[videoblogging] Sony Vegas v. Final Cut

2008-03-04 Thread danielmcvicar
I saw the thread asking about Sony Vegas compression...and I have been 
wondering for some 
time what are some opinions regarding a comparison of Sony Vegas and Final Cut.

I know Sony Vegas is PC only, but I heard that it has a faster work flow.

Who has worked with both, and what are your opinions?

Thanks
Daniel






Re: [videoblogging] Sony Vegas v. Final Cut

2008-03-04 Thread Ron Watson
I cut my teeth on Vegas, back when it was sonic foundry. It was  
awesome in terms of workflow and simplicity. I've just started to use  
FCP, but it's not really comparable.

Vegas is like a super professional iMovie with pro audio and  
extremely flexible titling built in.

I think it's better than final cut by far, but have not seen the  
latest and greatest.

I'd create a dedicated PC workstation running Vegas if I had the money.

Cheers,

Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Mar 4, 2008, at 3:07 AM, danielmcvicar wrote:

 I saw the thread asking about Sony Vegas compression...and I have  
 been wondering for some
 time what are some opinions regarding a comparison of Sony Vegas  
 and Final Cut.

 I know Sony Vegas is PC only, but I heard that it has a faster work  
 flow.

 Who has worked with both, and what are your opinions?

 Thanks
 Daniel


 



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Re: [videoblogging] display performer info on youtube?

2008-03-04 Thread Richard Amirault
- Original Message - 
From: Ron Watson


 Does anybody know how to display performer info on youtube?

Display performer info WHERE on Youtube?  On the video itself, or 
someplace else?

Richard Amirault
Boston, MA, USA
http://n1jdu.org
http://bostonfandom.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ 



Re: [videoblogging] display performer info on youtube?

2008-03-04 Thread Ron Watson
I thought it would display on the page.
Is it simply metadata?

Cheers,

Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Mar 4, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Richard Amirault wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Ron Watson

  Does anybody know how to display performer info on youtube?

 Display performer info WHERE on Youtube? On the video itself, or
 someplace else?

 Richard Amirault
 Boston, MA, USA
 http://n1jdu.org
 http://bostonfandom.org
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ


 



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Re: [videoblogging] Sony Vegas v. Final Cut

2008-03-04 Thread Brook Hinton
It's impossible to judge things like workflow when comparing applications
like these without knowing the specific task. How much effects work do you
do? What kind? How complex are your audio needs? Do you need to animate
masks? Are you mostly cuts only and need the fasted mouse-free interface you
can get?
There are people for whom imovie is overkill. There are people who find all
of FCP Studio together or an entire suite of Avid products to be less than
what they need, and dream of a laptop Smoke/Flame app that works in real
time (c'mon Autodesk, put some resources into Combustion!)  There are people
who do everything in After Effects and are perfectly happy without a more
targeted editing application. There are sound designers who can do most of
their work within FCP or Avid, others who wouldn't dream of anything but
Protools, others who can't imagine mixing without Logic's plugins.
Among editing pros its an Avid and FCP world, period. (that doesn't include
FCP express). But on the PC side, Vegas does get some serious respect, and
at this point that's a unique niche.

In the end, its the editor, not the app, that matters - unless the app
crashes every five minutes.


Brook



___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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[videoblogging] Videoblogger Work in NYC

2008-03-04 Thread Jay dedman
This woman contacted me about needing some videoblogging work in NYC.
Just contact her if you're interested.

Morgan Jindrich
 Online Outreach, Education and Recruitment
 Consumers Union, Publisher of Consumer Reports
 (512) 477-4431 x111
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Jay


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[videoblogging] Re: Sony Vegas v. Final Cut

2008-03-04 Thread Heath
Well, Vegas has never crashed on me, now I am not making a feature 
length film or anything, but I really like it and I would say for the 
PC I think it's the best editing software out there.  I know it does 
a lot if not all of the basic tasks that FCP does.  So maybe 
someday it will be a Vegas and FCP world  ;)

Heath
http://batmangeek.com
http://heathparks.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 It's impossible to judge things like workflow when comparing 
applications
 like these without knowing the specific task. How much effects work 
do you
 do? What kind? How complex are your audio needs? Do you need to 
animate
 masks? Are you mostly cuts only and need the fasted mouse-free 
interface you
 can get?
 There are people for whom imovie is overkill. There are people who 
find all
 of FCP Studio together or an entire suite of Avid products to be 
less than
 what they need, and dream of a laptop Smoke/Flame app that works in 
real
 time (c'mon Autodesk, put some resources into Combustion!)  There 
are people
 who do everything in After Effects and are perfectly happy without 
a more
 targeted editing application. There are sound designers who can do 
most of
 their work within FCP or Avid, others who wouldn't dream of 
anything but
 Protools, others who can't imagine mixing without Logic's plugins.
 Among editing pros its an Avid and FCP world, period. (that doesn't 
include
 FCP express). But on the PC side, Vegas does get some serious 
respect, and
 at this point that's a unique niche.
 
