RE: [VFB] VFB Is the VFB slowly dying? Your idea to revitalize VFB
I think I came to this list via the FFF. Admittedly, I haven't been participating as much either on the list or @ my fly desk. Hopefully, that will change in the new year. J -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Zillmann Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 6:02 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Is the VFB slowly dying? Your idea to revitalize VFB Hi Jimmy, my ideas are quite simple on this matter. 1. this is our list. (some patronage from Byard, for sure). But it's our. So, we are responsible for the list, and if/when (always messing up with these words) we like the list and the gang, we should start something on the list. Like Don e.g. report about new materials, fishing reports, ff-news you read somewhere, etc. And if/when we see these sort of posts on the list.. Start a discussion. 2. We need some marketing for the list. In the old days, this advertising instrument was the VFB Website. It would be great, if we could find a way to revitalize it. So, that others can find us and join the group. I think this is important, because newbes (list newbees, maybe ff newbees), will add new ideas, questions, flavor etc. to the gang, So my question is: @Byard, any idea, when it will be possible to revitalize the VFB Box? If this is not possible, we should try to start a new page, maybe in the Google-world there is a free opportunity for such things. Rene On 12/30/2010 10:56 PM, ray...@earthlink.net wrote: TO: VFB MEMBERS FROM: VFB LIST MANAGERS: JIMMY D. MOORE, ALLAN FISH, SALTY DAN For several months, I and several other VFB members have felt that our Beloved VFB is slowly dying. There are several indicators that point to the demise of the VFB. (1.) From an alltime high of 600+ members just a few years ago to the current 220 VFB members. Of the 220 members, (2.) I recognize only 41 names/email addresses. I've been on the list for nearly 10 years and pretty well knew all the active members. I had over 70 VFB members on my Joke for the Day list. (3.) There's very few posts each day, not at all like the 15 to 20 we used to have, back in the days when some would complain about the VFB clogging their In-box. (4.) When a question was posed to the list, you could always count on 5 - 10 good sound answers for your problem. Nowadays very few questions get answered. We had some mighty good threads, like spine vs spline, furled vs mono leaders, and on and on. And yes, there was a lot of (5.)good natured Banter'. People now seem to be afraid to kid one another for fear of being taken the wrong way. What I'm getting at is for VFB members to e-mail me off list with your suggestions of how to jump start the VFB and get'er running at full throttle again. I'll take your suggestions and incorporate them into an answer back to you. All suggestions will be listed in my e-mail answer to the group. I don't want the VFB to die. It would definitely put a big hole in things I love most. Before I forget it, if you'll look at the bottom of each VFB post you'll notice that LinesEnd fly shop is the sponsor of the VFB e-mail list. We have Byard Miller, list owner to thank for keeping the VFB available. One last thing. The Virtual Flybox Website no longer exists. It got to the point that Byard just didn't have the time to devote to keeping it current. Best Personal Regards, JIMMY D, ray...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Attn: Tony
Chuck, That will be fine. Tony --- On Tue, 1/4/11, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Attn: Tony To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 10:33 PM Tony: I sure do. You shipped it to me in a great tube. Would carnauba (sp) wax be the thing to rub it down with?? That's what I used on a lot of wooden bowls I have turned on my lathe over the years. Or something else?? Till now, I build a wooden rack, like a gun rack with several slots for several rods, with the rack built to provide support on both ends and in the middle, with the line still (loosely) on the rods in a horizontal manner. So far that seems to have worked well, but I don't know anything about bamboo vs the fiber rods etc. Thanks a lot, Chuck - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Attn: Tony Chuck, Have you got a tube for it. If you have, put it in the tube and store it horizontally with the cap open in a closet where the temperature will stay pretty near the same all the time.In in a cloth bag, be sure you don't tie the bag tight around the rod, leave the tie string loose. Wipe it down and give it a coat of good wax before putting it away, Be careful wiping or polishing the wax that you don't snag a guide and bend the tip too far. Tony --- On Tue, 1/4/11, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: [VFB] Attn: Tony To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:21 PM Tony: Speaking of bamboo rods. I have a question for you?? We heat with wood, and although we always keep a pot of water on top of the water heater the air is always very dry in the wintertime. My wife said she thought the bamboo rod you made me, that all that dry air might make it come unglued or something like that??? It there a certain place, or certain humidity that I should store it?? I hadn't thought of it till she mentioned it yesterday. And with all the bamboo posts, I thought that somebody else might have this same question . Thanks, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] RE: generic nymph patterns
