Re: [VFB] Joyce- dry fly hackles
thanks. Joyce On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Joyce, More accurately it would be the 'butt end' that I'm tying down, but that's not totally right, either. With saddle hackles being a foot long (or more) and all of one size along the length, there is no longer a 'small end' or a 'large end'- it's all the 'sweet spot'. One reason to tie the butt end (or bird-side) down is that it's easier to fasten down than the tip end. Second, it is less likely to pull out from under the thread, because of the 'knap' (like a hair follicle being one-directional for friction). Since many flies can be tied from the same hackle, you're rarely really working with the actual 'base' of the hackle, and that is usually trimmed off because of a wee bit of body web at the base. I don't have AK's book, so I'll have to look up what he does. John Schaper and I worked this up when he was the chief hackle grader at Whiting Farms about 8 years ago. The 'new' genetic saddles with the very fine main stems is what allowed us to reverse-hackle flies without laying down hackles. This does not look near as nice using neck hackles, as the stem is thicker. We developed a pattern of hackle overlay that was especially useful in size 18 and smaller 'Winger-style' dry flies. Since Wingers tie in with a thin base stem, it's possible to make the hackling much more dense at the wing tie-in points. So two things were necessary for this approach- the genetic saddle hackles and Winger necks, both of which we had a warehouse full at our disposal. *:*o) Don - Original Message - *From:* Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:54 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Joyce- dry fly hackles Don, your fly follows what A K Best does in his book, Production Fly Tying. Do you tie in large end or small end of the feather first? Thanks. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] re: how do you tie in hackle?
Joyce, I prefer the approach as illustrated in the below step by step for a variety of reasons. I wrote a piece on the subject for the Flyfisherman magazine web site, but in their recent site re-vamp it got lost, so no working url for it. However, try this step by step which shows my preferred approach. http://www.danica.com/flytier/steps/buttercup/buttercup.htm Cheers, Hans On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested in hackle tie in techniques. Do you wind the thread behind the hackle, back from the eye, wind the hackle and then run the thread through it? Do you tie in at the back of the hackle and wind the hackle up to the eye and tie off at the eye without winding the thread through it? Do you always tie it in wide end first or narrow end first? Inquiring minds want to know. take a moment and let me know your technique and why it works well for you. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Catskill Dry Flys
Singlebarbed Steely resolve in the face of the Perfect Feather Posted: 01 Dec 2009 11:02 PM PST Per request I’ll continue to post additional fly beautification tips in a weekly format. These will comprise hardscrabble lessons learned somewhere after beginner and before complete mastery. Most tiers that tiptoe around the craft use their fishing instincts when no instructor or book is available. Most of us started as dry fly fishermen and it’s not surprising that most new fly tiers attempt the dry fly more often than nymphs. … which is too bad. Tying nymphs is far more forgiving than the delicate and strictly proportioned Catskill dry. A novice tier can hold up some lumpy looking stonefly and if critiqued can respond with “ … well, all the stoneflies in _ Creek are fat.” … and if I had been the unfortunate to task the fellow – I’d blush like hell and backpedal in a hurry – never having fished over “fatty” Plecoptera … The Catskill dry is completely unforgiving. It’s territory and techniques have been practiced for more than a hundred years – and artistic license must be defended, even for expert tiers. One of those oft-mentioned-quickly-forgotten principles is made more difficult in the presence of the Perfect Feather … Above are two examples of the Perfect Feather; a foot long #16 grizzly saddle hackle, and a well marked (lefty) Wood duck flank feather with perfect tips. Both are treated with awe by the owning fly tier – and both can cause your fly to suffer cruelly if you’re not diligent… You’re a kid in a candy store, all those precious tips are in a straight line and unbroken. Giddy, you fail to clip the center stem because it’s perfect too. You forgot that all feathers are either a left or a right, even foot long saddles and untouched Wood duck flank. The wood duck will be your undoing twice. In the first case the stem will cock one wing to the left, and in the second, the stem center will retain 9 or 10 fibers attached and you’ll have to compensate by yanking fibers from the far wing to the near side to equalize that natural bulk. The picture at right shows the Perfect feather now clumped together with the center stem included. Note how all’s well – there’s no clue that anything is other than perfectly straight. You’re thinking of dumping all your “lemon-dyed