Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
The problem with Veoh is not ideals but execution. We all want to make a living, but they are just a bit too obvious about it. Yes, products, consumption and desire are integral parts of our lives, but to exploit these traits without consent, especially when its conveniently timed with the raising of a 12 million dollar round of investment (from time warner and diesney ilk no less), is bad form. If they've got a decent product, then god speed for them, but what I've seen so far is just a bad excuse for a YouTube wannabe. Make something that rocks and makes me happy and I will be a fan. So far the only reason I use Veoh is to see Steve Garfield's monkey picture. +nathan On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 1:31 am, robert a/k/a r wrote: I was just going through a few links and stumbled across a Veoh interview (from earlier this year) where they talk about editorial and advertising. The quote really jumped out at me, I can't put my finger on exactly why. Here's a quote and below is the link to the full article; Sometimes those recommendations will be videos. But sometimes they will be advertisements. And if Dunning's crazy math works like it is supposed to, you might not even know the difference between the two. We look at advertising as content, says Shapiro. Targetted advertising is potent content. As an example, he shows me a clip of a videoblogger driving around in a Porsche in Germany. It is not an ad, but it might as well be one. What if, suggests Shapiro, there were a Porsche logo in the corner that said more info available. And if you click it, you get several options, such as download a four-minute infomercial or longer, official Porsche driving videos for later viewing, or watch them now, or send an e-mail to yourself with a link to a Porche Website. http://business2.blogs.com/business2blog/2006/02/scoop_veoh_take.html Maybe if I were there at the presentation and had seen their Porsche video I would have appreciated their comments better. I wonder if other aggregators are considering similar strategies. -- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively my vlog: http://r.24x7.com great hosting: http://foo.24x7.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] BSP: Should Journalist Josh Wolf Be Afraid? --SF Weekly
I do not know the person who has been charged with placing fireworks under the police car. In regards to the first question, I'm not really sure that I am not doing both. In presenting news of the demonstration I have created an excerpted video of what I saw observing the demonstration. I can't really say that it isn't my personal version of what transpired, but in a sense that's what news is, an observers version of what they feel has transpired. Josh On Apr 22, 2006, at 1:53 AM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:53:40 +0200, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Wolf, the government subpoena of his tape represents a threat to his ability to gather news as an independent reporter. He believes it's yet another reel cast in a Justice Department fishing expedition that will stop at nothing to put his activist compatriots behind bars. So what is it? Are you a reporter reporting news (news, not your personal version of what transpired) or are you trying to keep your buddy who lit fireworks under a police car out of jail? -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into to peace. Power to the peaceful! Spearhead - Bomb the World SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] BSP: Should Journalist Josh Wolf Be Afraid? --SF Weekly
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:44:02 +0200, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In regards to the first question, I'm not really sure that I am not doing both. In presenting news of the demonstration I have created an excerpted video of what I saw observing the demonstration. I can't really say that it isn't my personal version of what transpired, but in a sense that's what news is, an observers version of what they feel has transpired. Yeah, I realized right after hitting send that I phrased it wrong. I meant news, not your personal account of what you thought *should* have happened. Sorry about that. My point is just that I, as an outsider to the case, can't trust your footage anymore than I can trust the police's version of the story. With so-called citizen journalists the readers/viewers have an even worse chance of figuring out affiliations and bias. For all I know you could've been an active participant in the demonstration. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] BSP: Should Journalist Josh Wolf Be Afraid? --SF Weekly
It's difficult for the average person to know the affiliations and biases of the real news organizations. For example, Italy has two or more newsweeklies more or less on the Time/Newsweek format. I know that one is owned by Berlusconi's empire, but I can't remember which one. So I don't bother to read either (I read the Economist instead). Probably most educated Italians do know exactly who owns what, but there is a large mass of uneducated people who don't. On 4/22/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:44:02 +0200, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In regards to the first question, I'm not really sure that I am not doing both. In presenting news of the demonstration I have created an excerpted video of what I saw observing the demonstration. I can't really say that it isn't my personal version of what transpired, but in a sense that's what news is, an observers version of what they feel has transpired. Yeah, I realized right after hitting send that I phrased it wrong. I meant news, not your personal account of what you thought *should* have happened. Sorry about that. My point is just that I, as an outsider to the case, can't trust your footage anymore than I can trust the police's version of the story. With so-called citizen journalists the readers/viewers have an even worse chance of figuring out affiliations and bias. For all I know you could've been an active participant in the demonstration. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Veoh article