Hi All; Do the generic nymph patterns, such as Pheasant Tail Nymph(PTN), Gold ribbed Hares ear(GRHE), or Red fox squirrel nymph(RFSN). Prince Nymph, etc. Imitate almost any nymph or, is each type of generic nymph suited to different species? Thanks in advance; Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: generic nymph patterns
My thinking is that PTN's imitate mayfly nymphs, the hares ear can be tied ti imitate anything. To be honest, it depends how you tye the fly. Ashley On 5 Jan 2011 17:50, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All; Do the generic nymph patterns, such as Pheasant Tail Nymph(PTN), Gold ribbed Hares ear(GRHE), or Red fox squirrel nymph(RFSN). Prince Nymph, etc. Imitate almost any nymph or, is each type of generic nymph suited to different species? Thanks in advance; Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
For the last month I have been tying up wooly buggers in different styles. First I experimented using Chinese Crystal beads I found at the craft store, (I posted a picture of some of them). Then I tied up a bunch of buggers Chili Pepper style: A couple dozen using Tony's colors, then a bunch more using similar materials but different colors, but all using the same basic elements: plucked marabou tail, metallic tinsel chenille body, stiff short dry fly hackle, a bead, and a bright, fluorescent orange collar. I tied some with red, and red beads (Red Hot Chili Peppers?), Olives, blacks, light olive,(Green and Roasted Chilies?) maroon, etc. After that, I experimented with a bunch of flies using spectrumized Canadian Style mohair bodies in various colors, and lately I have been tying a mohair fly on a curved hopper hook with crystal flash ribbing, and have been trimming the mohair so it looks as much like a hackled fly as a mohair fly. It is much thinner than the other buggers and looks like a passable damsel fly or dragon fly imitation. Lately I have been doing a lot more stillwater fishing than river fishing, so I like having a good selection of buggers in various sizes and styles. Any suggestions for buggers? Do any of you have a favorite bugger pattern you would like to tell me about? When I can't stand tying buggers any more, I will tie up the usual suspects: Pheasant Tails, Gold Ribbed Hare's ears, RS-2s and Prince Nymphs in various sizes. I also tie up a PT/BHGRHE combo, by using PT for the tail, back and wingcase, but the usual Hare's Ear dressing for everything else. I don't know if it makes any difference to the fish, but I like the way it looks. I will also be tying up some chironomids, I had some luck fishing with them in still water last spring, and am going to try to duplicate the success this year. Tom On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Hi Tony, lol,.. you know, I like single foot guides on lighter rods. Less weight from the guides themselves, less wraps, and I feel, that I have more control in the forecast. For the color, well. Black has less light reflection that silver ones. And I'm sure black guides are less visible to the fish. To be honest, the dealer where I got the guides had only the black ones for me... G Rene On 01/05/2011 12:15 AM, Anthony Spezio wrote: BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making as color preserver is to wraps. LOL Tony --- On *Tue, 1/4/11, Rene Zillmann /rene.zillm...@t-online.de/* wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 3:19 PM Guides to a rod blank Recipe: Hook: a pacbay blanc, sz. 5 wt. Guides: Black, single foot Thread: dark olive Varnish: Epoxy Rene Rene On 01/04/2011 03:59 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Hi Scott, no problem. You are not the first one in the trap... G Rene On 01/05/2011 03:28 AM, Scott Bearden wrote: Ooops. My sincere apologies Rene! Scott On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com mailto:bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Rene is a HE from Germany. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
I was just kidding. Tony --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 1:43 PM Hi Tony, lol,.. you know, I like single foot guides on lighter rods. Less weight from the guides themselves, less wraps, and I feel, that I have more control in the forecast. For the color, well. Black has less light reflection that silver ones. And I'm sure black guides are less visible to the fish. To be honest, the dealer where I got the guides had only the black ones for me... G Rene On 01/05/2011 12:15 AM, Anthony Spezio wrote: BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making as color preserver is to wraps. LOL Tony --- On Tue, 1/4/11, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 3:19 PM Guides to a rod blank Recipe: Hook: a pacbay blanc, sz. 5 wt. Guides: Black, single foot Thread: dark olive Varnish: Epoxy Rene Rene On 01/04/2011 03:59 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Unfortunately, I haven't been tying. As far as sizes go, I've caught trout on everything from a 26 to a 6J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Blake-Hedges Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:59 PM To: virtual flybox Subject: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Hi Tom; I have two others, 1st I tie a chili pepper variation that works great for bluegills, sz12 2x nymph hook with a 6/0 red glass craft bead. I also keep the marabou tail short and stubby ala Tony Spezio method. Second is a MD pattern, Jay Sheppard's Pautuxent Speacial, both bead head and non beadhead versions sizes 6 thru 12, typically 3x or 4x streamer hook (http://www.dsflies.