Re: [videoblogging] Re: pyro.tv transcoding and rehosting your stuff

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Garfield
It matters.

I just emailed them to fix it.

No link back to permalink of blog entry ( it's in the feed )

http://network2.tv/episode/2832833/

No display of CC license ( it's in the feed )

http://network2.tv/episode/2832833/

--Steve

On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:

  if sites like
 network2 are opt-in now, then I suppose it doesnt amtter so much if
 they dont show creative commons feed info?

--
Steve Garfield
http://SteveGarfield.com





[videoblogging] Re: pyro.tv transcoding and rehosting your stuff

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
Aha, interesting, I hadnt noticed the permalink issue.

Their publishers page still says We build a page for each producer's
show, complete with your show name, a link to your original website,
links to your RSS feed (for an audience to subscribe), and links to
the original media. so hopefully this is just some oversight when
they redesigned their site - was it working as advertised in the past?

Hmm I said I wouldnt still be ranting about network2 in 6 months, but
that was based on no new violations of creators rights. Still, I feel
more than a little awkward being in this territory again.

I had hoped that the strong networking by network2's Chris Brogan, the
participation of some vloggers in that VON and other meetups, and the
participation by some members of this community in the network2
competition, meant there were exceedingly strong channels of
communication between creators and network2, and that therefore this
sort of thing was unlikely to happen.

What do people think about them now including easily cutpasteable
'permalinks' for your videos, which are permalinks to the network2
page for the show, and also their embedded player, which I havent
tried yet but suspect will be another feature designed to drive
traffic to their site and not to the content creators.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It matters.
 
 I just emailed them to fix it.
 
 No link back to permalink of blog entry ( it's in the feed )
 
 http://network2.tv/episode/2832833/
 
 No display of CC license ( it's in the feed )
 
 http://network2.tv/episode/2832833/
 
 --Steve
 
 On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
 
   if sites like
  network2 are opt-in now, then I suppose it doesnt amtter so much if
  they dont show creative commons feed info?
 
 --
 Steve Garfield
 http://SteveGarfield.com





[videoblogging] New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?

Some details here:

http://blog.blip.tv/blog/

Cheers

Steve Elbows



Re: [videoblogging] Re: pyro.tv transcoding and rehosting your stuff

2007-04-15 Thread Ron Watson
 We build a page for each producer's
 show, complete with your show name, a link to your original website,
 links to your RSS feed (for an audience to subscribe), and links to
 the original media.

I think that is an interesting statement.

My 'original' website links to my RSS feed, and links to my  
'original' media.

The only problem is that they are not respecting my 'original' media.  
Or my original site. Or my RSS feed (or at least Steve's which has a  
proper CC in the feed...).

They are creating new media with my content. That's uncool.

I have yet to ask them to remove our show from their listings, as I  
have yet to do with Magnify.net, which I consider to be the same  
disrespectful business model of Pyro and My Heavy.

These asshats need to start playing by some respectful rules. Just  
because they went out and whored themselves for big VC money doesn't  
give them the right to slurp up our content and give us some song and  
dance about how they really are helping us.

For crying out loud! Is it that difficult to give a link and not to  
re-encode content, and to drive traffic to the original site? Of  
course it's not.

They simply have zero respect for independent content creators. And  
that's the real rub, isn't it?

I mean is anyone here not offended by the total lack of respect that  
they give all of us?

I'd like to see a my heavy, pyro, magnify business model that was  
scraping corporate media's content.

Cheers,
Ron Watson

On the Web:
http://pawsitivevybe.com
http://k9disc.com
http://k9disc.blip.tv


On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Steve Watkins wrote:

 Aha, interesting, I hadnt noticed the permalink issue.

 Their publishers page still says We build a page for each producer's
 show, complete with your show name, a link to your original website,
 links to your RSS feed (for an audience to subscribe), and links to
 the original media. so hopefully this is just some oversight when
 they redesigned their site - was it working as advertised in the past?

 Hmm I said I wouldnt still be ranting about network2 in 6 months, but
 that was based on no new violations of creators rights. Still, I feel
 more than a little awkward being in this territory again.

 I had hoped that the strong networking by network2's Chris Brogan, the
 participation of some vloggers in that VON and other meetups, and the
 participation by some members of this community in the network2
 competition, meant there were exceedingly strong channels of
 communication between creators and network2, and that therefore this
 sort of thing was unlikely to happen.

 What do people think about them now including easily cutpasteable
 'permalinks' for your videos, which are permalinks to the network2
 page for the show, and also their embedded player, which I havent
 tried yet but suspect will be another feature designed to drive
 traffic to their site and not to the content creators.

 Cheers

 Steve Elbows

 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 
  It matters.
 
  I just emailed them to fix it.
 
  No link back to permalink of blog entry ( it's in the feed )
 
  http://network2.tv/episode/2832833/
 
  No display of CC license ( it's in the feed )
 
  http://network2.tv/episode/2832833/
 
  --Steve
 
  On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
 
   if sites like
   network2 are opt-in now, then I suppose it doesnt amtter so  
 much if
   they dont show creative commons feed info?
 
  --
  Steve Garfield
  http://SteveGarfield.com
 


 



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[videoblogging] new videoblog: Karaoke DeathMatch 100 (AKA KDM100)

2007-04-15 Thread T . Whid
Hi Videobloggers,

Some of you may know me for my work with TVTonic, but I'm also a bit of an
artist and have been active with the net art scene since 1997. I work with a
collaborator and we call ourselves MTAA (more info: http://mtaa.net).

We're very happy to announce that our new piece, Karaoke DeathMatch 100 (
http://www.mteww.com/kdm100/) is online. It's a videoblog with 2 new videos
posted everyday for the next 50 days. The videos are of my collaborator,
M.River, and myself in a karaoke competition that we taped in our studio. We
get more and more drunk as the piece progresses :)

We encourage to visit the web site daily, vote and discuss (there's also
feeds available).

Hype  more info below...

Best,

T.Whid

+++

Karaoke DeathMatch 100 (AKA KDM100)

New rounds daily from April 15 2007 - June 4, 2007!

on the web:
http://www.mteww.com/kdm100/

+++

hype:
Artist collaborative M.River  T.Whid Art Associates face off in the most
brutal performance art smack down of the new millennium… Karaoke Deathmatch
100! This alcohol-fueled blood feud features 50 rounds of sing-along fury
(taped live over an 8-hour period with hardly any pee breaks). No Carpenters
hit too cheesy, no heavy metal lyric too trite for these teleprompter
warriors to hurl in a battle to the end. Who will emerge victorious? Only
YOU can decide.

description:
MTAA's Karaoke DeathMatch 100 is a video blog performance that takes place
over 50 days starting April 15th, 2007 and ending June 4th, 2007. Each day,
a new round is posted pitting M.River  T.Whid against each other in drunken
karaoke competition. Visit the web site daily to view the sets of videos,
vote for your favorite and discuss the artists' performances. At the end of
the competition, the votes will decide who is the Karaoke DeathMatch 100
Champion.

The web version of KDM100 is an official selection of Visual 07. 7º Festival
De Creación Audiovisual Ciudad De Majadahonda (http://www.visual-ma.com/).
The gallery version of KDM100 premiered at the Leonart '05 (
http://www.leonding.at/leonart/05/) art festival in Leonding, Austria.

KDM100 was shot in May 2005 over 8 hours.

+ credits +

video production:
Bill Hallinan, Andre Sala and George Su

web production:
MTAA; developed using open-source software: Wordpress (http://wordpress.org),
X-Poll (http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/41118.html ) and embedthevideo (
http://embedthevideo.com/).

URLs:
web site: http://www.mteww.com/kdm100/
QuickTime feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/kdm100m4v
Windows Media feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/kdm100wmv

also available in iTunes...


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[videoblogging] Re: Our Apple TV Settings

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
Ahh I get you, the confusion is still about the term 'simple profile'.
Simple profile is, as I said before, an mpeg4 profile, not a h264 one.

Ive looked at the Apple specs, and I think you mean 'low complexity
baseline profile'...

*  H.264 video, up to 1.5 Mbps, 640 x 480, 30 frames per sec.,
Low-Complexity version of the Baseline Profile with AAC-LC audio up to
160 kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
* H.264 video, up to 768 kbps, 320 x 240, 30 frames per sec.,
Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 kbps, 48
Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
* MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 x 480, 30 frames per sec.,
Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio
in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats


So yeah, for 640x480 res stuff to work on the ipod, it either needs to
be either Low-Complexity baseline profile h264, or simple profile
mpeg4. I know how you can do simple profile in mpeg4 in quicktime, but
admit Im not sure how to activate low-complexity encoding using manual
h264 settings in quicktime. I'll see if I can find out, anybody know
if it can be done?

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chumley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Baseline works fine in h.264 320x240 for ipods, but baseline profile
 in 640x480 h.264 is not ipod compatable at any bitrate.  In order for
 it to be ipod compatable at 640x480 it has to be in the new Simple
 h.264 profile. 
 
 I've tried every bitrate I can think of in h.264 with baseline profile
 but none of them will transfer if its in 640x480.  Straight MP4 will
 work, but it looks terrible compared to h.264 and the file size is
 always larger.



Re: [videoblogging] Re: when posting a podcast wich format should I use?

2007-04-15 Thread Patrick Cook
Hi everyone:

On 4/14/07, Daryl Urig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With the sound track, a one minute movie 133 megs.
 I am using 16 bit color
 44 khz 16 bit sterio.
 It is a 640 wide so it can be used with apple tv.

 Is this a little large?

Yes.  The standard resolution for ANY videoblog should be 320x240.
Anything else and you're really making it rather difficult for those
of who watch via the PC.

Bottom line - Large screen resolution doesn't amount to squat.  It's
VIDEO QUALITY.  If the QUALITY of the video is crappy, then you can
make the screen resolution WALLSIZED and it'd still be crappy.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't the tutorials still
up on MeFeedia?

Hope this helps :D

 What quality should I use on sound track?
 What quality should I use on quicktime movie?
 How small should this file size be?

 thanks in advance.

