[VFB] hook swap

2012-01-05 Thread Rick Zieger
Hook Swap 
1. Rick Zieger
2. Don Ordes
3. Chuck Alexander
4. Chuck Haase
5. Joyce Westphal
6. Allan Fish
7. Wayne Blake -Hedges

8. Eric Worm
9. Ron Boutin
10. Peggy Brenner
 
anyone else interersted?
Probably will not order for a couple of weeks.  Other 6things inthe way.
 
Rick 

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[VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2012-01-05 Thread Jimmy D. Moore
I fished a little while ago with a man, not in his first youth, who had 
wasted the flower of his life on business and golf and gardening and 
motoring and marriage, and had in his way postponed his intiation to 
trout fishing far too long!


Arthur Ransome On Giving Advice To Beginners [1929

. . . perhaps the greatest satisfaction on the first day of the season 
is the knowledge in the evening that the whole of the rest of the season 
is to come.


Arthur Ransome The First Day At The River (1929)


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Fishing  Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe 
River Trout Unlimited,   North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
Texas Fish  Game Magazine, VFB  FFW Moderator, Scout 
Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html
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[VFB] ] QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2012-01-05 Thread Neville Gosling

Jimmy:

Love those quotes from Arthur Ransome!

Neville (Nev) Gosling



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[VFB] Re: hook swap

2012-01-05 Thread Bob Hendry
Rick,

Please add me to your list.  This sounds like a terrific idea.
Thanks1

Cheers,
Bob Hendry
Southern Maryland

On Jan 5, 9:30 am, Rick Zieger rdzieg...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hook Swap
 1. Rick Zieger
 2. Don Ordes
 3. Chuck Alexander
 4. Chuck Haase
 5. Joyce Westphal
 6. Allan Fish
 7. Wayne Blake -Hedges

 8. Eric Worm
 9. Ron Boutin
 10. Peggy Brenner

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Re: [VFB] ] QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2012-01-05 Thread Jimmy D. Moore

MORE TO COME.

Neville Gosling wrote:


Jimmy:

Love those quotes from Arthur Ransome!

Neville (Nev) Gosling





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Fishing  Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe 
River Trout Unlimited,   North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
Texas Fish  Game Magazine, VFB  FFW Moderator, Scout 
Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html
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[VFB] Original hook-swap background, for those entering Part 1.

2012-01-05 Thread Don Ordes

- Original Message - 
From: Don Ordes 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Hook Swap- new numbers, excise tax


To those interested in the hook co-op swap:

1.  I just called Hagan's to check on this 10% excise tax thing, because I've 
never had to pay that on products before:

Federal Tax Exemptions: (from the web)
a.. Manufacturers' unions and industry lobbyists work to reduce the amount of 
excise taxes levied on industries, goods and services. The United States 
Congress passes new exemptions and tax refunds each year, while earlier 
exemptions expire or are extended. Domestically made and imported fishing and 
archery products are exempt from federal excise taxes, with later legislation 
exempting certain types of wooden arrows. 

It doesn't look to me like Hagan's should be collecting these taxes at all, but 
they are.  She says the buyer could fill out a tax form and not have to pay it- 
too much trouble.  

She also said that there were errors on the pricing, and they just happened to 
be the hooks on my list.  Go figure how that happened...are they reading these 
posts?  But the cross-over price between models is still comparable.

The price hikes applied to #'s 300, 135,  125.  The hikes average about 1 cent 
per hook.  #320  305 did not change.

Here's my comparison math- check me*:

Hagan's:  1000 #12 Mod. #125 (emerger hook) @ $38.04 =  3.8 cents per hook.

My catalog from major wholesale supplier for 25 #12 similar hooks is $3.28 = 
13.12 cents per hook. 
One web retailer lists similar hooks for $5.99 ($6) for 25 hooks which is 24 
cents per hook.**
Cabela's lists a similar hooks for a 50-pak at $6, which is half at that at 12 
cents per hook.

**You can buy 100 hooks from them for $18.00 and that would be 18 cents per 
hook.

The #18 same hook (same mod. #) went up to $41 per 1000 at Hagan's, which would 
be 4.1 cents per hook.