 In the end, its the editor, not the app, that matters - unless the 
app
 crashes every five minutes.
 
 
 Brook
 
 
 
 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Higher-Resolution YouTube Videos Currently In Testing

2008-03-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Good :) The fmt=18 ones appear to be h264 .mp4's 480x360, being played
through flash. It is possible to download them, they may be the same
versions curently being used on apple tv or iphone/ipod touch youtube
feature, not sure.

The fmt=6 one (of the dog skateboarding at least) appeared to be some
sort of higher quality .flv, I havent tried to work out what codec or res.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some great news, Youtube is taking early steps at providing higher
 quality videos.
 
 By adding a parameter onto the end of a video's URL you're able to
 watch it in a higher quality (in terms of audio and video) that is
 actually quite noticeable though not all videos have been converted at
 this point.
 
 About 15% have been converted apparently and new uploads get converted
 after a few hours.
 
 To view the higher quality versions, just add fmt=6 onto the end of
 any YouTube URL. Using the skateboarding dog as an example you would
 take the normal URL:
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0
 
 and add the fmt=6 onto the end:
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0fmt=6
 
 If the YouTube video just sits there loading then that is a sign that
 the video has not been converted to the higher resolution yet. To
 really see the difference you should view the video in full screen
 mode.
 
 Note: Alternatively you can add fmt=18 and it will play the
 high-resolution version when available, otherwise it will play the
 regular version. Here's a Greasemonkey script
 (http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/23366) that will automatically
 add fmt=18 onto the end of each YouTube URL.
 
 Source:
 http://cybernetnews.com/2008/02/29/watch-high-resolution-youtube-videos/





Re: [videoblogging] Fwd: Rush Limbaugh urges listeners to vote for Clinton

2008-03-04 Thread Irina
oh ron, i cant take credit for that signature
it is from Partha Banerjee, a great journalist

we are only fucked if we stop trying not to be :)

On 3/3/08, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Love your signature, Irina, one of my favorites, although I read it
 differently:

 The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the
 intelligent are full of doubt.
 - Bertrand Russell [ 1872-1970 ]

 Either way, it's a great quote.

 I just read that Mark Penn, HRC's #1 is the owner of a lobbying firm
 headed by Charlie Black, John McCain's #1.

 I've not paid too much attention to politics recently because it just
 makes me crazy, but right after I read that, I found your note in my
 inbox.

 Man we're so fucked.

 Ron


 On Mar 4, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Irina wrote:

  -- Forwarded message -
 
  Rush Limbaugh has asked Americans to vote for Hillary Clinton in
  tomorrow's
  primaries.
 
  Find new story at http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
  ___
 
  The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are
  always so
  certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
 
  -Bertrand Russell
 
  ---
  You are currently subscribed to the Columbia University Graduate
  School of
  Journalism new-media-alumni list as
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Higher-Resolution YouTube Videos Currently In Testing

2008-03-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Oh I forgot to post a link to forum where this was discovered and
discussed at length, people working out what the best format to upload
is, stuff like that:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic346256.html

Oh and also apologies to everyone that my posts have had annoying line
breaks in them for months, I was posting using safari 3 via yahoo
groups web interface, which I guess was causing the problem. I didnt
notice it until Patrick pointed it out to me, cheers to him for that,
I'll use Firefox 3 beta to post and hopefully no more badly formed
messages from me.

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good :) The fmt=18 ones appear to be h264 .mp4's 480x360, being played
 through flash. It is possible to download them, they may be the same
 versions curently being used on apple tv or iphone/ipod touch youtube
 feature, not sure.
 
 The fmt=6 one (of the dog skateboarding at least) appeared to be some
 sort of higher quality .flv, I havent tried to work out what codec
or res.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp
 pdelongchamp@ wrote:
 
  Some great news, Youtube is taking early steps at providing higher
  quality videos.
  
  By adding a parameter onto the end of a video's URL you're able to
  watch it in a higher quality (in terms of audio and video) that is
  actually quite noticeable though not all videos have been converted at
  this point.
  
