[videoblogging] Re: vlogeurope2007

2007-08-27 Thread miglsd27

Next best thing Jeffrey! But hardly the same, as you very well know. Thanks.

Miguel.


 Fear not, Miguel! You can attend virtually, which I know isn't the same but
 it's the closest thing to coming. A lot of people just couldn't make it this
 year.
 
 For the Saturday sessions, we're streaming the entire event and will be
 using the chat as a projected backchannel.
 
 Raymond and I are also putting the finishing touches on the Sunday Vlogging
 Heidelberg session, and we're coming up with ways for remote participants
 to play along.
 
 Stay tuned. I'll be posting more information here later this week.
 
 And if anybody has any questions about Vlog Europe, please feel free to mail
 me or Raymond.
 
 Bonne Soirée de Paris,
 
 Jeffrey



Re: [videoblogging] Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Andreas
Historic overview and hardware:  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VJ_(video_performance_artist)

Software: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VJ_software

- Andreas

Den 27.08.2007 kl. 12:39 skrev caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 How as a filmmaker

 Do you achieve the ecstasy of performance

 I'm currently listening to Pink Floyd, Pulse Live, the crowd's energy,
 the live performance

 How the hell do we mirror that as filmmakers?

 Can we perform live?

 Can we incorporate music, emotion, to make people move, feel?

 Imagine a 'live' film festival

 How can this be achieved?

 If one can find the answer, we have found the greatest story telling
 medium

 Imagine a software program that would allow one to edit 'live'?

 To 'mix' a story before an audience?




-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
http://www.solitude.dk/


[videoblogging] Rates for 12 vodcasts... Need your help...

2007-08-27 Thread L Velasquez
Hi, 

I am in need of your help again.  I was wondering if a few folks could send
me (off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) a general idea of the range of
prices I might pay if I wanted:

12  five minute video podcasts created (one camera shoot, interview / head
talking directly to camera type of podcast).  Of there would be some editing
involved, but not too extensive).

Also the opening sequence the intro would need to be created which would
be used for all of the podcasts. The opening would require more editing and
some creative work.

The raw footage of the video would be shot in one day (9-7pm) in your studio
or on location (in a classroom).

I do NOT plan to commit you to this price, I am just in the planning stages
and am interested in understanding what would constitute a fair and
reasonable offer for this type of work.


I am a small business person and this is not my area of expertise.

Thanks for any help you can provide me.


P.S. I was able to find someone to shoot the video in SF --thanks for your
help!

-
Lisa B. Marshall
856-330-1623 direct (NEW)
928-569-2253 fax 
877-546-1231 toll free


Web:  www.lisabmarshall.com
Blog: artofspeakingscience.com  

Passionate about communication...your success is my business
 
   




[videoblogging] Re: Slikstr---has anyone heard of this company?

2007-08-27 Thread Bill Streeter
Yes they are a parody of a Web 2.0 start-up. Not a real company. 
Think of it as a multi-platform performance art/comedy routine. I 
dig what they are doing, and part of what makes it fun is that they 
can be easily confused for a real company.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
www.billstreeter.net

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Slikstr seems to be a fake company created as part of
 a mockumentary called Office 2.0. More info here:
 
 
http://listcultures.org/pipermail/videovortex_listcultures.org/2007-
April/55.html
 
 -jay
 illdoctrine.com
 
 
 --- robdimenno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm new to the group (and videoblogging in general).
   I recently sent
  a video resume to a company called Slikstr, after
  they put up a video
  on YouTube for a job opening.  From what I can tell,
  their claim to
  fame is that they are the first ever user created
  company, but I
  have yet to figure out what it is that they do other
  than being a Web
  2.0 startup with VC backing.  I got a call back for
  an interview and I
  wanted to check with the group and see if anyone
  might shed some
  light.  Thanks in advance.
  
  Rob Dimenno
  http://thebobbydpage.blogspot.com/
  
  
 
 
 
   
_
___
 Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative 
vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
 http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/





Re: [videoblogging] Rates for 12 vodcasts... Need your help...

2007-08-27 Thread Richard Amirault
Your message in confusing.  First you ask for a price for creating 12 five 
minutes spots.  Then you say they've already been filmed. Are you just 
asking for editing costs now?  AND where the heck are you?

Richard Amirault
Boston, MA, USA
http://n1jdu.org
http://fandom.n1jdu.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ
- Original Message - 
From: L Velasquez
I am in need of your help again.  I was wondering if a few folks could send
me (off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) a general idea of the range of
prices I might pay if I wanted:

12  five minute video podcasts created (one camera shoot, interview / head
talking directly to camera type of podcast).  Of there would be some editing
involved, but not too extensive).

Also the opening sequence the intro would need to be created which would
be used for all of the podcasts. The opening would require more editing and
some creative work.

The raw footage of the video would be shot in one day (9-7pm) in your studio
or on location (in a classroom).

I do NOT plan to commit you to this price, I am just in the planning stages
and am interested in understanding what would constitute a fair and
reasonable offer for this type of work.


I am a small business person and this is not my area of expertise.

Thanks for any help you can provide me.


P.S. I was able to find someone to shoot the video in SF --thanks for your
help!


Re: [videoblogging] Rates for 12 vodcasts... Need your help...

