Re: [VFB] My messy fly tying bench

2021-08-25 Thread Allan Fish
I must agree with Rene.  I keep looking for what you call “messy”.  I would 
call it perfect - everything you need is within reach.  What more could one 
want?

Al
1014 Iris Ave.
Greenwood, in 46143
(317) 919-3413

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Rene Zillmann  wrote:
> 
> Disagree, Gary. 
> For me it looks well organized. Scissor to the left, spools on top, bobbins 
> right. A nice Danvise in the center. Material on hand. And a place for the 
> finished flies.
> 
> Well, looks like the desk, when I ty with my 3 years old grandkids. How old 
> are you???
> 
> R
> 
> Rene
> 
> On 8/25/21 5:41 PM, Gary Webb wrote:
>> How did this happen?  Don't ask my wife.
>> 
>> The Wiggle Butt Two Headed Hopper is tied on a Never Snag weedless hook. 
>> https://neversnag.com/product-category/neversnag-guardhooks-weedless-fishing-hooks/
>>  
>> 
>>Two things I like about this hook.   First: It is weedless.  One of the 
>> best ways to fish a hopper is to cast it into the weeds on the bank and 
>> gently tug it into the water. I'm very good at getting my fly into the 
>> weeds.  Not so good at getting it out.
>> Second: The weight of the weedguard makes the fly land and float upright.
>> Because of the weight I had to add more foam to keep it floating. A second 
>> head accomplished that.  And I think it still looks natural enough for the 
>> fish. I might try using less foam for a slow sinking hopper.  I've heard 
>> sunken hoppers sometimes work better that the floating ones.
>> 
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Fwd: [VFB] My messy fly tying bench

2021-08-25 Thread Rene Zillmann

Disagree, Gary.

For me it looks well organized. Scissor to the left, spools on top, 
bobbins right. A nice Danvise in the center. Material on hand. And a 
place for the finished flies.


Well, looks like the desk, when I ty with my 3 years old grandkids. How 
old are you???


R

Rene

On 8/25/21 5:41 PM, Gary Webb wrote:

How did this happen?  Don't ask my wife.

The Wiggle Butt Two Headed Hopper is tied on a Never Snag weedless 
hook. 
https://neversnag.com/product-category/neversnag-guardhooks-weedless-fishing-hooks/ 
 
  Two things I like about this hook.   First: It is weedless.  One of 
the best ways to fish a hopper is to cast it into the weeds on the 
bank and gently tug it into the water. I'm very good at getting my fly 
into the weeds.  Not so good at getting it out.

Second: The weight of the weedguard makes the fly land and float upright.
Because of the weight I had to add more foam to keep it floating. A 
second head accomplished that.  And I think it still looks natural 
enough for the fish. I might try using less foam for a slow sinking 
hopper.  I've heard sunken hoppers sometimes work better that the 
floating ones.



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Re: [VFB] My messy fly tying bench

2021-08-25 Thread Rene Zillmann

Hi Allan,

delivering Meals on Wheels sounds like presenting a fly to a fish. So, 
delivering MoW to Allan is... ok, I stop this nonsense.


Nice to hear from you. Best wishes to the pcomming surgery. Keep us 
informed.


Best

Rene



On 8/25/21 7:26 PM, Allan Fish wrote:
I’ve seen hooks similar to those when I worked for a time in a bait 
shop after I retired.  They were larger hooks designed as weedless 
worm hooks.  I never thought about using them for flies.


I’d love to see a picture of that 2-headed monster.  .  I may have 
to get us some Never Snags.


Don’t know if I told you, I had a minor setback about 3 months ago.  I 
have a fractured vertebra.  I’m wearing a bra….er…..brace that helps a 
little but not a lot.  I’ve been trying to get in for surgery for 6 
weeks and I finally got a call this morning.  It will be the 15th of 
next month.


I can only tie a couple of flies before the back says STOP.  It’s not 
so much bending as it is holding my arms up.  The fractured vertebra 
is between my shoulder blades.  I fractured it by simply rolling over 
in bed to get up.  Weak bones are no fun.  I’m blaming it on radiation 
therapy - one of the two tumors I had was on the back of my rib cage 
near this vertebra.  (The other was in my right lung.)


Other than that I’m doing well.  I’ve moved into a retirement 
community and am busy as ever.  I delivered “Meals on Wheels” this 
morning and have to leave shortly to go accompany the retirement 
community chorus practice (you probably didn’t know that I play piano).


Talk to you soon,
Al Fish
1014 Iris Ave.
Greenwood, in 46143
(317) 919-3413

On Aug 25, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Neville Gosling > wrote:


And I thought my tying table was messy! Never heard of Neversnag before.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Gary Webb > wrote:


How did this happen?  Don't ask my wife.

The Wiggle Butt Two Headed Hopper is tied on a Never Snag weedless 
hook. 
https://neversnag.com/product-category/neversnag-guardhooks-weedless-fishing-hooks/ 
 
  Two things I like about this hook.  First: It is weedless.  One of 
the best ways to fish a hopper is to cast it into the weeds on the 
bank and gently tug it into the water. I'm very good at getting my 
fly into the weeds.  Not so good at getting it out.
Second: The weight of the weedguard makes the fly land and float 
upright.
Because of the weight I had to add more foam to keep it floating. A 
second head accomplished that. And I think it still looks natural 
enough for the fish. I might try using less foam for a slow sinking 
hopper.  I've heard sunken hoppers sometimes work better that the 
floating ones.




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Re: [VFB] My messy fly tying bench

2021-08-25 Thread Neville Gosling
Good to hear from you Al. I thought that you had been unusually quiet. Yes, 
getting old is not fun and these are meant to be the golden years. 梁!

