Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Anthony Spezio
 That would be BRD would it not.
LOL
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
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Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:55 PM



 
 

How about making a few Black  
WRD??
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger 
than everyone else looks?
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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  I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black 
Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad  
de...@conranch.com 
and had him send me a saddle.
I got it the other day and I am real 
pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No 
financial interest, just satisfied with the feathers.
Arkansas 
Tony


  
  

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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Anthony Spezio
Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a true black or is my 
memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe I should forget the whole 
thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. LOL
Tony

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From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM



 
 

Funny you are in need of the black 
hackle.
I just bought a bottle of black hair dye and am 
going to dye a white on black.
I want to use it for bass flies.
 
I have lots of grackles around here and I am half 
tempted to harvest a few with my BB gun.
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger 
than everyone else looks?
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 
  PM
  Subject: [VFB] Black Hackle
  

  


  I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black 
Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad  
de...@conranch.com 
and had him send me a saddle.
I got it the other day and I am real 
pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No 
financial interest, just satisfied with the feathers.
Arkansas 
Tony


  
  

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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Alan Di Somma
The one person that would give us the right answer is Joyce.

Any ideas Joyce?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
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  From: Anthony Spezio 
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  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle


Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a true black or 
is my memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe I should forget the 
whole thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. LOL
Tony

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  From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM


  Funny you are in need of the black hackle.
  I just bought a bottle of black hair dye and am going to dye a white 
on black.
  I want to use it for bass flies.

  I have lots of grackles around here and I am half tempted to harvest 
a few with my BB gun.

  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else 
looks?

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/
- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 PM
Subject: [VFB] Black Hackle


  I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black 
Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad  
de...@conranch.com and had him send me a saddle.
  I got it the other day and I am real pleased with a natural 
Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied 
with the feathers.
  Arkansas Tony
 







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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Joyce Westphal
When you look at Denny's natural black feathers, you will note that there
are bits of green and red and even purples apparent as you look at them in
the sunshine.  IN nature, colors are never true according to AK Best. I
prefer natural black feathers, but, when I dye them myself, I use the hair
dye but I also put a bit of green or red in the bath. You can start by first
dying them a light green or you can mix the colors. Sometimes you want a bit
of a purple black hue (such as starling feathers have naturally) and even
overdying white feather that you've done purple and then black, while OK,
for me don't produce the wonderful hue that starlings have. I'd be
interested in the experience of others. Joyce

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

  The one person that would give us the right answer is Joyce.

 Any ideas Joyce?

 Thank you,
 Alan Di Somma

 Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?

 http://www.azflyfishing.net/

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com
 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:42 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

   Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a true black or
 is my memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe I should forget
 the whole thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. LOL
 Tony

 --- On *Mon, 1/18/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net* wrote:


 From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM

  Funny you are in need of the black hackle.
 I just bought a bottle of black hair dye and am going to dye a white on
 black.
 I want to use it for bass flies.

 I have lots of grackles around here and I am half tempted to harvest a few
 with my BB gun.

 Thank you,
 Alan Di Somma

 Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?

 http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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 *From:* Anthony Spezio http://mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com
 *To:* 
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 *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 PM
 *Subject:* [VFB] Black Hackle

   I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black Chinese Saddle I
 had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad  
 dennyhttp://mc/compose?to=de...@conranch.com
 @conranch.com http://mc/compose?to=de...@conranch.com and had him send
 me a saddle.
 I got it the other day and I am real pleased with a natural Black saddle.
 Really nice long feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied with the
 feathers.
 Arkansas Tony

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2010-01-19 Thread Jimmy D. Moore

I'll be using some of my fly fishing poems
 stuff for the next few days.  Hope you
enjoy them.

JIMMY D

FELLOWSHIP OF THE LONG ROD

I have my casting rods, my spinning rods
and fly rods galore.

My fly rods I keep in a standing rack while
others are propped up behind my workshop
door.

I have flies for this and flies for that.  I even
have flies that will catch a yellow cat.

Some of my flies are big and some are quite
Small, but when my friends see them, they're
usually appalled.

Why can't we give our flies a simple name,
like Green Fly, or Blue Fly or Moth and Flame.

The Purists shake their heads with a snort and
express their snobbishness by naming theirs
The Beetle of Le Tort.

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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Harmen Boshuis
I have had good results dying black with hackle that was first dyed olive. Used 
Rit (powder) dye. Tried the liquid but it did not work well.

Harmen

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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Anthony Spezio
Actually Denny sent me two black saddles, one is a true black and the other is 
more of a Black Dunn with gold flecks in it in a number of the feathers. A 
bonus,both saddles have a load of soft hackle body feathers .
Tony

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From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:09 AM

When you look at Denny's natural black feathers, you will note that there are 
bits of green and red and even purples apparent as you look at them in the 
sunshine.  IN nature, colors are never true according to AK Best. I prefer 
natural black feathers, but, when I dye them myself, I use the hair dye but I 
also put a bit of green or red in the bath. You can start by first dying them a 
light green or you can mix the colors. Sometimes you want a bit of a purple 
black hue (such as starling feathers have naturally) and even overdying white 
feather that you've done purple and then black, while OK, for me don't produce 
the wonderful hue that starlings have. I'd be interested in the experience of 
others. Joyce

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:






The one person that would give us the right answer 
is Joyce.
 