2007-08-27 Thread Brook Hinton
1. 9-7 is an awfully long shoot day for interviews
2. in your studio - if that means a studio set up for shooting - treated
for sound, lights, etc. - you should pay an additional rental fee for the
studio.
3. Rates for producing vodcasts are no different than rates for producing
any other video or film.
4. For a one-person crew doing this sort of thing in SF, expect to pay from
$400 to $1200 and more for one day, plus materials, depending on the
person's experience. Equipment rental is usually extra, and a ten hour day
may mean overtime fees.
5. Same rates for editing.
6. As most vloggers can testify, one person can get amazing results, but two
or three (adding sound and a grip/lighting person) will bump up the polish
significantly if you can afford it.

Brook


___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com


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[videoblogging] Re:Rates for 12 vodcasts... Need your help...

2007-08-27 Thread eric gunnar rochow
Hi Lisa,

Not quite sure what your intention is here.

are you soliciting estimates for a project?

Estimates vary widely depending on what you need done, and where you  
are located, at the very least, it entails a few phone calls to get a  
real sense of the job .

I think if you are looking for estimates for a video shoot, then you  
should contact video producers in your area and ask them to send  
estimates.

You can find many talented video producers at www.mandy.com

thx, eric.

www.choplogic.net


Re: [videoblogging] Rates for 12 vodcasts... Need your help...

2007-08-27 Thread L Velasquez
Hi, 

The P.S. comment was about a video shot in SF for different project.  The
project outlined is something else. Two different things.

I am in Philadelphia, but travel to NYC and Boston for seminars. (For
example, I will be speaking at Harvard in the next few months.)

Thanks again for your help


From: Richard Amirault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:05:56 -0400
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Rates for 12 vodcasts... Need your help...

 
 
 

Your message in confusing.  First you ask for a price for creating 12 five
minutes spots.  Then you say they've already been filmed. Are you just
asking for editing costs now?  AND where the heck are you?

Richard Amirault
Boston, MA, USA
http://n1jdu.org
http://fandom.n1jdu.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ
- Original Message -
From: L Velasquez
I am in need of your help again.  I was wondering if a few folks could send
me (off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:lisa%40lisabmarshall.com ) a
general idea of the range of
prices I might pay if I wanted:

12  five minute video podcasts created (one camera shoot, interview / head
talking directly to camera type of podcast).  Of there would be some editing
involved, but not too extensive).

Also the opening sequence the intro would need to be created which would
be used for all of the podcasts. The opening would require more editing and
some creative work.

The raw footage of the video would be shot in one day (9-7pm) in your studio
or on location (in a classroom).

I do NOT plan to commit you to this price, I am just in the planning stages
and am interested in understanding what would constitute a fair and
reasonable offer for this type of work.

I am a small business person and this is not my area of expertise.

Thanks for any help you can provide me.

P.S. I was able to find someone to shoot the video in SF --thanks for your
help!
 




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[videoblogging] Re: Rates for 12 vodcasts... Need your help...

2007-08-27 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
This thread may help you to see things from the perspective of the
people you will either hire or how to price yourself doing the work.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/61522

You could approach a video production company for pricing. Your local
phonebook is the easiest to research from. Look under Video
Production, Motion Picture and Photography. 

On the web...

A google search will provide a lot of info for rates and so you may
not need to speak to anyone to get ballpark numbers. This approach
will give you a pretty wide range of prices and services.

A search string to try: video + production + webisodes + rates + packages

once you see what you get, you can tweak the words used to drill down
for your needs.




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, L Velasquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I am in need of your help again.  I was wondering if a few folks
could send
 me (off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) a general idea of the range of
 prices I might pay if I wanted:
 
 12  five minute video podcasts created (one camera shoot, interview
/ head
 talking directly to camera type of podcast).  Of there would be some
editing
 involved, but not too extensive).
 
 Also the opening sequence the intro would need to be created which
would
 be used for all of the podcasts. The opening would require more
editing and
 some creative work.
 
 The raw footage of the video would be shot in one day (9-7pm) in
your studio
 or on location (in a classroom).
 
 I do NOT plan to commit you to this price, I am just in the planning
stages
 and am interested in understanding what would constitute a fair and
 reasonable offer for this type of work.
 
 
 I am a small business person and this is not my area of expertise.
 
 Thanks for any help you can provide me.
 
 
 P.S. I was able to find someone to shoot the video in SF --thanks
for your
 help!
 
 -
 Lisa B. Marshall
 856-330-1623 direct (NEW)
 928-569-2253 fax 
 877-546-1231 toll free
 
 
 Web:  www.lisabmarshall.com
 Blog: artofspeakingscience.com  
 
 Passionate about communication...your success is my business





Re: [videoblogging] Re: do video blogger care about privacy?

2007-08-27 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
start with ... I watch Randy Mann videos :)

... Richard the odd ...

On 8/25/07, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

so I'm wondering what's odd about
 me

 oh where do i start


 On 8/24/07, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]deirdre.straughan%40gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I've been very much myself online for 25 years, from text to video (I
  still
  mostly do text), and have sometimes been asked whether it feels weird to
  have complete strangers know so much about me. If it felt weird, I
  wouldn't
  do it. What I tell about myself online is not quite as open as it
 appears,
  but anything I'm hiding is mostly out of respect for others' privacy,
  not
  concerns about my own.
 
  Sometimes protecting others gets me into gray areas. I'm beginning to
  wonder: when are the stories of my life MY stories, free for me to tell,
  though other people are big parts of those stories?
 
  It's interesting to see that my daughter (now legally an adult) has
  followed
  this path of openness without my really discussing it with her
 explicitly.
  She's had one weird stalker incident (turned out to be a local
 teenager),
  but not much else to feel uncomfortable about in spite of being far more
  appetizing a target than I am.
 
