Re: [VFB] Old fart swap picture

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Nice one Jack.

On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 13:52:24 UTC+1 Peggy Brenner wrote:

> Beauty Jack!
>
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 1:14 AM Jack Harford  wrote:
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>> Here is my entry :D
>>
>> [image: image.png]
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>> On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 8:50 PM Pete Gramp  wrote:
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>>> Here's my submission for the old farts swap. It is a Rangely lakes 
>>> streamer called the "Messalonski Lake Streamer". It has a special place in 
>>> my heart because every summer our family travels to Maine and stays in one 
>>> of the 2 "cottages" (think "shack with pumped in non-potable lake water and 
>>> electricity") right on lake Messalonski.
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Old Farts Fly Swap.

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Hi Pete,
Yup the pic came through looks lovely boss. Thanks
Regards
Keith

On Sunday, 14 May 2023 at 13:22:42 UTC+1 Pete Gramp wrote:

> I just tried sending my submission from my camera and ring light setup, 
> and I'm not sure if it went through or not. Could someone please let me 
> know? I'm not seeing anything sent from myself to the group, so I have no 
> way of knowing if it went through. 
>
> While here, I might as well say the recipe for the fly:
>
> Hook: 7xl streamer
> Body: orange floss
> Rib: 11 wraps silver oval lagartun tinsel
> Throat: 5 to 7 fronds bronze peacock herl overlaid first with yellow then 
> white bucktail
> Wing: baby blue hackle "pad" overlaid with slightly smaller grizzle[y] 
> hackle "pad", with excess baby blue showing above grizzle[y]. (The original 
> says grizzle, I added the y, and I added the quotes around pad, as it means 
> a pair of hackle tips)
> Cheek: Mallard flank or teal extended long, 1/2 to 3/4 the shank length
> (Optional, I omitted): Cheek overlay, jungle coque
> My fly's head is WAY more pronounced than I would have liked, but hey... 
> I'm an old fart and the eyes are going on me...
> Hope the picture went through OK.
> -Pete
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2023, 3:12 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail  
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>> Love it. I will upload my photo later today.
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 11 May 2023 at 19:46:14 UTC+1 Peggy Brenner wrote:
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>>> Silver Doctor hair wing salmon for all of us remaining old farts.
>>>
>>> Peggy B
>>>
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>>>> Hello folks,
>>>> Thought I would put this on a thread of its own. So the "rules" are:
>>>> Tie ONE fly of your choice.
>>>> Post a photo on thisa thread of the fly along with the recipe.
>>>> Room for as many of you that want to join in.
>>>> Age must be OVER 50 (days old!!)
>>>> Do all this with no worries about deadlines, post costs, tying hundreds 
>>>> of flies etc etc. 
>>>> It can even be a photo of your favourite fly that you tied 20 years 
>>>> ago!!
>>>> So far there is 
>>>> Peggy Brenner
>>>> Gary Webb
>>>> Rene Zillman
>>>> Me
>>>> Look foreward to hearing from you and seeing your flies.
>>>>
>>>> Best from Blighty
>>>> Keith
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Re: [VFB] Old Farts Fly Swap.

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Love it. I will upload my photo later today.
Regards
Keith


On Thursday, 11 May 2023 at 19:46:14 UTC+1 Peggy Brenner wrote:

> Silver Doctor hair wing salmon for all of us remaining old farts.
>
> Peggy B
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> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 5:24 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail  
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>> Hello folks,
>> Thought I would put this on a thread of its own. So the "rules" are:
>> Tie ONE fly of your choice.
>> Post a photo on thisa thread of the fly along with the recipe.
>> Room for as many of you that want to join in.
>> Age must be OVER 50 (days old!!)
>> Do all this with no worries about deadlines, post costs, tying hundreds 
>> of flies etc etc. 
>> It can even be a photo of your favourite fly that you tied 20 years ago!!
>> So far there is 
>> Peggy Brenner
>> Gary Webb
>> Rene Zillman
>> Me
>> Look foreward to hearing from you and seeing your flies.
>>
>> Best from Blighty
>> Keith
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Re: [VFB] Old Farts Fly Swap.

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Haha Byard. Good to see you here still. And yup that recipe of yours works 
a dream. Some great tyers were on those old forum days. 
Hope you are well Byard and still wrapping stuff and catchin fish.


