Re: [videoblogging] Video Journalism Awards call for entries

2008-07-21 Thread Irina
NOW THIS, not the webbies, is how awards sould be run

from what i can tell, its free to enter?
and the person who wins actually gets a prize?
pease correct me if i'm wrong.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Video Journalism Awards 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Please forward to people who are interested in video journalism. Thank
 you!

 4th International Video Journalism Awards, Mainz, Germany:
 Unlimited access

 CALL FOR ENTRIES Deadline 15th of October 2008
 http://www.vjawards.com

 Go out - find a story – publish it:
 The „4th International Video Journalism Awards is calling for entries!

 The Video Journalism Awards is looking for non-fiction videos from
 single authors, the so called videojournalists (short VJs). A VJ is
 responsible for the whole creative process starting from research and
 shooting as well as covering the whole process of editing and
 sometimes even the publication of the film.
 A small camcorder and a laptop are the tools of the VJ, which is
 comparable to the pen and paper a newspaper journalist uses.

 The final deadline for entering films for the 4th International Video
 Journalism Awards is the 15th of October 2008. The awards are produced
 by vjawards.com , the host is ZDF German Television in Mainz.

 The internet is converging all kinds of media, which is reflected by
 this year's theme unlimited access. The awards try to cover all
 known fields of video journalism: films from TV-stations and
 publishing companies and productions from an independent background
 are awarded with a total of 12.000 € of prize money going to the
 seperated categories independent and online and TV production.
 Recent developements that influence the VJ-scene and future
 perspectives are discussed in the supporting programme of the 4th
 International Video Journalism Awards.

 INTERNATIONAL VIDEO JOURNALISM AWARD

 a) TV production – broadcast reports (2000 €)
 A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
 minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters,
 and which has already been broadcast.

 b) independent or online video (2000 €)
 A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
 minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters,
 but which has not necessarily been broadcast.

 GERMAN VIDEO JOURNALISM AWARD

 a) TV production - broadcast reports (2000 €)
 A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
 minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters and
 which has been aired by a German-language television channel (please
 indicate the station and broadcast date). All genres.

 b) Independent or online video (2000 €)
 A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
 minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters,
 but which has not necessarily been broadcast.

 REPORTAGE AWARD (2500 €)
 A feature report in the German language with a minimum duration of 15
 minutes and a maximum duration of 29 minutes, produced by one or more
 video journalists/video reporters, but which has not necessarily been
 broadcast.

 NEWCOMER VIDEO JOURNALISM AWARD (1000 €)
 A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
 minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters.
 The applicants must be under 30 years of age or currently enrolled in
 an institution of higher education. Those productions will be
 considered for awards whose appeal lies in a unique style of content
 or cinematography and indicate a great potential of the applicant.

 Online- audience prize (500 €)
 A specially developed open online voting system will allow the users
 to cast votes for their favorite entries.

 Special mentioning of the jury
 The jury nominates a film, that impressed them, and that might expand
 the term video journalism.

 Further information is provided on our website:
 http://www.vjawards.com

 We look forward to your submissions

 Regards from all of us,
 VJAwards.com

  




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Re: [videoblogging] Did you see my 82 year old vlogging mom on ABC World News

2008-07-21 Thread Irina
your mother is so wonderful!

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   Hi guys,

 Did you see my 82 year old vlogging mom on ABC World News?

 She writes all about it on her blog:

 http://mymomsblog.blogspot.com/

 They did an 11 minute interview with her, and on the segment she talks for
 :20 seconds.

 They also talked to her about her videoblgging, I Can't Open It, and her
 Yiddish Class, but in
 the end they just used those vlogs as b-roll

 Check it out. The interview as aired and my 11:00 minute behind hte scenes
 is on her blog...

 Thanks,
 --Steve

  




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Self-Serve

2008-07-21 Thread Irina
oh i forgot to chime in and say i'm going to do this too!

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Sheila English [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   Hi Paul!

 I would be interested. I'm always interested in checking out new things.

 Do you know Lindsey Tredent? Don't know how small the MySpace
 corporate office is, but my guess is you know her. I've worked with
 her before on a few things before she went entirely over to music.