  The return for my openness is that I've made a lot of friends (and so
 has
  Ross). I have usually been comfortable with blurring the lines between
 my
  online and offline worlds - as those who came to vlogEurope last year
  know,
  I had no qualms about inviting to stay in my house a bunch of people
 whom
  I
  knew mostly via their videos (which, ahem, I'd hardly even watched). (If
  all
  else failed, Andreas would beat them up for me, right? grin)
 
  BTW, while we're on the subject: I'll be in the Bay Area from Sept 5-15
  and
  would love to see people! In San Francisco 5th evening through 8th am,
  then
  Silicon Valley for a conference (Storage Developers - not exciting to
 this
  group, but I am being paid to film it!), then back in SFO Sept 13-15,
 when
  I
  leave to return to Europe.
 
  --
  best regards,
  Deirdré Straughan
 
  living  travelling in Italy
  (and other Countries Beginning with I)
  www.beginningwithi.com
 
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-- 
Richard
http://richardhhall.org
Shows
http://richardshow.org
http://inspiredhealing.tv


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[videoblogging] Re: Rates for 12 vodcasts... Need your help...

2007-08-27 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, L Velasquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I am in need of your help again.  I was wondering if a few folks
could send
 me (off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) a general idea of the range of
 prices I might pay if I wanted:
 
 12  five minute video podcasts created (one camera shoot, interview
/ head
 talking directly to camera type of podcast).  Of there would be some
editing
 involved, but not too extensive).

Do them yourself for free... visit http://freevlog.org to find out
how.  Whether you have a PC or a Mac, you probably have access right
now to the tools you need to make a video of that type on your own.

 Also the opening sequence the intro would need to be created which
would
 be used for all of the podcasts. The opening would require more
editing and
 some creative work.

The cost of getting an intro done depends on the amount of work you're
doing vs the amount of work the person you're hiring is doing.  If
you're creating the elements and doing the pre-production and figuring
out the script or flow of the video, you just need someone to
technically make it happen.  The less you're bringing to the table,
the more you're going to be charged because it's going to take much
longer for someone to make something up from scratch.

Your best bet there is to have video clips already selected and stills
already selected and titles already selected and sound bites already
selected so the process goes as quickly as possible when you find
someone to do this for you... Assuming you don't decide to do it yourself.

 The raw footage of the video would be shot in one day (9-7pm) in
your studio
 or on location (in a classroom).

12 5-minute videos = 1 hour's worth of video.  You need to script it
as well as possible and practice before going to the shoot so you have
it down. Assuming an hour for lunch, 9-7 is a 9-hour day, which means
a 9:1 shooting ratio for a talking-head video. Unnecessary.  Set up a
camera yourself on a tripod or use a webcam/iSight and film the clips
at your leisure.  Use whatever editing package comes with your
computer to select what you feel are the best takes, and THEN take
that to someone to get edited.

 I do NOT plan to commit you to this price, I am just in the planning
stages
 and am interested in understanding what would constitute a fair and
 reasonable offer for this type of work.

Depends on who you ask and what you're asking them to do.  Again, the
more YOU do, the less you have to pay because you're taking up less of
that person's time.  There are people that would do a project like
this for very little money, and there are people that would charge you
the same amount as anyone else that's taking up their time, whether
that's for broadcast/film video work or website development.

 I am a small business person and this is not my area of expertise.
 
 Thanks for any help you can provide me.
 
 
 P.S. I was able to find someone to shoot the video in SF --thanks
for your
 help!
 
 -
 Lisa B. Marshall
 856-330-1623 direct (NEW)
 928-569-2253 fax�
 877-546-1231 toll free
 
 
 Web:  www.lisabmarshall.com
 Blog: artofspeakingscience.com��
 
 Passionate about communication...your success is my business

Do as much as you can on your own.  Make the project as simple as
possible for whomever you're going to hire.  If you want it done
cheap, look for people trying to make a reel.

--
billcammack
http://community.realfans.tv



[videoblogging] Re: Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Steve Watkins
Yeah, lots of quirks in VJ software, and a lot of fun. Lots of
non-live preparation required to do something amazing live.

Ive always had a fascination with the idea of video instruments, with
video being created and manipulated in the same ways as music; mixing,
sampling, sequencing, and synthesizing.

Online flash-based video mixers are a place to start for people just
looking to dabble, theres quite a few but off the top of my head:

http://www.onyx-vj.com/

http://www.flxer.net/software/

be warned that one infuriating thing about quite a lot of VJ software
is that it often doesnt handle sound fully, as many VJs are doing
visuals in time to music in clubs etc. Some software does output sound
live, but doesnt record it.

Anyways, now that flash is supporting h264 I expect we may see even
more of these sorts of apps in the online world, and there is quite a
lot of common ground between flash vj apps and online flash video
editing apps, there may be great things to come in future. If I ever
get good enough at flash, I hope to do something that allows remixing
and resequencing of clips that originate from an RSS feed, so I could
do some strange remixes of my blog archive. Not sure if this will
work, but it will be fun to experiment. Anyway thats drifting away
from the topic of doing video live, it just uses some of the same
tools as some live video performers might.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Live Cinema has a long and rich history. Currently there are many
filmmakers
 who perform, to one extent or another, their works live, in forms
ranging
 from performance/theater incorporating film (Miranda July probably
being the
 most generally known) to VJs and related laptop-virtuosos to
multi-projector
 performance using actual film. And so much interesting stuff in between.
 IT's kind of hard to point to resources about performance cinema
generally
 because there are so many types, and they each have their own
independent
 culture, dialog, community, etc.
 
