Re: [videoblogging] Re: vPIP 1.11 Beta (Ogg support share video) available

2007-09-03 Thread Irina
jay you are SO wrong.
its a 12 year old kid, not a 17 year old kid!
get your facts right.
free john johansen!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Johansen

On 9/1/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think people want, more than anything, the choice.
  The thing people hate about DRM is it being forced on them and
  limiting their fair use rights.
  I think that letting content creators choose how to publish their
  content is the way forward. DRM is never going to be a one size fits
  all solution to the problem. At the end of the day, even DRM is a
  tool that is useful to some people and will continue to be in the
  future.
  I would hope that no platform provider takes an absolute stance on
  the issue, but allows creators the freedom to build their content and
  their business model in a way that makes sense for them.

 Here's the real story: DRM doesnt work.
 companies spend thousands of hours building it, and millions of
 dollars implementing it.
 They do it through software and hardware.
 Then some 17 year old kids spend a weekend to crack it.

 So Richard's advice for blip to not waste time on DRM is a good one.
 if someone wants something bad enough, they're going to get it.

 We have Creative Commons licenses.
 Its clear...and its about trusting people to be smart and respectful.

 I dont need DRM to lock down my videos.
 Let's say someone grabs my videos and starts making millions of
 dollars
 first, I'd be pretty impressed...but then i'd hire a lawyer to take care
 of it.
 If someone is just being a dick by disrespecting my CC license, Ill
 let the community know.
 ultimately, if someone is a dick and doesnt care about reputation, not
 much i can do.

 But DRM is not for you and me.DRM is built for business.
 they want to make sure the little people dont get their greasy hands
 on their content.
 everyone is suspect. everyone is a criminal.
 forget creating goodwill with the people who keep them rolling in cash.
 people must be stopped.
 stop.

 jay

 --
 http://jaydedman.com
 917 371 6790
  




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Re: [videoblogging] NEW My Urban Report - feedback appreciated

2007-09-03 Thread Irina
hey i loved swamp ride!

On 8/31/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hey folks, I finally have a design to be proud of (I think). If you
 have a moment please visit the newly revamped www.myurbanreport.com.
 I'd appreciate any feedback. Videos can be viewed on the My Urban
 Report TV button. Let me know what you think!

 PEACE!!

 Amani Channel
 www.myurbanreport.com
 http://myurbanreport.blip.tv

  




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[videoblogging] Re: vPIP 1.11 Beta (Ogg support share video) available

2007-09-03 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
 jay you are SO wrong.
 its a 12 year old kid, not a 17 year old kid!

2007 - 1983 = 24 doh!
Jon Lech Johansen (born November 18, 1983 in Harstad, Norway)

:-)


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jay you are SO wrong.
 its a 12 year old kid, not a 17 year old kid!
 get your facts right.
 free john johansen!
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Johansen
 
 On 9/1/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I think people want, more than anything, the choice.
   The thing people hate about DRM is it being forced on them and
   limiting their fair use rights.
   I think that letting content creators choose how to publish their
   content is the way forward. DRM is never going to be a one size fits
   all solution to the problem. At the end of the day, even DRM is a
   tool that is useful to some people and will continue to be in the
   future.
   I would hope that no platform provider takes an absolute stance on
   the issue, but allows creators the freedom to build their
content and
   their business model in a way that makes sense for them.
 
  Here's the real story: DRM doesnt work.
  companies spend thousands of hours building it, and millions of
  dollars implementing it.
  They do it through software and hardware.
  Then some 17 year old kids spend a weekend to crack it.
 
  So Richard's advice for blip to not waste time on DRM is a good one.
  if someone wants something bad enough, they're going to get it.
 
  We have Creative Commons licenses.
  Its clear...and its about trusting people to be smart and respectful.
 
  I dont need DRM to lock down my videos.
  Let's say someone grabs my videos and starts making millions of
  dollars
  first, I'd be pretty impressed...but then i'd hire a lawyer to
take care
  of it.
  If someone is just being a dick by disrespecting my CC license, Ill
  let the community know.
  ultimately, if someone is a dick and doesnt care about reputation, not
  much i can do.
 
  But DRM is not for you and me.DRM is built for business.
  they want to make sure the little people dont get their greasy hands
  on their content.
  everyone is suspect. everyone is a criminal.
  forget creating goodwill with the people who keep them rolling in
cash.
  people must be stopped.
  stop.
 
  jay
 
  --
  http://jaydedman.com
  917 371 6790
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 http://geekentertainment.tv
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vPIP 1.11 Beta (Ogg support share video) availabl

2007-09-03 Thread Irina
when he was charged with his crime he was about 12
from what i remember. jon told me his father had to get him
from school to take him to court.
:)

On 9/3/07, bordercollieaustralianshepherd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

jay you are SO wrong.
  its a 12 year old kid, not a 17 year old kid!