 You can email me offlist at sheila_clover (at) yahoo.com.

 Cheers!

 Sheila
 www.myspace.com/cosbooktrailers

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Paul Armstrong

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Just putting this out there again - I think it got lost in the shuffle -
  or it's just not of interest!
 
  Guess we'll find out!
 
  P.
 
 
 

  




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Re: [videoblogging] Did you see my 82 year old vlogging mom on ABC World News

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Meiser
Millie 08'!

Millie goes viral.

I haven't kept up enough on the steve and millie. I guess I've been
missing the fun. ;)

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 your mother is so wonderful!

 On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

   Hi guys,

 Did you see my 82 year old vlogging mom on ABC World News?

 She writes all about it on her blog:

 http://mymomsblog.blogspot.com/

 They did an 11 minute interview with her, and on the segment she talks for
 :20 seconds.

 They also talked to her about her videoblgging, I Can't Open It, and her
 Yiddish Class, but in
 the end they just used those vlogs as b-roll

 Check it out. The interview as aired and my 11:00 minute behind hte scenes
 is on her blog...

 Thanks,
 --Steve






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[videoblogging] Re: Video Journalism Awards call for entries

2008-07-21 Thread Steve Garfield
How a video contest should be run, except for this part:

-- clipped part starts --

You will need Adobe Acrobat Reader to read and print this form once it is 
completed, you 
can get it here : 
 
 Be sure to fill out the form completly

 Once completed filling out the entry form, select Submit this will submit 
your 
information into our database, as well email your account email address a 
copy of the 
completed application in PDF format.

Check your email, and print your completed copy of the application, sign it, 
and place with 
your submissions.

Lastly, if you are submitting a video from a NON-European country, click here 
to download 
a Pro Forma Invoice - THIS IS A MUST, your video will be held in customs and 
not received

-- clipped part ends --


it would be a lot easier, and they'd get more submissions if they allowed us to 
wither link 
to and existing video or upload one.

It looks like  you need to mail a physical piece of media in...


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 NOW THIS, not the webbies, is how awards sould be run
 
 from what i can tell, its free to enter?
 and the person who wins actually gets a prize?
 pease correct me if i'm wrong.
 
 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Video Journalism Awards 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  Please forward to people who are interested in video journalism. Thank
  you!
 
  4th International Video Journalism Awards, Mainz, Germany:
  Unlimited access
 
  CALL FOR ENTRIES Deadline 15th of October 2008
  http://www.vjawards.com
 
  Go out - find a story – publish it:
  The „4th International Video Journalism Awards is calling for entries!
 
  The Video Journalism Awards is looking for non-fiction videos from
  single authors, the so called videojournalists (short VJs). A VJ is
  responsible for the whole creative process starting from research and
  shooting as well as covering the whole process of editing and
  sometimes even the publication of the film.
  A small camcorder and a laptop are the tools of the VJ, which is
  comparable to the pen and paper a newspaper journalist uses.
 
  The final deadline for entering films for the 4th International Video
  Journalism Awards is the 15th of October 2008. The awards are produced
  by vjawards.com , the host is ZDF German Television in Mainz.
 
  The internet is converging all kinds of media, which is reflected by
  this year's theme unlimited access. The awards try to cover all
  known fields of video journalism: films from TV-stations and
  publishing companies and productions from an independent background
  are awarded with a total of 12.000 € of prize money going to the
  seperated categories independent and online and TV production.
  Recent developements that influence the VJ-scene and future
  perspectives are discussed in the supporting programme of the 4th
  International Video Journalism Awards.
 
  INTERNATIONAL VIDEO JOURNALISM AWARD
 
  a) TV production – broadcast reports (2000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters,
  and which has already been broadcast.
 
  b) independent or online video (2000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters,
  but which has not necessarily been broadcast.
 
  GERMAN VIDEO JOURNALISM AWARD
 
  a) TV production - broadcast reports (2000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters and
  which has been aired by a German-language television channel (please
  indicate the station and broadcast date). All genres.
 
  b) Independent or online video (2000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters,
  but which has not necessarily been broadcast.
 