My content had been there for 4 months. Not a week or two. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I recall it, the hoo-ha over Veoh's hijacking people's content happened about a week before the announcement of the funding. Perhaps that content had been in there a week or two before anybody in this group noticed. We then had the vehement discussion that everyone knows about, it was even picked up by some non-group bloggers and got some press. A few days later came the VC announcement. Did the presence of the misappropriated content mislead a VC into investing in Veoh? Several people in this group have implied or baldly stated as much. However, I would be extremely surprised if it were true. It would take a really stupid, impulsive VC to make an investment decision based on the content present on the site over a brief period of time. They would also have to have been completely out of touch with the world of online video not to have noticed the fuss over Veoh in this group and elsewhere. Things happen fast in high-tech investment, but not that fast, and these folks are not stupid. You don't dispose of $12 million without due diligence, which takes time, and means a lot more than a glance at Veoh's site. So can we please drop this angle of the discussion as silly and irresponsible? You are, after all, making quasi-criminal charges against the executives of Veoh, accusing them of acting to deliberately mislead investors. There are laws against libel, even on the Internet. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: BSP: Should Journalist Josh Wolf Be Afraid? --SF Weekly
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know the person who has been charged with placing fireworks under the police car. In regards to the first question, I'm not really sure that I am not doing both. In presenting news of the demonstration I have created an excerpted video of what I saw observing the demonstration. I can't really say that it isn't my personal version of what transpired, but in a sense that's what news is, an observers version of what they feel has transpired. This issue interests me on many levels. First, I have worked in broadcast television as a documentary film maker in situations where I also covered hard news. For example, way back in 1963, one of my first projects was to cover the South during the civil rights activities in Birmingham, Selma, Greenwood Mississippi, etc. I still see footage on tv that I shot then. But I was there in a professional role, working for National Educational Television, the precursor of PBS. My understanding of that role, and my expeience and training leading up to it, was that I was to film as objectively as I could (granted all the adrenaline and testosterone flowiing) in order to convey as accurately as possible what took place. I have since gone on to work in cinema verite films and established a reputation for accuracy in film making. It is my sense that back in those days law enforcement on the scene had a certain respect for guys with film cameras becaue they could easily spot the pros and trusted them. It was only much later that I was hassled just becaue I was shooting something. And that is when I was carrying what looked like an amateur video camera. I really need to give this subject more thought. It is important now because there is talk on this list, as well as in the newspaper article in this thread, about citizen journalists (or whatever) taking over the media and that traditional broadcast media will be obsolete. Frankly, fine and good because they deserve a foul fate. But I worry about two things: the large broadcast companies (networks) convene the community as a whole to events and provide a common reference point for discussion across cultural and socio-economic lines. And the second point I worry about is the loss of a certain professional role and skills in the coverage of news events. I am still feeling my way through these issues in my vlogging activities. But I thought I should offer my past experience to this discussion. News coverage to the whole community, not just a series of people preaching to various choirs, is terribly important to a democracy. I am worried about it. Stan Hirson http://hestablog.com http://hestakaup.com But now we have the citizen with a camera. And I have recently been doing that, too. But I have kept the same standards as I had back in the '60s. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] tag clouds for archive collections
Hi all, Here's a nifty trail tag cloud for the prelinger collection at the internet archive http://www.archive.org/browse.php?field=/metadata/subjectcollection=prelingerview=cloud or http://tinyurl.com/qh869 Do other people find these useful? Just in case, here's the wikipedia definition of a tag cloud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
