[VFB] Re: Wading experience...

2009-06-30 Thread Niclas Runarsson
I didn't take it that serious. Like you say yourself, it's only a question
of 'when'... so most of the fishermen who have fished for a while have done
it too. I had been close several times during the week. One of my two
fishing buddies fell the first day... and the other had also been very
close. I wasn't embarrased at all. When I got back up on land I bowed to the
two fishermen who stood on the other side of the river and watched. When I
fell in the White it was a little embarrasing as it was in a place where a
3-year old probably could wade without problems. But this was deeper, in the
middle of the night, with big slippery rocks and a good current. I'm sure
I'm not the first one falling there.

I will certainly not forget this experience and closing my pockets will be
something I will do automatically. But naming them is a good idea. Just
because closing the pockets minimize the risk of losing them in a fall
doesn't prevent me from forgetting them somewhere.

/Nick
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  Subject: [VFB] Re: Wading experience...


  Nick, this is the reason that I use one of those address labels received
in the mail overlaid with scotch tape on each fly box. Hopefully, if found
by another fisherman it may be returned to me. Without a label it is merely
a gift for the finder.  Sometimes the box - Wheatley - is worth more than
the flies.

  Glad you survived the dunking and didn't break the rod. When I take a
tumble, I am always more concerned for the rod than my body. If you are a
wading fly fisherman, it is not a matter of if you are going to take a
fall, but when. Sooner or later we all suffer the indignity, I just hate
the embarrassment!

  George Vincent




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  Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 16:26
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Wading experience...


  I have just come home from a nice week of grayling fishing in the northern
Swedish river Hårkan... with a wading experience richer. The only wader
dip I had before this was in White River 2006. That one must have been in
the America's Funniest Home Videos league. Tony can testify on that. Water
that's hardly moving... barely one foot deep... with a gravel bottom flat as
a pancake... stumble on virtually nothing and landing on my chest.

  This time the water was waist deep though and pushing quite hard. The
bottom was rocky and far from wading friendly (and I had been close to fall
several times during the week). It wasn't a without wading stick place (at
least not to me, who is a careful dude). I heard the sound of a fish rising
to my left and when I quickly turned my head to see where it was I felt a
sligtht sign of losing balance. So I took a little step backwards... maybe
5-6... slipped and fell backwards... and suddenly I was under the water.
After fighting a couple of seconds I managed to turn around so I had my toes
facing the stones and when I got a grip between the stones the stream
towards my chest helped me to get up again. I turned to get up from the
water and in the very next step I slipped again and fell face down. This
time it didn't come as the same shock kind of thing as the first fall and I
was able to actually THINK about how to get up, so I got back up standing
without major problem.
  I looked down and was going to reach for my wading stick and saw that the
left pocket in my chest pack was empty... just as empty as the left big vest
pocket. Downstream I saw three boxes getting smaller... a big
compartment/slit foam box with dry flies, a slit foam box (swing leaf) of
the same size with nymphs and another slit foam box with soft hackle flies.
I had packed my boxes with flies before this trip, so there were more than a
couple of flies disappearing there... and instincts took over.

  I started to run downstream (as fast as you can, jumping on rocks with
water up to your waist). The water got deeper though and when it reached
just below my chest I stumbled and fell again. I had just reached the boxes,
but at the same time I also reached a hole where it suddenly got much
deeper. Trying to stand up again wasn't on the menu anymore and I started to
swim. Swimming with the rod in one hand and 'catching' all three boxes was
impossible. I knew that much. So I started to hit them one by one to get
them upstream and closer to land. Then I swam a bit towards land myself
until they reached me and it was time for the next hit/swim move again.
After a couple of times repeating this I was at a depth where I could stand
up again and just collecting the boxes coming towards me... and finally
focus on leaving the water.

  The night before this I had landed my (by far) largest grayling after a
long fight on 

FW: [VFB] Re: FW: Mark, FFF Show Loveland

2009-06-30 Thread jim phillips

MARK SAYS:

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
  


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: FW: Mark, FFF Show Loveland
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:07:12 -0600



Peggy.we're gonna make that gig at Whiting if we can..you have an 
email. mark
 


Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:48:02 -0400
Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: Mark, FFF Show Loveland
From: ladyflyt...@gmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

I'll see you at Whiting Farms Open house, I land in Denver on the 22nd and am 
driving over the mountains, want to get my national park stamp on the way, then 
rush back to the Conclave.  I'm tying on Saturday morning Table 14.  Other than 
the conclave haven't really made the plans yet, I'm hoping as the Cape is empty 
of tourists the Rocky's will be as well.