  REPORTAGE AWARD (2500 €)
  A feature report in the German language with a minimum duration of 15
  minutes and a maximum duration of 29 minutes, produced by one or more
  video journalists/video reporters, but which has not necessarily been
  broadcast.
 
  NEWCOMER VIDEO JOURNALISM AWARD (1000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters.
  The applicants must be under 30 years of age or currently enrolled in
  an institution of higher education. Those productions will be
  considered for awards whose appeal lies in a unique style of content
  or cinematography and indicate a great potential of the applicant.
 
  Online- audience prize (500 €)
  A specially developed open online voting system will allow the users
  to cast votes for their favorite entries.
 
  Special mentioning of the jury
  The jury nominates a film, that impressed them, and that might expand
  the term video journalism.
 
  

[videoblogging] Re: Did you see my 82 year old vlogging mom on ABC World News

2008-07-21 Thread Steve Garfield
Thanks guys.

My mom got A LOT of comments, emails and new twitter friends after that ABC 
World 
News interview...

She's loving the community that she's found online, and listening and talking 
back.

She brings the old values of common courtesy to the web.  She replies to people 
who 
contact her with a personal note.

Thanks again.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Millie 08'!
 
 Millie goes viral.
 
 I haven't kept up enough on the steve and millie. I guess I've been
 missing the fun. ;)
 
 -Mike
 mmeiser.com/blog
 
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  your mother is so wonderful!
 
  On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
Hi guys,
 
  Did you see my 82 year old vlogging mom on ABC World News?
 
  She writes all about it on her blog:
 
  http://mymomsblog.blogspot.com/





Re: [videoblogging] Video Journalism Revolution

2008-07-21 Thread Mark Shea
Thanks for this vid. Very entertaining and thought provoking but also 
disturbing… I would like him to  show me some examples of what he thinks is 
excellent. If most TV is garbage – where’s all the brilliant examples of 
creative excellence this guy is talking about? These little cameras have been 
around now for some years…Where’s all the great examples of innovative creative 
genius?  Have you seen it? The democratization of this technology is all good 
but why is it that something like this always falls into the hands of a big 
corporation who stage-manage access to  it and ultimately owns the means of 
distribution - You Tube style.

Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey thanks for 
posting this!
 i have to go to columbia jschool in october to figure out how to save
 journalism
 this helps lol
 
 On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Check this out. Very insightful speech.
 
 
  http://www.vjawards.com/video/337/Michael-Rosenblum-40-minute-vj-revolution-speech
 
   
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Video Journalism Revolution

2008-07-21 Thread Irina
I was thinking the same thing and then i went to his web site or i
should say his blóg tho i still think if you are gonna give a talk
like this you cant just live in the problem you have to show the
solution otherwise you are just crotchety

On 7/21/08, Mark Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for this vid. Very entertaining and thought provoking but also
 disturbing… I would like him to  show me some examples of what he thinks is
 excellent. If most TV is garbage – where's all the brilliant examples of
 creative excellence this guy is talking about? These little cameras have
 been around now for some years…Where's all the great examples of innovative
 creative genius?  Have you seen it? The democratization of this technology
 is all good but why is it that something like this always falls into the
 hands of a big corporation who stage-manage access to  it and ultimately
 owns the means of distribution - You Tube style.

 Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey thanks for
 posting this!
  i have to go to columbia jschool in october to figure out how to save
  journalism
  this helps lol

  On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Check this out. Very insightful speech.
  
  
  
 http://www.vjawards.com/video/337/Michael-Rosenblum-40-minute-vj-revolution-speech
  
  
  

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Journalism Awards call for entries

2008-07-21 Thread Irina
Ha i spoke too soon there is almost not a chance that i will mail
anything that i did on line that is just ridiculous i will email them
and see if this can be amended


On 7/21/08, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How a video contest should be run, except for this part:

 -- clipped part starts --

 You will need Adobe Acrobat Reader to read and print this form once it is
 completed, you
 can get it here :

  Be sure to fill out the form completly

  Once completed filling out the entry form, select Submit this will submit
 your
 information into our database, as well email your account email address a
 copy of the
 completed application in PDF format.

 Check your email, and print your completed copy of the application, sign it,
 and place with
 your submissions.