 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Den 14.04.2007 kl. 19:06 skrev caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   intermingled somehow. I think quicktime uses an swf in the quicktime
   wrapper when making things clickable in the video. Or something.
 
  No.
 
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  URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 
 

 



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[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread valdezatron
Grace at http://www.fearlesscooking.tv used it in her new post. 

I like the built in episode guide. The text for the episode
description is a bit small (in terms of my parents being able to read
it!).  

It'd be nice if there was a clearer Commenting Link. I may have missed
it but I think now you have to click on Read More About This Post on Blip.

Maybe we'll see a shift from blog structured websites to more emphasis
on custom site design around a single embedded player. Variety would
be nice, the blog structure isn't really ideal for all.

Neato.

AV



http://www.aaronvaldez.com

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
 
 Some details here:
 
 http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows





Re: [videoblogging] New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Garfield
I put the new blip.tv player on my 'homepage' this morning.

http://www.stevegarfield.com/

I blogged about it here:

http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/04/blip-video-player.html

In  the blog post I say, vlogs are dead. ;-)

It's a joke, but also ironic since the reason for initially using  
blogs to post video in the first place was a technical one.

There wasn't any easy way to post video to the web.

Once I figured out that I could put video in a blog post, I got a  
very easy way to publish videos, along with the added benefits of  
that video being included in a blog post.

But that method, over time, introduced the problems of old videos  
getting lost in archives, and not having an easy way to browse  
through videos.

There are a lot of companies now bringing to the market ways to make  
it easy to surf videos and I'm glad that blip.tv has given me a way  
to allow people to browse my archives that are hosted with blip.tv.

--Steve

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Steve Watkins wrote:

 Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?

 Some details here:

 http://blog.blip.tv/blog/

 Cheers

 Steve Elbows




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Re: [videoblogging] New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Michael Verdi
Aaron  Steve - you bring up some good points. I do think options for people
are important and I do like the ability to look through an archive but the
price is that you loose all the other benefits of a blog - permalinks,
comments, context, choice of video size and formats. That player is really
built on the idea that your blip.tv blog is your blog. So it only shows and
links back to your blog posts on blip. Comments? They have to go on the blip
blog (as long as the viewer know to click through to the blip blog to leave
a comment). Plus you have to have the blip hot shows menu. That thing pulls
in stuff completely out of context that you have no control over. Of course
you do have control in that you certainly don't have to use the show player
at all. I just think the blog part of videoblogging is important and
desirable and I feel a little sad when people are so excited about dropping
it.

- Verdi

On 4/15/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I put the new blip.tv player on my 'homepage' this morning.

 http://www.stevegarfield.com/

 I blogged about it here:

 http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/04/blip-video-player.html

 In the blog post I say, vlogs are dead. ;-)

 It's a joke, but also ironic since the reason for initially using
 blogs to post video in the first place was a technical one.

 There wasn't any easy way to post video to the web.

 Once I figured out that I could put video in a blog post, I got a
 very easy way to publish videos, along with the added benefits of
 that video being included in a blog post.

 But that method, over time, introduced the problems of old videos
 getting lost in archives, and not having an easy way to browse
 through videos.

 There are a lot of companies now bringing to the market ways to make
 it easy to surf videos and I'm glad that blip.tv has given me a way
 to allow people to browse my archives that are hosted with blip.tv.

 --Steve

 On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Steve Watkins wrote:

  Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
 
  Some details here:
 
  http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
 
  Cheers
 
  Steve Elbows
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

 --
 Steve Garfield
 http://SteveGarfield.com

  




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[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread valdezatron
Verdilicious - 

Points well taken. I think the blog format isn't for everyone. I've
switched one of my three videoblogs back over to standard site because
I found I didn't need things like commenting, permalinks, or
categories. I use my blip acct to update RSS subscribers on this site.
My other two sites that include a big chunk of text and photos along
with video in their posts are meant for a blog format.

Like anything I think people should evaluate what they are doing, what
they want to do and find the best suitable format.  

(It would be nice to have a customizable player sort of like wordpress
widgets where you can pick and choose what elements are included on
your player.)


AV



--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aaron  Steve - you bring up some good points. I do think options
for people
 are important and I do like the ability to look through an archive
but the
 price is that you loose all the other benefits of a blog - permalinks,
 comments, context, choice of video size and formats. That player is
really
 built on the idea that your blip.tv blog is your blog. So it only
shows and
 links back to your blog posts on blip. Comments? They have to go on
the blip
 blog (as long as the viewer know to click through to the blip blog
to leave
 a comment). Plus you have to have the blip hot shows menu. That
thing pulls
 in stuff completely out of context that you have no control over. Of
course
 you do have control in that you certainly don't have to use the show
player
 at all. I just think the blog part of videoblogging is important and
 desirable and I feel a little sad when people are so excited about
dropping
 it.
 
 - Verdi
 
 On 4/15/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I put the new blip.tv player on my 'homepage' this morning.
 
  http://www.stevegarfield.com/
 
  I blogged about it here:
 
  http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/04/blip-video-player.html
 
  In the blog post I say, vlogs are dead. ;-)
 
  It's a joke, but also ironic since the reason for initially using
  blogs to post video in the first place was a technical one.
 
  There wasn't any easy way to post video to the web.
 
  Once I figured out that I could put video in a blog post, I got a
  very easy way to publish videos, along with the added benefits of
  that video being included in a blog post.
 
  But that method, over time, introduced the problems of old videos
  getting lost in archives, and not having an easy way to browse
  through videos.
 
  There are a lot of companies now bringing to the market ways to make
  it easy to surf videos and I'm glad that blip.tv has given me a way
  to allow people to browse my archives that are hosted with blip.tv.
 
  --Steve
 
  On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Steve Watkins wrote:
 
   Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
  
   Some details here:
  
   http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
  
   Cheers
  
   Steve Elbows
  
  
  
  
   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
 
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  http://SteveGarfield.com
 
   
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re:NOOOOOOO!!!!

2007-04-15 Thread doctor P
Kasey,

 

Please reconsider your comment on Canadian content.

Generally, American-style media, namely entertainment for its own sake, is
void of content even if the production is great.

This style of McMedia has spread worldwide like McDonald's junk food.

Globalization, while offering many benefits, also has the rather nasty
effect of erasing cultural distinction.

In the US itself the last bastion of content, PBS (TV) and NPR (radio), are
under attack.

Freedom does not mean no regulation.

Without regulation, schools would not be teaching literacy, art, history 
science and ignorance would be common.

(How free are you when ignorant?)

Without regulation, artists that are not popular yet skilled, imaginative,
and different, would have no venue for expression, let alone money to
continue their art.

I really think you may want to reconsider whether Canadian television
'sucks' because it is badly filmed, or whether it does not provide you with
the stimuli/numbness we all get when watching McMedia.

 

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RE: [videoblogging] New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Mike Hudack
Michael,

For some people the blog format is really important.  Cross-posting,
copy  paste and everything else we've built to support the blog format
aren't going away.  We're going to keep those features, and we're going
to keep improving them.  It's just that the blog format isn't right for
everyone. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Verdi
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] New blip.tv show player

Aaron  Steve - you bring up some good points. I do think options for
people
are important and I do like the ability to look through an archive but
the
price is that you loose all the other benefits of a blog - permalinks,
comments, context, choice of video size and formats. That player is
really
built on the idea that your blip.tv blog is your blog. So it only shows
and
links back to your blog posts on blip. Comments? They have to go on the
blip
blog (as long as the viewer know to click through to the blip blog to
leave
a comment). Plus you have to have the blip hot shows menu. That thing
pulls
in stuff completely out of context that you have no control over. Of
course
you do have control in that you certainly don't have to use the show
player
at all. I just think the blog part of videoblogging is important and
desirable and I feel a little sad when people are so excited about
dropping
it.

- Verdi

On 4/15/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I put the new blip.tv player on my 'homepage' this morning.

 http://www.stevegarfield.com/

 I blogged about it here:

 http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/04/blip-video-player.html

 In the blog post I say, vlogs are dead. ;-)

 It's a joke, but also ironic since the reason for initially using
 blogs to post video in the first place was a technical one.

 There wasn't any easy way to post video to the web.

 Once I figured out that I could put video in a blog post, I got a
 very easy way to publish videos, along with the added benefits of
 that video being included in a blog post.

 But that method, over time, introduced the problems of old videos
 getting lost in archives, and not having an easy way to browse
 through videos.

 There are a lot of companies now bringing to the market ways to make
 it easy to surf videos and I'm glad that blip.tv has given me a way
 to allow people to browse my archives that are hosted with blip.tv.

 --Steve

 On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Steve Watkins wrote:

  Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
 
  Some details here:
 
  http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
 
  Cheers
 
  Steve Elbows
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

 --
 Steve Garfield
 http://SteveGarfield.com

  




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[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
Offering both makes a lot of sense to me. I dream of this stuff being
pushed to the extreme and for it to be possible for a blog like
experience to be completely available from within a flash player.
Complexities quickly arise when the people providing the player are
hosting your videos, but are not responsible for the rest of your
blog, it leads to an understandable focus on the video hosting page
rather than your blog page. This may not be considered a probem
because the expectation may be that you embed their player in your
site, and your site provides all the other bloggy stuff you want. But
 this doesnt cover scenarios where our show player may be embedded on
another site or used as a widget. 

I see the guide button is optional, and its easy to rebrand the player
so that its got your own site in the bottom right hand corner, which
is a clickable link pointing to the URL of your choice.

Id love to see the creative commons stuff thats been requested in the
past, be rolled out into this show player in the future, whether it be
through a little cc icon on the bottom bar of the player, or the
inclusion of this info in the popup 'about this episode' tab.

I agree about the font size, hmm this stuff starts to get a bit
tricky, a big decision to break away from the player being 320x240. I
see that Veoh's player is rather large now, but this makes it look
quite good and leaves more room for additional info overlays to be
displayed in a larger font. Some other services have really wide
players with separate episode bars to one side of the video.

Personally Im fascinated by the idea of a flash player for wordpress
that can display the entire blog, text video etc, in the flash player.
I was looking at WPF/E but I think I'll ignore that technology for
now, and go buymyself a copy of flash and join the fun.