 2007 - 1983 = 24 doh!
 Jon Lech Johansen (born November 18, 1983 in Harstad, Norway)

 :-)

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  jay you are SO wrong.
  its a 12 year old kid, not a 17 year old kid!
  get your facts right.
  free john johansen!
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Johansen
 
  On 9/1/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I think people want, more than anything, the choice.
The thing people hate about DRM is it being forced on them and
limiting their fair use rights.
I think that letting content creators choose how to publish their
content is the way forward. DRM is never going to be a one size fits
all solution to the problem. At the end of the day, even DRM is a
tool that is useful to some people and will continue to be in the
future.
I would hope that no platform provider takes an absolute stance on
the issue, but allows creators the freedom to build their
 content and
their business model in a way that makes sense for them.
  
   Here's the real story: DRM doesnt work.
   companies spend thousands of hours building it, and millions of
   dollars implementing it.
   They do it through software and hardware.
   Then some 17 year old kids spend a weekend to crack it.
  
   So Richard's advice for blip to not waste time on DRM is a good one.
   if someone wants something bad enough, they're going to get it.
  
   We have Creative Commons licenses.
   Its clear...and its about trusting people to be smart and respectful.
  
   I dont need DRM to lock down my videos.
   Let's say someone grabs my videos and starts making millions of
   dollars
   first, I'd be pretty impressed...but then i'd hire a lawyer to
 take care
   of it.
   If someone is just being a dick by disrespecting my CC license, Ill
   let the community know.
   ultimately, if someone is a dick and doesnt care about reputation, not
   much i can do.
  
   But DRM is not for you and me.DRM is built for business.
   they want to make sure the little people dont get their greasy hands
   on their content.
   everyone is suspect. everyone is a criminal.
   forget creating goodwill with the people who keep them rolling in
 cash.
   people must be stopped.
   stop.
  
   jay
  
   --
   http://jaydedman.com
   917 371 6790
  
  
 
 
 
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  http://geekentertainment.tv
 
 
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[videoblogging] Wreck Salvage 2

2007-09-03 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
We took the summer off to travel and make lots of love, but we've returned
and ass-kicking video will be pouring out every Monday.

Our season two premiere, some $0.50 technology:
http://office.wreckandsalvage.com/video/technology/

Straight up gangsta shit. Scavenging real and make believe fembots, virtual
groping, and computer-generated anatomy to explore the representation of
women in hip hop and geekdom.

If you enjoy it, subscribe:
http://office.wreckandsalvage.com/subscribe

That is all.

-- 
Adam Quirk
Wreck  Salvage
551.208.4644
Brooklyn, NY
http://wreckandsalvage.com


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[videoblogging] Re: NEW My Urban Report - feedback appreciated

2007-09-03 Thread Rebecca
Great new look, Amani! I really like your work too. 

Rebecca
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.cookingupastory.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey folks, I finally have a design to be proud of (I think).  If you 
 have a moment please visit the newly revamped www.myurbanreport.com.  
 I'd appreciate any feedback.  Videos can be viewed on the My Urban 
 Report TV button. Let me know what you think!
 
 PEACE!!
 
 Amani Channel
 www.myurbanreport.com
 http://myurbanreport.blip.tv




Re: [videoblogging] Re: If you conduct interviews, I would like your opinion

2007-09-03 Thread Ed Smith
Hi Robert, wow, what a great list of things to do/not do in order to conduct
a knockout interview.  You really hit on some good stuff there.  I like the
point of clarifying jargon with the point of view of the listener in mind.
You see that missed so many times I know we all need to hear that again and
again.

I just added a post to the
http://www.conductknockoutbroadcastinterviews.com/blog/ that suggests we
move our dress code up a notch when doing interviews that the guest and/or
listeners will not see.  I think our dress affects our performance in subtle
ways and will help us focus on the things you have suggested.

OK, Robert, thanks for that great info, and please continue to offer
suggestions, comments, etc.

Edward W. Smith.

On 9/2/07, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I've interviewed many of tech's biggest names (Gates, Schwartz,
 Chambers,
 Ballmer, etc) for my video show, ScobleShow.com.

 Some things I've learned:

 1) Don't go for gotcha questions. These people all are very astute at
 answering questions (at Microsoft they prepare execs for the press by
 doing
 rude QA sessions). They'll turn your rudest question into something
 they
 want to ask. That strategy never works and usually ensures you won't be
 invited back.

