Re: [VFB] A few more flies

2015-11-05 Thread Allan Fish

On 11/5/15 8:38 PM, Jack Harford wrote:


Maybe a little little closer to Drake's Wounded Minnow.


You got it!

Al

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Re: Woodturning; was: [VFB] OFF TOPIC in the fishing groups Question???

2015-11-05 Thread Allan Fish

On 11/5/15 11:20 AM, Phxflytyer wrote:

Joyce:

I am not familiar with the term Etsy?

Alan Single-L,

Although I'm not Joyce (obviously), Etsy.com is like eBay but for 
homemade crafts.  Our old friend Claude Freaner sells his wood carvings 
on Etsy.com.


Maybe a simplified description but that's how I view it.

Allan Double-L

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Re: Woodturning; was: [VFB] OFF TOPIC in the fishing groups Question???

2015-11-05 Thread Phxflytyer
Joyce:

I am not familiar with the term Etsy?


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> On Nov 5, 2015, at 4:23 AM, Joyce M Westphal  wrote:
> 
> Knitting bowls are also a good bet.  Check out Etsy for some really nice 
> turned ones. Joyce
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Henk Verhaar  
>> wrote:
>> On woodturning
>> 
>>> On 05/11/15 00:10, Chuck Alexander wrote:
>>> Folks: I recently got a new wood lathe from my wife around the first part 
>>> of May and I’m trying to get up an inventory (most things are selling as 
>>> fast as I can make them, which is a good thing) in order to open myself an 
>>> Etsy store to sell things on. So farm, bowls have been the biggest seller, 
>>> but I want to make some Christmas ornaments (see attached pics), wooden 
>>> eggs (see pics), goblets (see pic), and lastly, my question on this email 
>>> is how many here still use an old fashioned rolling pin for making biscuits 
>>> etc.
>>>  
>>> I’m attaching a pic and would like to know a cpl things about the rolling 
>>> pins #1, would you use it??”
>> Yes. In fact, I have a number of rolling pins that I made myself. Including 
>> an ornamental huge pin made out of figured maple. I have a french pin in 
>> maple and a long straight pin (no handles) in lacewood, as well as a couple 
>> smaller ones. The only one that gets used on a regular basis is the long 
>> straight one (about 40 cm long, 5 cm diameter); used primarily for rolling 
>> pie dough. I also have a very long, thin straight one (2.5 cm / 1 inch 
>> diameter) for rolling pasta in brazilian rosewood.
>> 
>> 
>>> and #2 would you buy one
>> 
>> Well, obviously, no, since I make my own, but if I didn't have a lathe, yes 
>> I would certainly buy one or more rolling pins. But then, I do a fair amount 
>> of baking, and a whole lot of cooking...
>>> if the price were right (probably $20 each
>> Actually, I think a good rolling pin, made out of nice wood, could fetch 
>> more than that.
>>> , but they last forever, for the ones made of common woods like oak, poplar
>> Oak, given its porous nature, would be a bad choice for a rolling pin, I 
>> would think, as would poplar (soft, porous, too light). I would favour the 
>> standards like maple, beech, or walnut.
>> 
>> Another nice little thingie that you can make on the lathe, that would be 
>> perfect to sell at an 'introductory' price level is a 'spurtle' (google that 
>> ;-) ), preferably with the traditional stylized Scottish thistlehead on top. 
>> A few burned rings at the 'grip' section would give 'em character.
>> 
>> Henk
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[VFB] QFTDF

2015-11-05 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail
 "Pride is surely the most unbecoming of all the vices of fishermen."
Henry Van Dyke   "The Fisherman's Guide to Life"
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Re: [VFB] A Few Streamers

2015-11-05 Thread Phxflytyer
Do you have pic?


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> On Nov 4, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
>> On 11/4/15 9:43 PM, Jack Harford wrote:
>> 
>> Playing around at the bench :)
> 
> Great variation on the Everett Drake Wounded Minnow!
> 
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Re: [VFB] Re: SALTWATER SWAP ARRIVALS

2015-11-05 Thread Peggy Brenner
No hurry, you are lucky you got something back from the post office.

Peggy

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Jack Harford 
wrote:

> That's fine Bob. N problem ;)
> On Nov 4, 2015 5:29 PM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/15 5:23 PM, Bob Hendry wrote:
>>
>> I can start re-tying this evening and have them ready to mail again by
>> Friday at the latest.  That is if y'all are willing to hang loose for
>> another week.
>>
>> I'm in no hurry.
>>
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2015-11-05 Thread Don Ordes
And you may catch fish after fish on only one pattern one night (after trying 
lots of patterns), and then go home, stay up late tying a dozen more to fish 
the next night- only to have them not even touch the same exact fly the next 
night- same time, same location, same presentation.  It was a tiny 
yellow/orange streamer, fishing large male ‘bows (2-5lbs) hanging out at the 
launch area. Caught 10 at least the 1st night, fly fell apart. The next night, 
they wanted a peacock renegade with green wire, not gold wire, or red wire, 
or... just green wire.

Like you said, fish can be picky beyond selective.

DonO

From: Jack Harford 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:27 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] QFTD

Yep - it happens to all of us!!