 As for software programs allowing one to mix and edit live, there
are oodles
 of them, but as the VJ market drives them they often have infuriating
 limitations (along with amazing possibilities) - for example, I use
modul8
 quite a bit, chosen primarily for image quality and speed, but in
order to
 get a clip to play once and then stop not on a freeze frame but end
on black
 I have to either make a special version of it with a black frame at
the end
 or be very quick with a fader or button on a midi controller. And no
 timecode-accurate markers, blah blah blah... but this type of
software is
 getting better by the minute.
 
 VDMX5 is currently in public beta and looks VERY promising:
 www.vidvox.net
 
 Brook
 
 
 
 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] Jason Calacanis thinks you'll love Mahalo Follow

2007-08-27 Thread jason
Jason Calacanis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has invited you to try Mahalo Follow, a 
browser extension for Firefox that helps you find better search results. You 
can download the extension here:

http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9

Mahalo is a human-powered search engine that creates organized, comprehensive, 
and spam-free search results for the most popular search terms. Mahalo's search 
results only include great links.

Mahalo results are amazing and the Mahalo Follow browser extension lets you see 
human-powered results right next to Google and Yahoo's results so you can judge 
for yourself!

All you have to do is install Mahalo Follow and continue to use your current 
search engine. Mahalo Follow will make sure you never miss great Mahalo results.

Here's the link again:
http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9


Learn more about Mahalo: www.mahalo.com/Mahalo_FAQ


[videoblogging] Re: Jason Calacanis thinks you'll love Mahalo Follow

2007-08-27 Thread Steve Watkins
A human-powered spam-free message announcing this would be nice ;)

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jason Calacanis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has invited you to try Mahalo Follow, a
browser extension for Firefox that helps you find better search
results. You can download the extension here:
 
 http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
 
 Mahalo is a human-powered search engine that creates organized,
comprehensive, and spam-free search results for the most popular
search terms. Mahalo's search results only include great links.
 
 Mahalo results are amazing and the Mahalo Follow browser extension
lets you see human-powered results right next to Google and Yahoo's
results so you can judge for yourself!
 
 All you have to do is install Mahalo Follow and continue to use your
current search engine. Mahalo Follow will make sure you never miss
great Mahalo results.
 
 Here's the link again:
 http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
 
 
 Learn more about Mahalo: www.mahalo.com/Mahalo_FAQ





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Brook Hinton
A tip for anyone who starts to explore the non-flash software: use
photo-jpeg (at 75% or higher quality) as the codec for the video files.
Frame-based codecs are  much easier on the processor, and photo-jpeg (though
some prefer apple motion jpeg A or B) has emerged as a good balance between
performance and quality. Temporally compressed codecs don't work too well,
and h.264 is particularly tough for more than a stream or two. I hate the
banding photo-jpeg creates but there isn't a viable alternative yet.

If you like programming or scripting, the two most popular choices for
building your own setup are Max/MSP/Jitter (www.cycling74.com) and Isadora
(don't have the URL handy - it's marketed by a live performance group that
uses it in their performances).

Some contemporary live-cinema performers who come to mind that you may want
to explore:

Sue Costabile
Miranda July
Laurie Anderson
Nate Boyce
Zoe Beloff
Wet Gate
Scott Arford
Nate Boyce
Potter-Belmar Labs/Future Worker Girl

There are also many theater and dance companies doing really interesting
things with live video.


Brook
___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Brook Hinton
Oh and more for the programming-minded: Quartz Composer (free in the Apple
Developer Tools) and Processing are two free options for building your own
live video applications.

vjcentral.com has good forums discussing this stuff - keep in mind its
mostly from the point of view of live vj use.

Brook




-- 
___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com


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[videoblogging] Re: Jason Calacanis thinks you'll love Mahalo Follow

2007-08-27 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Not spam though it looks like it. He is the owner or at least their
best employee.

*Please Note: Mahalo full-time staff are not eligible to win contest
prizes

http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/leaderboard/ftg


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jason Calacanis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has invited you to try Mahalo Follow, a
browser extension for Firefox that helps you find better search
results. You can download the extension here:
 
 http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
 
 Mahalo is a human-powered search engine that creates organized,
comprehensive, and spam-free search results for the most popular
search terms. Mahalo's search results only include great links.
 
 Mahalo results are amazing and the Mahalo Follow browser extension
lets you see human-powered results right next to Google and Yahoo's
results so you can judge for yourself!
 
 All you have to do is install Mahalo Follow and continue to use your
current search engine. Mahalo Follow will make sure you never miss
great Mahalo results.
 
 Here's the link again:
 http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
 
 
 Learn more about Mahalo: www.mahalo.com/Mahalo_FAQ





[videoblogging] Re: Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Steve Watkins
Here's a few more on the programming side of things:

 for Windows:
http://www..org/tiki-index.php

Nodebox for Mac:
http://nodebox.net/code/index.php/Home

For the non-programming-minded, heres a few recent VJ apps that are
free and fairly new, I havent had a chance to try them myself yet:

http://www.quasecinema.org/

http://www.beatharness.com/

That last one is more like an automatic generator, like the music
visualizers you've probably seen elsewhere.

