Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Michael Weiner]

Jeremy Sanders  writes:
> Veusz is designed to break lines with NaN values.  Maybe it would be a good 
idea to add an option to not do that.  I could envisage supporting two 
different types of NaN - a datagroup breaking value and a missing value. This 
would be possible as there are so many different NaN values allowed. The main 
problem is how you support importing these different types of NaN.

Yes, I recommend that!  Thanks.

Mike


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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Jeremy Sanders]

On 03/25/2016 11:01 AM, Michael Weiner wrote:


It would be best if Veusz could simply plot only the non-missing values
directly.  "NaN" works but breaks the line on xy plots.  Microsoft Excel
handles this well with the "NA()" value combined with the following option.

Select data -> Hidden and Empty Cells -> Show empty cells as gaps


Veusz is designed to break lines with NaN values.

Maybe it would be a good idea to add an option to not do that.

I could envisage supporting two different types of NaN - a datagroup 
breaking value and a missing value. This would be possible as there are 
so many different NaN values allowed. The main problem is how you 
support importing these different types of NaN.


Cheers

Jeremy

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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Michael Weiner]

Birger Ilau  writes:
>
> I'm plotting multiple groups of data and there are different number of 
values in each group. In the data fail, I put 0 to the positions of missing 
values to groups that have fewer values than others. But I don't really want 
empty spaces on my chart. I don't know a better way to do this.
> Can anyone help me out, please?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Birger 


It would be best if Veusz could simply plot only the non-missing values 
directly.  "NaN" works but breaks the line on xy plots.  Microsoft Excel 
handles this well with the "NA()" value combined with the following option.

Select data -> Hidden and Empty Cells -> Show empty cells as gaps

Mike
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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Birger Ilau]

Hi,

Thank you for your help, I got a solution (used Johan's idea this time).

Regards
Birger

2016-02-23 14:11 GMT+02:00 Gromov, Sergey <sergey.gro...@mpic.de>:

> Right, compared to Johan’s solution there is certainly more work (however
> not impossible) on making bars having the same width J
>
> Sergey
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Johan Asplund [mailto:asplu...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 23 February 2016 13:08
> *To:* Gromov, Sergey <sergey.gro...@mpic.de>; veusz-discuss@gna.org
> *Subject:* RE: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart
>
>
>
> That’s a good solution but it looks like it also adjust the width of the
> bars which looks a bit weird.
>
>
>
>
>
> Johan
>
>
>
> *From:* Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org
> <veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org>] *On Behalf Of *Gromov, Sergey
> *Sent:* 23 February 2016 11:42
> *To:* veusz-discuss@gna.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart
>
>
>
> Hi Birger,
>
>
>
> An alternative to Johan’s solution would be to play with the axis-broken
> widget.
>
> It allows customising axis breaks and their position.
>
> You can experiment for the best layout in the sample file I attach...
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sergey
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org
> <veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org>] *On Behalf Of *Johan Asplund
> *Sent:* 23 February 2016 10:46
> *To:* 'Birger Ilau' <birgeri...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* veusz-discuss@gna.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart
>
>
>
> Here’s an example where I’ve changed the positions of the bars. The
> positions are not exact but it gives you an idea of how to solve it. Did I
> understand your problem correctly?
>
>
>
> Johan
>
>
>
> *From:* Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org
> <veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org>] *On Behalf Of *Birger Ilau
> *Sent:* 23 February 2016 10:24
> *Cc:* veusz-discuss@gna.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Sorry about the file, now added the data file as well.
>
> I did try NaN, but it still leaves an empty space on the chart in the
> place of NaN just like 0.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Birger
>
>
>
> 2016-02-23 5:15 GMT+02:00 Benjamin K. Stuhl <bk...@cornell.edu>:
>
> Hi Birger,
>   If you put NaN instead of zero, Veusz will automatically break the
> xy-plot lines at each missing value. Is that closer to what you want?
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
>
> On 2/22/2016 1:11 PM, Birger Ilau wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm plotting multiple groups of data and there are different number of
> > values in each group. In the data fail, I put 0 to the positions of
> > missing values to groups that have fewer values than others. But I
> > don't really want empty spaces on my chart. I don't know a better way
> > to do this.
> > Can anyone help me out, please?
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Birger
> >
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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Gromov, Sergey]

Right, compared to Johan’s solution there is certainly more work (however not 
impossible) on making bars having the same width ☺
Sergey


From: Johan Asplund [mailto:asplu...@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 February 2016 13:08
To: Gromov, Sergey <sergey.gro...@mpic.de>; veusz-discuss@gna.org
Subject: RE: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

That’s a good solution but it looks like it also adjust the width of the bars 
which looks a bit weird.