  About 15% have been converted apparently and new uploads get converted
  after a few hours.
  
  To view the higher quality versions, just add fmt=6 onto the end of
  any YouTube URL. Using the skateboarding dog as an example you would
  take the normal URL:
  
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0
  
  and add the fmt=6 onto the end:
  
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0fmt=6
  
  If the YouTube video just sits there loading then that is a sign that
  the video has not been converted to the higher resolution yet. To
  really see the difference you should view the video in full screen
  mode.
  
  Note: Alternatively you can add fmt=18 and it will play the
  high-resolution version when available, otherwise it will play the
  regular version. Here's a Greasemonkey script
  (http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/23366) that will automatically
  add fmt=18 onto the end of each YouTube URL.
  
  Source:
 
http://cybernetnews.com/2008/02/29/watch-high-resolution-youtube-videos/
 





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Higher-Resolution YouTube Videos Currently In Testing

2008-03-04 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
I was just going to say that your messages look better already.
Thanks for posting the link.  videohelp.com is a great site.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Oh I forgot to post a link to forum where this was discovered and
  discussed at length, people working out what the best format to upload
  is, stuff like that:

  http://forum.videohelp.com/topic346256.html

  Oh and also apologies to everyone that my posts have had annoying line
  breaks in them for months, I was posting using safari 3 via yahoo
  groups web interface, which I guess was causing the problem. I didnt
  notice it until Patrick pointed it out to me, cheers to him for that,
  I'll use Firefox 3 beta to post and hopefully no more badly formed
  messages from me.

  Steve Elbows



  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
   Good :) The fmt=18 ones appear to be h264 .mp4's 480x360, being played
   through flash. It is possible to download them, they may be the same
   versions curently being used on apple tv or iphone/ipod touch youtube
   feature, not sure.
  
   The fmt=6 one (of the dog skateboarding at least) appeared to be some
   sort of higher quality .flv, I havent tried to work out what codec
  or res.
  
   Cheers
  
   Steve Elbows
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp
   pdelongchamp@ wrote:
   
Some great news, Youtube is taking early steps at providing higher
quality videos.
   
By adding a parameter onto the end of a video's URL you're able to
watch it in a higher quality (in terms of audio and video) that is
actually quite noticeable though not all videos have been converted at
this point.
   
About 15% have been converted apparently and new uploads get converted
after a few hours.
   
To view the higher quality versions, just add fmt=6 onto the end of
any YouTube URL. Using the skateboarding dog as an example you would
take the normal URL:
   
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0
   
and add the fmt=6 onto the end:
   
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0fmt=6
   
If the YouTube video just sits there loading then that is a sign that
the video has not been converted to the higher resolution yet. To
really see the difference you should view the video in full screen
mode.
   
Note: Alternatively you can add fmt=18 and it will play the
high-resolution version when available, otherwise it will play the
regular version. Here's a Greasemonkey script
(http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/23366) that will automatically
add fmt=18 onto the end of each YouTube URL.
   
Source:
   
  http://cybernetnews.com/2008/02/29/watch-high-resolution-youtube-videos/
   
  

  


[videoblogging] Another one... Videoegg users, backup your videos

2008-03-04 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Seems Videoegg is dropping users too.  If you're a Videoegg users you'll
want to backup you videos.  (Or they'll be gone in about 3 months.)

http://newteevee.com/2008/03/04/videoegg-trims-partner-list/

-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

Motorsport Videos
http://TireBiterZ.com/

Vlog Razor... Vlogging News...  http://vlograzor.com/


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[videoblogging] Re: Higher-Resolution YouTube Videos Currently In Testing

2008-03-04 Thread danielmcvicar

that skateboarding dog looks greatyou can't even see the wires or the other 
special 
effects!  Thanks for the tip, I really appreciate it.  It looks like iphone 
versions
D
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good :) The fmt=18 ones appear to be h264 .mp4's 480x360, being played
 through flash. It is possible to download them, they may be the same
 versions curently being used on apple tv or iphone/ipod touch youtube
 feature, not sure.
 
 The fmt=6 one (of the dog skateboarding at least) appeared to be some
 sort of higher quality .flv, I havent tried to work out what codec or res.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp
 pdelongchamp@ wrote:
 
  Some great news, Youtube is taking early steps at providing higher
  quality videos.
  