Argh Im currently going round in circles because I thought I saw an
online video drum machine once upoon a time but I cant remember what
it was called, or maybe I dreamt it.

and going back to what I said earlier, from the non-live online video
remixing side of things, I keep forgetting about sites like
eyespot.com, which I still havent got round to trying.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh and more for the programming-minded: Quartz Composer (free in the
Apple
 Developer Tools) and Processing are two free options for building
your own
 live video applications.
 
 vjcentral.com has good forums discussing this stuff - keep in mind its
 mostly from the point of view of live vj use.
 
 Brook
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Steve Watkins
Ahh I remembered what I was thinking of, its not online but rather an app:

http://www.neuromixer.com/product-avdrum.php#

I recommend watching the demo video on that page to get an idea of
just one possible technique, in this case with clips of video treated
like audio samples, and then sequenced or triggered live using midi
equipment, or both.

The control aspect of a VJ setup is interesting. A lot of software
supports midi, so we are talking about lots of interesting audio
hardware, from keyboards to drum machines to sequencers,. Game
controllers can be setup to send midi instead, so you could use
steering wheels, joysticks, wii controllers, etc. Or just a keyboard
and mouse.

Brook's advice about formats is very good, depending on what you are
trying to do, this stuff can take a lot of power, so optimising clips
to be used live is an important part of the art.

Anyways, yeah vjcentral and vjforums are good resources that could be
a little daunting, by way of disclaimer I currently host those sites
on my server, although I am even more useless at being an active VJ
than I am about videoblogging. Same old story really, too much time
talking about the tools  tech, not enough actually doing it.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's a few more on the programming side of things:
 
  for Windows:
 http://www..org/tiki-index.php
 
 Nodebox for Mac:
 http://nodebox.net/code/index.php/Home
 
 For the non-programming-minded, heres a few recent VJ apps that are
 free and fairly new, I havent had a chance to try them myself yet:
 
 http://www.quasecinema.org/
 
 http://www.beatharness.com/
 
 That last one is more like an automatic generator, like the music
 visualizers you've probably seen elsewhere.
 
 Argh Im currently going round in circles because I thought I saw an
 online video drum machine once upoon a time but I cant remember what
 it was called, or maybe I dreamt it.
 
 and going back to what I said earlier, from the non-live online video
 remixing side of things, I keep forgetting about sites like
 eyespot.com, which I still havent got round to trying.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhinton@ wrote:
 
  Oh and more for the programming-minded: Quartz Composer (free in the
 Apple
  Developer Tools) and Processing are two free options for building
 your own
  live video applications.
  
  vjcentral.com has good forums discussing this stuff - keep in mind its
  mostly from the point of view of live vj use.
  
  Brook
  
  
  
  
  -- 
  ___
  Brook Hinton
  film/video/audio art
  www.brookhinton.com
  
  
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 





[videoblogging] now this is sweet - 1 today 5 tomorrow

2007-08-27 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
http://www.mempile.com/tech.html


Mempile has developed a removable optical storage technology allowing
for the storage of 1 Terabyte (1,000 Gigabytes) of information on a
single inexpensive disc. The device builds on the existing know-how
attained through the development of CDs and DVDs, extending it so as
to write layers upon layers of stacked information. This quantum leap
in storage capacity (viz., equivalent to 200 DVDs on a single disc)
will allow it to offer a unique and exceptional solution for the
personal video recording, high-resolution TV, and archiving markets.
The product itself will look and behave very much like the familiar
removable optical devices; the disc itself is 12cm in diameter and
made out of an inexpensive translucent polymer.





[videoblogging] Re: Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Steve Watkins
Oh I cant stop waffling on this topic, just a few more things:

Live video can be incorporated into the mix. So you can have a
ombination of live feeds from 1 or more cameras, and pre-recorded
clips, mixed together in various ways, with various effects. Can be
used for anything from crowd shots to a theatre group using such
things for live special effects with clever use of screens  projection.

Live puppetry is another fascinating field that has yet to get far on
an affordable level. Fairly crude avatars in virtual worlds, and other
forms of machinima are currently whats accessible to people, but there
are some limitations, a lot usually isnt done live. There are a few
people working on affordable realtime 3d model control, but this stuff
geets complex, fast, I have lost years of my life trying to explore
the 3d aspects of realtime visuals, and largely failed. (Pilgrim 3D R2
and Touch Designer would be examples of realtime 3D apps, windows only
unfortunately).

The idea that Ive had i my head for years, and not been able to get
close to yet, is to make vlogs using realtime tools to keep the
process fast, try to get 80% there live and not have to do too much
post production. Show would involve 3d characters in scenes that are
setup beforehand and reused, with some of the animation being pre-done
and some being controlled live. Live video, or video clips, would be
mapped onto the 3d characters face. At this rate I'll achieve this
goal by 2045 ;)

Meanwhile on a much simpler and more accessible level, I seem to
recall seeing a Steve Jobs Leopard preview where they've added various
realtime effects to iChat, which could be the start of something
interesting or may remain a limited novelty.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ahh I remembered what I was thinking of, its not online but rather
an app:
 
 http://www.neuromixer.com/product-avdrum.php#
 
 I recommend watching the demo video on that page to get an idea of
 just one possible technique, in this case with clips of video treated
 like audio samples, and then sequenced or triggered live using midi
 equipment, or both.
 
 The control aspect of a VJ setup is interesting. A lot of software
 supports midi, so we are talking about lots of interesting audio
 hardware, from keyboards to drum machines to sequencers,. Game
 controllers can be setup to send midi instead, so you could use
 steering wheels, joysticks, wii controllers, etc. Or just a keyboard
 and mouse.
 
