Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left

2011-08-25 Thread ashley strutt
Hi Jimi,

Concerning the material list, I am sure (I will check tonight) that an
previous email wasn't so strict all the materials.
It was more the style  of fly and the email said how people wete able to
experiment.

Ashley
On 25 Aug 2011 15:08, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com wrote:
 Update as of this morning, 3 slots left.
 Jimi

 Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar
aquatic
 insects.

 * indicates required material to be in the fly
 # indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available

 Materials:
 *Ice-dub,
 #clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
 *clear head cement,
 *UV Wader repair
 *Pearl strips
 *Mono thread
 Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

 Due date would be Thankgiving.

 15 tiers +/-

 Flies due here by November 23rd 2011

 Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com

 1, Jimi, Swapmiester
 2, Ashley Strutt
 3, Eric Worm
 4, Jerry McKaughan
 5, Michael Bliss
 6, Don O
 7, J. Balmer
 8, Chappy
 9, Walter
 10, Peggy B
 11, Jack Lehman
 12, Gary Webb
 13,
 14,
 15,


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Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left

2011-08-25 Thread Don Ordes
If anyone wants to 'date themselves', they can tell us if they remember when 
Swannundaze came out.
Remember the articles in the Fly rags called the 'Swannundaze Craze'?

It was the hottest thing in tying for a few years, then the D-ribs and 
Larva-Lace came out.  I have gobs of all of it left over (another term for 
'hoarded').

A D-rib would be one-half of a Jelly-rope.  Swannundaze is a D-rib flattended 
out.  At the end it came in many sizes and colors.  And a Larva-lace would be a 
hollow Jelly-rope.  So any of these can be used for Juice-bugs.




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  Ashley, (and swappers)

  You are correct.  'Juice bugs' are just a style of fly that I've tied for 30 
years, starting with Swannundaze.

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Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left

2011-08-25 Thread ashley strutt

Got it,

This is the bit I was revering to

With the swappers applying their own materials and thoughts I think 
there will be a cadre of new and exciting creations that will cover a 
myriad of situations.


I was thinking along the lines of substituting dubbing similar to 
Ice-dub were I need to chance colour, blending purposes, etc.


Sorry if I offended but in the end it Jimis' swap

Cheers


Ashley

Ashley, (and swappers)
You are correct.  'Juice bugs' are just a style of fly that I've tied 
for 30 years, starting with Swannundaze.
With new materials came new applications- Vinyl, Sof-tex, Jelly-rope, 
etc., Now UV as the latest improvement.
The goal is to make a bug that looks 'juicy', that is, it looks like 
you can just 'squish it' and the juice will get all over your 
fingers.  If you have some old Swannundaze, you could use that, or 
clear D-rib, or clear Larva-lace, or...   I've even used strips of 
heavy mono to make a clear shell, and surgical tubing for salt shrimp.
The one goal of any effort would be to create transparency.  I don't 
like epoxy because of the smell and weight and yellowing and the time 
to dry (drying wheels) and the mess and fuss with mixing, the waste, 
and...
On the simple side, just a scud rope-dubbed with reflective or 
synthetic dubbing, segmented, with a good coat of UV on the top 
side will make a juice-bug.  Let it cure and pick out some legs and 
you'll have a scud like a lot of them look in my box, because that's 
just what I did.  A 30-second fly to tie and doing a group with the UV 
doesn't take long.  A second coat of UV and the results are amazing.
A bare hook wrapped with pearl strip and then jelly-roped on the top, 
and then soaked with vinyl and then covered on the top with UV looks 
really cool- pearlescent-transparent.
The thinned vinyl is to penetrate all your materials and make a solid 
fly, allowing the materials below to come to the surface as special 
effect colors.  Then the UV coat gives transparent depth and allows 
all the undercolors to do even more amazing things.
But after a few of these simple ones you may get adventuresome.  Using 
the juice-bug tutorial as a basis lends for some experimentation.  
Nice thing is that everything comes out cool and fishable and gives 
you more ideas.  So everyone's entries may be a hodge-podge of 
experiments gone well.  I have a 100 or so in my boxes and have given 
away that many.  I went back to old boxes and took out discard flies 
and treated them with the UV, glitter, and markers, and got some 
amazing new fishing flies.
You'll find that markers and glitters are easy to use and give great 
results.  You may hit on the simplest combo that the fish just can't 
resist.  For panfish, I would do a pink ice-dub segmented scud with 
opal glitter in the UV- just a tad- would be killer.  Chuck's pink 
panfish producer was rope-dubbed pink ice-dub.
Just remember, it's a fun swap intended to let tiers play with 
techniques, especially Jelly-rope and UV goop.

DonO



Hi Jimi,

Concerning the material list, I am sure (I will check tonight)
that an previous email wasn't so strict all the materials.
It was more the style  of fly and the email said how people wete
able to experiment.

