Re: [VFB] Streamer
I am going to give Red a try. Tony From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Streamer Red or a dark purple for the tail, then the beard could either match or be red. PeggyOn 12/21/2011 8:50 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote: What color would you suggest. Tony *From:* Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Streamer That is what I am thinking. Tony *From:* phxflyt...@cox.net phxflyt...@cox.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2011 6:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Streamer Tony: Perhaps a different color biot for the tail? Thank You, Alan Di Somma You know you'r a redneck when... . *From:* Anthony Spezio mailto:bambot...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:19 PM *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com mailto:flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [VFB] Streamer I need to tie some large flies for a couple of fly plates. This is a sample of one of the streamers I plan on tying. I am not totally satisfied with it so I am open to comments on any aspect of it before I tie another like it. I am open o all comments especally the negitave ones.. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1890 / Virus Database: 2109/4694 - Release Date: 12/21/11 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Re: Streamer
Hi Tony, From being in the northeast; tying and fishing streamers, I will add a few comments. This fly needs some peacock herl, topping, or bucktail to fill in the open space...of course becoming Carrie Stevens Ghost like. The first thing I always look at are the finish on the heads especially for plate flies. I recommend using some UTC black fine thread. Untwist this thread so it lays flat sort of like very mini floss. You have to untwist with a slight bobbin spin every 5-10 wraps. This allows you to make a sweet head with no imperfections by laying the thread to fill in uneveness. Then use 1 coat of penetrating cement like flexament or sally hansens. then apply 2 -3 coats of hard as hull head cement. Give at least 4-6 hours in between coats. Or you can use rod building epoxy once (this is less non-yellowing over time) This type of finished head commands attention. The marabou throat also looks out of place. I would prefer to see a feather or barbule throat. Instead of the chart tail, use a crest topping - it will also look regal. Marabou is fantastic for streamers and it is fun as you can add a lot of flash. I like to use marabou as an underwing. You can wet it first before you tie it in and when it dries it has a little less bulk and complements both bucktail and feather wings. A marabou throat looks more appealing with this type of wing construction. I just tied up some magog smelts for a client and I need to take some pictures of what I am talking about. Certainly like the jungle cock cheek and eye. This also looks great on a lighter color wing. Where as silver pheasant makes a great cheek for dark wings Can't wait to see your next one. Chappy. On Dec 21, 5:19 pm, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I need to tie some large flies for a couple of fly plates. This is a sample of one of the streamers I plan on tying. I am not totally satisfied with it so I am open to comments on any aspect of it before I tie another like it. I am open o all comments especally the negitave ones.. Arkansas Tony Streamer fot Plate.JPG 293KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: Streamer
Chappy, Thanks for the info, Some of the comments you made here have been made by others too. I see I need a lot of improvement on this. This is my first attempt in tying this type of fly though I have been tying for many years. Thanks again. Tony From: Chappy aavidcha...@gmail.com To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:50 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Streamer Hi Tony, From being in the northeast; tying and fishing streamers, I will add a few comments. This fly needs some peacock herl, topping, or bucktail to fill in the open space...of course becoming Carrie Stevens Ghost like. The first thing I always look at are the finish on the heads especially for plate flies. I recommend using some UTC black fine thread. Untwist this thread so it lays flat sort of like very mini floss. You have to untwist with a slight bobbin spin every 5-10 wraps. This allows you to make a sweet head with no imperfections by laying the thread to fill in uneveness. Then use 1 coat of penetrating cement like flexament or sally hansens. then apply 2 -3 coats of hard as hull head cement. Give at least 4-6 hours in between coats. Or you can use rod building epoxy once (this is less non-yellowing over time) This type of finished head commands attention. The marabou throat also looks out of place. I would prefer to see a feather or barbule throat. Instead of the chart tail, use a crest topping - it will also look regal. Marabou is fantastic for streamers and it is fun as you can add a lot of flash. I like to use marabou as an underwing. You can wet it first before you tie it in and when it dries it has a little less bulk and complements both bucktail and feather wings. A marabou throat looks more appealing with this type of wing construction. I just tied up some magog smelts for a client and I need to take some pictures of what I am talking about. Certainly like the jungle cock cheek and eye. This also looks great on a lighter color wing. Where as silver pheasant makes a great cheek for dark wings Can't wait to see your next one. Chappy. On Dec 21, 5:19 pm, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I need to tie some large flies for a couple of fly plates. This is a sample of one of the streamers I plan on tying. I am not totally satisfied with it so I am open to comments on any aspect of it before I tie another like it. I am open o all comments especally the negitave ones.. Arkansas Tony Streamer fot Plate.JPG 293KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] CHRISTMAS SEASON