Any ideas Joyce?
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger 
than everyone else looks?
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:42 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
  

  


  Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a 
true black or is my memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe 
I should forget the whole thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. 
LOL
Tony

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net 
wrote:


From: 
  Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM


  
  

  Funny you are in need of the black 
  hackle.
  I just bought a bottle of black hair dye 
  and am going to dye a white on black.
  I want to use it for bass 
  flies.
   
  I have lots of grackles around here and I 
  am half tempted to harvest a few with my BB gun.
   
  Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
   
  Why is it that at class reunions you feel 
  younger than everyone else looks?
   
  http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  
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Cc: 
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Sent: 
Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 PM
Subject: 
[VFB] Black Hackle



  
  
I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and 
  the Black Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted 
  Denny Conrad  de...@conranch.com and 
  had him send me a saddle.
I got it the other day and I am 
  real pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long 
  feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied with the 
  feathers.
Arkansas 
Tony





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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Alan Di Somma
Joyce:

Where do you get the purple.
Is that from grape kool aide?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joyce Westphal 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle


  When you look at Denny's natural black feathers, you will note that there are 
bits of green and red and even purples apparent as you look at them in the 
sunshine.  IN nature, colors are never true according to AK Best. I prefer 
natural black feathers, but, when I dye them myself, I use the hair dye but I 
also put a bit of green or red in the bath. You can start by first dying them a 
light green or you can mix the colors. Sometimes you want a bit of a purple 
black hue (such as starling feathers have naturally) and even overdying white 
feather that you've done purple and then black, while OK, for me don't produce 
the wonderful hue that starlings have. I'd be interested in the experience of 
others. Joyce


  On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

The one person that would give us the right answer is Joyce.

Any ideas Joyce?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle


Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a true 
black or is my memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe I should 
forget the whole thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. LOL
Tony

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:


  From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM


  Funny you are in need of the black hackle.
  I just bought a bottle of black hair dye and am going to dye a 
white on black.
  I want to use it for bass flies.

  I have lots of grackles around here and I am half tempted to 
harvest a few with my BB gun.

  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone 
else looks?

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/
- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 PM
Subject: [VFB] Black Hackle


  I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black 
Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad  
de...@conranch.com and had him send me a saddle.
  I got it the other day and I am real pleased with a 
natural Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No financial interest, just 
satisfied with the feathers.
  Arkansas Tony
 







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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Joyce Westphal
I get it from the cake decorating department in the JoAnnes or Michael's or
whatever craft store you have. Be very careful..it is permanent. You can go
online and see the frosting colorants and the amounts to use. I did a bunch
of purple goose biots and used about 1/16 tsp to make a cup of purple dye.
Joyce

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

  Joyce
 Where do you get the purple.
 Is that from grape kool aide?

 Thank you,
 Alan Di Somma

 Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?

 http://www.azflyfishing.net/

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com
 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:09 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

 When you look at Denny's natural black feathers, you will note that there
 are bits of green and red and even purples apparent as you look at them in
 the sunshine.  IN nature, colors are never true according to AK Best. I
 prefer natural black feathers, but, when I dye them myself, I use the hair
 dye but I also put a bit of green or red in the bath. You can start by first
 dying them a light green or you can mix the colors. Sometimes you want a bit
 of a purple black hue (such as starling feathers have naturally) and even
 overdying white feather that you've done purple and then black, while OK,
 for me don't produce the wonderful hue that starlings have. I'd be
 interested in the experience of others. Joyce

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

  The one person that would give us the right answer is Joyce.

 Any ideas Joyce?

 Thank you,
 Alan Di Somma

 Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else
 looks?

 http://www.azflyfishing.net/

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com
 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:42 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

   Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a true black or
 is my memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe I should forget
 the whole thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. LOL
 Tony

 --- On *Mon, 1/18/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net* wrote:


 From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM

  Funny you are in need of the black hackle.
 I just bought a bottle of black hair dye and am going to dye a white on
 black.
 I want to use it for bass flies.

 I have lots of grackles around here and I am half tempted to harvest a few
 with my BB gun.

 Thank you,
 Alan Di Somma

 Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else
 looks?

 http://www.azflyfishing.net/

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Anthony Spezio http://mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com
 *To:* 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com
 *Cc:* 
 flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 PM
 *Subject:* [VFB] Black Hackle

   I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black Chinese Saddle
 I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad  
 dennyhttp://mc/compose?to=de...@conranch.com
 @conranch.com http://mc/compose?to=de...@conranch.com and had him send
 me a saddle.
 I got it the other day and I am real pleased with a natural Black saddle.
 Really nice long feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied with the
 feathers.
 Arkansas Tony

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