Ashley

On 25 Aug 2011 15:08, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com
mailto:j...@hdc-nm.com wrote:
 Update as of this morning, 3 slots left.
 Jimi

 Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/
similar aquatic
 insects.

 * indicates required material to be in the fly
 # indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available

 Materials:
 *Ice-dub,
 #clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
 *clear head cement,
 *UV Wader repair
 *Pearl strips
 *Mono thread
 Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

 Due date would be Thankgiving.

 15 tiers +/-




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Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left

2011-08-25 Thread Jimi AKA Desert Eagle
No offense taken Ashley

Would like to have you in the swap.
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for any sort of disaster, or power outage, or being stranded 
on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do to 
be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about WHY you have the Freedom that you do enjoy now.

  The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him. G.K. Chesterton

  When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. Thomas Jefferson

  If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!
  - Original Message - 
  From: ashley strutt 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left


  Got it,

  This is the bit I was revering to 

  With the swappers applying their own materials and thoughts I think there 
will be a cadre of new and exciting creations that will cover a myriad of 
situations.

  I was thinking along the lines of substituting dubbing similar to Ice-dub 
were I need to chance colour, blending purposes, etc.

  Sorry if I offended but in the end it Jimis' swap

  Cheers


  Ashley

Ashley, (and swappers)

You are correct.  'Juice bugs' are just a style of fly that I've tied for 
30 years, starting with Swannundaze.

With new materials came new applications- Vinyl, Sof-tex, Jelly-rope, etc., 
Now UV as the latest improvement.

The goal is to make a bug that looks 'juicy', that is, it looks like you 
can just 'squish it' and the juice will get all over your fingers.  If you have 
some old Swannundaze, you could use that, or clear D-rib, or clear Larva-lace, 
or...   I've even used strips of heavy mono to make a clear shell, and surgical 
tubing for salt shrimp.

The one goal of any effort would be to create transparency.  I don't like 
epoxy because of the smell and weight and yellowing and the time to dry (drying 
wheels) and the mess and fuss with mixing, the waste, and...

On the simple side, just a scud rope-dubbed with reflective or synthetic 
dubbing, segmented, with a good coat of UV on the top side will make a 
juice-bug.  Let it cure and pick out some legs and you'll have a scud like a 
lot of them look in my box, because that's just what I did.  A 30-second fly to 
tie and doing a group with the UV doesn't take long.  A second coat of UV and 
the results are amazing. 

A bare hook wrapped with pearl strip and then jelly-roped on the top, and 
then soaked with vinyl and then covered on the top with UV looks really cool- 
pearlescent-transparent.

The thinned vinyl is to penetrate all your materials and make a solid fly, 
allowing the materials below to come to the surface as special effect colors.  
Then the UV coat gives transparent depth and allows all the undercolors to do 
even more amazing things.

But after a few of these simple ones you may get adventuresome.  Using the 
juice-bug tutorial as a basis lends for some experimentation.  Nice thing is 
that everything comes out cool and fishable and gives you more ideas.  So 
everyone's entries may be a hodge-podge of experiments gone well.  I have a 100 
or so in my boxes and have given away that many.  I went back to old boxes and 
took out discard flies and treated them with the UV, glitter, and markers, and 
got some amazing new fishing flies.

You'll find that markers and glitters are easy to use and give great 
results.  You may hit on the simplest combo that the fish just can't resist.  
For panfish, I would do a pink ice-dub segmented scud with opal glitter in the 
UV- just a tad- would be killer.  Chuck's pink panfish producer was rope-dubbed 
pink ice-dub. 

Just remember, it's a fun swap intended to let tiers play with techniques, 
especially Jelly-rope and UV goop.

DonO




  Hi Jimi,

  Concerning the material list, I am sure (I will check tonight) that an 
previous email wasn't so strict all the materials.
  It was more the style  of fly and the email said how people wete able to 
experiment.


  Ashley

  On 25 Aug 2011 15:08, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com wrote:
   Update as of this morning, 3 slots left.
   Jimi
   
   Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar 
aquatic
   insects.
   
   * indicates required material to be in the fly
   # indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available
   
   Materials

Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left

2011-08-25 Thread ashley strutt

Thanks Jimi,

Already in the swap, I'll be walking the 200yards on Saturday to the 
craft shop for the Jelly rope and nylon thread :-) .


Ashley

No offense taken Ashley
Would like to have you in the swap.
  Jimi


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Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left

2011-08-25 Thread Jimi AKA Desert Eagle
So you are, should read my own e-mails more often...;-))
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for any sort of disaster, or power outage, or being stranded 
on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do to 
be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about WHY you have the Freedom that you do enjoy now.

  The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him. G.K. Chesterton

  When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. Thomas Jefferson

  If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!
  - Original Message - 
  From: ashley strutt 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left


  Thanks Jimi,

  Already in the swap, I'll be walking the 200yards on Saturday to the craft 
shop for the Jelly rope and nylon thread :-) .

  Ashley

No offense taken Ashley

Would like to have you in the swap.
  Jimi




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