 2) Instead, ask at least one question they've never been asked before.
 With Gates I knew he'd been asked any question I could come up with so I
 turned it around: asked him what he'd ask the world's richest guy if he
 were
 in my position.

 3) Do your homework. Know what your interviewee will probably say
 BEFORE he/she says it.

 4) Listen. My best questions came AFTER they said something and I asked
 for more in depth. Best followup? Why do you say that?

 5) If you hear jargon ask them to clarify. Often times this brings up
 some interesting stuff. For instance, if I were interviewing Marc
 Zuckerberg, founder of Facebook, and he talked about the social graph
 I'd
 ask some of my listeners don't know what you mean by 'social graph', can
 you give us a short definition and explain what you mean by that?

 6) Have a thesis for the interview. If you interview someone
 interesting there are 100 ways you could take the interview. I'd focus it
 on
 one theme and try to get them to tell a story with your questions. Lead
 them
 down a path. If you're asking Gates about how he took over the operating
 system business, for instance, I'd ask him a question about his high
 school/college experience, then early days at Microsoft, then ask about
 the
 DOS purchase, etc etc.

 7) Have an outline of questions to ask, particularly if you'll be
 nervous. With Gates I started out very nervous, but then I calmed down and
 my brain started working again. That's when you can start having a
 conversation and not just going off of your prepared questions.

 8) Listen, listen, listen. I always look my interviewer in the eyes and
 try to give them 110% of my attention. That leads to a better interview.
 When I'm distracted or not totally focused for some reason I find
 interviews
 don't get as interesting.

 9) Start out with stupider questions just to get you both going. That's
 why I ask EVERY INTERVIEW who are you? and what do you do? Those two
 questions aren't really all that important, but they both get us going and
 also give your heart a chance to calm down (if you're interviewing someone
 famous) and also get you into the listening mode. Often times people will
 say something interesting in response to the what do you do? question.
 John Chambers, CEO at Cisco, for instance, talked about his being a
 father.
 That opened up a part of his life that makes for great conversations.

 10) Listen, listen, listen. It's amazing when I listen to podcasts and I
 can tell the interviewer isn't really listening and isn't asking for
 clarification of jargon, or more depth on something really interesting
 that
 was put on the table. Can you explain more about what you mean by that?
 I
 really hate it when an interviewer is clearly NOT having a conversation
 and,
 rather, only has 10 questions that were prepared and is rushing to get
 through those. Use your prepared questions as a guideline, or a way to
 start
 a conversation but DO NOT be a slave to them. That's the quickest way to a
 boring interview that sounds stiff and stupid. (out of 600 interviews I've
 done I've only gone into two with prepared questions for just that
 reason).
 PR people, by the way, will ask for your questions in advance. I always
 answer that I don't prepare questions in advance, but will give them some
 examples of things I'd like to talk about. Again, talk about themes, not
 specifics. I'd like to talk with Steve Jobs about the development of the
 iPhone and the design process that led to that.

 Hope these help you with your questions.

 Robert

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[videoblogging] new RyanIsHungry.com with Show-In-A-Box awesomeness

2007-09-03 Thread ryanne hodson
hey all

we're proud to announce our site re-design, not only because it looks darn
cool
it also has a lot of cool functionality that the crew at
http://ShowInABox.tv have been building.

http://ryanishungry.com

these are our new, fancy SIAB features:


   - Sidebars! Yes we finally have sidebars! Two of them!
   - Related and Recent Videos Plug-In, part of the Video Press Suite
   (soon to be public).
   - An Ogg Theora http://www.theora.org/theorafaq.html#10 Video option
   and RSS feed http://feeds.feedburner.com/ryanishungry/ogg for all
   you FOSS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSS fans
   - A blog category http://ryanishungry.com/category/blog/ so we can
   keep you updated on cool stuff in good old fashioned TEXT (and sometimes
   revlogged video)!
   - Share code so you can re-blog easily!
   - Fancy new Hire Us http://ryanishungry.com/hire-us/ page with video
   pop ups of videos we got paid money for…and some that we did for fun!
   - New Design by Cheryl http://hummingcrow.com/!

check it out!
go subscribe!
http://ryanishungry.com/subscribe/

if you want to be a part of building Show In A Box
joins the email list here:

http://groups.google.com/group/show-in-a-box

cheers!
-ryanne and jay

-- 
Me  http://RyanEdit.com
Twitter--http://twitter.com/Ryanne
Documenting Green http://RyanIsHungry.com
Educate  http://FreeVlog.org
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Re: [videoblogging] new RyanIsHungry.com with Show-In-A-Box awesomeness

2007-09-03 Thread Jay dedman
 we're proud to announce our site re-design, not only because it looks darn
 cool
 it also has a lot of cool functionality that the crew at
 http://ShowInABox.tv have been building.
 http://ryanishungry.com

and just so its clear...everything we did came from the work the group
has been doing.
its all free for everyone to use and change.
Cheryl Colan did all our custom CSS styling...but all the
functionality comes from the group's  theme design and the new plugins
that Charles and Enric made.

we now have a lot of documentation to do (like
freevlog.org/tutorial)but hopefully you can see how we can do
anything we want with WP.
http://groups.google.com/group/show-in-a-box
join up and lets make your dream vlog.