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=215) I've caught bass,bluegill, and Pickeral on this pattern. Wayneb --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Tom Davenport t...@comcast.net wrote: From: Tom Davenport t...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 2:27 PM For the last month I have been tying up wooly buggers in different styles. First I experimented using Chinese Crystal beads I found at the craft store, (I posted a picture of some of them). Then I tied up a bunch of buggers Chili Pepper style: A couple dozen using Tony's colors, then a bunch more using similar materials but different colors, but all using the same basic elements: plucked marabou tail, metallic tinsel chenille body, stiff short dry fly hackle, a bead, and a bright, fluorescent orange collar. I tied some with red, and red beads (Red Hot Chili Peppers?), Olives, blacks, light olive,(Green and Roasted Chilies?) maroon, etc. After that, I experimented with a bunch of flies using spectrumized Canadian Style mohair bodies in various colors, and lately I have been tying a mohair fly on a curved hopper hook with crystal flash ribbing, and have been trimming the mohair so it looks as much like a hackled fly as a mohair fly. It is much thinner than the other buggers and looks like a passable damsel fly or dragon fly imitation. Lately I have been doing a lot more stillwater fishing than river fishing, so I like having a good selection of buggers in various sizes and styles. Any suggestions for buggers? Do any of you have a favorite bugger pattern you would like to tell me about? When I can't stand tying buggers any more, I will tie up the usual suspects: Pheasant Tails, Gold Ribbed Hare's ears, RS-2s and Prince Nymphs in various sizes. I also tie up a PT/BHGRHE combo, by using PT for the tail, back and wingcase, but the usual Hare's Ear dressing for everything else. I don't know if it makes any difference to the fish, but I like the way it looks. I will also be tying up some chironomids, I had some luck fishing with them in still water last spring, and am going to try to duplicate the success this year. Tom On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying????
Beside of wrapping the rod, I'll start to ty a box of salmon flies. Wife is planning a trip for salmon with me. Got some books about it for xmas, looks like a great trip Rene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Tom: Last year, I tied articulated buggers for a swap, and then, I caught quite a few bass with them. here's a pic, Chuck - Original Message - From: Tom Davenport To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? For the last month I have been tying up wooly buggers in different styles. First I experimented using Chinese Crystal beads I found at the craft store, (I posted a picture of some of them). Then I tied up a bunch of buggers Chili Pepper style: A couple dozen using Tony's colors, then a bunch more using similar materials but different colors, but all using the same basic elements: plucked marabou tail, metallic tinsel chenille body, stiff short dry fly hackle, a bead, and a bright, fluorescent orange collar. I tied some with red, and red beads (Red Hot Chili Peppers?), Olives, blacks, light olive,(Green and Roasted Chilies?) maroon, etc. After that, I experimented with a bunch of flies using spectrumized Canadian Style mohair bodies in various colors, and lately I have been tying a mohair fly on a curved hopper hook with crystal flash ribbing, and have been trimming the mohair so it looks as much like a hackled fly as a mohair fly. It is much thinner than the other buggers and looks like a passable damsel fly or dragon fly imitation. Lately I have been doing a lot more stillwater fishing than river fishing, so I like having a good selection of buggers in various sizes and styles. Any suggestions for buggers? Do any of you have a favorite bugger pattern you would like to tell me about? When I can't stand tying buggers any more, I will tie up the usual suspects: Pheasant Tails, Gold Ribbed Hare's ears, RS-2s and Prince Nymphs in various sizes. I also tie up a PT/BHGRHE combo, by using PT for the tail, back and wingcase, but the usual Hare's Ear dressing for everything else. I don't know if it makes any difference to the fish, but I like the way it looks. I will also be tying up some chironomids, I had some luck fishing with them in still water last spring, and am going to try to duplicate the success this year. Tom On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3359 - Release Date: 01/04/11 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.comattachment: articulated woolly bugger black.jpg
RE: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