Johan

From: Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Gromov, 
Sergey
Sent: 23 February 2016 11:42
To: veusz-discuss@gna.org<mailto:veusz-discuss@gna.org>
Subject: Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

Hi Birger,

An alternative to Johan’s solution would be to play with the axis-broken widget.
It allows customising axis breaks and their position.
You can experiment for the best layout in the sample file I attach...

Cheers,
Sergey


From: Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Johan 
Asplund
Sent: 23 February 2016 10:46
To: 'Birger Ilau' <birgeri...@gmail.com<mailto:birgeri...@gmail.com>>
Cc: veusz-discuss@gna.org<mailto:veusz-discuss@gna.org>
Subject: Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

Here’s an example where I’ve changed the positions of the bars. The positions 
are not exact but it gives you an idea of how to solve it. Did I understand 
your problem correctly?

Johan

From: Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Birger 
Ilau
Sent: 23 February 2016 10:24
Cc: veusz-discuss@gna.org<mailto:veusz-discuss@gna.org>
Subject: Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

Hi

Sorry about the file, now added the data file as well.
I did try NaN, but it still leaves an empty space on the chart in the place of 
NaN just like 0.

Thanks,
Birger

2016-02-23 5:15 GMT+02:00 Benjamin K. Stuhl 
<bk...@cornell.edu<mailto:bk...@cornell.edu>>:
Hi Birger,
  If you put NaN instead of zero, Veusz will automatically break the
xy-plot lines at each missing value. Is that closer to what you want?

Regards,
Ben

On 2/22/2016 1:11 PM, Birger Ilau wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm plotting multiple groups of data and there are different number of
> values in each group. In the data fail, I put 0 to the positions of
> missing values to groups that have fewer values than others. But I
> don't really want empty spaces on my chart. I don't know a better way
> to do this.
> Can anyone help me out, please?
>
> All the best,
>
> Birger
>
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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Johan Asplund]

That’s a good solution but it looks like it also adjust the width of the bars 
which looks a bit weird.

 

 

Johan

 

From: Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Gromov, 
Sergey
Sent: 23 February 2016 11:42
To: veusz-discuss@gna.org
Subject: Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

 

Hi Birger,

 

An alternative to Johan’s solution would be to play with the axis-broken widget.

It allows customising axis breaks and their position.

You can experiment for the best layout in the sample file I attach...

 

Cheers,

Sergey

 

 

From: Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Johan 
Asplund
Sent: 23 February 2016 10:46
To: 'Birger Ilau' <birgeri...@gmail.com <mailto:birgeri...@gmail.com> >
Cc: veusz-discuss@gna.org <mailto:veusz-discuss@gna.org> 
Subject: Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

 

Here’s an example where I’ve changed the positions of the bars. The positions 
are not exact but it gives you an idea of how to solve it. Did I understand 
your problem correctly?

 

Johan

 

From: Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Birger 
Ilau
Sent: 23 February 2016 10:24
Cc: veusz-discuss@gna.org <mailto:veusz-discuss@gna.org> 
Subject: Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

 

Hi

 

Sorry about the file, now added the data file as well. 

I did try NaN, but it still leaves an empty space on the chart in the place of 
NaN just like 0.

 

Thanks,

Birger

 

2016-02-23 5:15 GMT+02:00 Benjamin K. Stuhl <bk...@cornell.edu 
<mailto:bk...@cornell.edu> >:

Hi Birger,
  If you put NaN instead of zero, Veusz will automatically break the
xy-plot lines at each missing value. Is that closer to what you want?

Regards,
Ben


On 2/22/2016 1:11 PM, Birger Ilau wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm plotting multiple groups of data and there are different number of
> values in each group. In the data fail, I put 0 to the positions of
> missing values to groups that have fewer values than others. But I
> don't really want empty spaces on my chart. I don't know a better way
> to do this.
> Can anyone help me out, please?
>
> All the best,
>
> Birger
>
>

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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Gromov, Sergey]

Hi Birger,

An alternative to Johan’s solution would be to play with the axis-broken widget.
It allows customising axis breaks and their position.
You can experiment for the best layout in the sample file I attach...

Cheers,
Sergey


From: Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Johan 
Asplund
Sent: 23 February 2016 10:46
To: 'Birger Ilau' <birgeri...@gmail.com>
Cc: veusz-discuss@gna.org
Subject: Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

Here’s an example where I’ve changed the positions of the bars. The positions 
are not exact but it gives you an idea of how to solve it. Did I understand 
your problem correctly?