Cheers

Steve Elbows 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael,
 
 For some people the blog format is really important.  Cross-posting,
 copy  paste and everything else we've built to support the blog format
 aren't going away.  We're going to keep those features, and we're going
 to keep improving them.  It's just that the blog format isn't right for
 everyone. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Verdi
 Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] New blip.tv show player
 
 Aaron  Steve - you bring up some good points. I do think options for
 people
 are important and I do like the ability to look through an archive but
 the
 price is that you loose all the other benefits of a blog - permalinks,
 comments, context, choice of video size and formats. That player is
 really
 built on the idea that your blip.tv blog is your blog. So it only shows
 and
 links back to your blog posts on blip. Comments? They have to go on the
 blip
 blog (as long as the viewer know to click through to the blip blog to
 leave
 a comment). Plus you have to have the blip hot shows menu. That thing
 pulls
 in stuff completely out of context that you have no control over. Of
 course
 you do have control in that you certainly don't have to use the show
 player
 at all. I just think the blog part of videoblogging is important and
 desirable and I feel a little sad when people are so excited about
 dropping
 it.
 
 - Verdi
 
 On 4/15/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I put the new blip.tv player on my 'homepage' this morning.
 
  http://www.stevegarfield.com/
 
  I blogged about it here:
 
  http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/04/blip-video-player.html
 
  In the blog post I say, vlogs are dead. ;-)
 
  It's a joke, but also ironic since the reason for initially using
  blogs to post video in the first place was a technical one.
 
  There wasn't any easy way to post video to the web.
 
  Once I figured out that I could put video in a blog post, I got a
  very easy way to publish videos, along with the added benefits of
  that video being included in a blog post.
 
  But that method, over time, introduced the problems of old videos
  getting lost in archives, and not having an easy way to browse
  through videos.
 
  There are a lot of companies now bringing to the market ways to make
  it easy to surf videos and I'm glad that blip.tv has given me a way
  to allow people to browse my archives that are hosted with blip.tv.
 
  --Steve
 
  On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Steve Watkins wrote:
 
   Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
  
   Some details here:
  
   http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
  
   Cheers
  
   Steve Elbows
  
  
  
  
   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
 
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  http://SteveGarfield.com
 
   
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Enric
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
 
 Some details here:
 
 http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows


I think this is probably one of the most important examples of where
video is headed:  the containment of all information in the video
container.  Containing descriptive text, links, comments, etc.  Video
travels outside the website to mobile devices, internet TVs, etc.  It
needs to contain all it's information along the way and this feature
shows this capability.

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com




[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread johnleeke
The customizable branding is terrific!

John



Re: [videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread joshpaul
Yes, metadata is key. There are already hooks available, it just seems that
the vast majority of people aren't using them. In other words, the major
video containers provide methods to embed metadata, so that it travels with
the file itself.

Maybe this is something the video vertigo team would be willing to tackle? (
i.e. key/value pairs)

On 4/15/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
 
  Some details here:
 
  http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
 
  Cheers
 
  Steve Elbows
 

 I think this is probably one of the most important examples of where
 video is headed: the containment of all information in the video
 container. Containing descriptive text, links, comments, etc. Video
 travels outside the website to mobile devices, internet TVs, etc. It
 needs to contain all it's information along the way and this feature
 shows this capability.

 -- Enric
 -==-
 http://cirne.com

  




-- 
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o: 818-237-5200
c: 818-667-0900
w: joshpaul.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Re:NOOOOOOO!!!!

2007-04-15 Thread Rupert
Doctor P,
I realise your comments were directed at Casey,

but my own 2 cents:

Your intentions are right in combating what you see as McMedia,

but personally I find it hard to believe that geographically based  
programming quotas lead to better quality.

i don't want to get into a whole Positive Discrimination discussion  
here.  Oh, hell, I guess it's impossible not to.

but i don't think you can really conflate all the issues that you've  
mentioned.  makes for a nice emotive argument to say 'without  
regulation, schools would not be teaching xxx', but this is a  
different argument.

i don't think many people think that all regulation is bad.  it's  
part of our system of checks and balances to preserve our freedoms  
and rights and quality of life.  but it *can* get out of control, and  
needs itself to be checked.

different types of regulations come with their own areas of concern.

there are specific problems - both practical and ethical - that arise  
from regulating broadcasting, information and the internet according  
to state boundaries.

to regulate for quality (however one does that) can be a good thing,  
and in the UK those who receive public funds (BBC and others) are  
judged by quality and public service standards, as well as having to  
fulfil a UK production quota.

one of the joys of internet video is that the production values and  
distribution methods mean that niches can be served in a way that  
they can't be in MSM.  so regulating it with the intention of de- 
Americanizing and improving quality is not only unnecessary, it's  
potentially counterproductive, putting restrictions on niche producers.

Finally, I don't know if I agree with your characterisation of most  
American content as namely entertainment for its own sake, is
void of content even if the production is great.  I've seen a lot of  
TV from around the world, including Canadian TV, and I think that the  
main bulk of TV *anywhere* fits your description.   Including the  
UK.  Trash TV in the UK is as bad as trash TV in America, Italy,  
Japan - they're all crazy and inane, and make up 95% of all programs,  
probably.

The important area for judgement of quality IMO is in the high  
quality programming.   UK TV is considered some of the best quality  
TV in the world.  We have some factual programming that's great (it's  
being eroded) but I am hard pushed to think of a UK drama or comedy  
that is as inventive as complex as the big American exports -  
Sopranos, Seinfeld, Sex  City, West Wing, going back to Twin Peaks  
and beyond.  We make great period dramas.  Occasionally.  But they're  
pretty filmmaking-by-numbers.  Good American TV is the best in the  
world, I think.

These American shows won't get shown at primetime on the main 2  
British networks, largely I think because of the UK regulations.   
They would blow most UK shows out of the water, and so because we  
don't have to compete, we don't rise to the challenge.   So to  
restrict programming in this way can actually be anticompetitive and  
patronising.

Anyway, that's more than 2 cents.  And it's probably all bullshit.   
But it's my instinctive reaction.

Rupert
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http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/


On 15 Apr 2007, at 18:04, doctor P wrote:

Kasey,

Please reconsider your comment on Canadian content.

Generally, American-style media, namely entertainment for its own  
sake, is
void of content even if the production is great.

This style of McMedia has spread worldwide like McDonald's junk food.

Globalization, while offering many benefits, also has the rather nasty
effect of erasing cultural distinction.

In the US itself the last bastion of content, PBS (TV) and NPR  
(radio), are
under attack.

Freedom does not mean no regulation.

Without regulation, schools would not be teaching literacy, art,  
history 
science and ignorance would be common.

(How free are you when ignorant?)

Without regulation, artists that are not popular yet skilled,  
imaginative,
and different, would have no venue for expression, let alone money to
continue their art.

I really think you may want to reconsider whether Canadian television
'sucks' because it is badly filmed, or whether it does not provide  
you with
the stimuli/numbness we all get when watching McMedia.

Doc P

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[videoblogging] Re:NOOOOOOO!!!!

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
Agree. The original fear these sorts of regulations were designed to
guard against, is that American companies would end up owning all the
tv networks, and wouldnt bother making any local programming. Whereas
if any media monopolies appear on the net, its less likely as a result
of them strangulating the competition, but perhaps viewers choosing to
go to that site. 

I think if they do decide to act, it will be mostly through trying to
provide stuff to give their own domestic internet video companies a
leg up. And at worst they could dictate what %age of content Canadian
internet video companies host  promote. 

And oops I used even more extreme emotive example of why regulation
sometimes needed, in a previous post I mentioned kids up chimneys. 

I boradly agree withyou about the UK stuff, although I think that
started to change long before the internet, getting a few more
channels has opened the floodgates, and there have been some US shows
like 'Lost' that have been very heavily promoted. Didnt the BBC show
24 for a few seasons?

Yeah we sure do create out fair share of trash TV in the UK, US
citizens are probably aware of this as I believe Benny Hill was on of
our stronger exports to that part of the world! Some of my favorite TV
shows have been American, but I disagree with you about British
comedy, which hasnt been as hot in the last few years but sometimes
creates interesting stuff ont he surreal side of the spectrum. No idea
how well any of it exports, The Office was the last big export I know
of but it was remade for the American audience, I dont want to see
that version. Has Extras or things like The Mighty Boosh made it over
the Atlantic? Id never like to guess what comedy translates to
different cultures, was funny seeing Borat in action Stateside :)

Id bet heavily that if regulation is kept at bay for years, then a
trigger for it eventually ariving would be once net video enters a
mature phase where it is possible that entrenched service monopolies
could exist, and government will decide it has to act to 'give the
consumer choice'. The EU kicking Microsofts ass could be the EU
spanking youtube 10 years down the line, who knows.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doctor P,
 I realise your comments were directed at Casey,
 
 but my own 2 cents:
 
 Your intentions are right in combating what you see as McMedia,
 
 but personally I find it hard to believe that geographically based  
 programming quotas lead to better quality.
 
 i don't want to get into a whole Positive Discrimination discussion  
 here.  Oh, hell, I guess it's impossible not to.
 
 but i don't think you can really conflate all the issues that you've  
 mentioned.  makes for a nice emotive argument to say 'without  
 regulation, schools would not be teaching xxx', but this is a  
 different argument.
 
 i don't think many people think that all regulation is bad.  it's  
 part of our system of checks and balances to preserve our freedoms  
 and rights and quality of life.  but it *can* get out of control, and  
 needs itself to be checked.
 
 different types of regulations come with their own areas of concern.
 
 there are specific problems - both practical and ethical - that arise  
 from regulating broadcasting, information and the internet according  
 to state boundaries.
 
 to regulate for quality (however one does that) can be a good thing,  
 and in the UK those who receive public funds (BBC and others) are  
 judged by quality and public service standards, as well as having to  
 fulfil a UK production quota.
 
 one of the joys of internet video is that the production values and  
 distribution methods mean that niches can be served in a way that  
 they can't be in MSM.  so regulating it with the intention of de- 
 Americanizing and improving quality is not only unnecessary, it's  
 potentially counterproductive, putting restrictions on niche producers.
 
