Re: [VFB] Here you go Don O
Seriously dude, there isn't going to be a UN take over of our water ways. But since you are willing to buy that I have this lovely bridge for sale... Scott On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com wrote: Please note that DOALOS, the UN agency in charge of administering LOST, claims the convention covers all ocean space, including everything on, in, under, and above the oceans. Note also the heavy use of the adjective all, as in all uses, all resources, all activities. But wait; as we shall see, the claims go even far beyond this to include global regulations that will override domestic laws covering not only coastal waters and shorelines, but also human activities in rivers and inland waterways, and land-based activities that may be claimed — no matter how far-fetched — to be harming the marine environment. http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/801 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Here you go Don O
Please read both paragraphs. The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), also called the Law of the Sea Convention or the Law of the Sea treaty, is the international agreement that resulted from the third United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS III), which took place from 1973 through 1982. The Law of the Sea Convention defines the rights and responsibilities of nations in their use of the world's oceans, establishing guidelines for businesses, the environment, and the management of marine natural resources. The Convention, concluded in 1982, replaced four 1958 treaties. UNCLOS came into force in 1994, a year after Guyana became the 60th state to sign the treaty.[1] To date, 158 countries and the European Community have joined in the Convention. However, it is now regarded as a codification of the customary international law on the issue. While the Secretary General of the United Nations receives instruments of ratification and accession and the UN provides support for meetings of states party to the Convention, the UN has no direct operational role in the implementation of the Convention. J -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Desert Eagle Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:26 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Here you go Don O Please note that DOALOS, the UN agency in charge of administering LOST, claims the convention covers all ocean space, including everything on, in, under, and above the oceans. Note also the heavy use of the adjective all, as in all uses, all resources, all activities. But wait; as we shall see, the claims go even far beyond this to include global regulations that will override domestic laws covering not only coastal waters and shorelines, but also human activities in rivers and inland waterways, and land-based activities that may be claimed - no matter how far-fetched - to be harming the marine environment. http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/801 Jimi, Please explain in greater detail if how the UN will be involved in policy and law-making about my flyfishing. What is the connection with the UN? DonO - Original Message - From: Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com To: Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:51 PM Subject: [VFB] You want scary, read this. Interim Report Of The Interagency Ocean PolicyTask Force September 10, 2009 http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/documents/09_17_09_Interim_Report_of_Task_F orce_FINAL2.pdf A Few excerpts; Climate change is impacting the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes. Increasing water temperatures are altering habitats, migratory patterns, and ecosystem structure and function. Coastal communities are facing sea-level rise, inundation, increased threats from storms, erosion, and significant loss of coastal wetlands. The ocean's ability to absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere buffers the impacts of climate change, but also causes the ocean to become more acidic, threatening not only the survival of individual species of marine life, but also entire marine ecosystems. The ocean buffers increased global temperatures by absorbing heat, but increasing temperatures are causing sea levels to rise by expanding seawater volume and melting land-based ice. Increased temperatures may eventually reduce the ocean's ability to absorb carbon dioxide. Conversely, climate change is predicted to lower the water levels of the Great Lakes, thereby altering water cycles, habitats, and economic uses of the lakes. The Administration's support for accession to the Law of the Sea Convention reflects several important objectives, including strengthening our Nation's ability to participate in and influence international law and policy related to the ocean. The United States will promote the objectives of this policy by: . Ensuring a comprehensive and collaborative framework for the stewardship of the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes that facilitates cohesive actions across the Federal Government, as well as participation of State, tribal, and local authorities, regional governance structures, non-governmental organizations, the public, and the private sector; . Cooperating and exercising leadership at the international level, including by joining the Law of the Sea Convention; and . Supporting ocean stewardship in a fiscally responsible manner. Or; 1. Healthy and Resilient Ocean, Coasts, and Great Lakes . Protect, maintain, and restore the health and biological diversity of ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes ecosystems and resources; . Improve the resiliency of ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes ecosystems, communities, and economies; . Bolster the conservation and sustainable uses of land in ways that will improve the health of ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes ecosystems; and . Use the best available science and knowledge to inform decisions affecting the ocean, our coasts,
Re: [VFB] Here you go Don O
I still side with Buggs- I don't feel any more threatened than ususal. Defining the rights and responsibilities of water use is a real task, as everyone will see it differently. Politicians can try to manage the people whom they feel are affecting the oceans in what they decide are detrimental ways. That's what politics is all about. But defining threats and dealing with them is a can of worms and a Pandora's box at best, especially on an international scale. And establishing guidelines for businesses, the environment, and the management of marine resources equally on an international basis would be basically ignored by most countries. What I do forsee, however, is 'power and money' doing whatever they can to 'guide the guidelines' in their favor, even if it takes buying off a few politicians (like that's new). DonO - Original Message - From: J Balmer jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:51 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] Here you go Don O Please read both paragraphs. The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), also called the Law of the Sea Convention or the Law of the Sea treaty, is the international agreement that resulted from the third United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS III), which took place from 1973 through 1982. The Law of the Sea Convention defines the rights and responsibilities of nations in their use of the world's oceans, establishing guidelines for businesses, the environment, and the management of marine natural resources. The Convention, concluded in 1982, replaced four 1958 treaties. UNCLOS came into force in 1994, a year after Guyana became the 60th state to sign the treaty.[1] To date, 158 countries and the European Community have joined in the Convention. However, it is now regarded as a codification of the customary international law on the issue. While the Secretary General of the United Nations receives instruments of ratification and accession and the UN provides support for meetings of states party to the Convention, the UN has no direct operational role in the implementation of the Convention. J -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Desert Eagle Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:26 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Here you go Don O Please note that DOALOS, the UN agency in charge of administering LOST, claims the convention covers all ocean space, including everything on, in, under, and above the oceans. Note also the heavy use of the adjective all, as in all uses, all resources, all activities. But wait; as we shall see, the claims go even far beyond this to include global regulations that will override domestic laws covering not only coastal waters and shorelines, but also human activities in rivers and inland waterways, and land-based activities that may be claimed - no matter how far-fetched - to be harming the marine environment. http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/801 Jimi, Please explain in greater detail if how the UN will be involved in policy and law-making about my flyfishing. What is the connection with the UN? DonO - Original Message - From: Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com To: Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:51 PM Subject: [VFB] You want scary, read this. Interim Report Of The Interagency Ocean PolicyTask Force September 10, 2009 http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/documents/09_17_09_Interim_Report_of_Task_F orce_FINAL2.pdf A Few excerpts; Climate change is impacting the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes. Increasing water temperatures are altering habitats, migratory patterns, and ecosystem structure and function. Coastal communities are facing sea-level rise, inundation, increased threats from storms, erosion, and significant loss of coastal wetlands. The ocean's ability to absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere buffers the impacts of climate change, but also causes the ocean to become more acidic, threatening not only the survival of individual species of marine life, but also entire marine ecosystems. The ocean buffers increased global temperatures by absorbing heat, but increasing temperatures are causing sea levels to rise by expanding seawater volume and melting land-based ice. Increased temperatures may eventually reduce the ocean's ability to absorb carbon dioxide. Conversely, climate change is predicted to lower the water levels of the Great Lakes, thereby altering water cycles, habitats, and economic uses of the lakes. The Administration's support for accession to the Law of the Sea Convention reflects several important objectives, including strengthening our Nation's ability to participate in and influence international law and policy related to the ocean. The United States will promote the objectives of this policy by: . Ensuring a comprehensive and collaborative