Peggy


On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, DonO f...@tribcsp.com wrote:



Mark,
A long time ago I used to tie for days on end at shows all over the country, 
but I'm past that now- got over it. :o)  Never could get the show sponsors to 
help out with expenses, so 8-10 shows a year got pretty expensive.  At this FFF 
show, I asked for Saturday all day, but they only gave me the afternoon (hardly 
worth the trip for 4 hours of tying). So I'll probably go for Friday and 
Saturday since it's so close to home, meet old friends, and let everyone know 
the status of the DVD- and hopefully it'll be done by then.  Really busy right 
now with work, and almost all else takes a back seat when the training schools 
are on.  I don't fish Colorado, fishing in Wyoming is much better and far less 
crowded, unless you go to an area the 'Greenies' (Coloradans) know about.  I 
will try to plan to make the Whiting Farms open house on the Monday before the 
show.
Don

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From: jim phillips 
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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: [VFB] FW: for the list..

from mark

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: for the list..
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:02:01 -0600

DonO.i c u've at least got the last shift of the entire Conclave in 
Loveland.on Sat. Whatcha doin' all the rest of the time?
Looking forward to seein' you again.i'll be at Table 16 the entire 
timeevery single shit from start to finish, Wed. thru Sat.
Misa will be right next to me on Thursday, all day at table 15. She teachin' a 
class or taken a class all the rest of the time. Looks like they've got quite a 
few openings still to fill. Specially on the first day.whataya think? Are 
you gonna be there from the first day on, or what? We should be in town by the 
26th at the latest. Like to get some fishin' in as well either before or after, 
or both. i never fish during. Do you happen to know any place in the area that 
is special? i can bring you some hooks (like the kind before) if you like. 
Tkx., and safe travels. mark. p.s., you bringin' the Bates Motel? lol..
 



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FW: [VFB] Re: FW: Mark, FFF Show Loveland

2009-06-30 Thread jim phillips

MARK SENDS

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: FW: Mark, FFF Show Loveland
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:41:56 -0600



for the list
Peggy/Don.i got the email address and phone number and i've emailed Whiting 
Farms, and i will call there if i get no response by way of email. So not to 
worry. Tkx. mark.
 


Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:48:02 -0400
Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: Mark, FFF Show Loveland
From: ladyflyt...@gmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

I'll see you at Whiting Farms Open house, I land in Denver on the 22nd and am 
driving over the mountains, want to get my national park stamp on the way, then 
rush back to the Conclave.  I'm tying on Saturday morning Table 14.  Other than 
the conclave haven't really made the plans yet, I'm hoping as the Cape is empty 
of tourists the Rocky's will be as well.

Peggy



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, DonO f...@tribcsp.com wrote:



Mark,
A long time ago I used to tie for days on end at shows all over the country, 
but I'm past that now- got over it. :o)  Never could get the show sponsors to 
help out with expenses, so 8-10 shows a year got pretty expensive.  At this FFF 
show, I asked for Saturday all day, but they only gave me the afternoon (hardly 
worth the trip for 4 hours of tying). So I'll probably go for Friday and 
Saturday since it's so close to home, meet old friends, and let everyone know 
the status of the DVD- and hopefully it'll be done by then.  Really busy right 
now with work, and almost all else takes a back seat when the training schools 
are on.  I don't fish Colorado, fishing in Wyoming is much better and far less 
crowded, unless you go to an area the 'Greenies' (Coloradans) know about.  I 
will try to plan to make the Whiting Farms open house on the Monday before the 
show.
Don

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From: jim phillips 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: [VFB] FW: for the list..

from mark

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: for the list..
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:02:01 -0600

DonO.i c u've at least got the last shift of the entire Conclave in 
Loveland.on Sat. Whatcha doin' all the rest of the time?
Looking forward to seein' you again.i'll be at Table 16 the entire 
timeevery single shit from start to finish, Wed. thru Sat.
Misa will be right next to me on Thursday, all day at table 15. She teachin' a 
class or taken a class all the rest of the time. Looks like they've got quite a 
few openings still to fill. Specially on the first day.whataya think? Are 
you gonna be there from the first day on, or what? We should be in town by the 
26th at the latest. Like to get some fishin' in as well either before or after, 
or both. i never fish during. Do you happen to know any place in the area that 
is special? i can bring you some hooks (like the kind before) if you like. 
Tkx., and safe travels. mark. p.s., you bringin' the Bates Motel? lol..
 



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FW: [VFB] Re: Wading experience...