  By adding a parameter onto the end of a video's URL you're able to
  watch it in a higher quality (in terms of audio and video) that is
  actually quite noticeable though not all videos have been converted at
  this point.
  
  About 15% have been converted apparently and new uploads get converted
  after a few hours.
  
  To view the higher quality versions, just add fmt=6 onto the end of
  any YouTube URL. Using the skateboarding dog as an example you would
  take the normal URL:
  
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0
  
  and add the fmt=6 onto the end:
  
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0fmt=6
  
  If the YouTube video just sits there loading then that is a sign that
  the video has not been converted to the higher resolution yet. To
  really see the difference you should view the video in full screen
  mode.
  
  Note: Alternatively you can add fmt=18 and it will play the
  high-resolution version when available, otherwise it will play the
  regular version. Here's a Greasemonkey script
  (http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/23366) that will automatically
  add fmt=18 onto the end of each YouTube URL.
  
  Source:
  http://cybernetnews.com/2008/02/29/watch-high-resolution-youtube-videos/
 






[videoblogging] Re: Sony Vegas v. Final Cut

2008-03-04 Thread danielmcvicar
Thanks Brook, Heath and everyone.

To define my question, as requested, I wanted a comparison in basic workflow 
efficiency 
for typical video.  I know that final cut is supposed to have more capability. 
I just wanted 
to hear reactions from those familiar with both and their comparisons.

As for what I am shooting, I am posting unedited direct from my telephone next 
to 
Scoble!

Hi Everyone!
D

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, Vegas has never crashed on me, now I am not making a feature 
 length film or anything, but I really like it and I would say for the 
 PC I think it's the best editing software out there.  I know it does 
 a lot if not all of the basic tasks that FCP does.  So maybe 
 someday it will be a Vegas and FCP world  ;)
 
 Heath
 http://batmangeek.com
 http://heathparks.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhinton@ 
 wrote:
 
  It's impossible to judge things like workflow when comparing 
 applications
  like these without knowing the specific task. How much effects work 
 do you
  do? What kind? How complex are your audio needs? Do you need to 
 animate
  masks? Are you mostly cuts only and need the fasted mouse-free 
 interface you
  can get?
  There are people for whom imovie is overkill. There are people who 
 find all
  of FCP Studio together or an entire suite of Avid products to be 
 less than
  what they need, and dream of a laptop Smoke/Flame app that works in 
 real
  time (c'mon Autodesk, put some resources into Combustion!)  There 
 are people
  who do everything in After Effects and are perfectly happy without 
 a more
  targeted editing application. There are sound designers who can do 
 most of
  their work within FCP or Avid, others who wouldn't dream of 
 anything but
  Protools, others who can't imagine mixing without Logic's plugins.
  Among editing pros its an Avid and FCP world, period. (that doesn't 
 include
  FCP express). But on the PC side, Vegas does get some serious 
 respect, and
  at this point that's a unique niche.
  
  In the end, its the editor, not the app, that matters - unless the 
 app
  crashes every five minutes.
  
  
  Brook
  
  
  
  ___
  Brook Hinton
  film/video/audio art
  www.brookhinton.com
  studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
  
  
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[videoblogging] TV show buying video clips

2008-03-04 Thread rmleider
Hey everyone, I'm a producer on a clip TV show and we are paying to
license footage.  We are looking for weird/odd, funny without trying
to be funny, sexy, and extreme video clips.  If you have anything like
this, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [videoblogging] Sony Vegas compression Question

2008-03-04 Thread WWWhatsup

I would recommend using the Main Concept AVC/AAC to render to mp4

You'll have to go into options and set the framesize. A bitrate of 2mpbs will
be plenty.

Then get an account at http://blip.tv  and upload. blip will convert it to 
flash (.flv)
which you can either download or embed via code to play directly from
their site.

Hope this helps.

joly


At 03:30 PM 3/3/2008, you wrote:
I was wondering if anyone out there uses sony vegas for editing.

One of my editors is using sony vegas but does not know the correct
kodak to compress/export in HD? 

I would really appreciate any help.


Thank you,
Jill





 
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[videoblogging] Re: Sony Vegas v. Final Cut

2008-03-04 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, danielmcvicar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Brook, Heath and everyone.
 
 To define my question, as requested, I wanted a comparison in basic
workflow efficiency 
 for typical video.  I know that final cut is supposed to have more
capability. I just wanted 
 to hear reactions from those familiar with both and their comparisons.