 Finally, I don't know if I agree with your characterisation of most  
 American content as namely entertainment for its own sake, is
 void of content even if the production is great.  I've seen a lot of  
 TV from around the world, including Canadian TV, and I think that the  
 main bulk of TV *anywhere* fits your description.   Including the  
 UK.  Trash TV in the UK is as bad as trash TV in America, Italy,  
 Japan - they're all crazy and inane, and make up 95% of all programs,  
 probably.
 
 The important area for judgement of quality IMO is in the high  
 quality programming.   UK TV is considered some of the best quality  
 TV in the world.  We have some factual programming that's great (it's  
 being eroded) but I am hard pushed to think of a UK drama or comedy  
 that is as inventive as complex as the big American exports -  
 Sopranos, Seinfeld, Sex  City, West Wing, going back to Twin Peaks  
 and beyond.  We make great period dramas.  Occasionally.  But they're  
 pretty filmmaking-by-numbers.  Good 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Rupert
There are a lot of these players coming out now.

If it were possible to create permalinks so that a link would take  
you to the site AND make the player play a certain episode, that'd be  
perfect.

Crowdabout.us have recently released a similar large Show player - 2  
weeks ago - and allowed anonymous commenting without logging into  
their site (which you had to do before).  So you and your viewers can  
use their commenting and posting system, putting information and  
conversations at specific points along the timeline of your videos  
(with great RSS).  I strongly advise you to check it out.  It runs  
straight off your Blip RSS - they just pull in your flv files from  
Blip and then allow their commenting.

At the moment, though, I want people to be able to link to specific  
episodes, not just watch the latest by default.

I wrote to Crowdabout.us and asked them if they could produce another  
player, which allowed specific episodes to be played within  
individual permalinked blog posts.  I hope they're going to do it.   
If they do, I will switch straightaway to using their players.  The  
show player on the Home page and the individual players within the  
individual post pages.

This kind of functionality is moving towards what Steve Elbows has  
talked about here for a long time and which I am always very excited  
about the possibility of - everything contained within one player - a  
multipurpose blog tool.

The idea of making the videos themselves richer with easy custom  
hyperlinks and hotspots is also something I salivate over.

I think people will start to build all this stuff in as the more  
advanced players get more popular.  Wish it would all happen right  
now, though.  Technologically, I can't see any reason why it  
shouldn't.  Surely just a question of incentive, energy and  
inspiration.  Maybe Elbows will come up with some blueprints - now  
he's overcome his Flashphobia ;)  If I can help at all, even just as  
a sounding board, let me know.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/


On 15 Apr 2007, at 19:45, joshpaul wrote:

Yes, metadata is key. There are already hooks available, it just  
seems that
the vast majority of people aren't using them. In other words, the major
video containers provide methods to embed metadata, so that it  
travels with
the file itself.

Maybe this is something the video vertigo team would be willing to  
tackle? (
i.e. key/value pairs)

On 4/15/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 
40yahoogroups.com,
  Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
  
   Some details here:
  
   http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
  
   Cheers
  
   Steve Elbows
  
 
  I think this is probably one of the most important examples of where
  video is headed: the containment of all information in the video
  container. Containing descriptive text, links, comments, etc. Video
  travels outside the website to mobile devices, internet TVs, etc. It
  needs to contain all it's information along the way and this feature
  shows this capability.
 
  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com
 
 
 

-- 
joshpaul

o: 818-237-5200
c: 818-667-0900
w: joshpaul.com

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[videoblogging] Re: when posting a podcast wich format should I use? _apple?

2007-04-15 Thread Daryl Urig
I am confused. Can someone read my setting's below in previous question osted?

I am told apple tv is: 640 x 480, 30 frames per sec.,

and I am also told this:

Yes. The standard resolution for ANY videoblog should be 320x240.
Anything else and you're really making it rather difficult for those
of who watch via the PC.

Can someone make this clear for me? Also see question below.

Thanks.




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone:
 
 On 4/14/07, Daryl Urig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  With the sound track, a one minute movie 133 megs.
  I am using 16 bit color
  44 khz 16 bit sterio.
  It is a 640 wide so it can be used with apple tv.
 
  Is this a little large?
 
 Yes.  The standard resolution for ANY videoblog should be 320x240.
 Anything else and you're really making it rather difficult for those
 of who watch via the PC.
 
 Bottom line - Large screen resolution doesn't amount to squat.  It's
 VIDEO QUALITY.  If the QUALITY of the video is crappy, then you can
 make the screen resolution WALLSIZED and it'd still be crappy.
 
 Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't the tutorials still
 up on MeFeedia?
 
 Hope this helps :D
 
  What quality should I use on sound track?
  What quality should I use on quicktime movie?
  How small should this file size be?
 
  thanks in advance.
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen 
  solitude@
  wrote:
  
   Den 14.04.2007 kl. 19:06 skrev caroosky carter@:
  
intermingled somehow. I think quicktime uses an swf in the quicktime
wrapper when making things clickable in the video. Or something.
  
   No.
  
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   URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 
  
 
  
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Enric
May be worth bringing up at the Microformats for Media Web 2.0 Expo
Open session lead by Mary Hodder (Tue 2 pm.)  I'll mention it.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, joshpaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, metadata is key. There are already hooks available, it just
seems that
 the vast majority of people aren't using them. In other words, the major
 video containers provide methods to embed metadata, so that it
travels with
 the file itself.
 
 Maybe this is something the video vertigo team would be willing to
tackle? (
 i.e. key/value pairs)
 
 On 4/15/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Steve Watkins steve@ wrote:
  
   Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
  
   Some details here:
  
   http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
  
   Cheers
  
   Steve Elbows
  
 
  I think this is probably one of the most important examples of where
  video is headed: the containment of all information in the video
  container. Containing descriptive text, links, comments, etc. Video
  travels outside the website to mobile devices, internet TVs, etc. It
  needs to contain all it's information along the way and this feature
  shows this capability.
 
  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
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 o: 818-237-5200
 c: 818-667-0900
 w: joshpaul.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
I reckon part of the cause of that is that many implementations of
embedded metadata were done many years before video took off on the
net. So there are cobwebs all over the place, no buzz, no hoards of
would-be web 2 billionaries creating new versions of the tools, and
largely no recognition by the original implementers (eg Apple with
quicktime) that they could dig up these slumbering efforts and merge
them with the new generation of net video  syndication  smil and
whatever.

It wouldnt be easy, theres a bit too much overlap, and things arent
joined up enough. Its a pain for the user to enter the metadata into
the media with the poor GUI things like quicktime give to do it. Then
no site/software bothers reading this embedded information, or your
video gets transcoded into another format and its lost. SMIL could be
used and could be embedded in a mov, but then pure mp4 is mor
compatible with a range of devices. And quicktime supports SMIL 1 and
real player on my phone supports SMIL 2. Mess, mess, mess.

So I gave up on that sort of thing, and look to flash to provide a
glossy wrapper that delivers the results that would ideally be
possible using 1 technology  embedded metadata, but in reality are
coming from all sorts of different sources and are mashed together nicely.

Cheers

Steve Elbows 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, joshpaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, metadata is key. There are already hooks available, it just
seems that
 the vast majority of people aren't using them. In other words, the major
 video containers provide methods to embed metadata, so that it
travels with
 the file itself.
 
 Maybe this is something the video vertigo team would be willing to
tackle? (
 i.e. key/value pairs)
 
 On 4/15/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Steve Watkins steve@ wrote:
  
   Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
  
   Some details here:
  
   http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
  
   Cheers
  
   Steve Elbows
  
 
  I think this is probably one of the most important examples of where
  video is headed: the containment of all information in the video
  container. Containing descriptive text, links, comments, etc. Video
  travels outside the website to mobile devices, internet TVs, etc. It
  needs to contain all it's information along the way and this feature
  shows this capability.
 
  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
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 c: 818-667-0900
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Re: [videoblogging] Re:NOOOOOOO!!!!

2007-04-15 Thread Rupert
Yeah, Steve.  Stupid of me to say Comedy as well as Drama.  Drama is  
poor generally but we have good comedy, still.

Office, Boosh, Spaced, Black Books, Peter Kay, have been some of the  
best TV I've seen... It is interesting, though, that they all last  
very few episodes compared to US series.  And most of them are on the  
secondary channels, getting very low audience share until quite late  
on, if ever.


My point about US drama was not that it's not here and not hyped - it  
is - my point was just that it's not allowed on the big channels.   
Lost was shown on Channel 4, which always has a low audience share  
and is allowed more US exports under its license.  Because they  
couldn't afford to keep it, season 3 has gone to Murdoch on Sky 1,  
which is unregulated and also has a low audience share.  Ditto 24,  
which was originally shown on minority channel BBC 2.  With 2-3  
million viewers.  (I got half of that for my short documentaries  
about real women called Bridget Jones!)  And I remember it was the  
same with Twin Peaks 10 years ago - they just aren't allowed to  
compete with the (IMO) lower quality UK drama fare that's pumped out  
on the big channels.  Thus we don't have to raise our game.  Anyway.

Rupert
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On 15 Apr 2007, at 20:24, Steve Watkins wrote:

Agree. The original fear these sorts of regulations were designed to
guard against, is that American companies would end up owning all the
tv networks, and wouldnt bother making any local programming. Whereas
if any media monopolies appear on the net, its less likely as a result
of them strangulating the competition, but perhaps viewers choosing to
go to that site.

I think if they do decide to act, it will be mostly through trying to
provide stuff to give their own domestic internet video companies a
leg up. And at worst they could dictate what %age of content Canadian
internet video companies host  promote.

And oops I used even more extreme emotive example of why regulation
sometimes needed, in a previous post I mentioned kids up chimneys.

I boradly agree withyou about the UK stuff, although I think that
started to change long before the internet, getting a few more
channels has opened the floodgates, and there have been some US shows
like 'Lost' that have been very heavily promoted. Didnt the BBC show
24 for a few seasons?