2009-06-30 Thread jim phillips

for mark

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: Wading experience...
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:54:12 -0600



for the list
George, i do that with all my rod tubes and have been doing for 
years.fly boxes is a good idea. Recently my nymphs box has come up 
missing..got no clue where it is.probably lost. Wish i had done 
what you say before now.  mark
 


From: k...@msn.com
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Subject: [VFB] Re: Wading experience...
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:12:06 -0400



Nick, this is the reason that I use one of those address labels received in the 
mail overlaid with scotch tape on each fly box. Hopefully, if found by another 
fisherman it may be returned to me. Without a label it is merely a gift for the 
finder.  Sometimes the box - Wheatley - is worth more than the flies. 
 
Glad you survived the dunking and didn't break the rod. When I take a tumble, I 
am always more concerned for the rod than my body. If you are a wading fly 
fisherman, it is not a matter of if you are going to take a fall, but when. 
Sooner or later we all suffer the indignity, I just hate the embarrassment!
 
George Vincent



From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Niclas Runarsson
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 16:26
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Wading experience...



I have just come home from a nice week of grayling fishing in the northern 
Swedish river Hårkan... with a wading experience richer. The only wader dip I 
had before this was in White River 2006. That one must have been in the 
America's Funniest Home Videos league. Tony can testify on that. Water that's 
hardly moving... barely one foot deep... with a gravel bottom flat as a 
pancake... stumble on virtually nothing and landing on my chest.
 
This time the water was waist deep though and pushing quite hard. The bottom 
was rocky and far from wading friendly (and I had been close to fall several 
times during the week). It wasn't a without wading stick place (at least not 
to me, who is a careful dude). I heard the sound of a fish rising to my left 
and when I quickly turned my head to see where it was I felt a sligtht sign of 
losing balance. So I took a little step backwards... maybe 5-6... slipped and 
fell backwards... and suddenly I was under the water. After fighting a couple 
of seconds I managed to turn around so I had my toes facing the stones and when 
I got a grip between the stones the stream towards my chest helped me to get 
up again. I turned to get up from the water and in the very next step I slipped 
again and fell face down. This time it didn't come as the same shock kind of 
thing as the first fall and I was able to actually THINK about how to get up, 
so I got back up standing without major problem.
I looked down and was going to reach for my wading stick and saw that the left 
pocket in my chest pack was empty... just as empty as the left big vest pocket. 
Downstream I saw three boxes getting smaller... a big compartment/slit foam box 
with dry flies, a slit foam box (swing leaf) of the same size with nymphs and 
another slit foam box with soft hackle flies. I had packed my boxes with flies 
before this trip, so there were more than a couple of flies disappearing 
there... and instincts took over. 
 
I started to run downstream (as fast as you can, jumping on rocks with water up 
to your waist). The water got deeper though and when it reached just below my 
chest I stumbled and fell again. I had just reached the boxes, but at the same 
time I also reached a hole where it suddenly got much deeper. Trying to stand 
up again wasn't on the menu anymore and I started to swim. Swimming with the 
rod in one hand and 'catching' all three boxes was impossible. I knew that 
much. So I started to hit them one by one to get them upstream and closer to 
land. Then I swam a bit towards land myself until they reached me and it was 
time for the next hit/swim move again. After a couple of times repeating this 
I was at a depth where I could stand up again and just collecting the boxes 
coming towards me... and finally focus on leaving the water.
 
The night before this I had landed my (by far) largest grayling after a long 
fight on a #3 rod and in fast moving water,,, but I still think this was the 
took the prize as the adventure of the trip. How I actually managed to 
salvage all three boxes and the rod (and myself) is beyond me. I must have had 
Him on my side. But you can't have anything. Back in the wind shelter we sat by 
the fire and I had changed into some reserve clothing and my wading jacket that 
I didn't wore when I fell. My soaking wet fleece sweater was hanging on a nail 
on the wall... right above my opened backpack. The water was dripping RIGHT 
down in the pocket where I kept the cellphone... and that was the end of his 
adventure. :oP
 

[VFB] FW: for the list

2009-06-30 Thread jim phillips

FOR MARK

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: for the list
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:12:45 -0600



Don, btw these types of discussions are exactly what the forum on my website 
is for...i'd REALLY appreciate it if you'd join and take it over 
there..the site NEEDS a serious heaveyweight like youwe 
gotta few and i'm NOT referring to mebut we need you, wether you agree 
or disagree...don't matteryour one hell of an artistic fly 
tyer in my opinion. And VERY CREATIVE. And i'm a fan, BIG TIME! So please, for 
the 10th timewon't you join??? If you don't reply or 
whatever.i'll stop buggin' you bout it.  tkx., mark 
http://www.pureartflytying.ning.com 


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[VFB] QFTD

2009-06-30 Thread Rick Zieger
It is just plain fun to watch a fish inhale a big dry fly with the intent to 
kill and eat it one splashy take.
 
Scott Sanchez   July/Aug 2009 American Angler
 
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