and there are many out there) - can't jump the gun on us if we don't announce an upcoming feature before it goes live. All three of these factors are important, and the last one may only be important to us, but it's a critical one: our product team is young and totally buried working on applications - if we lose market share simply because we announce something before it's ready, and someone else is capable of responding to the announcement before we ship, it's going to really hurt our ability to even break even on what we're working on - which means that it will become even harder for our team to ship great updates to these apps. My personal focus for almost the last year has been on putting absolutely all of my energy into our product team. These apps are large, complex, great things, and we're committed to doing great work on everything we ship. Since our product team currently consists of about five full time developers and four full time designers, and we have taken on five different applications. Moving forward with these apps *and* doing a great job on them takes time. Our company is investing heavily in the product group, currently at a net loss. Hopefully, at some point in the future we will at least break even on our work. At the present, please try to take the following points to heart: * We are crazily in love with our apps * We are working our butts off * We have already turned down offers to acquire our company, as well as offers to acquire individual products, because we want to see these apps *ship* and we want them to be amazing. * We are absolutely not sitting on these apps and happily collecting revenue from them - we're using the revenue to pay for the work our product team is doing and our company is sinking considerably more than those apps are making into the product group in order to pay for the other people that the direct revenue doesn't cover. At this point, as I've told Jack (who has expressed support for our stance of silence, but also really been uncomfortable with the fact that it doesn't leave him in a very good position on the support front), the only thing we can do is shut up and ship something great. Which is what we're trying to do. If we lose customers in the interim, those are lumps we will have to take. Hopefully as our apps do ship, they will be compelling enough that people will be interested in trying them out. I wish we were big enough that I could just throw 30 people at these projects and ship them on an expedited pace. Unfortunately, this is why being indie is a double-edged sword: we have complete creative control over our apps and can take the time to make them the best they can be, instead of being beholden to some investor that
Re: Subversion 1.7 support?
Not only have I moved on from Versions, I've moved on from Subversion and on to Git. If you have the option, try it. You'll like it, once you get the hang of it -- although that can take a while if you're used to SVN. And if you need a nice GUI for Git, SourceTree is pretty full-featured and free. http://www.sourcetreeapp.com (and it's made by Atlassian, so it doesn't suck and sees regular updates) I think it's time to abandon ship. I was still getting daily summaries for this list...but it's time to cut the cord. Versions was good while it lasted. It didn't last very long, unfortunately. On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:44:56 AM UTC-6, Ron Stewart wrote: I agree... I've written this one off. I've moved to Cornerstone on two of my Macs, and Syntevo's free foundation version of their SmartSVN client on my other Mac and my Linux boxes. Both of those are decent or better as SVN clients with v1.7 support, and they've been there for about 8 months. On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:37:29 PM UTC-6, Ryan wrote: I've made the move to cornerstone. I'm pissed that Versions isn't up to date on this after parting with the money. I should have got a 5-license with cornerstone to begin with. It's the 19th of August! On Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:19:24 AM UTC+8, William Chu wrote: When is Subversion 1.7 support coming to Versions? It's become a real hindrance and I've found myself gradually using Versions less and less given this limitation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/versions/-/B1hMPyNaTYgJ. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Congrats, Versions team
I say, good job, Dirk et. al. It's been a long time coming, but clearly you've been working on it. My biggest fear about Versions has been the lack of updates, and that we had bought licenses to a dead-in- the-water product. I'm glad to be wrong about that. All in all, I like the visual changes (still getting used to the new All/Changed position) and am glad to see that long list of bullet points (didn't read every one, I do have a job I need to get done, but I scanned it and it's impressive). Possibly my favorite new feature is the right-click in the Bookmarks pane. Can't tell you how many times I did that anyway, only to be disappointed. I'm on the fence about the look of the Timeline/Browse/Transcript buttons. They are less contrasty (and I'm on 10.6) and it's less obvious to be sure. I think, though, that because there are three of them, it's easy enough to tell. I think the style is one of those things where if there there were only two buttons in the group, you wouldn't be able to tell very easily which is selected. But because there is always one selected and two deselected, you have a frame of reference. Personally, I think a little more contrast would help, but I'm only bringing it up because Gabriel did. Thanks for the update. It's a good point release. Can't wait for the next one, now! Get working! On Dec 2, 10:02 pm, Daniel Dickison danieldicki...@gmail.com wrote: Here's one more kudos for the nice update. It looks like Sofa taking over Versions development is working out well (for you guys and for us!) Daniel On Dec 2, 12:01 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Thanks Joe, It means a lot to hear that. - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 2, 3:10 pm, Joe Wicentowski joe...@gmail.com wrote: 1.1 looks like a solid release with needed fixes and good new features. Thanks for continuing the development of Versions! For those who haven't seen it yet, here are the release notes:http://versionsapp.com/releasenotes Cheers, Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Software Update Remind me Later
When I click on the Remind me later button in the dialog prompting me to update my copy of Versions, it should not prompt me again until I launch Versions again. Instead, it prompts me every half hour or so (never really timed it, but it's often enough to be annoying). Not only does it prompt me again, it strongbrings itself to the front/ strong. I understand most people will probably just go ahead and update right away, and I'm in the minority of people who don't want to update right away but also don't want to skip the update, but still. The darn thing shouldn't be on a timer. It should be at launch. The ironic thing is that this won't get fixed...without an update. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: One repository per project, or subfolders?
On Jul 7, 7:42 am, Mitch Cohen mitchellsco...@gmail.com wrote: They are scattered all over my hard drive (organized by client) Wow, you let your client organize your hard drive? :) Oh, yes, I'd vote for one client = one repo, too. That's how we do it; keeps a balance between too many and too few. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moved files
I go back and forth on this matter. See, SVN has no real move command (at least, as far as I know, but I'm for sure one of the least experienced SVN users on this forum). So it's perfectly in sync with what's really going on with a move to display a deleted and an added icon. On the other hand, this lack of moving is one of the most frustrating things about SVN, because let's face it, I'm used to the Finder, where to move something, you just, well, move it. Having to remember to copy it, instead, and then add/delete in SVN is cumbersome when it works, and downright aggravating when I forget and start moving whole directories around. So it is nice to have a GUI to at least make a move more logical (just have to remember to not do it in the Finder!). And in that case, maybe it would be nice to have an extra non-standard icon to signify such an event. In either case, I find it a pretty good practice to make the move, and any necessary related changes, and then commit. Your commit is now simply just to register the moving of files. Then move forward with your regular development, and commit as usual. This should keep your icon weirdness to a minimum, as you won't be in the move = delete + add situation for too long. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