I used to swear by Final Cut until Apple screwed up with the QuickTime
7.4 update.  I think they are now too distracted by iPod and iTunes
sales and DRM issues to support video production. When it comes to
making video for the web, for many projects FCP is bloat. There is a
lot to be said for Keeping It Simple! I'm looking at alternatives. 

Stan Hirson 



Re: [videoblogging] Fwd: Rush Limbaugh urges listeners to vote for Clinton

2008-03-04 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
Yep ... My relatives in Texas, who live in a Republican district, got to the
poles and found that virtually everyone was registering for the democratic
primary.

Rush says Vote for Hillary. The strategy is to continue the chaos in this
party.  Look, there's a reason for this ... Obama needs to be bloodied up.
Look, half the country already hates Hillary.  That's good.  But nobody
hates Obama yet ... 

... Now that's the sort of logic, only a Rush Limbaugh listener would
appreciate ...

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   -- Forwarded message -

 Rush Limbaugh has asked Americans to vote for Hillary Clinton in
 tomorrow's
 primaries.

 Find new story at http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
 ___

 The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
 certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

 -Bertrand Russell

 ---
 You are currently subscribed to the Columbia University Graduate School of
 Journalism new-media-alumni list as

 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  




-- 
Richard (Show) Hall
http://richardshow.org


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[videoblogging] Re: Fwd: Rush Limbaugh urges listeners to vote for Clinton

2008-03-04 Thread Chuck
It's all very strange.

Right wing talk radio is supporting turnout for Hilary.
Hilary is supporting John McCain.
The Rovian/Clintonian smear machines are working in concert to smear 
Obama.  

I guess both save $ on their smear budgets when they work 
together...

Kinda makes me like the guy just out of respect for how out of whack 
his candidacy has made the system...


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yep ... My relatives in Texas, who live in a Republican district, 
got to the
 poles and found that virtually everyone was registering for the 
democratic
 primary.
 
 Rush says Vote for Hillary. The strategy is to continue the chaos 
in this
 party.  Look, there's a reason for this ... Obama needs to be 
bloodied up.
 Look, half the country already hates Hillary.  That's good.  But 
nobody
 hates Obama yet ... 
 
 ... Now that's the sort of logic, only a Rush Limbaugh listener 
would
 appreciate ...
 
 On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
-- Forwarded message -
 
  Rush Limbaugh has asked Americans to vote for Hillary Clinton in
  tomorrow's
  primaries.
 
  Find new story at http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
  ___
 
  The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are 
always so
  certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
 
  -Bertrand Russell
 
  ---
  You are currently subscribed to the Columbia University Graduate 
School of
  Journalism new-media-alumni list as
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Richard (Show) Hall
 http://richardshow.org
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[videoblogging] 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread Andrew Baron
The idea is that a videoblogger could make a living from just 1000  
true fans:

what can an artist do to escape the long tail?

One solution is to find 1,000 True Fans. While some artists have  
discovered this path without calling it that, I think it is worth  
trying to formalize. The gist of 1,000 True Fans can be stated simply:

A creator, such as an artist, musician, photographer, craftsperson,  
performer, animator, designer, videomaker, or author - in other  
words, anyone producing works of art - needs to acquire only 1,000  
True Fans to make a living.

A True Fan is defined as someone who will purchase anything and  
everything you produce. They will drive 200 miles to see you sing.  
They will buy the super deluxe re-issued hi-res box set of your stuff  
even though they have the low-res version. They have a Google Alert  
set for your name. They bookmark the eBay page where your out-of- 
print editions show up. They come to your openings. They have you  
sign their copies. They buy the t-shirt, and the mug, and the hat.  
They can't wait till you issue your next work. They are true fans.

http://tinyurl.com/32zzlp

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[videoblogging] Re: 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread Heath
I can't even get my family to watch my videos.but then again, 
they know me, so maybe that has something to do with it...

all kidding aside, interesting principal

Heath
http://batmangeek.com
http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The idea is that a videoblogger could make a living from just 1000  
 true fans:
 
 what can an artist do to escape the long tail?
 
 One solution is to find 1,000 True Fans. While some artists have  
 discovered this path without calling it that, I think it is worth  
 trying to formalize. The gist of 1,000 True Fans can be stated 
simply:
 
 A creator, such as an artist, musician, photographer, 
craftsperson,  
 performer, animator, designer, videomaker, or author - in other  
 words, anyone producing works of art - needs to acquire only 1,000  
 True Fans to make a living.
 