I had a black single foot guide once, had to carry him across the rocks. From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Bearden Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 5:25 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? Tony, Well she could go really old school and use the hanging ring guides. That would get a lot of double takes on a graphite rod! Scott On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making as color preserver is to wraps. LOL Tony --- On Tue, 1/4/11, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 3:19 PM Guides to a rod blank Recipe: Hook: a pacbay blanc, sz. 5 wt. Guides: Black, single foot Thread: dark olive Varnish: Epoxy Rene Rene On 01/04/2011 03:59 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com http://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com http://mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
It is a personal thing, I just don't like them. I guess I was weened on Snake Guides. Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap. Again we do what we want to do and what pleases us. Tony --- On Tue, 1/4/11, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:37 PM Hi Tony; BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making Why??? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
It is a personal thing, I just don't like them. I guess I was weened on Snake Guides. Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap. I made one rod with single foot guides quite a few years back (okay, probably 30!). Never again. Even though they were tightly wrapped and had several coats of epoxy on them, I had a guide slip out. I lost the guide, but since it was the only fly rod I had, I went out fishing with it and derned if another guide didn't come out of the wraps. Ill stick with Snake guides, thank you. But of course, I'm old and crotchety. VBG a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Not to be a smart butt, they were not wrapped right. I dislike wrapping them. There are several types, I have used two types. If I was going to use them, I would use the Arrow head type. Tony --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 5:02 PM It is a personal thing, I just don't like them. I guess I was weened on Snake Guides. Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap. I made one rod with single foot guides quite a few years back (okay, probably 30!). Never again. Even though they were tightly wrapped and had several coats of epoxy on them, I had a guide slip out. I lost the guide, but since it was the only fly rod I had, I went out fishing with it and derned if another guide didn't come out of the wraps. Ill stick with Snake guides, thank you. But of course, I'm old and crotchety. VBG a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Not to be a smart butt, they were not wrapped right. Sorry, teacher. VBG I dislike wrapping them. There are several types, I have used two types. If I was going to use them, I would use the Arrow head type. These were straight spade-foot. I think the arrowhead would have not pulled loose. But they were a pain in the whatever to put on. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Wrapping single foot guides.
The key to wrapping single foot guides is to start the wrap on the blank, then wrap the thread over the guide foot and then place a small number of wraps (3-4) immediately behind the foot and the guide. This helps to lock it in place. Then coat the wrap with whatever finish you are using and one has to look real hard to see the wraps behind the foot. I've never had a single foot guide that I have personally wrapped come loose ...yet! Neville Gosling _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio Sent: January-05-11 3:43 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? Not to be a smart butt, they were not wrapped right. I dislike wrapping them. There are several types, I have used two types. If I was going to use them, I would use the Arrow head type. Tony --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 5:02 PM It is a personal thing, I just don't like them. I guess I was weened on Snake Guides. Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap. I made one rod with single foot guides quite a few years back (okay, probably 30!). Never again. Even though they were tightly wrapped and had several coats of epoxy on them, I had a guide slip out. I lost the guide, but since it was the only fly rod I had, I went out fishing with it and derned if another guide didn't come out of the wraps. Ill stick with Snake guides, thank you. But of course, I'm old and crotchety. VBG a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
It is a pain in the butt if you don't like them. If you like them then it is not a pain. Tony --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 5:58 PM Not to be a smart butt, they were not wrapped right. Sorry, teacher. VBG I dislike wrapping them. There are several types, I have used two types. If I was going to use them, I would use the Arrow head type. These were straight spade-foot. I think the arrowhead would have not pulled loose. But they were a pain in the whatever to put on. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
