Re: [VFB] Jig Hooks Question

2018-02-21 Thread Michael Bliss
No expert here but since taking up Euro Nymphing I have tied on jig hooks.
They are almost all 60 degree.  According to Lance Egan the reason he uses
the jig hooks is because it causes the hook to ride point up.  I have found
them good for hookups

Mike

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Wes Wada  wrote:

> Hi VFB!
>
> Hope all goes well.
>
> I saw an idea about the use of a jig hook for suspended fly patterns that
> I am investigating.  Up to now, I have not favored suspended patterns
> because they seem to have very poor hooking qualities.  A close friend, an
> excellent flyfisher, came to the same conclusion.
>
> However, I aim to maintain my fool's status and want to see If I can
> correct the problem.
>
> Can anyone tell me why the upright hookeye part of jig hooks come in
> varying angles?  The most common is the 90-degree, but hook manufacturers
> make 30 and 60-degree models.  Why?  What is the effect of changing that
> angle?
>
> --weather report--
>
> We are finally getting some snow accumulation in Bend, Oregon.  Up til a
> week ago, much of the US west has been very dry, like 50% of normal
> historical snowpack.  But we have made some gains so prospects of a major
> drought, fires, low water, stressed fish etc. get pushed further out.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Wes Wada
> Bend, Oregon
>
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Re: [VFB] Jig Hooks Question

2018-02-21 Thread JERALD CARUSO
Wes:

  Basically, jigs aren't really designed for fly fishing.  I've never seen a 30 
degree jig hook.  Looking at my non-fly fishing catalogs, I see 90, 60 and 45 
degree jig hooks.  90 degree jigs are designed for vertical jigging.  I use 
them when I'm fishing from a boat for walleye.  You drop them to the bottom and 
jig them up and down.  You can suspend them from a bobber and fish them that 
way or even cast and retrieve them or bounce them along the bottom.  With fly 
fishing, I think there's a misconception that if you fish a nymph tied on jig 
hook with a bead, it's less likely to snag on the bottom, wrong.  If you fish 
them under a strike indicator depending on the current they will ride hook 
point up, though not necessarily vertical.  On a lake they will ride vertical, 
hook point up, under a strike indicator while sitting still, when you strip 
them the jig will go out of vertical but fall back when you pause.  60 and 45 
degree jig hooks and jigs are designed to be cast and retrieved along the 
bottom. The angle and placement of the jig head/bead make them less likely to 
snag.  You mentioned suspended patterns.  I usually think foam patterns, like 
sliders and Crease flies, fished off a intermediate or sinking line.  I'm 
assuming you're talking about fishing them under a strike indicator.  You're 
going to have to use a bead in order to get the fly to float hook point up with 
no weight it will most likely float hook point down.  I've been tying a few 
nymphs.  I try to place the hook on the angle part of the hook.  Hope this 
helps.  Temperature here is 73 degrees.  I had a dentist appointment and do not 
feel like fishing.

Jerry C

"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."

On February 21, 2018 at 11:35 AM Wes Wada  wrote:


Hi VFB!

Hope all goes well.

I saw an idea about the use of a jig hook for suspended fly patterns that I am 
investigating.  Up to now, I have not favored suspended patterns because they 
seem to have very poor hooking qualities.  A close friend, an excellent 
flyfisher, came to the same conclusion.

However, I aim to maintain my fool's status and want to see If I can correct 
the problem.

Can anyone tell me why the upright hookeye part of jig hooks come in varying 
angles?  The most common is the 90-degree, but hook manufacturers make 30 and 
60-degree models.  Why?  What is the effect of changing that angle?

--weather report--

We are finally getting some snow accumulation in Bend, Oregon.  Up til a week 
ago, much of the US west has been very dry, like 50% of normal historical 
snowpack.  But we have made some gains so prospects of a major drought, fires, 
low water, stressed fish etc. get pushed further out.


Thanks,
Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon



 

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[VFB] Jig Hooks Question

2018-02-21 Thread Wes Wada
Hi VFB!

Hope all goes well.

I saw an idea about the use of a jig hook for suspended fly patterns that I 
am investigating.  Up to now, I have not favored suspended patterns because 
they seem to have very poor hooking qualities.  A close friend, an 
excellent flyfisher, came to the same conclusion.

However, I aim to maintain my fool's status and want to see If I can 
correct the problem.

Can anyone tell me why the upright hookeye part of jig hooks come in 
varying angles?  The most common is the 90-degree, but hook manufacturers 
make 30 and 60-degree models.  Why?  What is the effect of changing that 
angle?

--weather report--

We are finally getting some snow accumulation in Bend, Oregon.  Up til a 
week ago, much of the US west has been very dry, like 50% of normal 
historical snowpack.  But we have made some gains so prospects of a major 
drought, fires, low water, stressed fish etc. get pushed further out.


Thanks,
Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon


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