Johan

From: Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Birger 
Ilau
Sent: 23 February 2016 10:24
Cc: veusz-discuss@gna.org<mailto:veusz-discuss@gna.org>
Subject: Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

Hi

Sorry about the file, now added the data file as well.
I did try NaN, but it still leaves an empty space on the chart in the place of 
NaN just like 0.

Thanks,
Birger

2016-02-23 5:15 GMT+02:00 Benjamin K. Stuhl 
<bk...@cornell.edu<mailto:bk...@cornell.edu>>:
Hi Birger,
  If you put NaN instead of zero, Veusz will automatically break the
xy-plot lines at each missing value. Is that closer to what you want?

Regards,
Ben

On 2/22/2016 1:11 PM, Birger Ilau wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm plotting multiple groups of data and there are different number of
> values in each group. In the data fail, I put 0 to the positions of
> missing values to groups that have fewer values than others. But I
> don't really want empty spaces on my chart. I don't know a better way
> to do this.
> Can anyone help me out, please?
>
> All the best,
>
> Birger
>
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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Johan Asplund]

Here’s an example where I’ve changed the positions of the bars. The positions 
are not exact but it gives you an idea of how to solve it. Did I understand 
your problem correctly?

 

Johan

 

From: Veusz-discuss [mailto:veusz-discuss-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Birger 
Ilau
Sent: 23 February 2016 10:24
Cc: veusz-discuss@gna.org
Subject: Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

 

Hi

 

Sorry about the file, now added the data file as well. 

I did try NaN, but it still leaves an empty space on the chart in the place of 
NaN just like 0.

 

Thanks,

Birger

 

2016-02-23 5:15 GMT+02:00 Benjamin K. Stuhl <bk...@cornell.edu 
<mailto:bk...@cornell.edu> >:

Hi Birger,
  If you put NaN instead of zero, Veusz will automatically break the
xy-plot lines at each missing value. Is that closer to what you want?

Regards,
Ben


On 2/22/2016 1:11 PM, Birger Ilau wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm plotting multiple groups of data and there are different number of
> values in each group. In the data fail, I put 0 to the positions of
> missing values to groups that have fewer values than others. But I
> don't really want empty spaces on my chart. I don't know a better way
> to do this.
> Can anyone help me out, please?
>
> All the best,
>
> Birger
>
>

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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Birger Ilau]

Hi

Sorry about the file, now added the data file as well.
I did try NaN, but it still leaves an empty space on the chart in the place
of NaN just like 0.

Thanks,
Birger

2016-02-23 5:15 GMT+02:00 Benjamin K. Stuhl :

> Hi Birger,
>   If you put NaN instead of zero, Veusz will automatically break the
> xy-plot lines at each missing value. Is that closer to what you want?
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
> On 2/22/2016 1:11 PM, Birger Ilau wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm plotting multiple groups of data and there are different number of
> > values in each group. In the data fail, I put 0 to the positions of
> > missing values to groups that have fewer values than others. But I
> > don't really want empty spaces on my chart. I don't know a better way
> > to do this.
> > Can anyone help me out, please?
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Birger
> >
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wt,mut1,mut2,mut3
1,"0,5","0,9","0,1"
1,"0,3","0,4",0
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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Benjamin K. Stuhl]

Hi Birger,
  If you put NaN instead of zero, Veusz will automatically break the
xy-plot lines at each missing value. Is that closer to what you want?

Regards,
Ben

On 2/22/2016 1:11 PM, Birger Ilau wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm plotting multiple groups of data and there are different number of
> values in each group. In the data fail, I put 0 to the positions of
> missing values to groups that have fewer values than others. But I
> don't really want empty spaces on my chart. I don't know a better way
> to do this.
> Can anyone help me out, please?
>
> All the best,
>
> Birger 
>
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Re: [Veusz-discuss] bar chart - file attached

[Gromov, Sergey]

Hi Birger,

It is not possible to open the file you sent – you need to send the data file 
(160222_example1.csv) along, as Veusz does not save imported data by default.

Alternatively, you could choose “unlink all” on this dataset in the data 
browser, then it will be saved in *.vsz.

Sergey


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[Veusz-discuss] bar chart

[Birger Ilau]

Hi,

I'm plotting multiple groups of data and there are different number of
values in each group. In the data fail, I put 0 to the positions of missing
values to groups that have fewer values than others. But I don't really
want empty spaces on my chart. I don't know a better way to do this.
Can anyone help me out, please?

All the best,

Birger
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