while i don't disagree with you about the Veoh issue I'd like to point out that there are a lot of these in California trust me, it's hard not to trip over them :) VC often stands for Visionally Challenged I think they get special parking now too Deirdre Straughan wrote: On 4/22/06, nathan.freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would take a really stupid, impulsive VC to make an investment decision based on the content present on the site over a brief period of time. They would also have to have been completely out of touch with the world of online video not to have noticed the fuss over Veoh in this group and elsewhere. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
The content had been up there for a while. Josh Kinberg and I noticed it during SXSW (a month before the thing here) and as David noted, he'd seen it 4 months ago. Since nobody here really uses the service there's no telling how long it was up there. They certainly had many of my videos that had dropped from my RSS feed already. -Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
Deirdre Straughan wrote: So can we please drop this angle of the discussion as silly and irresponsible? You are, after all, making quasi-criminal charges against the executives of Veoh, accusing them of acting to deliberately mislead investors. There are laws against libel, even on the Internet. I wasn't accusing anyone of committing a crime, just questioning taste and tone. Pardon me if it came out a bit harsh. I'm actually a big fan of Veoh's desktop player, social networking, and p2p distribution technology, which I am guessing/hoping where most of their true value is. Regards, Nathan YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Veoh article
However, I would be extremely surprised if it were true. It would take a really stupid, impulsive VC to make an investment decision based on the content present on the site over a brief period of time. They would also have to have been completely out of touch with the world of online video not to have noticed the fuss over Veoh in this group and elsewhere. To amplify Markus, there are plenty of knucklehead VCs out there. Anybody remember pets.com. I think you can still pick up the sock puppets on Ebay. There are laws against libel, even on the Internet. In this day and age, with the likes of George W Bush, it's nice to see that there are a few people left who actually think the US legal system is going to protect us from corporate-backed companies like Veoh. A bad business model, or bad press, might kill Veoh. I personally don't think it will be because our wonderful legal system is fighting the good fight. Call me jaded. Check out EFF. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh article
On 4/22/06, Jeff Marquis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are laws against libel, even on the Internet. In this day and age, with the likes of George W Bush, it's nice to see that there are a few people left who actually think the US legal system is going to protect us from corporate-backed companies like Veoh. A bad business model, or bad press, might kill Veoh. I personally don't think it will be because our wonderful legal system is fighting the good fight. Call me jaded. Check out EFF.This is not about you personally but... after all the people screaming in here about Veoh violating their copyrights, it seems only reasonable to point out that companies do have some rights to be protected from slander. And if you want any entity, whether a person or a corporation, to treat you with consideration, it's only fair that you do the same for them. It is within the realms of possibility that Veoh did act in bad faith and did trick a particularly stupid VC company into giving them money on that basis. But... is that an accusation we should really be flinging around without even considering the benefit of the doubt? Another aspect of this that has got up my nose is just how ready some of us were to pile on and suspect the darkest motives even when Dmitry was apparently trying to make amends. Companies are made up of people and, surprsingly enough, company people resond just as well to a kind word and a non-belligerent attitude as anyone else. Whether the law gets applied equally in all cases is a whole 'nother argument. Don't tell me about law favoring the rich and those in power - I live in Italy, where outgoing Prime Minister Berlusconi originally got into politics (using his considerable financial and media clout) most likely to keep his own butt out of jail. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: BSP: Should Journalist Josh Wolf Be Afraid? --SF Weekly
Hey Josh, I think the short answer is Yes. I'm quaking with anger just reading this. You might not know who Jack Anderson was but the Feds are trying to do this to him and he's dead. Anderson was a journalist who was able to dig deep and find out top secret infomation. The Feds are trying to go through his documents to obtain his papers and potential classified documents. More to the point, if I observe a situation that requires LAPD attendence and I record it that means I can expect a visit from J. Edgar's Boys? And LAPD? Damnation. I don't like the choices that are presenting themselves. I'm recording no matter what! Oh man, I can't think straight. This is what I am confused about: If I am documenting a situation does that not make me a journalist? Doesn't matter how I do it, via pen, photo or video. At that point of creation doesn't the protections of journalists come into effect? If I have a body of work - either paid or unpaid that demostrates that I have done this activity for x-amount of time then I should be protected under various journalism protections. Or if your local NBC station had the same video you did would the Fed show up at the station door? What would the news director tell them? The label profesional does not matter. When the early African American journalists of 1800 - 1900's could not or would not be published by the existing media they created their own. They were not thought to be professionals by the mainstream white media at the time. Didn't matter. They were representing their communities that were not being servied by the publications of the time. Are you not doing the same thing? Representing your community? I have to go but this post has me all shook up. This is a good thing. Be safe Josh but do what you feel is right. And to our new federal lurkers, ...well, you know. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should journalist Josh Wolf be afraid? The Assistant U.S. Attorney, the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, and the SFPD want to get their hands on a video shot by a San Francisco blogger By Ryan Blitstein http://www.sfweekly.com/Issues/2006-04-19/news/news.html At times, Josh Wolf is a journalist. At others, he's a blogger, an activist, or an anarchist. At this particular time, one thing's for certain: He's got a videotape the federal government wants. The 23-year-old San Franciscan possesses a tape that Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Finigan deems essential to a grand jury investigation of a protest last July that resulted in injuries to two San Francisco Police Department officers. To Wolf, the government subpoena of his tape represents a threat to his ability to gather news as an independent reporter. He believes it's yet another reel cast in a Justice Department fishing expedition that will stop at nothing to put his activist compatriots behind bars. To the government, however, Wolf is a misguided, self-important young radical withholding evidence without legal justification. Regardless of the outcome, Wolf's predicament raises questions about how much information journalists should turn over to the federal government, and how the legal system handles those who draw little distinction between citizen journalism and citizen activism. Though many facts are disputed, all parties agree that Wolf videotaped a July 8, 2006, protest march in San Francisco against the G8 Summit taking place in Scotland. At previous protests, Wolf had attended as an advocate for a cause, but this time he went as a journalist, gathering footage for his videoblog, The Revolution Will Be Televised (www.joshwolf.net). Most of the time I go out, I feel like I'm a fly on the wall, Wolf says. Whether or not I agree with what they're doing, my role is to document it. On the portion of Wolf's video that he released publicly, dozens of protesters, some dressed in black and wearing face masks, marched down the street in the Mission carrying signs and placards with anticapitalist, anti-government slogans or bearing the logo of the group Anarchist Action. Around dusk, things went awry; the tape shows marchers setting off fireworks and dragging metal newsstand boxes into the street to block traffic. SFPD Officers Michael Wolf (no relation to Josh) and Pete Shields were among those called to the scene to quell what was fast becoming a small riot, with protesters allegedly breaking windows of businesses with baseball bats. When their patrol car was blocked by a very large foam sign under the chassis, the cops exited the vehicle near the corner of Valencia and 23rd. Wolf chased after a man he suspected of placing the sign under the car. In Josh's video, Officer Wolf is shown struggling to cuff the suspect amid shouts of: Get off him, you're choking him! and Hey cop, you're going to
[videoblogging] network neutrality and savetheinternet.com
Hi everyone, Right now I'm blogging from the Yale Law School's Access to Knowledge conference. I'm at a standing-room-only session on network neutrality, a contentious policy battle currently taking place in Congress. Telecom providers are lobbying to be able to create a multi-tiered internet, in which people who pay the most get the best bandwidth and access to partner websites, while those who don't get slow access and blocked from partner sites. For example, Rogers Cable acknowledged that it prioritizes some content and applications over others; they get more bandwidth. Lower prioritization, in contrast, goes to file sharing, podcasting and video blogging, making it more expensive for people to access content and create it. I've posted notes from the panel session here: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/04/network_neutrality_p.html Meanwhile, on Monday there will be the launch of the Save The Internet Campaign (http://www.savetheinternet.com/) to ensure that telecom providers provide equitable access to bandwidth and content to all people and not penalize low-income customers. They're also launching a blog here: http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/ Coalition members come from across the political spectrum: Lawrence Lessig, Craig Newmark of Craigslist, Free Press, Consumers Union, Glenn Reynolds, Gun Owners of America, MoveOn.org and many others. andy -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.andycarvin.com -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)