Yeah we sure do create out fair share of trash TV in the UK, US
citizens are probably aware of this as I believe Benny Hill was on of
our stronger exports to that part of the world! Some of my favorite TV
shows have been American, but I disagree with you about British
comedy, which hasnt been as hot in the last few years but sometimes
creates interesting stuff ont he surreal side of the spectrum. No idea
how well any of it exports, The Office was the last big export I know
of but it was remade for the American audience, I dont want to see
that version. Has Extras or things like The Mighty Boosh made it over
the Atlantic? Id never like to guess what comedy translates to
different cultures, was funny seeing Borat in action Stateside :)

Id bet heavily that if regulation is kept at bay for years, then a
trigger for it eventually ariving would be once net video enters a
mature phase where it is possible that entrenched service monopolies
could exist, and government will decide it has to act to 'give the
consumer choice'. The EU kicking Microsofts ass could be the EU
spanking youtube 10 years down the line, who knows.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Doctor P,
  I realise your comments were directed at Casey,
 
  but my own 2 cents:
 
  Your intentions are right in combating what you see as McMedia,
 
  but personally I find it hard to believe that geographically based
  programming quotas lead to better quality.
 
  i don't want to get into a whole Positive Discrimination discussion
  here. Oh, hell, I guess it's impossible not to.
 
  but i don't think you can really conflate all the issues that you've
  mentioned. makes for a nice emotive argument to say 'without
  regulation, schools would not be teaching xxx', but this is a
  different argument.
 
  i don't think many people think that all regulation is bad. it's
  part of our system of checks and balances to preserve our freedoms
  and rights and quality of life. but it *can* get out of control, and
  needs itself to be checked.
 
  different types of regulations come with their own areas of concern.
 
  there are specific problems - both practical and ethical - that arise
  from regulating broadcasting, information and the internet according
  to state boundaries.
 
  to regulate for quality (however one does that) can be a good thing,
  and in the UK those who receive public funds (BBC and others) are
  judged by quality and public service standards, as well as having to
  fulfil a UK 

[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
Im glad crowdabout have implemented a fully embeddable version of
their exciting features. I considered using them for my videoblogweek
stuff, but I rushed the hosting/formats side of things, and personally
I feel like crowdabouts sucess might be hampered by their choice of
layout of their features visually. Id like a smaller version of thee
player where the stuff that currently opens in windows at the side, is
overlayed on top of the video. And a smaller timeline thats still just
as functional because it can be zoomed in or out when theres a lot of
conversation markers on a clip. But thats would take quite a bit of
work to achieve all that Im sure. I am a huge fan of the concept,
thats for sure, just not the GUI.

Dont give me too much credit for talking about 'whole blog in a
player' stuff for ages, its only been a month or so I guess. Anyway it
does seem to be happening, but its unclear how much of the blog will
make it into mainstream implementations of this sort of thing, so it
would be nice if some vloggers who care about the blog part could help
add momentum for this stuff. Im up for it, I enjoyed vlogging the
other week and Im tired of listening to myself waffle and never do
anything, . But right now when I go to get Flash I seem to be stuck
ina bad moment before the new version of flash is released. Doh, can I
get a trial of the previous version?

Meanwhile on the radar of whats out there in terms of code people can
download and install themselves, some fine efforts such as vPiP seem
rather more closed when it comes to the flash player, which is fair
enough, thats up to them. So Ive een seeign what else is out ther,
this looks promising:

http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=Flash_Video_Player

This wordpress plugin version of that is currently floating my boat,
off to have a look at it in more detail:

http://alexrabe.boelinger.com/?page_id=20

Cheers

Steve Elbows
 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There are a lot of these players coming out now.
 
 If it were possible to create permalinks so that a link would take  
 you to the site AND make the player play a certain episode, that'd be  
 perfect.
 
 Crowdabout.us have recently released a similar large Show player - 2  
 weeks ago - and allowed anonymous commenting without logging into  
 their site (which you had to do before).  So you and your viewers can  
 use their commenting and posting system, putting information and  
 conversations at specific points along the timeline of your videos  
 (with great RSS).  I strongly advise you to check it out.  It runs  
 straight off your Blip RSS - they just pull in your flv files from  
 Blip and then allow their commenting.
 
 At the moment, though, I want people to be able to link to specific  
 episodes, not just watch the latest by default.
 
 I wrote to Crowdabout.us and asked them if they could produce another  
 player, which allowed specific episodes to be played within  
 individual permalinked blog posts.  I hope they're going to do it.   
 If they do, I will switch straightaway to using their players.  The  
 show player on the Home page and the individual players within the  
 individual post pages.
 
 This kind of functionality is moving towards what Steve Elbows has  
 talked about here for a long time and which I am always very excited  
 about the possibility of - everything contained within one player - a  
 multipurpose blog tool.
 
 The idea of making the videos themselves richer with easy custom  
 hyperlinks and hotspots is also something I salivate over.
 
 I think people will start to build all this stuff in as the more  
 advanced players get more popular.  Wish it would all happen right  
 now, though.  Technologically, I can't see any reason why it  
 shouldn't.  Surely just a question of incentive, energy and  
 inspiration.  Maybe Elbows will come up with some blueprints - now  
 he's overcome his Flashphobia ;)  If I can help at all, even just as  
 a sounding board, let me know.
 
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
 http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
 
 
 On 15 Apr 2007, at 19:45, joshpaul wrote:
 
 Yes, metadata is key. There are already hooks available, it just  
 seems that
 the vast majority of people aren't using them. In other words, the major
 video containers provide methods to embed metadata, so that it  
 travels with
 the file itself.
 
 Maybe this is something the video vertigo team would be willing to  
 tackle? (
 i.e. key/value pairs)
 
 On 4/15/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 
 40yahoogroups.com,
   Steve Watkins steve@ wrote:
   
Sounds quite interesting, anybody tried it yet?
   
Some details here:
   
http://blog.blip.tv/blog/
   
Cheers
   
Steve Elbows
   
  
   I think this is probably one of the most important examples of where
   video is headed: the containment of all information 

[videoblogging] Re:NOOOOOOO!!!!

2007-04-15 Thread Enric
It's not clear why this is an argument.  The internet is a different
topography than broadcast TV without the one to many limitation that
creates relatively fixed gatekeepers.  It is a node relationship
closer to the telephone network as an antedecant.  Anyone at any time
can setup a videoblog on any subject.  They can get as large an
audience as are interested.  Without fixed gatekeepers there is no
need to regulate content that broadcast TV network programmers would
not show.

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Agree. The original fear these sorts of regulations were designed to
 guard against, is that American companies would end up owning all the
 tv networks, and wouldnt bother making any local programming. Whereas
 if any media monopolies appear on the net, its less likely as a result
 of them strangulating the competition, but perhaps viewers choosing to
 go to that site. 
 
 I think if they do decide to act, it will be mostly through trying to
 provide stuff to give their own domestic internet video companies a
 leg up. And at worst they could dictate what %age of content Canadian
 internet video companies host  promote. 
 
 And oops I used even more extreme emotive example of why regulation
 sometimes needed, in a previous post I mentioned kids up chimneys. 
 
 I boradly agree withyou about the UK stuff, although I think that
 started to change long before the internet, getting a few more
 channels has opened the floodgates, and there have been some US shows
 like 'Lost' that have been very heavily promoted. Didnt the BBC show
 24 for a few seasons?
 
 Yeah we sure do create out fair share of trash TV in the UK, US
 citizens are probably aware of this as I believe Benny Hill was on of
 our stronger exports to that part of the world! Some of my favorite TV
 shows have been American, but I disagree with you about British
 comedy, which hasnt been as hot in the last few years but sometimes
 creates interesting stuff ont he surreal side of the spectrum. No idea
 how well any of it exports, The Office was the last big export I know
 of but it was remade for the American audience, I dont want to see
 that version. Has Extras or things like The Mighty Boosh made it over
 the Atlantic? Id never like to guess what comedy translates to
 different cultures, was funny seeing Borat in action Stateside :)
 
 Id bet heavily that if regulation is kept at bay for years, then a
 trigger for it eventually ariving would be once net video enters a
 mature phase where it is possible that entrenched service monopolies
 could exist, and government will decide it has to act to 'give the
 consumer choice'. The EU kicking Microsofts ass could be the EU
 spanking youtube 10 years down the line, who knows.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
 
  Doctor P,
  I realise your comments were directed at Casey,
  
  but my own 2 cents:
  
  Your intentions are right in combating what you see as McMedia,
  
  but personally I find it hard to believe that geographically based  
  programming quotas lead to better quality.
  
  i don't want to get into a whole Positive Discrimination discussion  
  here.  Oh, hell, I guess it's impossible not to.
  
  but i don't think you can really conflate all the issues that you've  
  mentioned.  makes for a nice emotive argument to say 'without  
  regulation, schools would not be teaching xxx', but this is a  
  different argument.
  
  i don't think many people think that all regulation is bad.  it's  
  part of our system of checks and balances to preserve our freedoms  
  and rights and quality of life.  but it *can* get out of control,
and  
  needs itself to be checked.
  
  different types of regulations come with their own areas of concern.
  
  there are specific problems - both practical and ethical - that
arise  
  from regulating broadcasting, information and the internet according  
  to state boundaries.
  
  to regulate for quality (however one does that) can be a good thing,  
  and in the UK those who receive public funds (BBC and others) are  
  judged by quality and public service standards, as well as having to  
  fulfil a UK production quota.
  
  one of the joys of internet video is that the production values and  
  distribution methods mean that niches can be served in a way that  
  they can't be in MSM.  so regulating it with the intention of de- 
  Americanizing and improving quality is not only unnecessary, it's  
  potentially counterproductive, putting restrictions on niche
producers.
  
  Finally, I don't know if I agree with your characterisation of most  
  American content as namely entertainment for its own sake, is
  void of content even if the production is great.  I've seen a lot
of  
  TV from around the world, including Canadian TV, and I think that
the  
  main bulk of TV *anywhere* fits your description.   Including 

[videoblogging] Re: Tilzy.tv Launch!

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
I was extremely pleased to see a guide that pays more than just
lipservice to the idea that it really is a guide, a site that takes
time to write reviews about the material.