*Unless my pre-surgery drugs are still working, my math seems correct.

Those interested can do some research to see if they can find comparable hooks 
at a more attractive price.

2.   ORDERING the hooks should be done by the meister, from my conversations 
with Hagan's.  Having 10 buyers for one order would be a lot of paperwork they 
say, and 10 orders would be 10 shipping prices.  A 1000 hooks average would fit 
into a coffee mug on average, so 10 sets would be about a shoe-box +/-. 
We would all have to send $*** to the meister trust that Rick would go through 
with the purchase, and that wouldn't be a problem for me.

*** Total cost for hooks + SH for Rick each package.  Rick needs to buy 100 
baggies large enough to hold 100 of the largest hooks, so we could cover that 
and get our bags with the hooks.

With the price hikes, the hooks are ranging from 3 to 4 cents each.  A 
mentioned, these are probably Dai Riki, which Byard used to sell, which I have 
used and have no complaints.

So I leave it now back in your hands to progress this if you still care to do 
so and think it's worth the effort to do it and work out the bugs for this type 
of co-op swap.  The Whiting co-op swaps were successful, so this should also 
be. 

DonO





  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Zieger 
  To: VFB 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:58 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Hook Swap


  10 swappers.  You order the Hooks from Hagens.  Price does not seem to incle 
the10% tax. Have them shipped to me.
  I am thinking $5.00 for shipping.  When we have everyone signed up I will 
give a date to order the hooks.  that way they all come at the same time.   Two 
weeks to sign up.
  List your name, hook style and size. 
  Rick 

  1. Rick Zieger   style 300  size 14



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Fw: [VFB] PART 2-- Hook Co-op swap like the Whiting Co-op swap- suggestion

2012-01-05 Thread Don Ordes
To the hook-swappers,

This is run like the Whiting co-op hackle swap, so the meister again is key.
I need to get a new catalog, too.

DonO

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From: Don Ordes 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Hook Co-op swap like the Whiting Co-op swap- suggestion


Rick, 

Mine are 1st choice and then options.  I tried to pick the most versatile hooks 
for the bulk of my tying.
This will make a good trial swap- call it the 'trout and small panfish hook 
swap'.  
We can also shoot for (if this works out) a warm-water/bass/panfish swap, and 
then for a saltwater swap, 
but the saltwater hooks are more expensive (but still way less than retail). 

I'll start it off:  (You'll need the catalog or go online- www.Hagansfish.com.) 
 800-541-4586
#320: (Dry fly hooks)
Sizes 10, 12, 14  optional #300 in same sizes OK (tad bit longer)

#280:  (hopper hooks- will also work as Klinkhammer style dries, parachutes)
Sizes 6, 8, 10, 12   optional  Drop to sizes # 10, 12, 14, 16

#270 (Stones and wets)
Sizes 4, 6, 8   (I like these because the fly can be tied undersized for the 
hook, giving a wider range and more holding capability)

These are a starting point only- gotta start somewhere.  10 swappers have to 
settle on 10 hook styles and sizes.
That's why the swaps need to be separated- too many options over the broad span 
of fishing.

DonO
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Zieger 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Hook Co-op swap like the Whiting Co-op swap- suggestion


  I will run this swap.  I need to get the catalogue. 2 weeks to sign up.Tell 
hook style and size.
  I will weight the hooks on a blalance athe University cheistry lab that goes 
to 1/10 of a gram.

  Rick 




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  Subject: Re: [VFB] Hook Co-op swap like the Whiting Co-op swap- suggestion

  Hagen's catalog web site: 
  http://www.hagensfish.com/HagensOrder.aspx?sf=1

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[VFB] Fwd: Fly Rod

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Bliss
REI is having quite a sale on their flyrods.  If anyone is looking for one
here is a good deal.  These are the lower end Redington.  I had one and
used it for years before giving it to my son in law.

http://www.rei.com/product/814680/redington-redfly-4-piece-fly-fishing-rod-2010-closeout



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