I'm happy to put people up in Berkeley (across the bay but next to a BART station, plus I'll be driving over each day).. email me off list.. I have room for 2 people to share a room if you are together (a bit more comfortable), plus another room for one. Also, if people wanted to stay but not share, we could do one in each room. Either way, I'm happy to help people from far away defray the costs. mary On Apr 20, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Monique Danielle wrote: I'm thinking about going, but I'm worried that I too new to the community and will be sort of a wall flower. Also, while I'm liberal and funky at heart, I'm also a middle class mom, so I fear that I won't be 'hip' enough Cheers Monique Danielle http://www.vlogdiva.com http://www.vlogchallenge.com -Original Message- From: Markus Sandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:31 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope) i sure hope you can make it nathan btw, i really liked your story the other day about your driving test in Japan. http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com/?p=96 127 posts!!! dude, you rock. regards, markus Nathan Miller wrote: Cross your fingers for me...gonna ask for time off tommorrow to head to San Fran...however it will be a 2000 USD dollar trip for me, and that is kinda holding me back too... Just reading the emails about vloggercon drives me crazy. I so dearly want to meet everyone, however I just started a new job, who could ask for worst timing... Nathan Miller http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com Yahoo! Groups Links . -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Mary Hodder CEO: Dabble Blog: Napsterization.org/stories YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Trademark/Copyrights Question
I noticed on Veoh, they have a complete Gumby video on the home page in the 'featured videos' section.http://veoh.com/I assume the particular Gumby video http://tinyurl.com/jruf7 is public domain because Michael Eisner is featuring it, along with a couple of complete Superman videos that I have seen tagged as public domain on the Archive before.Since I am then allowed to use the public domain video of Gumby to create or recreate my own work, or version, wouldn't that mean that I may also freely refashion Gumby for a contemporary world? In otherwords, if I am able use the video myself to make my own video, I would make a new Gumby out of the old Gumby. I would use the music in the video, mash the likeness, reshape him a bit physically speaking, but would especially make his psyche much different; he would do and say different kinds of things and have different body behaviors, for instance. I might have some plans to add a couple of permeant deformations to his walk and give his a few classic behavioral problems, for instance. Gumby himself could change and evolve instead of be trapped in time, the way he is now. Perhaps I could give the new Gumby away for free and encourage others to take him and develop him. Gumby could be reborn into a global star!Would I be allowed to do all of the above with my public domain Gumby without getting into trouble with the Gumby trademark and other later, non-public domain Gumby stuff claimed to be owned entirely by a private entity?http://tinyurl.com/mgu4qI would assume that somehow, I would not be able to reshape Gumby, even if I did it all with the materials that I got from the public domain Gumby video.Surely, there is a conflict here and I would assume there is a simple answer that has already been worked out legally. Does anyone know what that would be? YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
Thank you and Amen.I totally agree and have said as much.sullOn 4/22/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 4/22/06, nathan.freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with Veoh is not ideals but execution. We all want to make a living, but they are just a bit too obvious about it. Yes, products, consumption and desire are integral parts of our lives, but to exploit these traits without consent, especially when its conveniently timed with the raising of a 12 million dollar round of investment (from time warner and diesney ilk no less), is bad form. Through no personal interest except sheer irritation, I'd like to layto rest this rumor of the convenient timing of Veoh's content hijackvis-a-vis their investment announcement.As I recall it, the hoo-ha over Veoh's hijacking people's content happened about a week before the announcement of the funding. Perhapsthat content had been in there a week or two before anybody in thisgroup noticed. We then had the vehement discussion that everyone knows about, it was even picked up by some non-group bloggers and got somepress.A few days later came the VC announcement.Did the presence of the misappropriated content mislead a VC intoinvesting in Veoh? Several people in this group have implied or baldly stated as much.However, I would be extremely surprised if it were true. It would takea really stupid, impulsive VC to make an investment decision based onthe content present on the site over a brief period of time. They would also have to have been completely out of touch with the world ofonline video not to have noticed the fuss over Veoh in this group andelsewhere.Things happen fast in high-tech investment, but not that fast, and these folks are not stupid. You don't dispose of $12 million withoutdue diligence, which takes time, and means a lot more than a glance atVeoh's site.So can we please drop this angle of the discussion as silly and irresponsible? You are, after all, making quasi-criminal chargesagainst the executives of Veoh, accusing them of acting todeliberately mislead investors. There are laws against libel, even onthe Internet. --best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work)Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] positioning text w/quicktime pro7?