 A True Fan is defined as someone who will purchase anything and  
 everything you produce. They will drive 200 miles to see you sing.  
 They will buy the super deluxe re-issued hi-res box set of your 
stuff  
 even though they have the low-res version. They have a Google 
Alert  
 set for your name. They bookmark the eBay page where your out-of- 
 print editions show up. They come to your openings. They have you  
 sign their copies. They buy the t-shirt, and the mug, and the hat.  
 They can't wait till you issue your next work. They are true fans.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/32zzlp
 
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[videoblogging] Re: 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread johnleeke
I think this is just about right on.

I've estimated I have about 300 of what Kevin Kelly calls true fans,
and I am earning about 1/3 of my living with my self-publishing (in
print and eBooks). Over the past three years it has been my objective
to shift my position left-ward on the long-tail, increasing access
to my fans, and increasing my income, largely using interactive
video over the internet to connect more closely with those who can pay
me for my helping them care for their historic buildings. 

This past year it really seems to be working and Kevin's essay 1000
True Fans crystalizes my thinking on this and gives me new criteria
for measuring my success, and two new ways to push in that direction.

Andrew, thanks for posting this.

John
by hammer and hand great works do stand
by pen and thought best words are wrought
by cam and light he shoots it right

www.HistoricHomeWorks.com



Re: [videoblogging] Re: 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
So, what do you do when you have zero true fans?

--
Rhett.
http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime

 I think this is just about right on.

 I've estimated I have about 300 of what Kevin Kelly calls true fans,
 and I am earning about 1/3 of my living with my self-publishing (in
 print and eBooks). Over the past three years it has been my objective
 to shift my position left-ward on the long-tail, increasing access
 to my fans, and increasing my income, largely using interactive
 video over the internet to connect more closely with those who can pay
 me for my helping them care for their historic buildings.

 This past year it really seems to be working and Kevin's essay 1000
 True Fans crystalizes my thinking on this and gives me new criteria
 for measuring my success, and two new ways to push in that direction.

 Andrew, thanks for posting this.

 John
 by hammer and hand great works do stand
 by pen and thought best words are wrought
 by cam and light he shoots it right

 www.HistoricHomeWorks.com




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[videoblogging] Re: 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread johnleeke
 So, what do you do when you have zero true fans?

Find a way to help people so much, and make it so easy for them to
give you want, that they spontaneously give it to you.

John
hammer and hand
pen and thought
cam and light

www.HistoricHomeWorks.com



Re: [videoblogging] Re: 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread David Lee King
Ha - Heath, now just ask the family for $100 each and see what happens!

No, wait - it must break down with family... :-)

David

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 4, 2008, at 8:13 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't even get my family to watch my videos.but then again,
 they know me, so maybe that has something to do with it...

 all kidding aside, interesting principal

 Heath
 http://batmangeek.com
 http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The idea is that a videoblogger could make a living from just 1000
  true fans:
 
  what can an artist do to escape the long tail?
 
  One solution is to find 1,000 True Fans. While some artists have
  discovered this path without calling it that, I think it is worth
  trying to formalize. The gist of 1,000 True Fans can be stated
 simply:
 
  A creator, such as an artist, musician, photographer,
 craftsperson,
  performer, animator, designer, videomaker, or author - in other
  words, anyone producing works of art - needs to acquire only 1,000
  True Fans to make a living.
 
  A True Fan is defined as someone who will purchase anything and
  everything you produce. They will drive 200 miles to see you sing.
  They will buy the super deluxe re-issued hi-res box set of your
 stuff
  even though they have the low-res version. They have a Google
 Alert
  set for your name. They bookmark the eBay page where your out-of-
  print editions show up. They come to your openings. They have you
  sign their copies. They buy the t-shirt, and the mug, and the hat.
  They can't wait till you issue your next work. They are true fans.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/32zzlp
 
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[videoblogging] FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein

2008-03-04 Thread Jay dedman
I am in DC at a conference about online politics.
There was a great debate between FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein,
Tim Wu (my new hero), and a Bush appointee.
Here's an interesting elevator pitch from Adelstein about why Net
Neutrality is important.
http://semanal.org/2008/03/03/week-10-2008/#comment-746

Jay

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917 371 6790


[videoblogging] best practices question

2008-03-04 Thread pepa
friends: how to deal with adwords in relation with revenue sharing?

on the best practices text some of you have discussed (on pixelodeon
and before) you state:

The degree to which non-targeted ads (such as AdWords placed on the
surrounding pages) generate revenue should be balanced against the unique
services MA [media aggregators] does or does not provide the CO
[content owner] when calculating revenue
share.

could you explain a little more what you mean/think? let me give you a
link to analize this:
http://tinyurl.com/39c48j
this is a video of mine aggregated by liberatedfilms . com. see
surrounding ads. what are unique services MA provides or not in this
context.

thank you very very much in advance.