 Brook's advice about formats is very good, depending on what you are
 trying to do, this stuff can take a lot of power, so optimising clips
 to be used live is an important part of the art.
 
 Anyways, yeah vjcentral and vjforums are good resources that could be
 a little daunting, by way of disclaimer I currently host those sites
 on my server, although I am even more useless at being an active VJ
 than I am about videoblogging. Same old story really, too much time
 talking about the tools  tech, not enough actually doing it.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote:
 
  Here's a few more on the programming side of things:
  
   for Windows:
  http://www..org/tiki-index.php
  
  Nodebox for Mac:
  http://nodebox.net/code/index.php/Home
  
  For the non-programming-minded, heres a few recent VJ apps that are
  free and fairly new, I havent had a chance to try them myself yet:
  
  http://www.quasecinema.org/
  
  http://www.beatharness.com/
  
  That last one is more like an automatic generator, like the music
  visualizers you've probably seen elsewhere.
  
  Argh Im currently going round in circles because I thought I saw an
  online video drum machine once upoon a time but I cant remember what
  it was called, or maybe I dreamt it.
  
  and going back to what I said earlier, from the non-live online video
  remixing side of things, I keep forgetting about sites like
  eyespot.com, which I still havent got round to trying.
  
  Cheers
  
  Steve Elbows
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhinton@ wrote:
  
   Oh and more for the programming-minded: Quartz Composer (free in the
  Apple
   Developer Tools) and Processing are two free options for building
  your own
   live video applications.
   
   vjcentral.com has good forums discussing this stuff - keep in
mind its
   mostly from the point of view of live vj use.
   
   Brook
   
   
   
   
   -- 
   ___
   Brook Hinton
   film/video/audio art
   www.brookhinton.com
   
   
   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  
 





[videoblogging] Re: Jason Calacanis thinks you'll love Mahalo Follow

2007-08-27 Thread Bill Streeter
It's spam because he's using this list to promote something that is 
not even remotely related to the subject of this list. Spam doesn't 
have to be robot generated to be spam. Spam are unsolicited 
promotional emails period. 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
www.billstreeter.net


--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not spam though it looks like it. He is the owner or at least their
 best employee.
 
 *Please Note: Mahalo full-time staff are not eligible to win 
contest
 prizes
 
 http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/leaderboard/ftg
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jason@ wrote:
 
  Jason Calacanis (jason@) has invited you to try Mahalo Follow, a
 browser extension for Firefox that helps you find better search
 results. You can download the extension here:
  
  http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
  
  Mahalo is a human-powered search engine that creates organized,
 comprehensive, and spam-free search results for the most popular
 search terms. Mahalo's search results only include great links.
  
  Mahalo results are amazing and the Mahalo Follow browser 
extension
 lets you see human-powered results right next to Google and Yahoo's
 results so you can judge for yourself!
  
  All you have to do is install Mahalo Follow and continue to use 
your
 current search engine. Mahalo Follow will make sure you never miss
 great Mahalo results.
  
  Here's the link again:
  http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
  
  
  Learn more about Mahalo: www.mahalo.com/Mahalo_FAQ
 





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jason Calacanis thinks you'll love Mahalo Follow

2007-08-27 Thread Andrew Baron
Exactly. Kinda sad to see that they have resorted to this to try and  
get people to the site.


On Aug 27, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Bill Streeter wrote:

 It's spam because he's using this list to promote something that is
 not even remotely related to the subject of this list. Spam doesn't
 have to be robot generated to be spam. Spam are unsolicited
 promotional emails period.

 Bill Streeter
 LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
 www.lofistl.com
 www.billstreeter.net

 --- In
 videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Not spam though it looks like it. He is the owner or at least their
  best employee.
 
  *Please Note: Mahalo full-time staff are not eligible to win
 contest
  prizes
 
  http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/leaderboard/ftg
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jason@ wrote:
  
   Jason Calacanis (jason@) has invited you to try Mahalo Follow, a
  browser extension for Firefox that helps you find better search
  results. You can download the extension here:
  
   http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
  
   Mahalo is a human-powered search engine that creates organized,
  comprehensive, and spam-free search results for the most popular
  search terms. Mahalo's search results only include great links.
  
   Mahalo results are amazing and the Mahalo Follow browser
 extension
  lets you see human-powered results right next to Google and Yahoo's
  results so you can judge for yourself!
  
   All you have to do is install Mahalo Follow and continue to use
 your
  current search engine. Mahalo Follow will make sure you never miss
  great Mahalo results.
  
   Here's the link again:
   http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
  
  
   Learn more about Mahalo: www.mahalo.com/Mahalo_FAQ
  
 


 



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Re: [videoblogging] Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Mark Shea
Thanks Brook, I will both programs you mentioned

Mark

Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Live 
Cinema has a long and rich history. Currently there are many filmmakers
 who perform, to one extent or another, their works live, in forms ranging
 from performance/theater incorporating film (Miranda July probably being the
 most generally known) to VJs and related laptop-virtuosos to multi-projector
 performance using actual film. And so much interesting stuff in between.
 IT's kind of hard to point to resources about performance cinema generally
 because there are so many types, and they each have their own independent
 culture, dialog, community, etc.
 