mallard” – as the sight of the wood duck with its pristine coloration, fine markings, and perfect tips – make it so much more pleasurable to work with – even justifying the hideous cost to lay in a goodly supply. Unfortunately like Ulysses and the Sirens – their song is so beautiful, you’re ignoring the approaching rocks … Now you can see why you remove the center stem. The left side is thin and has a different angle than the right wing. The cause is simple. You had to pull the loose fibers over to the right side to balance the two clumps – leaving the left, just the stem section. It’s thin because the fibers are attached to the center spine and have no “give” to move around. We were lured onto those rocks consciously … The picture at right shows the same wing as before. I’ve removed the wing from the shank, clipped out the center stem and retied it back on. Note the difference with the picture above. the left wing is relaxed, the right wing is less dense and tighter – as you didn’t have to pull everything to that side to compensate for the stem on the left. That foot-long Grizzly saddle is just as bad. You’re used to applying six or eight turns of hackle to your dry flies, but the lure of virtually unlimited hackle means you add four or five extra wraps and crowd the head. Crowding means fibers trapped in the knot that’ll wick the head cement right into the eye. It’s the lure of the Perfect Feather. You won’t find it mentioned in any tome or DVD, and only your steely resolve to overcome it’s sweet song … Tags: wood duck flank, grizzly saddle, upright and divided wing, center stem, lure of the Perfect Feather, steely resolve, fly tying You are subscribed to email updates from Singlebarbed To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Catskill Dry Flys
I am not sure where you found this, or if you wrote it. Either way it is fantastic! It makes me want to go home and tie up some hendricksons! John Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:50 AM, jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com wrote: Singlebarbed Steely resolve in the face of the Perfect Feather Posted: 01 Dec 2009 11:02 PM PST Per request I’ll continue to post additional fly beautification tips in a weekly format. These will comprise hardscrabble lessons learned somewhere after beginner and before complete mastery. Most tiers that tiptoe around the craft use their fishing instincts when no instructor or book is available. Most of us started as dry fly fishermen and it’s not surprising that most new fly tiers attempt the dry fly more often than nymphs. … which is too bad. Tying nymphs is far more forgiving than the delicate and strictly proportioned Catskill dry. A novice tier can hold up some lumpy looking stonefly and if critiqued can respond with “ … well, all the stoneflies in _ Creek are fat.” … and if I had been the unfortunate to task the fellow – I’d blush like hell and backpedal in a hurry – never having fished over “fatty” Plecoptera … The Catskill dry is completely unforgiving. It’s territory and techniques have been practiced for more than a hundred years – and artistic license must be defended, even for expert tiers. One of those oft-mentioned-quickly-forgotten principles is made more difficult in the presence of the Perfect Feather … Above are two examples of the Perfect Feather; a foot long #16 grizzly saddle hackle, and a well marked (lefty) Wood duck flank feather with perfect tips. Both are treated with awe by the owning fly tier – and both can cause your fly to suffer cruelly if you’re not diligent… You’re a kid in a candy store, all those precious tips are in a straight line and unbroken. Giddy, you fail to clip the center stem because it’s perfect too. You forgot that all feathers are either a left or a right, even foot long saddles and untouched Wood duck flank. The wood duck will be your undoing twice. In the first case the stem will cock one wing to the left, and in the second, the stem center will retain 9 or 10 fibers attached and you’ll have to compensate by yanking fibers from the far wing to the near side to equalize that natural bulk. The picture at right shows the Perfect feather now clumped together with the center stem included. Note how all’s well – there’s no clue that anything is other than perfectly straight. You’re thinking of dumping all your “lemon-dyed mallard” – as the sight of the wood duck with its pristine coloration, fine markings, and perfect tips – make it so much more pleasurable to work with – even justifying the hideous cost to lay in a goodly supply. Unfortunately like Ulysses and the Sirens – their song is so beautiful, you’re ignoring the approaching rocks … Now you can see why you remove the center stem. The left side is thin and has a different angle than the right wing. The cause is simple. You had to pull the loose fibers over to the right side to balance the two clumps – leaving the left, just the stem section. It’s thin because the fibers are attached to the center spine and have no “give” to move around. We were lured onto those rocks consciously … The picture at right shows the same wing as before. I’ve removed the wing from the shank, clipped out the center stem and retied it back