-- 
http://pepa.tv


Re: [videoblogging] Re: 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread Ron Watson
So...
How do I take my 1000 interested and somewhat engaged fans and turn  
them into 'true fans'?

A bit about my history, and what I consider to be the problem...

I've been doing online video for about 10 years now.

This video here: http://blip.tv/posts/stats/8523
has been seen by just about every Disc Dogger with an internet  
connection on the planet.

We've been teaching Dog Frisbee in North America and Europe for about  
5 years, and have a great reputation as teachers, judges and  
competitors. I started k9disc.com a Disc Dog portal and discussion  
forum about 4 years ago, and it has been quite successful.

Here's where the problem comes in:
I've been giving instruction and tips away for people for about 4  
years now, and I think that's been a bit of a problem. It seems that  
people would rather pay for an inferior product than to get a quality  
product for free.

The Disc Dog community, as a group, tends to stifle people that try  
to do things differently - especially when there's accolades of money  
involved in the equation. It's very strange. I've largely avoided  
this problem, but it's still around here in the states and it's  
developing in Europe.

So, how do I get past the 'it used to be free, now it's costing me'  
and the negative group dynamics on new ideas and projects to enable  
my 1000 interested and somewhat engaged fans and turn them into 'true  
fans'.

Just kind of tossing things out there and could use the help.

Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Mar 4, 2008, at 9:32 PM, johnleeke wrote:

 I think this is just about right on.

 I've estimated I have about 300 of what Kevin Kelly calls true fans,
 and I am earning about 1/3 of my living with my self-publishing (in
 print and eBooks). Over the past three years it has been my objective
 to shift my position left-ward on the long-tail, increasing access
 to my fans, and increasing my income, largely using interactive
 video over the internet to connect more closely with those who can pay
 me for my helping them care for their historic buildings.

 This past year it really seems to be working and Kevin's essay 1000
 True Fans crystalizes my thinking on this and gives me new criteria
 for measuring my success, and two new ways to push in that direction.

 Andrew, thanks for posting this.

 John
 by hammer and hand great works do stand
 by pen and thought best words are wrought
 by cam and light he shoots it right

 www.HistoricHomeWorks.com


 



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[videoblogging] Science Channel, Download: The True Story of the Internet

2008-03-04 Thread B Yen
Started Mon. March 3 (yesterday):

http://science.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html? 
paid=48.14998.25448.32270.2

Browser Wars
Search

Bubble
People Power

In People Power (will start in 5 minutes on Pacific/USA), they covered:

- Youtube
- Blogging
citizen journalism

I liked the programs, any one else have any input?



Re: [videoblogging] Science Channel, Download: The True Story of the Internet

2008-03-04 Thread Irina
hahah
watching this right now

On 3/4/08, B Yen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Started Mon. March 3 (yesterday):

 http://science.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?
 paid=48.14998.25448.32270.2

 Browser Wars
 Search

 Bubble
 People Power

 In People Power (will start in 5 minutes on Pacific/USA), they covered:

 - Youtube
 - Blogging
 citizen journalism

 I liked the programs, any one else have any input?

  




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http://geekentertainment.tv


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Re: [videoblogging] 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread Ron Watson
Thanks Andrew!
Great article...
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Mar 4, 2008, at 8:50 PM, Andrew Baron wrote:

 The idea is that a videoblogger could make a living from just 1000
 true fans:

 what can an artist do to escape the long tail?

 One solution is to find 1,000 True Fans. While some artists have
 discovered this path without calling it that, I think it is worth
 trying to formalize. The gist of 1,000 True Fans can be stated simply:

 A creator, such as an artist, musician, photographer, craftsperson,
 performer, animator, designer, videomaker, or author - in other
 words, anyone producing works of art - needs to acquire only 1,000
 True Fans to make a living.

 A True Fan is defined as someone who will purchase anything and
 everything you produce. They will drive 200 miles to see you sing.
 They will buy the super deluxe re-issued hi-res box set of your stuff
 even though they have the low-res version. They have a Google Alert
 set for your name. They bookmark the eBay page where your out-of-
 print editions show up. They come to your openings. They have you
 sign their copies. They buy the t-shirt, and the mug, and the hat.
 They can't wait till you issue your next work. They are true fans.

 http://tinyurl.com/32zzlp

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Re: [videoblogging] 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,

Interesting read.