On Sunday, 7 May 2023 at 16:59:34 UTC+1 Byard Miller wrote:

> Here you go Rene…
>
> Take a hook and wrap some stuff on it. Catch a fish. 
>
> Keep tyin’ … byard
>
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> Sent from Byard's iPhone
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> On May 7, 2023, at 9:28 AM, Rene Zillmann  wrote:
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>  
>
> Hi Byard,
>
> look good. Now for the recipes
>
> Best
>
> Rene
> On 06/05/2023 04:21, Byard Miller wrote:
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> Here’s my favorite … or favorites! 
>
> 
>
> Keep Tyin’ … byard
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> On May 5, 2023, at 6:11 PM, 'KP' via VFB Mail  
> wrote:
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> Good shout Swap Meister :-)  So send them here and then put all in one 
> post on the FB group works for me boss. Just need a feww to sign up and 
> send a photo in 
> Thanks Rene
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
> On Friday, 5 May 2023 at 15:24:30 UTC+1 Rene Zillmann wrote:
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>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> I'm wondering if we should not collect the fly images and create one post 
>> with all flies on our Facebook-group. Would be a new sort of 
>> swap/post-master. This would require a deadline for sure. Each tyer would 
>> later add the recipe / materials list in an comment for the fly.
>>
>> What are you and the others thinking?
>>
>> Best
>>
>> René
>> On 26/04/2023 11:24, 'KP' via VFB Mail wrote:
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>> Hello folks, 
>> Thought I would put this on a thread of its own. So the "rules" are:
>> Tie ONE fly of your choice.
>> Post a photo on thisa thread of the fly along with the recipe.
>> Room for as many of you that want to join in.
>> Age must be OVER 50 (days old!!)
>> Do all this with no worries about deadlines, post costs, tying hundreds 
>> of flies etc etc. 
>> It can even be a photo of your favourite fly that you tied 20 years ago!!
>> So far there is 
>> Peggy Brenner
>> Gary Webb
>> Rene Zillman
>> Me
>> Look foreward to hearing from you and seeing your flies.
>>
>> Best from Blighty
>> Keith
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Re: [VFB] Old Farts Fly Swap.

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Good shout Swap Meister :-)  So send them here and then put all in one post 
on the FB group works for me boss. Just need a feww to sign up and send a 
photo in
Thanks Rene

Regards
Keith

On Friday, 5 May 2023 at 15:24:30 UTC+1 Rene Zillmann wrote:

> Hi Keith,
>
> I'm wondering if we should not collect the fly images and create one post 
> with all flies on our Facebook-group. Would be a new sort of 
> swap/post-master. This would require a deadline for sure. Each tyer would 
> later add the recipe / materials list in an comment for the fly.
>
> What are you and the others thinking?
>
> Best
>
> René
> On 26/04/2023 11:24, 'KP' via VFB Mail wrote:
>
> Hello folks, 
> Thought I would put this on a thread of its own. So the "rules" are:
> Tie ONE fly of your choice.
> Post a photo on thisa thread of the fly along with the recipe.
> Room for as many of you that want to join in.
> Age must be OVER 50 (days old!!)
> Do all this with no worries about deadlines, post costs, tying hundreds of 
> flies etc etc. 
> It can even be a photo of your favourite fly that you tied 20 years ago!!
> So far there is 
> Peggy Brenner
> Gary Webb
> Rene Zillman
> Me
> Look foreward to hearing from you and seeing your flies.
>
> Best from Blighty
> Keith
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Re: [VFB] Re: I'M still kickin'

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Hi Pete,
Congratulations on the Smurf degree sport.
The Old Farts swap is as you describe it. Bit of this bit of that not sure 
about this not sure about that got lots of time to sort it. :-) 
Its a single photo posted to the thread  Old Fart Swap along with the 
recipe. You dont even have to tie a new fly it can be one you use and tied 
years ago if you like. Suggested it like this so there are none of the 
usual costs and deadlines for flys to be posted out etc. and hopefully get 
the list buzzing again. Remember those days?? Probably not if you are an 
Old Fart!
Just pick your fly take a photo add the recipe put that on the thread and 
bingo jobs done.
Hope that all makes sense Schtroumpf à Lunettes !
Regards
Keith

On Thursday, 27 April 2023 at 00:55:59 UTC+1 Pete Gramp wrote:

> Hi all -
> I'm still alive and kickin' as well, finishing up my last week of graduate 
> studies before I earn my MSci degree in Drug Discovery & Development from 
> Drexel University, PA, USA. I get to look like a Papa Smurf sprinkled with 
> grass clippings when I get hooded during the ceremony... the robe is a 
> light shade of royal blue, the cap is white, and being in the medical 
> college, the hood is green. Quite a sight to behold... But I'll finally 
> have that parchment on the wall. After I graduate, I'll be taking a little 
> time off to fly fish (of course!) and then will be hitting the job search 
> like there's no tomorrow. 
> The old farts swap intrigues me, but before I commit to participating, can 
> someone give me more details? What type of fly, when is it due, do we 
> simply post it to this list or do we email the picture(s) and recipe to a 
> swapmeister/ host who posts everything en masse, those sorts of details?
> Great to hear from you all and see the list active again,
> -Pete
> pete....@gmail.com
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> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 5:19 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
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>> Hi Peggy,
>> Sorry to hear about your BIL. Condolences to you and your family. Amazing 
>> when you think you're  doing the right thing and it goes wrong.
>> Good to have you on board for the "swap" though. I see you are still 
>> doing youre demos and courses. Great work.
>> Gary I look forward to seeing this secret panfish fly. I would love to 
>> have a go at the crappy and sunfish. They seem pretty consistent fly rod 
>> sport.
>> I will put my fly up on here as soon as its done.
>> So far there is :
>> Peggy,
>> Gary,
>> Rene?
>> Me.
>> Plenty of room for all you other old farts out there. ONE fly and post a 
>> pic on here with the recipe. No postage to worry about, no dozens of flies 
>> to tie.
>> I'll start another thread.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 12:29:23 UTC+1 Peggy Brenner wrote:
>>
>>> I'll take part in the Old farts swap, after my BIL funeral this Friday, 
>>> he is the first of our generation to go. For 60 of his 73 years he took 
>>> insulin to live, went into a hospital for a week for dehydration and came 
>>> out in a bag.
>>>
>>> Peggy B
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 6:04 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
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>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>> Dont know which to try first the fly or the drink! Haha.
>>>> BUT I will deffinitly tie a few flies up. I will puty a pic up at some 
>>>> point.
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> Rene
>>>> When is carnival season? Bierfest? 
>>>>
>>>> And anyone up for an old farts swap MkII? Say ten participants and tie 
>>>> just ONE fly then put the picture of the fly and recipe on here No 
>>>> postage no sorting and no pressure and no loads of flies to tie. You could 
>>>> do it between naps!!?  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> KP
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 23 April 2023 at 02:08:10 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keith,  Here is the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Fly:
>>>>> https://wiflyfisher.com/patterns/Pink-Squirrel-fly-pattern.asp
>>>>> John Bethke is from Westby, Wisconsin.  
>>>>> And the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Drink:  
>>>>> https://www.bryantscocktaillounge.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Pink Squirrel
>>>>>
>>>>> 1& 1/2 oz Creme de Almond
>>>>> 1/2 oz Creme de Cacao (White)
>>>>> Large scoop Strawberry Ice Cream
>>>>>
>>>>> Mix in a blender until smooth.
>>>>> Pour into a On-The-Rocks glass
>>>>> Flo

[VFB] Old Farts Fly Swap.

['KP' via VFB Mail]

Hello folks,
Thought I would put this on a thread of its own. So the "rules" are:
Tie ONE fly of your choice.
Post a photo on thisa thread of the fly along with the recipe.
Room for as many of you that want to join in.
Age must be OVER 50 (days old!!)
Do all this with no worries about deadlines, post costs, tying hundreds of 
flies etc etc. 
It can even be a photo of your favourite fly that you tied 20 years ago!!
So far there is 
Peggy Brenner
Gary Webb
Rene Zillman
Me
Look foreward to hearing from you and seeing your flies.

Best from Blighty
Keith

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Re: [VFB] Re: I'M still kickin'

['KP' via VFB Mail]

Hi Peggy,
Sorry to hear about your BIL. Condolences to you and your family. Amazing 
when you think you're  doing the right thing and it goes wrong.
Good to have you on board for the "swap" though. I see you are still doing 
youre demos and courses. Great work.
Gary I look forward to seeing this secret panfish fly. I would love to have 
a go at the crappy and sunfish. They seem pretty consistent fly rod sport.
I will put my fly up on here as soon as its done.
So far there is :
Peggy,
Gary,
Rene?
Me.
Plenty of room for all you other old farts out there. ONE fly and post a 
pic on here with the recipe. No postage to worry about, no dozens of flies 
to tie.
I'll start another thread.

On Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 12:29:23 UTC+1 Peggy Brenner wrote:

> I'll take part in the Old farts swap, after my BIL funeral this Friday, he 
> is the first of our generation to go. For 60 of his 73 years he took 
> insulin to live, went into a hospital for a week for dehydration and came 
> out in a bag.
>
> Peggy B
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 6:04 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Gary,
>> Dont know which to try first the fly or the drink! Haha.
>> BUT I will deffinitly tie a few flies up. I will puty a pic up at some 
>> point.
>> and
>>
>> Rene
>> When is carnival season? Bierfest? 
>>
>> And anyone up for an old farts swap MkII? Say ten participants and tie 
>> just ONE fly then put the picture of the fly and recipe on here No 
>> postage no sorting and no pressure and no loads of flies to tie. You could 
>> do it between naps!!?  :-)
>>
>> Cheers
>> KP
>>
>> On Sunday, 23 April 2023 at 02:08:10 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>
>>> Keith,  Here is the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Fly:
>>> https://wiflyfisher.com/patterns/Pink-Squirrel-fly-pattern.asp
>>> John Bethke is from Westby, Wisconsin.  
>>> And the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Drink:  
>>> https://www.bryantscocktaillounge.com/
>>>
>>> Pink Squirrel
>>>
>>> 1& 1/2 oz Creme de Almond
>>> 1/2 oz Creme de Cacao (White)
>>> Large scoop Strawberry Ice Cream
>>>
>>> Mix in a blender until smooth.
>>> Pour into a On-The-Rocks glass
>>> Float a Strawberry on top.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 11:21 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ha ! Thats awesome. I will have a look at my swap collections. DonO was 
>>>> a monster of a human in the best way. Fantasy Flies I think summed 
>>>> him up totally. There were , and still are, some awesome guys in this 
>>>> group. Shame its dropped off the page a little bit. I see Nick 
>>>> occassionally post on Facebook and his sense of humour is still way out 
>>>> there in left field :-) 
>>>> I will have a look for the recipe for the Pink Squirrel. I know some 
>>>> water it will work on for sure. And with all this 10 foot 2weight fishing 
>>>> its prime ammo for that method I'd say.
>>>> As for Air Head? Well we all get to be a bit air headish when we are 
>>>> young then again when we are old. So nothing wrong with being an Air Head 
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 06:13:01 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keith, I missed the Beer swap.  But I was in the Drinks swap where I 
>>>>> tied a Pink Squirrel. More than 30 years ago I met John Bethke at a local 
>>>>> sporting goods store demonstrating how to tie his fly Coincidentally the 
>>>>> Pink Squirrel swap hosted by Don O is the last swap I've been a part of. 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> saw your name on the list of participants. I I fish with a Pink Squirrel 
>>>>> quite a lot if there are no rises.
>>>>> And when I do, I sometimes think of  Don Ordes.  A few days ago I 
>>>>> could not find my Rope Dubbing DVD. I was about to tear the house apart. 
>>>>> It 
>>>>> took me three days to find. Nick Runnarsson hosted an Old Farts swap a 
>>>>> few 
>>>>> years back.  I tied a Gary La Fontaine fly: The Air Head.  That is the 
>>>>> fly's true name and no one should infer anything from that about this 
>>>>> tier.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:33 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Gary,
>>>>>> Good to hear from y

Re: [VFB] Re: I'M still kickin'

['KP' via VFB Mail]

Thanks Gary,
Dont know which to try first the fly or the drink! Haha.
BUT I will deffinitly tie a few flies up. I will puty a pic up at some 
point.
and

Rene
When is carnival season? Bierfest? 

And anyone up for an old farts swap MkII? Say ten participants and tie just 
ONE fly then put the picture of the fly and recipe on here No postage 
no sorting and no pressure and no loads of flies to tie. You could do it 
between naps!!?  :-)

Cheers
KP

On Sunday, 23 April 2023 at 02:08:10 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:

> Keith,  Here is the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Fly:
> https://wiflyfisher.com/patterns/Pink-Squirrel-fly-pattern.asp
> John Bethke is from Westby, Wisconsin.  
> And the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Drink:  
> https://www.bryantscocktaillounge.com/
>
> Pink Squirrel
>
> 1& 1/2 oz Creme de Almond
> 1/2 oz Creme de Cacao (White)
> Large scoop Strawberry Ice Cream
>
> Mix in a blender until smooth.
> Pour into a On-The-Rocks glass
> Float a Strawberry on top.
>
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 11:21 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Ha ! Thats awesome. I will have a look at my swap collections. DonO was a 
>> monster of a human in the best way. Fantasy Flies I think summed 
>> him up totally. There were , and still are, some awesome guys in this 
>> group. Shame its dropped off the page a little bit. I see Nick 
>> occassionally post on Facebook and his sense of humour is still way out 
>> there in left field :-) 
>> I will have a look for the recipe for the Pink Squirrel. I know some 
>> water it will work on for sure. And with all this 10 foot 2weight fishing 
>> its prime ammo for that method I'd say.
>> As for Air Head? Well we all get to be a bit air headish when we are 
>> young then again when we are old. So nothing wrong with being an Air Head 
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 06:13:01 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>
>>> Keith, I missed the Beer swap.  But I was in the Drinks swap where I 
>>> tied a Pink Squirrel. More than 30 years ago I met John Bethke at a local 
>>> sporting goods store demonstrating how to tie his fly Coincidentally the 
>>> Pink Squirrel swap hosted by Don O is the last swap I've been a part of. I 
>>> saw your name on the list of participants. I I fish with a Pink Squirrel 
>>> quite a lot if there are no rises.
>>> And when I do, I sometimes think of  Don Ordes.  A few days ago I could 
>>> not find my Rope Dubbing DVD. I was about to tear the house apart. It took 
>>> me three days to find. Nick Runnarsson hosted an Old Farts swap a few years 
>>> back.  I tied a Gary La Fontaine fly: The Air Head.  That is the fly's true 
>>> name and no one should infer anything from that about this tier.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:33 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Gary,
>>>> Good to hear from you sport. Yep I remember the photos Byard put out of 
>>>> his dining room table covered in boxes of flys :-)  I did 1 and 2 and 
>>>> still 
>>>> have the hooks Byard got as a sample from one of the suppliers he used. 
>>>> That was a great forum. I till have all the swap flies from all the swaps 
>>>> we did. Tied copies but never used any of the flies. Did you do the Beer 
>>>> Swap?  Tie flies based on a local brew and send it in along with Beer 
>>>> coasters. I ran that swap and it was such a great variety. DonO's Cherry 
>>>> Bomb was literally that!!!  
>>>> The only regret I have is not ever being able to get out to the Sowbug 
>>>> show Tony Spezio ran. Could'nt afford it and now dont like the thought of 
>>>> all the travel. Hey ho. Maybe I'll hop across the English Channel to 
>>>> Cologne and see Rene!!
>>>> We should run an Old Farts Swap. No one under 50 allowed in! Hahaha
>>>> Take care
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 at 19:33:54 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Keith. Great to see your name on my screen again.  I joined VFB 
>>>>> right at the end of the 2nd 100 Caddis swap.  I guess you could call me 
>>>>> one 
>>>>> of the Old Timers.  More likely an Old Fart.   I remember thinking that I 
>>>>> was glad I was not the SwapMeister sorting 10,000 flys. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:09 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HA!! Good to