 As for software programs allowing one to mix and edit live, there are oodles
 of them, but as the VJ market drives them they often have infuriating
 limitations (along with amazing possibilities) - for example, I use modul8
 quite a bit, chosen primarily for image quality and speed, but in order to
 get a clip to play once and then stop not on a freeze frame but end on black
 I have to either make a special version of it with a black frame at the end
 or be very quick with a fader or button on a midi controller. And no
 timecode-accurate markers, blah blah blah... but this type of software is
 getting better by the minute.
 
 VDMX5 is currently in public beta and looks VERY promising:
 www.vidvox.net
 
 Brook
 
 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 
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Re: [videoblogging] You can ask to have your Revver Videos removed from Zango's site

2007-08-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm curious, if you are using Revver,  why would you not want your  
Revver videos to be spread around and posted on other sites?


Tim

Tim Street
Creator/Executive Producer
French Maid TV
The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
http://frenchmaidtv.com
Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes

MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/






On Aug 27, 2007, at 3:25 PM, bestdamntechshow wrote:

 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/08/27/the-final-word-on-zango-and- 
 revver/

 Zango is a site that forces you to install software to view videos.
 It's bull, and Zango has a checkered past.

 But this isn't to stir stuff up, Revver responded, and if you don't
 want your videos to show up on Zango, just tell Revver.

 _drew olanoff
 http://b.drewolanoff.com


 



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Mark Shea
Thanks Steve, I've saved all the emails from this thread for future resource

Mark
overlander.tv

Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Ahh I 
remembered what I was thinking of, its not online but rather an app:
 
 http://www.neuromixer.com/product-avdrum.php#
 
 I recommend watching the demo video on that page to get an idea of
 just one possible technique, in this case with clips of video treated
 like audio samples, and then sequenced or triggered live using midi
 equipment, or both.
 
 The control aspect of a VJ setup is interesting. A lot of software
 supports midi, so we are talking about lots of interesting audio
 hardware, from keyboards to drum machines to sequencers,. Game
 controllers can be setup to send midi instead, so you could use
 steering wheels, joysticks, wii controllers, etc. Or just a keyboard
 and mouse.
 
 Brook's advice about formats is very good, depending on what you are
 trying to do, this stuff can take a lot of power, so optimising clips
 to be used live is an important part of the art.
 
 Anyways, yeah vjcentral and vjforums are good resources that could be
 a little daunting, by way of disclaimer I currently host those sites
 on my server, although I am even more useless at being an active VJ
 than I am about videoblogging. Same old story really, too much time
 talking about the tools  tech, not enough actually doing it.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  Here's a few more on the programming side of things:
  
   for Windows:
  http://www..org/tiki-index.php
  
  Nodebox for Mac:
  http://nodebox.net/code/index.php/Home
  
  For the non-programming-minded, heres a few recent VJ apps that are
  free and fairly new, I havent had a chance to try them myself yet:
  
  http://www.quasecinema.org/
  
  http://www.beatharness.com/
  
  That last one is more like an automatic generator, like the music
  visualizers you've probably seen elsewhere.
  
  Argh Im currently going round in circles because I thought I saw an
  online video drum machine once upoon a time but I cant remember what
  it was called, or maybe I dreamt it.
  
  and going back to what I said earlier, from the non-live online video
  remixing side of things, I keep forgetting about sites like
  eyespot.com, which I still havent got round to trying.
  
  Cheers
  
  Steve Elbows
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhinton@ wrote:
  
   Oh and more for the programming-minded: Quartz Composer (free in the
  Apple
   Developer Tools) and Processing are two free options for building
  your own
   live video applications.
   
   vjcentral.com has good forums discussing this stuff - keep in mind its
   mostly from the point of view of live vj use.
   
   Brook
   
   
   
   
   -- 
   ___
   Brook Hinton
   film/video/audio art
   www.brookhinton.com
   
   
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[videoblogging] Re: You can ask to have your Revver Videos removed from Zango's site

2007-08-27 Thread bestdamntechshow
Tim,

This particular site, Zango, requires visitors to download software to
view the videos.  Zango's software has been proven to be spyware many
times in the past:

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/11/zango.shtm

I just personally don't want someone to find scriggity on zango and
then install a software that they can't get off of their computer,
when it's completely unnecessary to do so :)

_drew

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I'm curious, if you are using Revver,  why would you not want your  
 Revver videos to be spread around and posted on other sites?
 
 
 Tim
 
 Tim Street
 Creator/Executive Producer
 French Maid TV
 The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids
 http://frenchmaidtv.com
 Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
 
 MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2007, at 3:25 PM, bestdamntechshow wrote:
 
  http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/08/27/the-final-word-on-zango-and- 
  revver/
 
  Zango is a site that forces you to install software to view videos.
  It's bull, and Zango has a checkered past.
 
  But this isn't to stir stuff up, Revver responded, and if you don't
  want your videos to show up on Zango, just tell Revver.
 
  _drew olanoff
  http://b.drewolanoff.com
 
 
  
 
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[videoblogging] Re: Live!

2007-08-27 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 27/8/07 Steve Watkins mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: 
Live! that:
Ive always had a fascination with the idea of video instruments, with
video being created and manipulated in the same ways as music; mixing,
sampling, sequencing, and synthesizing.

David Wolf (who has just submitted his Master's here at RMIT) has 
made 'vidgets' that he conceives of as video instruments. all of his 
stuff has been available online (the more recent ones are all made 
using Quartz Composer and then XTools to add an interface and make 
them cocoa apps). URL: http://dpwolf.net/blog/  but the blog is in 
the process of migrating, and he's busy preparing for his project 
examination
-- 
cheers
Adrian Miles
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[videoblogging] flash h264 3D test

2007-08-27 Thread Steve Watkins
Ive been messing around with papervision3d stuff for flash.