Jay


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[videoblogging] Re: new RyanIsHungry.com with Show-In-A-Box awesomeness

2007-09-03 Thread Bill Cammack
Great Design! :D

Nice work, Cheryl, on the two sidebars!

--
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http://realfans.tv


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ryanne hodson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hey all
 
 we're proud to announce our site re-design, not only because it
looks darn
 cool
 it also has a lot of cool functionality that the crew at
 http://ShowInABox.tv have been building.
 
 http://ryanishungry.com
 
 these are our new, fancy SIAB features:
 
 
- Sidebars! Yes we finally have sidebars! Two of them!
- Related and Recent Videos Plug-In, part of the Video Press Suite
(soon to be public).
- An Ogg Theora http://www.theora.org/theorafaq.html#10 Video
option
and RSS feed http://feeds.feedburner.com/ryanishungry/ogg for all
you FOSS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSS fans
- A blog category http://ryanishungry.com/category/blog/ so we can
keep you updated on cool stuff in good old fashioned TEXT (and
sometimes
revlogged video)!
- Share code so you can re-blog easily!
- Fancy new Hire Us http://ryanishungry.com/hire-us/ page with
video
pop ups of videos we got paid money for…and some that we did for fun!
- New Design by Cheryl http://hummingcrow.com/!
 
 check it out!
 go subscribe!
 http://ryanishungry.com/subscribe/
 
 if you want to be a part of building Show In A Box
 joins the email list here:
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/show-in-a-box
 
 cheers!
 -ryanne and jay
 
 -- 
 Me  http://RyanEdit.com
 Twitter--http://twitter.com/Ryanne
 Documenting Green http://RyanIsHungry.com
 Educate  http://FreeVlog.org
 iChat/AIM  VideoRodeo
 
 
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[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11b Beta maintenance release

2007-09-03 Thread Enric
A bug in the Wordpress version of vPIP was found that can appear under
some circumstances where older posts have the vPIP Vlogsplosion
entries messed up.  This has been fixed in the 1.11b release now
available.  If you installed a version after 1.10 and before 1.11b,
it's advised to install this release.  

vPIP wordpress download and install page:

http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Wordpress_Install

included with ShowInABox:

http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/

   ;),

Enric



[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11d Beta maintenance release (was Re: vPIP 1.11b Beta...)

2007-09-03 Thread Enric
Oops, that should have said vPIP 1.11d Beta maintenance release

  ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A bug in the Wordpress version of vPIP was found that can appear under
 some circumstances where older posts have the vPIP Vlogsplosion
 entries messed up.  This has been fixed in the 1.11b release now
 available.  If you installed a version after 1.10 and before 1.11b,
 it's advised to install this release.  
 
 vPIP wordpress download and install page:
 
 http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Wordpress_Install
 
 included with ShowInABox:
 
 http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/
 
;),
 
 Enric





[videoblogging] Re: new RyanIsHungry.com with Show-In-A-Box awesomeness

2007-09-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Wonderful features, stunning visual design :)

Woo, the videopres features look like a vital set of features that,
combined with vpip and all the other elements, certainly mean this
ShowInaBox is evolving into far more than than a mildly pumped-up
wordpress.

It is more than a tad glorious to see such an open project within this
community. I missed those early days when there were more projects
here on this list that were being thrown together and shared,
something rather lost when things like FireAnt went more closed and
commercial. Now I dont need to slump sadly on a nostalgia cushion, I
can worship at the shrine of ShowInABox and all the fine humans who
have made it happen.

Open Source, its one of the saner ideas humans have had in our
lifetimes, and I sing glorious praise to those who have melded it with
videoblogging for the betterment of all who may want it.

Wow that site is such a great demonstration of the power of a really
strong design to add the final polish to a cool set of features. ++9
on the niceometer.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Great Design! :D
 
 Nice work, Cheryl, on the two sidebars!
 