I wonder how this translates when you've got nothing to sell.

Advertising seems like a possible solution (as the article mentions).
But it would be nice if video bloggers could keep more of the
advertising money.  (I think we could use an open advertising system
based on open source software.  But nothing suitable exists yet.)

Jay has been promoting the Pledge Drive business model too...

http://showinabox.tv/download/pledge-drive/

Where it's PBS style fund raising.


See ya

-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

Motorsport Videos
http://TireBiterZ.com/

Vlog Razor... Vlogging News...  http://vlograzor.com/



On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The idea is that a videoblogger could make a living from just 1000
  true fans:

  what can an artist do to escape the long tail?

  One solution is to find 1,000 True Fans. While some artists have
  discovered this path without calling it that, I think it is worth
  trying to formalize. The gist of 1,000 True Fans can be stated simply:

  A creator, such as an artist, musician, photographer, craftsperson,
  performer, animator, designer, videomaker, or author - in other
  words, anyone producing works of art - needs to acquire only 1,000
  True Fans to make a living.

  A True Fan is defined as someone who will purchase anything and
  everything you produce. They will drive 200 miles to see you sing.
  They will buy the super deluxe re-issued hi-res box set of your stuff
  even though they have the low-res version. They have a Google Alert
  set for your name. They bookmark the eBay page where your out-of-
  print editions show up. They come to your openings. They have you
  sign their copies. They buy the t-shirt, and the mug, and the hat.
  They can't wait till you issue your next work. They are true fans.

  http://tinyurl.com/32zzlp


[videoblogging] Two New Versions of Miro: Sliced by Genre

2008-03-04 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2008/03/two-new-versions-of-miro-sliced-by-genre/

Really interesting.

It would be cool if there was a way for people to somehow configure these
download all by themselves.

For example… a community could maintain their own list of video blogs.
(Using XOXO, OPML, or something.)

So… for example, if a community had a list of video blogs at:
http://example.com/thelist/

Then you could configure the download using:
http://getmiro.com/download?href=http://example.com/thelist/

(Or something like that.)

That would be really cool!


-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

Motorsport Videos
http://TireBiterZ.com/

Vlog Razor... Vlogging News...  http://vlograzor.com/


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[videoblogging] The Vlog Era Has Arrived

2008-03-04 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Vlog Blog has called it... The Vlog Era Has Arrived.

http://www.vlogblog.com/index.php/archives/2008/02/29/the-vlog-era-has-arrived/

(Via: Vlog Razor.)

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Re: [videoblogging] 1000 True Fans

2008-03-04 Thread Irina
all my fans live in germany
with like 3 of them in piscataway, nj
maybe thats the problem
lol

On 3/4/08, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hello,

 Interesting read.

 I wonder how this translates when you've got nothing to sell.

 Advertising seems like a possible solution (as the article mentions).
 But it would be nice if video bloggers could keep more of the
 advertising money. (I think we could use an open advertising system
 based on open source software. But nothing suitable exists yet.)

 Jay has been promoting the Pledge Drive business model too...

 http://showinabox.tv/download/pledge-drive/

 Where it's PBS style fund raising.

 See ya

 --
 Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
 http://ChangeLog.ca/

 Motorsport Videos
 http://TireBiterZ.com/

 Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/

 On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Andrew Baron [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]andrew%40rocketboom.com
 wrote:
 
  The idea is that a videoblogger could make a living from just 1000
  true fans:
 
  what can an artist do to escape the long tail?
 
  One solution is to find 1,000 True Fans. While some artists have
  discovered this path without calling it that, I think it is worth
  trying to formalize. The gist of 1,000 True Fans can be stated simply:
 
  A creator, such as an artist, musician, photographer, craftsperson,
  performer, animator, designer, videomaker, or author - in other
  words, anyone producing works of art - needs to acquire only 1,000
  True Fans to make a living.
 
  A True Fan is defined as someone who will purchase anything and
  everything you produce. They will drive 200 miles to see you sing.
  They will buy the super deluxe re-issued hi-res box set of your stuff
  even though they have the low-res version. They have a Google Alert
  set for your name. They bookmark the eBay page where your out-of-
  print editions show up. They come to your openings. They have you
  sign their copies. They buy the t-shirt, and the mug, and the hat.
  They can't wait till you issue your next work. They are true fans.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/32zzlp
  




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