Re: [VFB] Re: I'M still kickin'

['KP' via VFB Mail]

Ha ! Thats awesome. I will have a look at my swap collections. DonO was a 
monster of a human in the best way. Fantasy Flies I think summed 
him up totally. There were , and still are, some awesome guys in this 
group. Shame its dropped off the page a little bit. I see Nick 
occassionally post on Facebook and his sense of humour is still way out 
there in left field :-) 
I will have a look for the recipe for the Pink Squirrel. I know some water 
it will work on for sure. And with all this 10 foot 2weight fishing its 
prime ammo for that method I'd say.
As for Air Head? Well we all get to be a bit air headish when we are young 
then again when we are old. So nothing wrong with being an Air Head :-)


On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 06:13:01 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:

> Keith, I missed the Beer swap.  But I was in the Drinks swap where I tied 
> a Pink Squirrel. More than 30 years ago I met John Bethke at a local 
> sporting goods store demonstrating how to tie his fly Coincidentally the 
> Pink Squirrel swap hosted by Don O is the last swap I've been a part of. I 
> saw your name on the list of participants. I I fish with a Pink Squirrel 
> quite a lot if there are no rises.
> And when I do, I sometimes think of  Don Ordes.  A few days ago I could 
> not find my Rope Dubbing DVD. I was about to tear the house apart. It took 
> me three days to find. Nick Runnarsson hosted an Old Farts swap a few years 
> back.  I tied a Gary La Fontaine fly: The Air Head.  That is the fly's true 
> name and no one should infer anything from that about this tier.
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:33 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary,
>> Good to hear from you sport. Yep I remember the photos Byard put out of 
>> his dining room table covered in boxes of flys :-)  I did 1 and 2 and still 
>> have the hooks Byard got as a sample from one of the suppliers he used. 
>> That was a great forum. I till have all the swap flies from all the swaps 
>> we did. Tied copies but never used any of the flies. Did you do the Beer 
>> Swap?  Tie flies based on a local brew and send it in along with Beer 
>> coasters. I ran that swap and it was such a great variety. DonO's Cherry 
>> Bomb was literally that!!!  
>> The only regret I have is not ever being able to get out to the Sowbug 
>> show Tony Spezio ran. Could'nt afford it and now dont like the thought of 
>> all the travel. Hey ho. Maybe I'll hop across the English Channel to 
>> Cologne and see Rene!!
>> We should run an Old Farts Swap. No one under 50 allowed in! Hahaha
>> Take care
>> Keith
>>
>> On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 at 19:33:54 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Keith. Great to see your name on my screen again.  I joined VFB 
>>> right at the end of the 2nd 100 Caddis swap.  I guess you could call me one 
>>> of the Old Timers.  More likely an Old Fart.   I remember thinking that I 
>>> was glad I was not the SwapMeister sorting 10,000 flys. 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:09 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> HA!! Good to see you are still kicking around you old Blowhard :-) 
>>>> Sorry to hear about your tough medical times bud and your brothers 
>>>> passing. However I'm a boy from Wolverhampton in the UK and its city motto 
>>>> is "Out of darkness cometh light" and your three recent additions to the 
>>>> "pawpaw" duty list are exactly that. The light. Welcome to them all.
>>>> Ive been on the list for years even before the )2 Caddis Swap. Who 
>>>> remembers that little swap. A Byard special for sure. I still have the 
>>>> flies from both of those mega swaps plus lots of the others we all did.
>>>> Some great guys now gone but what times they were. I worked for Orvis 
>>>> (yes I know) in the UK for the last 13 years of my working life. I 
>>>> retirred 
>>>> 2021 and they closed down all but one of the stores in 22. See they just 
>>>> didnt realise how much they need me !!! :-)  Now I just do the gardening, 
>>>> some teaching tying and fly casting and looking after grandkids 
>>>> occassionally.
>>>> Good to hear from you all.
>>>> Oh and HPPY BIRTHDAY Great Grandad!! 
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 23:43:00 UTC+1 Charles Alexander wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Folks: I'm still here too. Just haven't felt up to it as for the last 
>>>>> two yrs after covid TRIED to kill me. I spent over 70 days in a 
>>>>> coma,kidneys started shutting down e