Ive long bitched about those who cut corners on such things, so three
cheers to those who've done the job properly - hip hip hooray :)

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, eric gunnar rochow [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 they did a nice write up on gardenfork.tv on their site. most places  
 require you to do it yourself.
 
 eric gunnar rochow
 
 http://gardenfork.tvgardenfork iTunes video podcast
 an internet video show -  iTunes podcast about cooking, gardening,  
 and other stuff.
 
 http://ericrochow.com  web 2.0 blog
 
 http://www.choplogic.net   company site
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Im glad crowdabout have implemented a fully embeddable version of
 their exciting features. I considered using them for my videoblogweek
 stuff, but I rushed the hosting/formats side of things, and personally
 I feel like crowdabouts sucess might be hampered by their choice of
 layout of their features visually. Id like a smaller version of thee
 player where the stuff that currently opens in windows at the side, is
 overlayed on top of the video. And a smaller timeline thats still just
 as functional because it can be zoomed in or out when theres a lot of
 conversation markers on a clip. But thats would take quite a bit of
 work to achieve all that Im sure. I am a huge fan of the concept,
 thats for sure, just not the GUI.
 
 Dont give me too much credit for talking about 'whole blog in a
 player' stuff for ages, its only been a month or so I guess. Anyway it
 does seem to be happening, but its unclear how much of the blog will
 make it into mainstream implementations of this sort of thing, so it
 would be nice if some vloggers who care about the blog part could help
 add momentum for this stuff. Im up for it, I enjoyed vlogging the
 other week and Im tired of listening to myself waffle and never do
 anything, . But right now when I go to get Flash I seem to be stuck
 ina bad moment before the new version of flash is released. Doh, can I
 get a trial of the previous version?
 
 Meanwhile on the radar of whats out there in terms of code people can
 download and install themselves, some fine efforts such as vPiP seem
 rather more closed when it comes to the flash player, which is fair
 enough, thats up to them.

I plan to release an open version of the included flash flv player in
vPIP.  Right now it's under development for features I'm writing for
the cinegage site (not ready yet.)  Once I can package the flash flv
player so it has some commenting, cleaned up code and useable, I'll
release that version under an open license.  

BTW, You can use any flash flv player in vPIP including the one by
jeroenwijering.  See

http://vpip.org/home/playing-flash/

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com


 So Ive een seeign what else is out ther,
 this looks promising:
 
 http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=Flash_Video_Player
 
 This wordpress plugin version of that is currently floating my boat,
 off to have a look at it in more detail:
 
 http://alexrabe.boelinger.com/?page_id=20
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
  
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
 
  There are a lot of these players coming out now.
  
  If it were possible to create permalinks so that a link would take  
  you to the site AND make the player play a certain episode, that'd
be  
  perfect.
  
  Crowdabout.us have recently released a similar large Show player - 2  
  weeks ago - and allowed anonymous commenting without logging into  
  their site (which you had to do before).  So you and your viewers
can  
  use their commenting and posting system, putting information and  
  conversations at specific points along the timeline of your videos  
  (with great RSS).  I strongly advise you to check it out.  It runs  
  straight off your Blip RSS - they just pull in your flv files from  
  Blip and then allow their commenting.
  
  At the moment, though, I want people to be able to link to specific  
  episodes, not just watch the latest by default.
  
  I wrote to Crowdabout.us and asked them if they could produce
another  
  player, which allowed specific episodes to be played within  
  individual permalinked blog posts.  I hope they're going to do it.   
  If they do, I will switch straightaway to using their players.  The  
  show player on the Home page and the individual players within the  
  individual post pages.
  
  This kind of functionality is moving towards what Steve Elbows has  
  talked about here for a long time and which I am always very excited  
  about the possibility of - everything contained within one player
- a  
  multipurpose blog tool.
  
  The idea of making the videos themselves richer with easy custom  
  hyperlinks and hotspots is also something I salivate over.
  
  I think people will start to build all this stuff in as the more  
  advanced players get more popular.  Wish it would all happen right  
  now, though.  Technologically, I can't see any reason why it  
  shouldn't.  Surely just a question of incentive, energy and  
  inspiration.  Maybe Elbows will come up with some blueprints - now  
  he's overcome his Flashphobia ;)  If I can help at all, even just as  
  a sounding board, let me know.
  
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
  http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
  
  
  On 15 Apr 2007, at 19:45, joshpaul wrote:
  
  Yes, metadata is key. There are already hooks available, it just  
  seems that
  the vast majority of people aren't using them. In other words, 

[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
Thats brilliant news, cheers. vPIP is wonderful stuff, the flash
player being closed isnt exactly a big issue, I just got curious about
how everyone makes these things, and what efforts are out there that
are happy for others to build on top of them. I wouldnt want to do
anything that went against the spirit of what the creator intended
when releasing their stuff.

Could you explain if/what sort of use of SMIL your vPIP can do? Is it
passing SMIL along to play in quicktime or something else?

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I plan to release an open version of the included flash flv player in
 vPIP.  Right now it's under development for features I'm writing for
 the cinegage site (not ready yet.)  Once I can package the flash flv
 player so it has some commenting, cleaned up code and useable, I'll
 release that version under an open license.  
 
 BTW, You can use any flash flv player in vPIP including the one by
 jeroenwijering.  See
 
 http://vpip.org/home/playing-flash/
 
   -- Enric
   -==-
   http://cirne.com



[videoblogging] Re: when posting a podcast wich format should I use? _apple?

2007-04-15 Thread Gena
Ok, Let me take a shot at this.  You can have any size you want. If
you want to post postage size video that is fine. The following
pertains to vlogs, web video and video on the Internet.

Back in the day when more folks were on dial-up you had to balance
many factors such as the dimensions, file size, video resolution and
quality. I pulled out one of my old video books and these were the
suggested sizes in the past:

Delivery/Dimension/Frames Per Second/Audio
E-mail 160x120 10fps Mono 22.05kHz
Web video 240x180 12fps Stereo 22.05 kHz
CD-ROM 320x240 15fps Stereo 44.1kHz

If you were placing video on a web site circa 1999 the above would
have been fine. But technology has moved forward. 

In 2005 the recommended/suggested/used (pick one)dimension of video on
blogs was 320x240. Video placed on blogs/vlog at 320x240 best meet
those needs of the viewers and content producers. It is still used.
But it isn't the only way to do this.

It is now 2007. Times have changed. You still have to balance the
factors however more people are on high speed connections. There is
also the introduction of digital camcorders that can record in
different aspect ratios or recording dimensions. 

For example, 640x480 and 320x240 are in the 4:3 aspect ratio or
more square like video. Same shape as an Analog TV screen.

The newer digital camcorders have the ability to record 16:9 or more
rectangular, like the way it looks like when you view DVD movies on
analog TV sets.  Your Apple TV screen is in the 16:9 aspect ratio.

It is a matter of choice. Your choice on what will best serve the kind
of video you are delivering.

I'm really simplifying here folks so if the techies want to jump in
feel free. I just want to provide a conceptual understanding.

Over at Freevlog there are videos that might make it clear to you what
is going on. 

Ryanne has her favorite compression settings
http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/01/14/screencast-ryannes-favorite-compression-settings/

If you just want to output to the iPod format then view
http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/03/19/41-compress-for-the-web-imovie/

If you are on Windows check out Michael's example. Even if you are a
Mac person check it out.
http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/03/19/4-compress-for-the-web-windows-movie-maker/

Keep asking questions,

Gena

http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Daryl Urig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am confused. Can someone read my setting's below in previous
question osted?
 
 I am told apple tv is: 640 x 480, 30 frames per sec.,
 
 and I am also told this:
 
 Yes. The standard resolution for ANY videoblog should be 320x240.
 Anything else and you're really making it rather difficult for those
 of who watch via the PC.
 
 Can someone make this clear for me? Also see question below.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Cook
patsvideoblog@ wrote:
 
  Hi everyone:
  
  On 4/14/07, Daryl Urig daryl@ wrote:
  
   With the sound track, a one minute movie 133 megs.
   I am using 16 bit color
   44 khz 16 bit sterio.
   It is a 640 wide so it can be used with apple tv.
  
   Is this a little large?
  
  Yes.  The standard resolution for ANY videoblog should be 320x240.
  Anything else and you're really making it rather difficult for those
  of who watch via the PC.
  
  Bottom line - Large screen resolution doesn't amount to squat.  It's
  VIDEO QUALITY.  If the QUALITY of the video is crappy, then you can
  make the screen resolution WALLSIZED and it'd still be crappy.
  
  Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't the tutorials still
  up on MeFeedia?
  
  Hope this helps :D
  
   What quality should I use on sound track?
   What quality should I use on quicktime movie?
   How small should this file size be?
  
   thanks in advance.
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup
Pedersen solitude@
   wrote:
   
Den 14.04.2007 kl. 19:06 skrev caroosky carter@:
   
 intermingled somehow. I think quicktime uses an swf in the
quicktime
 wrapper when making things clickable in the video. Or something.
   
No.
   
--
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 
   
  
   
  
  
  
  -- 
  Pat Cook
  Denver, Colorado
  WEBSITES - AS MY WACKED OUT WORLD TURNS  -
http://pchamster.livejournal.com/
  PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/
  Pat's Health  Medical Wonders VideoCast -
  http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/
  MY LIVE CAM - http://patscam.camstreams.com/
  YouTube Channel - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/
  THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepatcookshow
 





[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thats brilliant news, cheers. vPIP is wonderful stuff, the flash
 player being closed isnt exactly a big issue, I just got curious about
 how everyone makes these things, and what efforts are out there that
 are happy for others to build on top of them. I wouldnt want to do
 anything that went against the spirit of what the creator intended
 when releasing their stuff.
 
 Could you explain if/what sort of use of SMIL your vPIP can do? Is it
 passing SMIL along to play in quicktime or something else?

Yes, there's basic support for SMIL in quicktime (passing SMIL along
should be the accurate description.)  I haven't done work in SMIL
myself, but setup support for SMIL in vPIP during debugging with
Michael Sullivan having vPIP with SMIL on vlogdir.com.  