on. Note the difference with the picture above. the left wing is relaxed, the right wing is less dense and tighter – as you didn’t have to pull everything to that side to compensate for the stem on the left. That foot-long Grizzly saddle is just as bad. You’re used to applying six or eight turns of hackle to your dry flies, but the lure of virtually unlimited hackle means you add four or five extra wraps and crowd the head. Crowding means fibers trapped in the knot that’ll wick the head cement right into the eye. It’s the lure of the Perfect Feather. You won’t find it mentioned in any tome or DVD, and only your steely resolve to overcome it’s sweet song … Tags: wood duck flank, grizzly saddle, upright and divided wing, center stem, lure of the Perfect Feather, steely resolve, fly tying You are subscribed to email updates from Singlebarbed To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now.Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED
NJ---Neshanic Pa---West Branch of the Raritan Tx---Lion Fl---St. John's Ar---Northfork Az---Beaver Creek Dry Beaver CreekWhiteBlack Lee's Ferry Co---Frying Pan Roaring Fork Ak---Gibralta CopperBattle Kewzack Swezack Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED Name the trout rivers you've fished, w/asterisk by your favorite river*. Be truthful now. :-P This should be interesting. Jimmy D. TX - Guadalupe (tailwater) NM -Cimarron, Rio Costilla, Rayado*, CO - Gunnison, Taylor, OR McKenzie, Willamette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.88/2538 - Release Date: 12/01/09 07:59:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY
The truth is that live-bait fishing has a long and noble history. Live bait was totally unknown to the early caveman, who had to make do with a rather limited assortment of dry flies, nymphs, and a few streamers. One day, whether out of exasperation or simple impatience, a caveman made a backcast with a gray hackle he had not bothered to remove from a sage hen. Instantly, it was taken by a brontosaurus. The caveman was elated by his discovery, even though it was several centuries before anyone learned how to take the brontosaurus off the hook. Patrick McManus They Shoot Canoes Don't They º ** JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, author Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] RIVERS Fished Info Update
Looks like I'm going to have my hands full sorting out all the rivers we've fished . So far, 21 of you have responded with your Rivers. Keep'em coming Thanks, JD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] strange hooks picture
Thanks for that. Some very interesting hooks there. Interested in finding out more about them, especially the doubles. R iain short wrote: sorry bout picture quality biggest blind eye is 83mm from outside curve to tip. silver double is mustad #3 35898 black long treble is a Bill Coe long sea trout treble #18 #20 gold plated (I use for greyling flies) Red body fly is an ABU Optic Keel fly Two flies one hook came from a VFB swap, (lost the label but the tyer was female) New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394593/direct/01/%20 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RIVERS Fished Info Update
I have flyfished for over 30 years and my river list is too extensive to even remember, so I'm sending on some of my top rivers. Some of these are steelhead rivers, but as steelhead are now classified as just trout Washington State -- Rocky Ford Snoqualmie (my home river) Yakima Oregon -- Deschutes Montana -- Madison BC -- Skeena (and all it's incredible tributaries) Minnesota -- Root E. Beaver Wisconsin -- Kinnikinnic Rush Argentina -- Rio Grande Limay Uruaguay -- Jay Paulson www.amazingflies.com - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: [VFB] RIVERS Fished Info Update Looks like I'm going to have my hands full sorting out all the rivers we've fished . So far, 21 of you have responded with your Rivers. Keep'em coming Thanks, JD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD
Mr Ordes I am in awe. Well actually in Engerland but hey ho. This DVD thaingy arrived and I enjoyed 98% of it.The bit I didnt enjoy was the music between scenes and the end. The end came too soon. Its well put together, clear, good sound qaulity and picture qaulity is fantastic too. Delivery service was pretty good too. ;-) Many thanks Don Best regards Keith PS If you missed this then you missed a great job folks and you better hope Mr Ordes gets the next batch done ASAP so you can buy one -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD
Don O, just received the DVD will enjoy it next weekend ... thanks Thomas Eckert - Original Message - From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD Mr Ordes I am in awe. Well actually in Engerland but hey ho. This DVD thaingy arrived and I enjoyed 98% of it.The bit I didnt enjoy was the music between scenes and the end. The end came too soon. Its well put together, clear, good sound qaulity and picture qaulity is fantastic too. Delivery service was pretty good too. ;-) Many thanks Don Best regards Keith PS If you missed this then you missed a great job folks and you better hope Mr Ordes gets the next batch done ASAP so you can buy one -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED
I forgot CO - South Platte River Ed Roden flyfished at gmail dot com Growth means change and change involves risk, stepping from the known to the unknown. - Anonymous 2009/12/2 Ed Roden flyfis...@gmail.com Michigan Paint Creek Clinton River Au Sable South Branch Au Sable North Branch Au Sable Manistee Muskegon Pine Pere Marquette Ohio Mohican River Tennesee West Prong Little Pigeon River Growth means change and change involves risk, stepping from the known to the unknown. - Anonymous On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.netwrote: Name the trout rivers you've fished, w/asterisk by your favorite river*. Be truthful now. :-P This should be interesting. Jimmy D. TX - Guadalupe (tailwater) NM -Cimarron, Rio Costilla, Rayado*, CO - Gunnison, Taylor, OR McKenzie, Willamette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED
Michigan Paint Creek Clinton River Au Sable South Branch Au Sable North Branch Au Sable Manistee Muskegon Pine Pere Marquette Ohio Mohican River Tennesee West Prong Little Pigeon River Growth means change and change involves risk, stepping from the known to the unknown. - Anonymous On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.netwrote: Name the trout rivers you've fished, w/asterisk by your favorite river*. Be truthful now. :-P This should be interesting. Jimmy D. TX - Guadalupe (tailwater) NM -Cimarron, Rio Costilla, Rayado*, CO - Gunnison, Taylor, OR McKenzie, Willamette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD
Keith, We tried to do something about the music, but that was the best non-copyrighted stuff he had. (You aren't the only one with better taste in tunes) Everything really good that I liked came with a royalty fee. Next video I'm hiring a musician- probably a harmonicat blues dude. You can see that I didn't waste any time on the DVD, and yet I still didn't get a half-dozen sequences in that I planned, and some other things. I planned it to be a start/stop/try-it-out format. That's why there's DVD #2 coming if I can get in the black $-wise on this one. You can also see the value in investing in professionals. I didn't want to do a DVD if it was going to look like run-of-the-mill fly-tying videos. So we spent time in planning the scenes, videoing a rough draft from mustiple angles, and then re-videoing with the bugs worked out. Then we sat in front of the editing program for many hours putting scenes together. When I was satisfied, I felt others would be satisfied. It won't take so long next time, as my learning curve has flattened out. It will still take a lot of work, but it will be efficient work. What I'm hoping to get now is photos posted of everyone's work. And then when my website is finished, a page up to post them all with tier's names and recipes. Thanks for buying my DVD. Hope you enjoy rope-dubbing. DonO - Original Message - From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD Mr Ordes I am in awe. Well actually in Engerland but hey ho. This DVD thaingy arrived and I enjoyed 98% of it.The bit I didnt enjoy was the music between scenes and the end. The end came too soon. Its well put together, clear, good sound qaulity and picture qaulity is fantastic too. Delivery service was pretty good too. ;-) Many thanks Don Best regards Keith PS If you missed this then you missed a great job folks and you better hope Mr Ordes gets the next batch done ASAP so you can buy one -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Testing
Testing an alternate email address. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Testing
Earth to Jimmy. Loud and clear here. Over - Original Message - From: Jimmy Moore bigtrout...@earthlink.net To: Jimmy Moore ray...@earthlink.net Cc: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: [VFB] Testing Testing an alternate email address. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD
Keith, Like you, it came to an end too soon. I had been tying on and off for 20 years and almost full tine the past 20 years but I have not seen this process done that way. Don showed me a bit at the Sowbug several years ago but I really did not have the time to take it in. I was too involved with the show. Make it here in March and you might get to see this done in person. Tony --- On Wed, 12/2/09, KP kpt...@btinternet.com wrote: From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com Subject: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 1:21 PM Mr Ordes I am in awe. Well actually in Engerland but hey ho. This DVD thaingy arrived and I enjoyed 98% of it.The bit I didnt enjoy was the music between scenes and the end. The end came too soon. Its well put together, clear, good sound qaulity and picture qaulity is fantastic too. Delivery service was pretty good too. ;-) Many thanks Don Best regards Keith PS If you missed this then you missed a great job folks and you better hope Mr Ordes gets the next batch done ASAP so you can buy one -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD
Don showed me a bit at the Sowbug several years ago Don spent a few minutes in our motel room at that same Sowbug and showed me how to do it. I've been using no other method since. And Don's DVD taught me a lot of the little tricks that I didn't know. I HIGHLY recommend it to everyone. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] re: rivers I've fisshed
Jimmy, I'm obviously a small timer. Have fished the Missouri river in South Dakota (LOTS), Provo River UT, , Illiamna AK,, Deschka IAK and Hobblecreek (actually a river) Ut. My favorites are the Provo (natch as I live here now) and the Missouri, in SD just off Whitlock's Bay at Teacher's point..some great walleye and pike fishing with a few salmon and bass all thrown in there. I'll be interested in the rivers stats. joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
p.s.: Re: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD
p.s.: Our club had Mr. Big Name Fly Tyer here a week ago. He was showing us how to tie flies. He tied one of his with a loose variation of DonO's rope dubbing method (and did a very poor job of it). Fortunately, he didn't blame Don for the technique (nor give him credit either). Any further comments will have to be made off-list. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED
How about Crooked Creek. Tony --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 1:09 PM Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHEDWhoops!!! Arkansas - I totally blocked out the area on the White near Cotter and the area below the dam in the same general area. Don't feel bad, Joe. I did too. That's got to be an asterisk river too. Allan -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RIVERS Fished Info Update
Here goes, I just re read our fishing logs to make the list, guess I just didn't think about the time we spend on the water. Alaska-Willow Creek, Montana Creek, Clear Creek Talkeetna River, Honolulu Creek, Quartz Creek, Kenai River Colorado - Gunnison, Big Thompson, Cache la Poudre Maine - W Branch Penobscot and Big Eddy, Magalloway, Rapid, Androscoggin Chesuncook Lake Massachusetts - Deerfield, Green, Ct, Swift and Quabbin Res area Ct - Farmington NH - Upper Ct River and lakes, Indian and Perry Streams the bogs and Boundary Pond, Merrimack and Squanacoock VT - Moose River, Battenkill, White River NY - Ausable, Beaverkill, Willowwemac Arkansas - White, Northfolk Utah - Provo Peggy B On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: Looks like I'm going to have my hands full sorting out all the rivers we've fished . So far, 21 of you have responded with your Rivers. Keep'em coming Thanks, JD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Peggy Brenner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD
Dear Allan, I made a mistake in subscribing to your group and would very much like to unsubscribe now .could you please do it for me?My name is Ron Arra email rafish...@comcast.net - Original Message - From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 6:47:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD Don showed me a bit at the Sowbug several years ago Don spent a few minutes in our motel room at that same Sowbug and showed me how to do it. I've been using no other method since. And Don's DVD taught me a lot of the little tricks that I didn't know. I HIGHLY recommend it to everyone. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED
Man; A couple of you have fished in my old stomping grounds! In Michigan I have fly fished the Au Sable, both above the generator plant and below it near Hale, the Rifle River, Paint Creek, Clinton River, Stony Creek, Pere Marquette, and a couple of others whose names escape me at the moment. I have also fly fished the Sabine, Trinity, and Neches Rivers in Texas, and the Calcashieu River in Louisiana. Hey Bob and Ed. Where did you fish the Clinton River and Paint Creek? In Rochester??? I grew up there. I caught my first trout in Paint Creek, where it crosses 1st St near where Avon Tube used to be. Tight lines, Salty Dan Tyler Texas If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving! --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Ed Roden flyfis...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ed Roden flyfis...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED To: vfb-mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 2:04 PM Michigan Paint Creek Clinton River Au Sable South Branch Au Sable North Branch Au Sable Manistee Muskegon Pine Pere Marquette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Testing
hotmail sorted you as junk iain Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:56:10 -0500 From: bigtrout...@earthlink.net To: ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] Testing CC: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Testing an alternate email address. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com _ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] re: does this look correct?
Joyce Size wise its fine but way too heavily hackled. 1 to 1.5 turns is all required. iain Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:48:15 -0700 Subject: [VFB] re: does this look correct? From: westpha...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Check out this Stewart's Pom and Silk. Does it look about right? Thanks. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