Re: [VFB] Re: I'M still kickin'

['KP' via VFB Mail]

Hi Gary,
Good to hear from you sport. Yep I remember the photos Byard put out of his 
dining room table covered in boxes of flys :-)  I did 1 and 2 and still 
have the hooks Byard got as a sample from one of the suppliers he used. 
That was a great forum. I till have all the swap flies from all the swaps 
we did. Tied copies but never used any of the flies. Did you do the Beer 
Swap?  Tie flies based on a local brew and send it in along with Beer 
coasters. I ran that swap and it was such a great variety. DonO's Cherry 
Bomb was literally that!!!  
The only regret I have is not ever being able to get out to the Sowbug show 
Tony Spezio ran. Could'nt afford it and now dont like the thought of all 
the travel. Hey ho. Maybe I'll hop across the English Channel to Cologne 
and see Rene!!
We should run an Old Farts Swap. No one under 50 allowed in! Hahaha
Take care
Keith

On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 at 19:33:54 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:

> Hello Keith. Great to see your name on my screen again.  I joined VFB 
> right at the end of the 2nd 100 Caddis swap.  I guess you could call me one 
> of the Old Timers.  More likely an Old Fart.   I remember thinking that I 
> was glad I was not the SwapMeister sorting 10,000 flys. 
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:09 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> HA!! Good to see you are still kicking around you old Blowhard :-) 
>> Sorry to hear about your tough medical times bud and your brothers 
>> passing. However I'm a boy from Wolverhampton in the UK and its city motto 
>> is "Out of darkness cometh light" and your three recent additions to the 
>> "pawpaw" duty list are exactly that. The light. Welcome to them all.
>> Ive been on the list for years even before the )2 Caddis Swap. Who 
>> remembers that little swap. A Byard special for sure. I still have the 
>> flies from both of those mega swaps plus lots of the others we all did.
>> Some great guys now gone but what times they were. I worked for Orvis 
>> (yes I know) in the UK for the last 13 years of my working life. I retirred 
>> 2021 and they closed down all but one of the stores in 22. See they just 
>> didnt realise how much they need me !!! :-)  Now I just do the gardening, 
>> some teaching tying and fly casting and looking after grandkids 
>> occassionally.
>> Good to hear from you all.
>> Oh and HPPY BIRTHDAY Great Grandad!! 
>> Keith
>>
>> On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 23:43:00 UTC+1 Charles Alexander wrote:
>>
>>> Folks: I'm still here too. Just haven't felt up to it as for the last 
>>> two yrs after covid TRIED to kill me. I spent over 70 days in a 
>>> coma,kidneys started shutting down etc etc. As soon as they'd fix one thing 
>>> something else would pop up,with the latest thing being a positive 
>>> cologuard test and I'm supposed to have the ole colonoscopy to get that 
>>> checked out. 
>>>
>>> my docs have all told me that I had the worse case of covid they have 
>>> seen and lived to tell about it. I still cannot walk without the aid of a 
>>> walker but God has seen me this far so I don't think He's going to fail me 
>>> now. I did lose one of my younger brothers this last July. He went to 
>>> Wal-Mart, got inside the door and he just feel over dead. There happened to 
>>> be a gold sematin right there and he gave my brother CPr till the got there 
>>> and because of that we were able. Donate my brothers organs which either 
>>> saved the lived or improved the lives
>>>
>>> On a better topic, two months ago we closed on a new home and are still 
>>> haven't finished moving which is a pain but we love the new place and it's 
>>> only 5-10 minuites from two city parks, which are both stocked with bass 
>>> and bluegills. And I did get to go fishing three times last Spring and we 
>>> did fish each trip. Then, three and six months ago respectively, we 
>>> welcomed two new grand daughters which brings the total to 17 and 18 total 
>>> and paw pawpaws job is to hold and spoil them. We even have one great grand 
>>> daughter. Now, I turn 65 tomorrow, but that don't seem old enough to be a 
>>> GREAT grandfather lol. Well, sorry for writing a BOOK here but trying to 
>>> condense two Yrs into one email ain't easy for a blow hard like me lol, 
>>> Chuck
>>>
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[VFB] Re: I'M still kickin'

['KP' via VFB Mail]