 --
 billcammack
 http://realfans.tv
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ryanne hodson
 ryanne.hodson@ wrote:
 
  hey all
  
  we're proud to announce our site re-design, not only because it
 looks darn
  cool
  it also has a lot of cool functionality that the crew at
  http://ShowInABox.tv have been building.
  
  http://ryanishungry.com
  
  these are our new, fancy SIAB features:
  
  
 - Sidebars! Yes we finally have sidebars! Two of them!
 - Related and Recent Videos Plug-In, part of the Video Press Suite
 (soon to be public).
 - An Ogg Theora http://www.theora.org/theorafaq.html#10 Video
 option
 and RSS feed http://feeds.feedburner.com/ryanishungry/ogg for all
 you FOSS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSS fans
 - A blog category http://ryanishungry.com/category/blog/ so
we can
 keep you updated on cool stuff in good old fashioned TEXT (and
 sometimes
 revlogged video)!
 - Share code so you can re-blog easily!
 - Fancy new Hire Us http://ryanishungry.com/hire-us/ page with
 video
 pop ups of videos we got paid money for…and some that we did
for fun!
 - New Design by Cheryl http://hummingcrow.com/!
  
  check it out!
  go subscribe!
  http://ryanishungry.com/subscribe/
  
  if you want to be a part of building Show In A Box
  joins the email list here:
  
  http://groups.google.com/group/show-in-a-box
  
  cheers!
  -ryanne and jay
  
  -- 
  Me  http://RyanEdit.com
  Twitter--http://twitter.com/Ryanne
  Documenting Green http://RyanIsHungry.com
  Educate  http://FreeVlog.org
  iChat/AIM  VideoRodeo
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] The Vlog Europe Vids are trickling in...

2007-09-03 Thread Jay dedman
 Take a look at: http://blip.tv/posts?search=vlogeurope07

europe represent.
Here is the Flickr stream for Vlogeurope 2007:
http://flickr.com/search/?w=allq=vlogeurope+2007m=text

more pictures please.

Jay

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[videoblogging] Free tools for filmmakers

2007-09-03 Thread Jay dedman
this site is aimed more at people making movies...but might be handy
for some people on this list:
http://www.dependentfilms.net/files.html

Downloadable forms, script software, and releases.

jay

-- 
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917 371 6790

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[videoblogging] FlashMeeting on videoblogging tonight

2007-09-03 Thread Harold
Happy Labor Day, everyone --

It's been a hot one out here on the west coast, hundred-plus degree 
weather and all that.  So I've waited 'til it's cooled off a bit 
before setting up tonight's FlashMeeting.  This past Saturday we had 
a FlashMeeting earlier in the day, and it got so hot my PC actually 
shut down in the middle of the meeting.  (My A/C doesn't work so 
well).

Tonight's meeting will last for approximately 90 minutes, beginning 
now (8:30 PM Pacific, 11:30 PM Eastern).  Again, I know it's a bit 
late, but it's early in some parts of the world!  So come join the 
meeting; tonight's discussion will be about the latest videoblogging 
projects.  So check in and let us know about what projects you're 
currently working on, or what new videoblogging tools have surfaced, 
or whatever's else in the videoblogging world has caught your 
attention lately.

Join the meeting at:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/49b209-9766

I'll do my best to stay awake with ya!

Harold



Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging videoconference for 6 hours today! VlogEurope welcomed!

2007-09-03 Thread Harold Johnson
Thanks for the tips, John.  I'm still getting booted from FlashMeeting quite
frequently -- any idea why this would occur?  I seem to have a decent DSL
connection.  In fact, just webcasted for an hour just prior to my
FlashMeeting tonight (it's Monday), and don't believe I had any problems
uploading that.  (Of course, that was audio, and so I probably didn't push
nearly as many bits out as with the video FlashMeeting.)

Harold

On 9/2/07, johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Thanks for stepping up to the plate on vlog meeting setup.

 I think Sandy Markus does the VoxMedia Wiki where the meetings used to
 be posted. Perhaps he can repost that page. I found it very useful as
 an index to past vlog meetings going back a couple of years.

 When you book a FlashMeeting be sure to check the Syndicate the
 recording and Make the live meeting public boxes, which assures the
 meeting goes out on the RSS feed, and is listed in Public
 FlashMeetings.

 When you post the URL to the meeting, be sure it goes to the Meeting
 Details webpage, in the format like this:

 http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/??-

 from this page others will have access to the meeting and the replay
 afterwards.

 take care, do good works and keep in touch

 John
 by hammer and hand great works do stand
 by cam and light he shoots it right

 www.HistoricHomeWorks.com

  



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[videoblogging] Invite from Andy Roberts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

2007-09-03 Thread Andy Roberts
AndyRoberts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
has invited you as a friend on Quechup... 
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