I'm trying to add some text to a clip using QT Pro 7 and I can't figure out how to get the text centered vertically. It's hanging out on the top of the screen which looks lame. Anyone know how to center text vertically using QT pro 7. I've found stuff on the web for version 6, but not 7. Thanks for any hints! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] tag clouds for archive collections
On 4/22/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Here's a nifty trail tag cloud for the prelinger collection at the internet archive http://www.archive.org/browse.php?field=/metadata/subjectcollection=prelingerview=cloud or http://tinyurl.com/qh869 Do other people find these useful? Wow, that's great Markus, thanks for posting this. It's tough to find stuff in there that might be what I am looking for. Just in case, here's the wikipedia definition of a tag cloud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Michael Eisner joins Veoh
Glad to hear it! (And I hope you are, too!) Harold On 4/21/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,Yeah, it's working for me now too.(Listening to it right now.)See ya On 4/21/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fyi, i tried earlier too and it was not accessible at that time for mei just tried again and it started right up within a few secondssame connection on this end Harold Johnson wrote: It's just a really large file, Charles;I just tested it and it took about 10 minutes to download from the server on my DSL connection.(It's about 76MB, since the podcast runsabout 80 minutes -- but well worth, I hope you'll agree!) Please let me know if it never seems to arrive, and I'll deliver you an alternate link to download the audio. Perhaps I'll place it in on my VoyagerRadio.com server so that it downloads faster in the future...I just wanted to keep it coming from Liberated Syndication's servers so that I get their fancy stats! Thanks again, Harold On 4/21/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Harold,That link to that MP3 doesn't seem to work.See ya On 4/21/06, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listen to (or read) Lessig; he'll tell you all Disney's role in f*ckin' up copyright for everyone else (but themselves). I love Disneyland, but I'm not so certain about the company anymore... Here's also a podcast I produced regarding, in part, Disney's role in copyright: http://libsyn.com/media/haroldjjohnson/TotD_2005-10-26_Session_05.mp3 or you can find a link to it and view more info. about it on voyagerradio.com. Harold On 4/19/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: definitely a major part of it, although I think much of the credit goes to Sonny Bonoi hope that bastard's in hell listening to illegal re-mix's of i got you babe over and over again Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello,Isn't Disney responsible for copyrights (practically) never ending. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act See ya On 4/18/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look... I'm sorry guys, but at least I can quote The Little Mermaidline by line!All I'm saying is that the Disney Vault is one of the most evilcorporate plots of our time... Casey--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Geez Casey! Bambis father died in a forest fire. ;) David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:48:58 +0200, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote:The IRONY!I guess he wasn't, in fact, the individual responsible for creating the Disney Vault concept.Whoever thought that up should be shot like Bambi's father. It was Bambi's mother that was shot. Where's your culture?! :o) -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Michael Eisner joins Veoh
Thanks, Markus. I wonder if I should add video imagery to it? That's been something in my mind for awhile, but it would probably be a separate feed... Harold On 4/21/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh, and i think VoyagerRadio is terrific! Markus Sandy wrote: fyi, i tried earlier too and it was not accessible at that time for mei just tried again and it started right up within a few secondssame connection on this end Harold Johnson wrote: It's just a really large file, Charles;I just tested it and it took about 10 minutes to download from the server on my DSL connection.(It's about 76MB, since the podcast runsabout 80 minutes -- but well worth, I hope you'll agree!) Please let me know if it never seems to arrive, and I'll deliver you an alternate link to download the audio. Perhaps I'll place it in on my VoyagerRadio.com server so that it downloads faster in the future...I just wanted to keep it coming from Liberated Syndication's servers so that I get their fancy stats! Thanks again, Harold On 4/21/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Harold,That link to that MP3 doesn't seem to work. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