HA!! Good to see you are still kicking around you old Blowhard :-) 
Sorry to hear about your tough medical times bud and your brothers passing. 
However I'm a boy from Wolverhampton in the UK and its city motto is "Out 
of darkness cometh light" and your three recent additions to the "pawpaw" 
duty list are exactly that. The light. Welcome to them all.
Ive been on the list for years even before the )2 Caddis Swap. Who 
remembers that little swap. A Byard special for sure. I still have the 
flies from both of those mega swaps plus lots of the others we all did.
Some great guys now gone but what times they were. I worked for Orvis (yes 
I know) in the UK for the last 13 years of my working life. I retirred 2021 
and they closed down all but one of the stores in 22. See they just didnt 
realise how much they need me !!! :-)  Now I just do the gardening, some 
teaching tying and fly casting and looking after grandkids occassionally.
Good to hear from you all.
Oh and HPPY BIRTHDAY Great Grandad!! 
Keith

On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 23:43:00 UTC+1 Charles Alexander wrote:

> Folks: I'm still here too. Just haven't felt up to it as for the last two 
> yrs after covid TRIED to kill me. I spent over 70 days in a coma,kidneys 
> started shutting down etc etc. As soon as they'd fix one thing something 
> else would pop up,with the latest thing being a positive cologuard test and 
> I'm supposed to have the ole colonoscopy to get that checked out. 
>
> my docs have all told me that I had the worse case of covid they have seen 
> and lived to tell about it. I still cannot walk without the aid of a walker 
> but God has seen me this far so I don't think He's going to fail me now. I 
> did lose one of my younger brothers this last July. He went to Wal-Mart, 
> got inside the door and he just feel over dead. There happened to be a gold 
> sematin right there and he gave my brother CPr till the got there and 
> because of that we were able. Donate my brothers organs which either saved 
> the lived or improved the lives
>
> On a better topic, two months ago we closed on a new home and are still 
> haven't finished moving which is a pain but we love the new place and it's 
> only 5-10 minuites from two city parks, which are both stocked with bass 
> and bluegills. And I did get to go fishing three times last Spring and we 
> did fish each trip. Then, three and six months ago respectively, we 
> welcomed two new grand daughters which brings the total to 17 and 18 total 
> and paw pawpaws job is to hold and spoil them. We even have one great grand 
> daughter. Now, I turn 65 tomorrow, but that don't seem old enough to be a 
> GREAT grandfather lol. Well, sorry for writing a BOOK here but trying to 
> condense two Yrs into one email ain't easy for a blow hard like me lol, 
> Chuck
>

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Re: [VFB] Test

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So if we want to keep our merry band together why not set up a Facebook or 
WhatsApp page/group? Wouldnt have to wait 24 hours to get a reply as it 
will be almost instant? Set it as a private group leave the contact options 
on here so anyone who wants to stay in touch can pop over to the new 
location. And that way we would not have a “me too” email that is forty 
foot long cos no one removed the original emails from the reply. If you 
choose whatsapp you can video message at no cost etc.


Happy New Year all

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[VFB] Re: Source for Seal's fur dubbing in the USA?

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Pete have you tried Feathers MC? John McClain does "SEAL" dubbing and is 
based in USA Try it nothing to lose I guess. 
https://feathersmc.com/product/seal-dubbing/
If you want seal for real I can get it in the UK and send it. And I can I 
believe get Cites tickets too. Via  
http://www.veniard.com/product5150/section85/
Cheers
Keith

On Sunday, 28 June 2020 20:36:39 UTC+1, Pete Gramp wrote:
>
> Hi, VFB!
> Is there a *legit* source for seal's fur dubbing in the USA?  Like, not 
> having to deal with CITES permits or risking run-ins with law enforcement?  
> For that matter, is it even legal to possess and use seal's fur dubbing in 
> the USA without a CITES permit or the likes?  If not... boy, I am glad the 
> little I have from Scotland has a CITES permit associated with it!!
>
> Just looking for new colors, as what I have are 2 colors, both dark (jet 
> black, dark olive nearly dark-brown), and nearly impossible to dye the 
> orange and cobalt blue I'm desiring... There's a featured pattern in the UK 
> Flyfishing & Flytying Journal that I'd like to try my hand at, that's why 
> I'm seeking these colors.  Technically I could use sheepswool dubbing as an 
> alternative, but I was never fond of that stuff, and I don't have that 
> besides.  And the sheen just isn't the same for sheepswool dubbing.  I 
> suppose I could also use pigswool but that is too kinky/curly in my 
> opinion, and besides, I only have about 0.1g left (flattened out, the size 
> of a 50p piece, or a little bigger than a US quarter) in off-colorations 
> for that option.
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide for seal's fur sourcing - legit 
> ones, in the USA,
> -Pete
>
>

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[VFB] Re: Tony Spezio

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Really sorry to hear this news and will keep Tony and Dot in my thoughts. 
Very sad times
Keith

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[VFB] Suggestion for Paper Books with Czech / Euro / Jig nymph patterns in them

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Hi Pete. I have the book but the DVD was missing. Its fantastic list of 
patterns.
https://www.tungsten-beads-plus.com/products/hends-book-dvd-fly-fishing-and-fly-tying-2

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[VFB] Re: Pink Squirrel swap update?