In the vPIP package the file, InitSMIL.mov, gives SMIL activation support.

  -- Enric

 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric enric@ wrote:
 
  I plan to release an open version of the included flash flv player in
  vPIP.  Right now it's under development for features I'm writing for
  the cinegage site (not ready yet.)  Once I can package the flash flv
  player so it has some commenting, cleaned up code and useable, I'll
  release that version under an open license.  
  
  BTW, You can use any flash flv player in vPIP including the one by
  jeroenwijering.  See
  
  http://vpip.org/home/playing-flash/
  
-- Enric
-==-
http://cirne.com





[videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread caroosky
Hey Steve,
Thanks so much for giving us your perspective on what we're trying to
do.  I know we are on the same page in terms of where we are headed,
but it's always helpful to get more input from users.  And those
considering using.

 Im glad crowdabout have implemented a fully embeddable version of
 their exciting features. I considered using them for my videoblogweek
 stuff, but I rushed the hosting/formats side of things, and personally
 I feel like crowdabouts sucess might be hampered by their choice of
 layout of their features visually. Id like a smaller version of thee
 player where the stuff that currently opens in windows at the side, is
 overlayed on top of the video. And a smaller timeline thats still just
 as functional because it can be zoomed in or out when theres a lot of
 conversation markers on a clip. But thats would take quite a bit of
 work to achieve all that Im sure. I am a huge fan of the concept,
 thats for sure, just not the GUI.

This is an area where it's hard to get it right for everyone's use. 
I've been thinking about doing a contest, and letting everyone tell us
what they want the player to look like/operate from an interface
perspective.  What do you think?

Carter Harkins
http://crowdabout.us






[videoblogging] Re: when posting a podcast wich format should I use? _apple?

2007-04-15 Thread Daryl Urig
this is very helpful.

And I see we have choices because of our history.

But in the apple tv column, something made sence. If you keep your file to one 
size fits all, 
it will help your rating's verses, splitting it up with different versions for 
every different 
user.

So what version whould be truely optimal then, with this in mind? 

I am thinking qicktime, but i do not want to sway your thoughts, and size? 
Apple is 
confusing me on size?




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, Let me take a shot at this.  You can have any size you want. If
 you want to post postage size video that is fine. The following
 pertains to vlogs, web video and video on the Internet.
 
 Back in the day when more folks were on dial-up you had to balance
 many factors such as the dimensions, file size, video resolution and
 quality. I pulled out one of my old video books and these were the
 suggested sizes in the past:
 
 Delivery/Dimension/Frames Per Second/Audio
 E-mail 160x120 10fps Mono 22.05kHz
 Web video 240x180 12fps Stereo 22.05 kHz
 CD-ROM 320x240 15fps Stereo 44.1kHz
 
 If you were placing video on a web site circa 1999 the above would
 have been fine. But technology has moved forward. 
 
 In 2005 the recommended/suggested/used (pick one)dimension of video on
 blogs was 320x240. Video placed on blogs/vlog at 320x240 best meet
 those needs of the viewers and content producers. It is still used.
 But it isn't the only way to do this.
 
 It is now 2007. Times have changed. You still have to balance the
 factors however more people are on high speed connections. There is
 also the introduction of digital camcorders that can record in
 different aspect ratios or recording dimensions. 
 
 For example, 640x480 and 320x240 are in the 4:3 aspect ratio or
 more square like video. Same shape as an Analog TV screen.
 
 The newer digital camcorders have the ability to record 16:9 or more
 rectangular, like the way it looks like when you view DVD movies on
 analog TV sets.  Your Apple TV screen is in the 16:9 aspect ratio.
 
 It is a matter of choice. Your choice on what will best serve the kind
 of video you are delivering.
 
 I'm really simplifying here folks so if the techies want to jump in
 feel free. I just want to provide a conceptual understanding.
 
 Over at Freevlog there are videos that might make it clear to you what
 is going on. 
 
 Ryanne has her favorite compression settings
 http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/01/14/screencast-ryannes-favorite-
compression-settings/
 
 If you just want to output to the iPod format then view
 http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/03/19/41-compress-for-the-web-imovie/
 
 If you are on Windows check out Michael's example. Even if you are a
 Mac person check it out.
 http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/03/19/4-compress-for-the-web-windows-
movie-maker/
 
 Keep asking questions,
 
 Gena
 
 http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
 http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Daryl Urig daryl@ wrote:
 
  I am confused. Can someone read my setting's below in previous
 question osted?
  
  I am told apple tv is: 640 x 480, 30 frames per sec.,
  
  and I am also told this:
  
  Yes. The standard resolution for ANY videoblog should be 320x240.
  Anything else and you're really making it rather difficult for those
  of who watch via the PC.
  
  Can someone make this clear for me? Also see question below.
  
  Thanks.
  
  
  
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Cook
 patsvideoblog@ wrote:
  
   Hi everyone:
   
   On 4/14/07, Daryl Urig daryl@ wrote:
   
With the sound track, a one minute movie 133 megs.
I am using 16 bit color
44 khz 16 bit sterio.
It is a 640 wide so it can be used with apple tv.
   
Is this a little large?
   
   Yes.  The standard resolution for ANY videoblog should be 320x240.
   Anything else and you're really making it rather difficult for those
   of who watch via the PC.
   
   Bottom line - Large screen resolution doesn't amount to squat.  It's
   VIDEO QUALITY.  If the QUALITY of the video is crappy, then you can
   make the screen resolution WALLSIZED and it'd still be crappy.
   
   Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't the tutorials still
   up on MeFeedia?
   
   Hope this helps :D
   
What quality should I use on sound track?
What quality should I use on quicktime movie?
How small should this file size be?
   
thanks in advance.
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup
 Pedersen solitude@
wrote:

 Den 14.04.2007 kl. 19:06 skrev caroosky carter@:

  intermingled somehow. I think quicktime uses an swf in the
 quicktime
  wrapper when making things clickable in the video. Or something.

 No.

 --
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 URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 

   

   
   
   
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: when posting a podcast wich format should I use? _apple?

2007-04-15 Thread Rupert
Wow, I thought this was a brilliant post, Gena.

We should save cool things like this on the Wiki.
http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/

Looking at it, there's not an immediately apparent space for How To  
stuff like this that I can see.  There's resources: links to other  
sites, and there's links on the front page to Freevlog and Feevlog.

I thought we should set up a section which can hold pages of info  
like this with titles like When making a podcast which format should  
I use (which itself links to Freevlog, but has other context   
opinion as well)?

But I don't want to go messing with the wiki format that's been  
carefully laid out already, and make it all messy.

Rupert

On 15 Apr 2007, at 22:07, Gena wrote:

Ok, Let me take a shot at this. You can have any size you want. If
you want to post postage size video that is fine. The following
pertains to vlogs, web video and video on the Internet.

Back in the day when more folks were on dial-up you had to balance
many factors such as the dimensions, file size, video resolution and
quality. I pulled out one of my old video books and these were the
suggested sizes in the past:

Delivery/Dimension/Frames Per Second/Audio
E-mail 160x120 10fps Mono 22.05kHz
Web video 240x180 12fps Stereo 22.05 kHz
CD-ROM 320x240 15fps Stereo 44.1kHz

If you were placing video on a web site circa 1999 the above would
have been fine. But technology has moved forward.

In 2005 the recommended/suggested/used (pick one)dimension of video on
blogs was 320x240. Video placed on blogs/vlog at 320x240 best meet
those needs of the viewers and content producers. It is still used.
But it isn't the only way to do this.

It is now 2007. Times have changed. You still have to balance the
factors however more people are on high speed connections. There is
also the introduction of digital camcorders that can record in
different aspect ratios or recording dimensions.

For example, 640x480 and 320x240 are in the 4:3 aspect ratio or
more square like video. Same shape as an Analog TV screen.

The newer digital camcorders have the ability to record 16:9 or more
rectangular, like the way it looks like when you view DVD movies on
analog TV sets. Your Apple TV screen is in the 16:9 aspect ratio.

It is a matter of choice. Your choice on what will best serve the kind
of video you are delivering.

I'm really simplifying here folks so if the techies want to jump in
feel free. I just want to provide a conceptual understanding.

Over at Freevlog there are videos that might make it clear to you what
is going on.

Ryanne has her favorite compression settings
http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/01/14/screencast-ryannes- 
favorite-compression-settings/

If you just want to output to the iPod format then view
http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/03/19/41-compress-for-the-web- 
imovie/

If you are on Windows check out Michael's example. Even if you are a
Mac person check it out.
http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/03/19/4-compress-for-the-web- 
windows-movie-maker/

Keep asking questions,

Gena

http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Daryl Urig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am confused. Can someone read my setting's below in previous
question osted?
 
  I am told apple tv is: 640 x 480, 30 frames per sec.,
 
  and I am also told this:
 
  Yes. The standard resolution for ANY videoblog should be 320x240.
  Anything else and you're really making it rather difficult for those
  of who watch via the PC.
 
  Can someone make this clear for me? Also see question below.
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Cook
patsvideoblog@ wrote:
  
   Hi everyone:
  
   On 4/14/07, Daryl Urig daryl@ wrote:
   
With the sound track, a one minute movie 133 megs.
I am using 16 bit color
44 khz 16 bit sterio.
It is a 640 wide so it can be used with apple tv.
   
Is this a little large?
  
   Yes. The standard resolution for ANY videoblog should be 320x240.
   Anything else and you're really making it rather difficult for  
those
   of who watch via the PC.
  
   Bottom line - Large screen resolution doesn't amount to squat. It's
   VIDEO QUALITY. If the QUALITY of the video is crappy, then you can
   make the screen resolution WALLSIZED and it'd still be crappy.
  
   Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't the tutorials  
still
   up on MeFeedia?
  
   Hope this helps :D
  
What quality should I use on sound track?
What quality should I use on quicktime movie?
How small should this file size be?
   
thanks in advance.
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup
Pedersen solitude@
wrote:

 Den 14.04.2007 kl. 19:06 skrev caroosky carter@:

  intermingled somehow. I think quicktime uses an swf in the
quicktime
  wrapper when making things clickable in the video. Or  
something.