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:01 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:

  I am sure it has happened to all of us. You tye a dozen flies at the same 
tile. All are the same pattern. Tye one on and smash the fish one after 
another. Break off and tye on another one and the fish will not touch it. Try 
another and you start catching fish again.
  Also you might be catching fish on a fly in the morning and then you go out 
in the evening and they will not touch it.
  Tony




  On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:11 AM, Jack Harford 
 wrote:




  Excellent Points Don!! Sometimes I think that with all the reasons why the 
fish don't bite it is a wonder that any fish at all catch our flies. And your 
points reinforce the premise that fish have certain instinctual traits built 
into their character and behavior that effect how, when, and how much they 
feed.  

  Here is Indiana, maybe about 90% of my fishing is done between 7pm and too 
dark to see the fly. Partially because of my job, but mostly because of the 
experience of landing about 80% of the fish during that time. It is also nice 
that there is a nice smallmouth bass creek two blocks from the home. Mornings 
are good too, but I am not much of a morning person :) 

  But again, like Don was saying, each species and even each fish is different 
so the knowledge base is almost infinite. That may be one of the attractions of 
this sport. There is always something more to learn.  The possibility of a fish 
catching the fly increases with the number of casts, time on the water, 
attention to detail, and amount learned while out there (and in the library 
too).

  tight lines,
  Jack

  On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

Nice article, but there are more than 3 or 4 things that affect fish, i.e. 
what matters to them.

Not all fish behave the same way, but all need the 3 mentioned necessities 
to some degree, so I agree to a big extent.

Other factors that affect whether a fish will feed or not:

-Weather- barometric readings affect fish and feeding.
-Lunar cycles- the moon’s cycles affect fish, therefore,
-Day vs night activity, or light sensitivity, or night-time sleep cycles, 
or feeding on a full moon and not at all the day after.
-Fishing pressure – related to shelter as to security, but different, 
especially if the fish are caught and released. They may think the fly is food, 
but that leader tells them not to catch it.
-Water conditions-  pollution, run-offs (muddy), water too warm or too cold 
or changing rapidly.
-Saltwater estuaries- tide is not right, waiting for the tide (no source of 
nourishment until the tide brings din-din to them)
-Deep sea fish- feed is just off, not in mood to eat. Live bait doesn’t 
matter, even boinking them on the nose with it. (Time to find something in the 
cooler to wait it out or head back in.)

Another good discussion. Anybody want to add anything?

DonO

From: Jack Harford 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:36 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] QFTD

Hi Rick, 

Here is an opinion page that was written for our fly fishing club 
newsletter on this subject. Differing opinions gladly accepted :)

Tight lines,
Jack

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:

  "Any man who pits his intelligence against a fish and loses has it 
coming."

  John Steinbeck"The Fisherman's Guide to Life"

  Rick 
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Re: Woodturning; was: [VFB] OFF TOPIC in the fishing groups Question???

2015-11-05 Thread Joyce M Westphal
Knitting bowls are also a good bet.  Check out Etsy for some really nice
turned ones. Joyce

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Henk Verhaar 
wrote:

> On woodturning
>
> On 05/11/15 00:10, Chuck Alexander wrote:
>
> Folks: I recently got a new wood lathe from my wife around the first part
> of May and I’m trying to get up an inventory (most things are selling as
> fast as I can make them, which is a good thing) in order to open myself an
> Etsy store to sell things on. So farm, bowls have been the biggest seller,
> but I want to make some Christmas ornaments (see attached pics), wooden
> eggs (see pics), goblets (see pic), and lastly, my question on this email
> is how many here still use an old fashioned rolling pin for making biscuits
> etc.
>
> I’m attaching a pic and would like to know a cpl things about the rolling
> pins #1, would you use it??”
>
> Yes. In fact, I have a number of rolling pins that I made myself.
> Including an ornamental huge pin made out of figured maple. I have a french
> pin in maple and a long straight pin (no handles) in lacewood, as well as a
> couple smaller ones. The only one that gets used on a regular basis is the
> long straight one (about 40 cm long, 5 cm diameter); used primarily for
> rolling pie dough. I also have a very long, thin straight one (2.5 cm / 1
> inch diameter) for rolling pasta in brazilian rosewood.
>
>
> and #2 would you buy one
>
>
> Well, obviously, no, since I make my own, but if I didn't have a lathe,
> yes I would certainly buy one or more rolling pins. But then, I do a fair
> amount of baking, and a whole lot of cooking...
>
> if the price were right (probably $20 each
>
> Actually, I think a good rolling pin, made out of nice wood, could fetch
> more than that.
>
> , but they last forever, for the ones made of common woods like oak, poplar
>
> Oak, given its porous nature, would be a bad choice for a rolling pin, I
> would think, as would poplar (soft, porous, too light). I would favour the
> standards like maple, beech, or walnut.
>
> Another nice little thingie that you can make on the lathe, that would be
> perfect to sell at an 'introductory' price level is a 'spurtle' (google
> that ;-) ), preferably with the traditional stylized Scottish thistlehead
> on top. A few burned rings at the 'grip' section would give 'em character.
>
> Henk
>
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