Re: [VFB] Midge cementing tips...

2010-02-08 Thread glwebb
Nick,

 I really like you tip about the furled thread loop and then positioning it
where you need it.
Cheap too,

For those who might be a gadget freak..   this might be of interest to
someone :

http://www.micromark.com/MICRO-GLUE-APPLICATOR,8048.html

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Re: [VFB] Midge cementing tips...

2010-02-08 Thread scott bearden
Nick,

I discovered something similar a few years ago when I took up making bamboo
rods. It took me a while to settle on a couple of brushes that I like. When
doing delicate three turn intermediate wraps, a single drop from a dubbing
needle simply flooded the area all around the thread and onto the rod, and a
chisel tip brush was just as sloppy. I found the same problem with tying
flies in sizes 20 and smaller. I went to an artist supply store and found
fine tipped sable brushes that have just a few hairs in them. They are used
to make the finest lines in painting and are perfect for wicking a fine
amount of varnish or lacquer to the head of a fly. I use a size 16/0 brush,
but I couldn't find them online. I had to go to an artist supply store.

Regards,

Scott Bearden

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Re: [VFB] Midge cementing tips...

2010-02-08 Thread Bruce P. Whittle, DVM
MeddelandeNick,
A trick I learned from Earl Stanek (you may have met him at Sowbug - he used to 
work for 3M and ties the dragonflies with very realistic wings) is to cut the 
top 1/3 off of the eye of a small sewing needle.  It leaves a U shaped end 
which will only pick up a very small droplet of cement that can be placed very 
accurately.  I have not personally tried it but it seemed to work pretty slick.
Sincerely,
Bruce Whittle
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  I've been experimenting with different methods now, tying for Allan's Itsy 
Bitsy swap, and have come up with a few ones which worked very well to me. 
Dubbing needle... not to the #32's. No control... especially with thin cement 
such as Flex-Loc. Either you don't know if you got something there... or you 
find out that you did, when you see that it was way too much.

  Answer is tying thread and nothing more than that.

  Take a little bit of thread, make a knot, hold the knot with the tips of a 
couple of tweezers (or split the tip of a toothpick and hold it with that) and 
cut the thread JUST outside... and there you have an itty bitty brush to trap 
and apply the cement with.

  Another way to get that really tiny drop that's needed is to take a bit of 
thread and hold it between both hands. Then twist it and let it furl around 
itself. In the end of the furl there will be a little loop (size depending on 
how hard it was twisted). Keep holding it with both hands and dip it into the 
bottle. The loop will trap and hold a little drop. Then carefully unfurl by 
stretching. When fully stretched, the little drop will still be lying on the 
thread and can be placed where you want it, still holding the thread with both 
hands. If you then need more cement, just move your hands together and the 
already twisted thread will furl again, ready for picking up another drop of 
cement.

  /Nick

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Re: [VFB] Midge cementing tips...

2010-02-08 Thread Niclas Runarsson
That might work. I will try that one too.
 
The thread loop method is a very versatile one though. Twisting differently,
getting different drop sizes. Then another trick, which works especially
good on tiny heads, is to skip trying to get a drop (or if you still get
one, touch it so the surface tension bursts and it gets sucked into the
thread). Then loop the thread around the fly's head and tighten. It will
squeeze out a little bit of cement from it... much like a spongue.
 
/Nick

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Nick,
A trick I learned from Earl Stanek (you may have met him at Sowbug - he used
to work for 3M and ties the dragonflies with very realistic wings) is to cut
the top 1/3 off of the eye of a small sewing needle.  It leaves a U shaped
end which will only pick up a very small droplet of cement that can be
placed very accurately.  I have not personally tried it but it seemed to
work pretty slick.
Sincerely,
Bruce Whittle

- Original Message - 
From: Niclas Runarsson mailto:niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com  
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 6:28 PM
Subject: [VFB] Midge cementing tips...

I've been experimenting with different methods now, tying for Allan's Itsy
Bitsy swap, and have come up with a few ones which worked very well to me.
Dubbing needle... not to the #32's. No control... especially with thin
cement such as Flex-Loc. Either you don't know if you got something there...
or you find out that you did, when you see that it was way too much.
 
Answer is tying thread and nothing more than that.
 
Take a little bit of thread, make a knot, hold the knot with the tips of a
couple of tweezers (or split the tip of a toothpick and hold it with that)
and cut the thread JUST outside... and there you have an itty bitty brush to
trap and apply the cement with.
 
Another way to get that really tiny drop that's needed is to take a bit of
thread and hold it between both hands. Then twist it and let it furl around
itself. In the end of the furl there will be a little loop (size depending
on how hard it was twisted). Keep holding it with both hands and dip it into
the bottle. The loop will trap and hold a little drop. Then carefully
unfurl by stretching. When fully stretched, the little drop will still be
lying on the thread and can be placed where you want it, still holding the
thread with both hands. If you then need more cement, just move your hands
together and the already twisted thread will furl again, ready for picking
up another drop of cement.
 
/Nick





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