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>
> Hi Don

Hope you are feeling better. Just wondering if my flies ever turned up 
sport. They went out right before the due date but you showed them as no 
show 3 weeks later.
Hey Ho.
Foster says get well sir
Cheers
KP

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Re: [VFB] Re: Cheap but good fly line

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Hi Rene
Yupp good to see everyone around despite the various challenges we all seem 
to face to one degree or another.
I have worked for Orvi for 10 years and enjoy most of the time. Always the 
odd day where I could just say enough is enough.
Then I go fishin and all is well catch or not :-)
Hope you are well sir
Keith


On Thursday, 2 May 2019 20:03:51 UTC+1, Rene Zillmann wrote:
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> Hi Keith,
>
> nice to see you around, how are you? I was not aware that you are working 
> for Orvis.
>
> KR
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> Rene
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[VFB] Re: Cheap but good fly line

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Hi Chuck
>
> Your comment that the getting to fish is the important thing is perfect. 
Glad you had a good day catchin not fishin :-) 
The Clearwater is a good line. Its a 1/2 line weight heavier than a 
standard line and should work the rod nicely.
As for your fly tying guide your right its a great book. And we cant get 
them in the UK !!! Crazy.
Thanks Alan. I think it just makes sense !!
Cheers all
KP

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[VFB] Re: Cheap but good fly line

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Chuck,
I work for Orvis in the UK. Which line was it you got at $29.95 ? The Orvis 
line is made in the USA by Scientific Anglers. Orvis own SA. If you are not 
happy with it you can send it back to Orvis and they will refund it. What 
make is the Ebay jobby?
What many folk forget is that just because a line costs a load of money if 
its not a good match with the rod then it wont work to its optimum. Plus 
the way you cast as in your style can make a difference. I always try to 
get people look at this when buying lines. Ive had the same as you say. 
Cheap line and good rod matched work wonderfully. And on occassion the 
cheap rod expensive line works well. Its you that casts the line by bending 
the rod properly. The matched combo of line and rod make a huge difference 
to an un matched combo.
Its also good to get a good deal when buying your gear. Looks like you did 
that with your ebay purchase.
Cheers
KP

On Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:00:48 UTC+1, Chuck Alexander wrote:
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> Folks: About 2-3 weeks ago, I ordered a $59.95 spool of Orvis fly line as 
> it was on sale for $29.95. It casts great. BUT, that same day, I ordered 
> a spool of no brand of eBay because it was only $5.99 plus 99 cents 
> shipping just to see what the difference is between the higher dollar 
> brand name and the no brand stuff. I stung it up this morning and there 
> IS a difference. And that difference is this. That no name spool outcasts 
> the Orvis line by a mile. I couldn’t believe how that cheap stuff casts 
> both in distance and in accuracy. I highly recommend it for sure. I 
> ordered a 6wt line and put it on a 5/6 wt rod btw. Chuck
>
>
> *https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fly-Line-WF1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9WT-Floating-Weight-Forward-Fly-Fishing-Line/192574054517?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT=492695851728&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649*
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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- 2 tiers needed

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Hi guys. My flies were shipped 1st March. So that's a boomer by the looks of it.
Darn. I even put $10 for return post in the envelope. 
I don't have time for doing a second set so guys sorry but that's that.  
Msnrsnbsnfuszbussllmucklfickle
Cheers
Keith 

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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

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Don,
Foster is doing real good. Thanks for the sign up sire. Yupp they were VERY 
GOOD old days I think. I reckon its got to have been close on20 years since 
I joined my first swap.
Does that mean we are old? Or Olde?? :-) 


On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 8:42:38 PM UTC, DonO wrote:
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> Mr. Keith, How’s Foster?  
> I have you signed up. Like the good ol’ days. 
> We still have a few spots open.
> DonO
>  
> *From:* 'KP' via VFB Mail  
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 20, 2019 12:35 PM
> *To:* VFB Mail  
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
>  
>
>
> Hi Don and co,
>>
>> I have replied on two different threads but dont see the replies. Hey ho. 
> If there is still room on the swap Im in but dont sweat it if theres not.
> Glad to see you are well down the road to recovery Don and long may it 
> continue to improve. 
> Take care guys
> Keith P 
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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

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Hi Don and co,
>
> I have replied on two different threads but dont see the replies. Hey ho. 
If there is still room on the swap Im in but dont sweat it if theres not.
Glad to see you are well down the road to recovery Don and long may it 
continue to improve. 
Take care guys
Keith P 

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