Neville (Nev) Gosling

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
> I’ve seen hooks similar to those when I worked for a time in a bait shop 
> after I retired.  They were larger hooks designed as weedless worm hooks.  I 
> never thought about using them for flies.
> 
> I’d love to see a picture of that 2-headed monster.  .  I may have to get 
> us some Never Snags.
> 
> Don’t know if I told you, I had a minor setback about 3 months ago.  I have a 
> fractured vertebra.  I’m wearing a bra….er…..brace that helps a little but 
> not a lot.  I’ve been trying to get in for surgery for 6 weeks and I finally 
> got a call this morning.  It will be the 15th of next month.
> 
> I can only tie a couple of flies before the back says STOP.  It’s not so much 
> bending as it is holding my arms up.  The fractured vertebra is between my 
> shoulder blades.  I fractured it by simply rolling over in bed to get up.  
> Weak bones are no fun.  I’m blaming it on radiation therapy - one of the two 
> tumors I had was on the back of my rib cage near this vertebra.  (The other 
> was in my right lung.)
> 
> Other than that I’m doing well.  I’ve moved into a retirement community and 
> am busy as ever.  I delivered “Meals on Wheels” this morning and have to 
> leave shortly to go accompany the retirement community chorus practice (you 
> probably didn’t know that I play piano).
> 
> Talk to you soon,
> Al Fish
> 1014 Iris Ave.
> Greenwood, in 46143
> (317) 919-3413
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Neville Gosling > > wrote:
>> 
>> And I thought my tying table was messy! Never heard of Neversnag before.
>> 
>> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Gary Webb >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> How did this happen?  Don't ask my wife.
>>> 
>>> The Wiggle Butt Two Headed Hopper is tied on a Never Snag weedless hook. 
>>> https://neversnag.com/product-category/neversnag-guardhooks-weedless-fishing-hooks/
>>>  
>>> 
>>>Two things I like about this hook.   First: It is weedless.  One of the 
>>> best ways to fish a hopper is to cast it into the weeds on the bank and 
>>> gently tug it into the water. I'm very good at getting my fly into the 
>>> weeds.  Not so good at getting it out.
>>> Second: The weight of the weedguard makes the fly land and float upright.
>>> Because of the weight I had to add more foam to keep it floating. A second 
>>> head accomplished that.  And I think it still looks natural enough for the 
>>> fish. I might try using less foam for a slow sinking hopper.  I've heard 
>>> sunken hoppers sometimes work better that the floating ones.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [VFB] My messy fly tying bench

2021-08-25 Thread Allan Fish
I’ve seen hooks similar to those when I worked for a time in a bait shop after 
I retired.  They were larger hooks designed as weedless worm hooks.  I never 
thought about using them for flies.

I’d love to see a picture of that 2-headed monster.  .  I may have to get us 
some Never Snags.

Don’t know if I told you, I had a minor setback about 3 months ago.  I have a 
fractured vertebra.  I’m wearing a bra….er…..brace that helps a little but not 
a lot.  I’ve been trying to get in for surgery for 6 weeks and I finally got a 
call this morning.  It will be the 15th of next month.

I can only tie a couple of flies before the back says STOP.  It’s not so much 
bending as it is holding my arms up.  The fractured vertebra is between my 
shoulder blades.  I fractured it by simply rolling over in bed to get up.  Weak 
bones are no fun.  I’m blaming it on radiation therapy - one of the two tumors 
I had was on the back of my rib cage near this vertebra.  (The other was in my 
right lung.)

Other than that I’m doing well.  I’ve moved into a retirement community and am 
busy as ever.  I delivered “Meals on Wheels” this morning and have to leave 
shortly to go accompany the retirement community chorus practice (you probably 
didn’t know that I play piano).

Talk to you soon,
Al Fish
1014 Iris Ave.
Greenwood, in 46143
(317) 919-3413

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:
> 
> And I thought my tying table was messy! Never heard of Neversnag before.
> 
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Gary Webb > > wrote:
>> 
>> How did this happen?  Don't ask my wife.
>> 
>> The Wiggle Butt Two Headed Hopper is tied on a Never Snag weedless hook. 
>> https://neversnag.com/product-category/neversnag-guardhooks-weedless-fishing-hooks/
>>  
>> 
>>Two things I like about this hook.   First: It is weedless.  One of the 
>> best ways to fish a hopper is to cast it into the weeds on the bank and 
>> gently tug it into the water. I'm very good at getting my fly into the 
>> weeds.  Not so good at getting it out.
>> Second: The weight of the weedguard makes the fly land and float upright.
>> Because of the weight I had to add more foam to keep it floating. A second 
>> head accomplished that.  And I think it still looks natural enough for the 
>> fish. I might try using less foam for a slow sinking hopper.  I've heard 
>> sunken hoppers sometimes work better that the floating ones.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [VFB] My messy fly tying bench

2021-08-25 Thread Neville Gosling
And I thought my tying table was messy! Never heard of Neversnag before.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Gary Webb  wrote:
> 
> How did this happen?  Don't ask my wife.
> 
> The Wiggle Butt Two Headed Hopper is tied on a Never Snag weedless hook. 
> https://neversnag.com/product-category/neversnag-guardhooks-weedless-fishing-hooks/
>  
> 
>Two things I like about this hook.   First: It is weedless.  One of the 
> best ways to fish a hopper is to cast it into the weeds on the bank and 
> gently tug it into the water. I'm very good at getting my fly into the weeds. 
>  Not so good at getting it out.
> Second: The weight of the weedguard makes the fly land and float upright.
> Because of the weight I had to add more foam to keep it floating. A second 
> head accomplished that.  And I think it still looks natural enough for the 
> fish. I might try using less foam for a slow sinking hopper.  I've heard 
> sunken hoppers sometimes work better that the floating ones.
> 
> 
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