I had a single Black-foot guide once. Is that close enough? DonO Did you try to get him to wade barefooted to clean his single black foot?? a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Thanks for the tip and the link, lots of good ideas there. On Jan 5, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi Tom; I have two others, 1st I tie a chili pepper variation that works great for bluegills, sz12 2x nymph hook with a 6/0 red glass craft bead. I also keep the marabou tail short and stubby ala Tony Spezio method. Second is a MD pattern, Jay Sheppard's Pautuxent Speacial, both bead head and non beadhead versions sizes 6 thru 12, typically 3x or 4x streamer hook (http://www.dsflies.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=215) I've caught bass,bluegill, and Pickeral on this pattern. Wayneb --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Tom Davenport t...@comcast.net wrote: From: Tom Davenport t...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 2:27 PM For the last month I have been tying up wooly buggers in different styles. First I experimented using Chinese Crystal beads I found at the craft store, (I posted a picture of some of them). Then I tied up a bunch of buggers Chili Pepper style: A couple dozen using Tony's colors, then a bunch more using similar materials but different colors, but all using the same basic elements: plucked marabou tail, metallic tinsel chenille body, stiff short dry fly hackle, a bead, and a bright, fluorescent orange collar. I tied some with red, and red beads (Red Hot Chili Peppers?), Olives, blacks, light olive,(Green and Roasted Chilies?) maroon, etc. After that, I experimented with a bunch of flies using spectrumized Canadian Style mohair bodies in various colors, and lately I have been tying a mohair fly on a curved hopper hook with crystal flash ribbing, and have been trimming the mohair so it looks as much like a hackled fly as a mohair fly. It is much thinner than the other buggers and looks like a passable damsel fly or dragon fly imitation. Lately I have been doing a lot more stillwater fishing than river fishing, so I like having a good selection of buggers in various sizes and styles. Any suggestions for buggers? Do any of you have a favorite bugger pattern you would like to tell me about? When I can't stand tying buggers any more, I will tie up the usual suspects: Pheasant Tails, Gold Ribbed Hare's ears, RS-2s and Prince Nymphs in various sizes. I also tie up a PT/BHGRHE combo, by using PT for the tail, back and wingcase, but the usual Hare's Ear dressing for everything else. I don't know if it makes any difference to the fish, but I like the way it looks. I will also be tying up some chironomids, I had some luck fishing with them in still water last spring, and am going to try to duplicate the success this year. Tom On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Cool! What did you attach them with? On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chuck Alexander wrote: Tom: Last year, I tied articulated buggers for a swap, and then, I caught quite a few bass with them. here's a pic, Chuck - Original Message - From: Tom Davenport To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? For the last month I have been tying up wooly buggers in different styles. First I experimented using Chinese Crystal beads I found at the craft store, (I posted a picture of some of them). Then I tied up a bunch of buggers Chili Pepper style: A couple dozen using Tony's colors, then a bunch more using similar materials but different colors, but all using the same basic elements: plucked marabou tail, metallic tinsel chenille body, stiff short dry fly hackle, a bead, and a bright, fluorescent orange collar. I tied some with red, and red beads (Red Hot Chili Peppers?), Olives, blacks, light olive,(Green and Roasted Chilies?) maroon, etc. After that, I experimented with a bunch of flies using spectrumized Canadian Style mohair bodies in various colors, and lately I have been tying a mohair fly on a curved hopper hook with crystal flash ribbing, and have been trimming the mohair so it looks as much like a hackled fly as a mohair fly. It is much thinner than the other buggers and looks like a passable damsel fly or dragon fly imitation. Lately I have been doing a lot more stillwater fishing than river fishing, so I like having a good selection of buggers in various sizes and styles. Any suggestions for buggers? Do any of you have a favorite bugger pattern you would like to tell me about? When I can't stand tying buggers any more, I will tie up the usual suspects: Pheasant Tails, Gold Ribbed Hare's ears, RS-2s and Prince Nymphs in various sizes. I also tie up a PT/BHGRHE combo, by using PT for the tail, back and wingcase, but the usual Hare's Ear dressing for everything else. I don't know if it makes any difference to the fish, but I like the way it looks. I will also be tying up some chironomids, I had some luck fishing with them in still water last spring, and am going to try to duplicate the success this year. Tom On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3359 - Release Date: 01/04/11 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.comarticulated woolly bugger black.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