This rather pointless demo will only run if you have the flash beta
player installed, as the video is a h264, and it will probably use too
much cpu:

http://www.unquack.com/testing3d.html

It uses the same 960x540 h264 video as my previous tests, though
performance is way down due to the 3d stuff.

I am going to experiment to see if there is a useful way to use a
little 3D when making a flash vlog/blog viewer, well thats the plan
anyway, I have to learn flash  actionscript from near scratch so this
project will probably take me too long, lets see if I stick to it for
once.

Cheers

Steve Elbows



Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jason Calacanis thinks you'll love Mahalo Follow

2007-08-27 Thread Sull
yeah but... chill out.
you all have received much wore spam.
and jason is a member of this group, even if only during promotional
periods
regardless, i'd rather be notified about a legitimate concept such as mahalo
rather than the thousands of true spam examples.  lighten up.

automation does not equal spam.  it may be less than desirable, but it aint
spam.
at least not this time.

sull

On 8/27/07, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Exactly. Kinda sad to see that they have resorted to this to try and
 get people to the site.


 On Aug 27, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Bill Streeter wrote:

  It's spam because he's using this list to promote something that is
  not even remotely related to the subject of this list. Spam doesn't
  have to be robot generated to be spam. Spam are unsolicited
  promotional emails period.
 
  Bill Streeter
  LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
  www.lofistl.com
  www.billstreeter.net
 
  --- In
  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 bordercollieaustralianshepherd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Not spam though it looks like it. He is the owner or at least their
   best employee.
  
   *Please Note: Mahalo full-time staff are not eligible to win
  contest
   prizes
  
   http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/leaderboard/ftg
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 jason@ wrote:
   
Jason Calacanis (jason@) has invited you to try Mahalo Follow, a
   browser extension for Firefox that helps you find better search
   results. You can download the extension here:
   
http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
   
Mahalo is a human-powered search engine that creates organized,
   comprehensive, and spam-free search results for the most popular
   search terms. Mahalo's search results only include great links.
   
Mahalo results are amazing and the Mahalo Follow browser
  extension
   lets you see human-powered results right next to Google and Yahoo's
   results so you can judge for yourself!
   
All you have to do is install Mahalo Follow and continue to use
  your
   current search engine. Mahalo Follow will make sure you never miss
   great Mahalo results.
   
Here's the link again:
http://greenhouse.mahalo.com/Special:FollowDownload?id=9
   
   
Learn more about Mahalo: www.mahalo.com/Mahalo_FAQ
   
  
 
 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] flash h264 3D test

2007-08-27 Thread Sull
naddahiccup

On 8/27/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Ive been messing around with papervision3d stuff for flash.

 This rather pointless demo will only run if you have the flash beta
 player installed, as the video is a h264, and it will probably use too
 much cpu:

 http://www.unquack.com/testing3d.html

 It uses the same 960x540 h264 video as my previous tests, though
 performance is way down due to the 3d stuff.

 I am going to experiment to see if there is a useful way to use a
 little 3D when making a flash vlog/blog viewer, well thats the plan
 anyway, I have to learn flash  actionscript from near scratch so this
 project will probably take me too long, lets see if I stick to it for
 once.

 Cheers

 Steve Elbows

  



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[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11 Beta (Ogg support share video) available

2007-08-27 Thread Enric
The main features of this release is being able to play Ogg video with
the included cortado Ogg player.  And on wordpress you can share the
embed code of your videos so viewers can embed the video on their sites.

To download only vPIP go to:

http://vpip.org/

and select the document page for where you'll be installing vPIP.

To download this version of vPIP with ShowInABox go to:

http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/

and get The Whole Enchilada

For usage instruction see:

http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_vPIP
http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion
and
http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Playing_Flash

About vPIP
--
vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after
the viewer clicks on the link.

Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the
viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking
on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one.

The supported video (and audio) formats are:

* Quicktime
o .mov
o .mp4
o .mp3 (audio)
o .smi or .smil
o .3gp
* Windows Media
o .avi
o .wmv
o .asf
o .wma (audio)
* Flash
o .swf
o .flv
o Ogg
o .ogg


;),

Enric
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http://www.cirne.com
http://www.vpip.org



[videoblogging] what's best anti-virus software for Vista

2007-08-27 Thread Irene Duma
Hi all,

Mac person here and I just got a new PC laptop for cross-browser testing.

Any suggestions on what is the  best anti-virus for Vista?

I used to use Trend Micro PC-cillan a few years back. It didn¹t slow down
Windows XP,  but not sure what¹s best for Vista. Thanks.





Irene Duma
Strange Duck Media
...a good egg

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
T 416-769-1879
C 416-535-0652


web design and creative marketing
blogging biz stuff http://www.strangeduck.com/blog
and comedy at http://www.bittertonic.com






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Re: [videoblogging] what's best anti-virus software for Vista

2007-08-27 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello Irene,


On 8/27/07, Irene Duma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

  Mac person here and I just got a new PC laptop for cross-browser testing.

  Any suggestions on what is the  best anti-virus for Vista?

  I used to use Trend Micro PC-cillan a few years back. It didn¹t slow down
  Windows XP,  but not sure what¹s best for Vista. Thanks.

I know a number of people who use ClamWin...

http://www.clamwin.com/

I use it too on my Windows machines.


-- 
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