 No.

 --
 Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen

[videoblogging] Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-15 Thread Rupert
What's the most recent plan for this?  Last I heard here (just  
searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and not merged  
with BarCampUSA.  Is that right?  Still on?  Any definite plans?

Rupert
http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/




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[videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-15 Thread jonny goldstein
I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible venue for
Vloggercon 2007.

So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay Area
(The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political capital?
Imagine combining Vloggercon with  visits to your lawmakers, interest
groups, and such and vlogging those visits?

The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this town too,
and we can feed off and into that energy.

Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest group
in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for DIY media
makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are some issues
that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective voice
beats a solitary voice.

I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I just
want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of vloggers
on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in the
organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to help out.

OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What's the most recent plan for this?  Last I heard here (just  
 searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and not merged  
 with BarCampUSA.  Is that right?  Still on?  Any definite plans?
 
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
 http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] XBox360 to support mpeg4 h264

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Watkins
This news has been around a while now but I only just noticed. The
Xbox site buried the announcement in a document that mostly focussed
on Instant Messaging, but anyway the next update to XBox360 in early
May will include:

# Added H.264 video support: Up to 10 Mbps peak, Baseline, Main, and
High profiles with 2 channel AAC LC.
# Added MPEG-4 Part 2 video support: Up to 5 Mbps peak, Simple Profile
with 2 channel AAC LC.

Hoorah, all my recent waffle with Rupert about this stuff  Windows
Media Center is out of date, and it looks like I was wrong about how
much microsoft would resist mp4  h264. They are probably also showing
off because the XBox360 has plenty of power so it can handle high-spec
stuff. But it uses quite a lot of electrical power so Im not too keen
to promote it a the best solution, and its a tad loud. Very good
picture quality in HD modes when playing HD-DVD's so I expect the
mpeg4  h264 support to be equally good, I would guess its probably
the same decoder thats already used if you have the HD-DVD addon for
the 360, as both HD DVD and Blueray use h264.

Anyway I dunno if the update will be available for UK Xboxers at the
same time as the US, but when I get it I will report as to whether
ipod  apple tv formatted vlogs play back on it ok, Id certainly
hope/expect so.

Cheers

Steve Elbows



[videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-15 Thread Enric
Find a place and sponsors.

  ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible venue for
 Vloggercon 2007.
 
 So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay Area
 (The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political capital?
 Imagine combining Vloggercon with  visits to your lawmakers, interest
 groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
 
 The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this town too,
 and we can feed off and into that energy.
 
 Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest group
 in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for DIY media
 makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are some issues
 that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
 neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective voice
 beats a solitary voice.
 
 I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I just
 want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of vloggers
 on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in the
 organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to help out.
 
 OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?
 
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
 
  What's the most recent plan for this?  Last I heard here (just  
  searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and not merged  
  with BarCampUSA.  Is that right?  Still on?  Any definite plans?
  
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
  http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
  
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-15 Thread Jim Long
I'd like to second the motion made by my esteemed colleague Mr. Goldstein, the 
gentleman from DC.  Do we have a quorom? Would Speaker of the House Andy Carvin 
care to weigh in on this?

- Original Message 
From: Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:33 PM
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

Find a place and sponsors.

  ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible venue for
 Vloggercon 2007.
 
 So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay Area
 (The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political capital?
 Imagine combining Vloggercon with  visits to your lawmakers, interest
 groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
 
 The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this town too,
 and we can feed off and into that energy.
 
 Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest group
 in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for DIY media
 makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are some issues
 that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
 neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective voice
 beats a solitary voice.
 
 I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I just
 want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of vloggers
 on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in the
 organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to help out.
 
 OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?
 
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
 
  What's the most recent plan for this?  Last I heard here (just  
  searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and not merged  
  with BarCampUSA.  Is that right?  Still on?  Any definite plans?
  
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
  http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
  
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-15 Thread RANDY MANN
if you plan it they will come

i started to look into venues for boston, got some leads. just need some
sponsors for booking deposets.

On 4/15/07, Jim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'd like to second the motion made by my esteemed colleague Mr.
 Goldstein, the gentleman from DC. Do we have a quorom? Would Speaker of the
 House Andy Carvin care to weigh in on this?


 - Original Message 
 From: Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] enric%40cirne.com
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:33 PM
 Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

 Find a place and sponsors.

 ;)

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 jonny goldstein
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible venue for
  Vloggercon 2007.
 
  So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay Area
  (The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political capital?
  Imagine combining Vloggercon with visits to your lawmakers, interest
  groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
 
  The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this town too,
  and we can feed off and into that energy.
 
  Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest group
  in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for DIY media
  makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are some issues
  that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
  neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective voice
  beats a solitary voice.
 
  I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I just
  want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of vloggers
  on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in the
  organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to help out.
 
  OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?
 
 
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Rupert rupert@ wrote:
  
   What's the most recent plan for this? Last I heard here (just
   searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and not merged
   with BarCampUSA. Is that right? Still on? Any definite plans?
  
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
   http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
   http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
  
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread sull
Josh-

Maybe this is something the video vertigo team would be willing to tackle? (
 i.e. key/value pairs)


Can you ellaborate here?  Because it sounds similar to some of my efforts.

Thnx,

sull


On 4/15/07, joshpaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Yes, metadata is key. There are already hooks available, it just seems
 that
 the vast majority of people aren't using them. In other words, the major
 video containers provide methods to embed metadata, so that it travels
 with
 the file itself.

 Maybe this is something the video vertigo team would be willing to tackle?
 (
 i.e. key/value pairs)




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread sull
Right, and it was actually experimented with on vlogwall.com.  In another
recent thread I made mention of that too.
The idea of the vPiP approach and SMIL/RSS usage seemed perfect, at least
conceptually.  This was last Summer mind you.
So I made a gridwall of vPiP embeds of Video RSS Feeds (I just call them
vodcasts).  RSS feeds were transformed to SMIL.
I had added pre and post clips to demonstrate what could be ads, cc
licenses, branding bumps etc.
So an entire video feed could technically be played back right within the
embedded player and you could easily switch around to different
feeds by clicking the other vPiP images/embeds.

But, as mentioned before, Quicktime SMIL does tend to get overwhelmed and
can suffer buffering delays or hangups.  It worls better when every video is
optimized small clips and the user doesnt jump around the playlist to much.
So all in all, not ideal for the mass audience of net video, unfortunately.


It's all about Flash when it comes to web based playback and playlisting of
video.  It just works more smoothly than anything else and now that Flash
Video quality has improved so much in the past 12-18 months there is no
reason to take full advantage of the platform right now.

I also mentioned Jeroen's
Playerhttp://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=Flash_Media_Player
His is probably the basis several video services.
YouTube started off using it and I have been using it since he released the
first version long ago.
It's good stuff and he has been actively developing and fixing it over the
years.
I recently talked to Jeroen again about supporting SMIL extensively.
It's not a simple undertaking, but I think a SMIL smart Flash Wrapper is a
big deal and I am pushing for him to consider expending the time on
development of that (as well as myself and others).

Of course, you can do alot by way of custom namespaces in RSS or XSPF to
achieve all kinds of cool functionality.  But the idea of utilising a
standards compliant format and what I think is just an extremely cool XML
spec... SMIL could make a comeback in the web.  Its been around a long long
time and nobody really ever talks about it.  It is commonly used for mobile
phone networks however.  I just think it can be brought into the limelight
and be used creatively again and now with Flash as the wrapper instead of
Quicktime or Real.

Sull



On 4/15/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thats brilliant news, cheers. vPIP is wonderful stuff, the flash
  player being closed isnt exactly a big issue, I just got curious about
  how everyone makes these things, and what efforts are out there that
  are happy for others to build on top of them. I wouldnt want to do
  anything that went against the spirit of what the creator intended
  when releasing their stuff.
 
  Could you explain if/what sort of use of SMIL your vPIP can do? Is it
  passing SMIL along to play in quicktime or something else?

 Yes, there's basic support for SMIL in quicktime (passing SMIL along
 should be the accurate description.) I haven't done work in SMIL
 myself, but setup support for SMIL in vPIP during debugging with
 Michael Sullivan having vPIP with SMIL on vlogdir.com.

 In the vPIP package the file, InitSMIL.mov, gives SMIL activation support.

 -- Enric


 
  Cheers
 
  Steve Elbows
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Enric enric@ wrote:
 
   I plan to release an open version of the included flash flv player in
   vPIP. Right now it's under development for features I'm writing for
   the cinegage site (not ready yet.) Once I can package the flash flv
   player so it has some commenting, cleaned up code and useable, I'll
   release that version under an open license.
  
   BTW, You can use any flash flv player in vPIP including the one by
   jeroenwijering. See
  
   http://vpip.org/home/playing-flash/
  
   -- Enric
   -==-
   http://cirne.com
 

  



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: New blip.tv show player

2007-04-15 Thread joshpaul
I'm not that familiar with your efforts. Is there somewhere online I can
view them?

I'm essentially thinking using key/value pairs within metadata hooks
provided by QT, Flash, et al. Basically, come up with some type of schema we
can expect to extract, such as licensing restrictions, copyright owner,
originating host (i.e. blip.tv, youtube.com, ...) etc.

I think part of the problem is that the hooks are there, but nobody is
embedding the information. So, nobody's looking for it.

On 4/15/07, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Josh-

 Maybe this is something the video vertigo team would be willing to tackle?
 (
  i.e. key/value pairs)

 Can you ellaborate here? Because it sounds similar to some of my efforts.

 Thnx,

 sull

 On 4/15/07, joshpaul [EMAIL PROTECTED]lists%2Byahoo%40joshpaul.com
 wrote:
 
  Yes, metadata is key. There are already hooks available, it just seems
  that
  the vast majority of people aren't using them. In other words, the major
  video containers provide methods to embed metadata, so that it travels
  with
  the file itself.
 
  Maybe this is something the video vertigo team would be willing to
 tackle?
  (
  i.e. key/value pairs)
 
 

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