Tom, Are my E mail to you off list getting to you. Tony From: Tom Swahn vtwhitetai...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] CHRISTMAS SEASON ..and a very Merry Christmas to you too Tony, and all on the list, from rainy Vermont!! sidenote...Tony..i ran into the Constable of Granville/Rochester the other day in BJ's off all places and mentioned i'd be calling him. i hope to get ahold of him and the info you're looking for shortly! Will email it offlistpictures as well offlist too! Tom in Vermont On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:02 PM, phxflyt...@cox.net wrote: Right back at ya Tony. From sunny Phoenix. Thank You, Alan Di Somma You know you'r a redneck when... . From: Anthony Spezio Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:07 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [VFB] CHRISTMAS SEASON I want to wish all on the list a very special and safe CHRISTMAS Season. May the New Year be a better one for all of us. Remember, the Reason for the Season. Arkansas Tony No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1890 / Virus Database: 2109/4694 - Release Date: 12/21/11-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- I never met a true angler who is not by nature at least a somewhat hopeful person. Charles Gauvin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY
These brook trout will strike any fly you present, provided you don't get close enough to present it. Dick Blaylock -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: Streamer
Chappy, I am thinking about using Peacock Sword for the tail instead of Biots. Should I have the curve up or down. Also think of Peacock Herl for the throat what do you think. Was thinking about a bit of a tag of Black Ostrich and tying in the tail then a bit more Black Ostrich in front of the tail tie in between the tail and body. Will have to pick up some UTC Black I really don't like to tie with it. Tony From: Chappy aavidcha...@gmail.com To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:50 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Streamer Hi Tony, From being in the northeast; tying and fishing streamers, I will add a few comments. This fly needs some peacock herl, topping, or bucktail to fill in the open space...of course becoming Carrie Stevens Ghost like. The first thing I always look at are the finish on the heads especially for plate flies. I recommend using some UTC black fine thread. Untwist this thread so it lays flat sort of like very mini floss. You have to untwist with a slight bobbin spin every 5-10 wraps. This allows you to make a sweet head with no imperfections by laying the thread to fill in uneveness. Then use 1 coat of penetrating cement like flexament or sally hansens. then apply 2 -3 coats of hard as hull head cement. Give at least 4-6 hours in between coats. Or you can use rod building epoxy once (this is less non-yellowing over time) This type of finished head commands attention. The marabou throat also looks out of place. I would prefer to see a feather or barbule throat. Instead of the chart tail, use a crest topping - it will also look regal. Marabou is fantastic for streamers and it is fun as you can add a lot of flash. I like to use marabou as an underwing. You can wet it first before you tie it in and when it dries it has a little less bulk and complements both bucktail and feather wings. A marabou throat looks more appealing with this type of wing construction. I just tied up some magog smelts for a client and I need to take some pictures of what I am talking about. Certainly like the jungle cock cheek and eye. This also looks great on a lighter color wing. Where as silver pheasant makes a great cheek for dark wings Can't wait to see your next one. Chappy. On Dec 21, 5:19 pm, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I need to tie some large flies for a couple of fly plates. This is a sample of one of the streamers I plan on tying. I am not totally satisfied with it so I am open to comments on any aspect of it before I tie another like it. I am open o all comments especally the negitave ones.. Arkansas Tony Streamer fot Plate.JPG 293KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] re: whip finishing
Am I alone? I use a Materilli whip finisher for smaller sized flies, hand whip finish for bigger flies, and use the end of my bodkin which has a hole in the end, simple loop half whip times 3 over really tiny flies. For me, the finish is determined by the size of fly and ease of whip finishing it. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] re: whip finishing
I agree 100% woth Joyce. Denny On 12/22/2011 4:10 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Am I alone? I use a Materilli whip finisher for smaller sized flies, hand whip finish for bigger flies, and use the end of my bodkin which has a hole in the end, simple loop half whip times 3 over really tiny flies. For me, the finish is determined by the size of fly and ease of whip finishing it. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.comattachment: Denny.vcf
Re: [VFB] re: whip finishing
Me too. Thank You, Alan Di Somma You know you'r a redneck when... . -Original Message- From: Conranch Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:04 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] re: whip finishing I agree 100% woth Joyce. Denny On 12/22/2011 4:10 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Am I alone? I use a Materilli whip finisher for smaller sized flies, hand whip finish for bigger flies, and use the end of my bodkin which has a hole in the end, simple loop half whip times 3 over really tiny flies. For me, the finish is determined by the size of fly and ease of whip finishing it. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1890 / Virus Database: 2109/4697 - Release Date: 12/22/11 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] re: whip finishing
Me too. I just don't tie that many tiny flies - can't find 'em when I try to tie them on the leader! A. I agree 100% woth Joyce. Denny On 12/22/2011 4:10 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Am I alone? I use a Materilli whip finisher for smaller sized flies, hand whip finish for bigger flies, and use the end of my bodkin which has a hole in the end, simple loop half whip times 3 over really tiny flies. For me, the finish is determined by the size of fly and ease of whip finishing it. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:Denny.vcf (TEXT/ttxt) (008FE49C) -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