 Lastly, if you are submitting a video from a NON-European country, click
 here to download
 a Pro Forma Invoice - THIS IS A MUST, your video will be held in customs and
 not received

 -- clipped part ends --


 it would be a lot easier, and they'd get more submissions if they allowed us
 to wither link
 to and existing video or upload one.

 It looks like  you need to mail a physical piece of media in...


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 NOW THIS, not the webbies, is how awards sould be run

 from what i can tell, its free to enter?
 and the person who wins actually gets a prize?
 pease correct me if i'm wrong.

 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Video Journalism Awards 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
  Please forward to people who are interested in video journalism. Thank
  you!
 
  4th International Video Journalism Awards, Mainz, Germany:
  Unlimited access
 
  CALL FOR ENTRIES Deadline 15th of October 2008
  http://www.vjawards.com
 
  Go out - find a story – publish it:
  The „4th International Video Journalism Awards is calling for entries!
 
  The Video Journalism Awards is looking for non-fiction videos from
  single authors, the so called videojournalists (short VJs). A VJ is
  responsible for the whole creative process starting from research and
  shooting as well as covering the whole process of editing and
  sometimes even the publication of the film.
  A small camcorder and a laptop are the tools of the VJ, which is
  comparable to the pen and paper a newspaper journalist uses.
 
  The final deadline for entering films for the 4th International Video
  Journalism Awards is the 15th of October 2008. The awards are produced
  by vjawards.com , the host is ZDF German Television in Mainz.
 
  The internet is converging all kinds of media, which is reflected by
  this year's theme unlimited access. The awards try to cover all
  known fields of video journalism: films from TV-stations and
  publishing companies and productions from an independent background
  are awarded with a total of 12.000 € of prize money going to the
  seperated categories independent and online and TV production.
  Recent developements that influence the VJ-scene and future
  perspectives are discussed in the supporting programme of the 4th
  International Video Journalism Awards.
 
  INTERNATIONAL VIDEO JOURNALISM AWARD
 
  a) TV production – broadcast reports (2000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters,
  and which has already been broadcast.
 
  b) independent or online video (2000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters,
  but which has not necessarily been broadcast.
 
  GERMAN VIDEO JOURNALISM AWARD
 
  a) TV production - broadcast reports (2000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters and
  which has been aired by a German-language television channel (please
  indicate the station and broadcast date). All genres.
 
  b) Independent or online video (2000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters,
  but which has not necessarily been broadcast.
 
  REPORTAGE AWARD (2500 €)
  A feature report in the German language with a minimum duration of 15
  minutes and a maximum duration of 29 minutes, produced by one or more
  video journalists/video reporters, but which has not necessarily been
  broadcast.
 
  NEWCOMER VIDEO JOURNALISM AWARD (1000 €)
  A journalistic or documentary report with a maximum duration of 15
  minutes, produced by one or more video journalists/video reporters.
  The applicants must be under 30 years of age or currently enrolled in
  an institution of higher education. Those productions will be
  considered for awards whose appeal lies in a unique style of content
  or cinematography and indicate a great potential of the applicant.
 
  Online- audience prize (500 €)
  A specially developed open 

Re: [videoblogging] Video Journalism Revolution

2008-07-21 Thread Mark Shea
Youtube has been around for two years now. Is anyone making any cash (including 
google)? Is youtube promoting anything other than vloggers? Maybe if video 
sites started paying creative content producers the 'revolution' will occur. 
But so far advertisers haven't really jumped on board with 'unsafe' user 
generated content

So the only people who are making money from online video are those with clever 
solutions like 'the secret'. Buy a heap of people's emails interested in self 
help, build up suspense and a deadline, then offer a dvd and a cheaper option 
(download) and make a million just from download sales.

I think clever creators are using the likes of youtube to only promote segments 
of their work, saving the goodies for their own sites (eg dvd or download 
sales) or finding advertisers willing to pay for content before it is made, so 
it can be offered for free on video sites.

Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking the same thing and then i went 
to his web site or i
should say his blóg tho i still think if you are gonna give a talk
like this you cant just live in the problem you have to show the
solution otherwise you are just crotchety

On 7/21/08, Mark Shea  wrote:
 Thanks for this vid. Very entertaining and thought provoking but also
 disturbing… I would like him to  show me some examples of what he thinks is
 excellent. If most TV is garbage – where's all the brilliant examples of
 creative excellence this guy is talking about? These little cameras have
 been around now for some years…Where's all the great examples of innovative
 creative genius?  Have you seen it? The democratization of this technology
 is all good but why is it that something like this always falls into the
 hands of a big corporation who stage-manage access to  it and ultimately
 owns the means of distribution - You Tube style.

 Irina  wrote: hey thanks for
 posting this!
  i have to go to columbia jschool in october to figure out how to save
  journalism
  this helps lol

  On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Renat Zarbailov 
 wrote:

 Check this out. Very insightful speech.
  
  
  
 http://www.vjawards.com/video/337/Michael-Rosenblum-40-minute-vj-revolution-speech
  
  
  

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[videoblogging] HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Eric Rochow
hi all

not sure what i'm doing wrong all of a sudden. i'm asking if any of you have 
suggested 
export - compressor settings for this setup. 

I'm shooting on a Canon HV20, in the '24P' mode ( which isn't really 24P )

editing in FInal cut 5.4 on a 1080 60i timeline

exporting to Compressor using iPod setting and Apple TV setting

and I keep getting this weird stutter - frame sync problem. 

you can watch a clip here: 

http://tinyurl.com/6oxo4g

http://realworldgreen.com/RWG_sprinkler_timer.mp4

does anyone else shoot on an HV20 in the 24P/film mode and export to iTunes via 
FCP 
Compressor?

thx, eric. 



Re: [videoblogging] HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Michael Verdi
So here's the deal...
The Canon HV20 really does shoot in 24P - it just does it in a weird
way. The stuttering you are seeing is partly because that's what 24P
looks like compared to 60i and partly because you have to do a reverse
telecine to put the progressive frames back in order. Here's my
shorthand notes on how to do it:

Ok, it seems that FCP (at least v 5.1.4) doesn't support the 24p mode
of this camera. There is a way to make it work but it's a pain in the
ass and you probably don't want to do it unless you're a little crazy
like me. Here's how it goes:

I had to make my own easy setup in FCP that looks like this:

Sequence Preset - take the HDV 1080p24 preset, duplicate it and change
the compressor to Apple Intermediate Codec. Helps to give it a snappy
name like AIC 1080p24

Capture Preset - HDV - Apple Intermediate Codec

Device Control Preset - HDV Firewire Basic

The crappy part (at least I think so - maybe not a problem for you) is
that you can't log  capture - it just lets you name your clip and it
starts recording. So it's kind of like iMovie here.

Then once you've captured your clips (if you stopped and started
recording on the tape you must make a new clip), you have to open them
in QT Pro and figure out the pulldown cadence, ie, interlaced frame,
interlaced frame, progressive frame, progressive frame, progressive
frame.
There are these possibilities:
p-p-i-i-p
p-i-i-p-p
i-p-p-p-i
p-p-p-i-i
i-i-p-p-p

If you find that the clip is that last one, i-i-p-p-p, then you have
to remove those beginning interlaced frames by using the arrow keys to
move through those first frames till you hit the first progressive
frame, then hit 'o' then apple x and then save. Now this clip is
p-p-p-i-i.

Ok then open up Cinema Tools. and open a clip. The go to the Clip menu
and select Reverse Telecine. Here are the settings
Capture Mode: F1-F2
File: New (smaller)
Conform to:
24.0
Standard upper/lower (checked)
Fields:
p-p-i-i-p = AA
p-i-i-p-p = BB
i-p-p-p-i = BC
p-p-p-i-i = CD

Style 1 on the drop down.
Click Ok to start the process.

Then back in FCP import your new 24p clips and stick them on your new
AIC 1080p24 sequence!

Exporting once you're done editing

Now for some reason exporting using quicktime conversion to apple tv
or ipod get's all messed up. So instead, export as a QuickTime Movie
(it can be a reference movie if you want) and then open that up with
QuickTime Pro. Then export for Apple TV and iPod and you will be
amazed. BTW, the Apple TV export will be at 1280 X 720!


Verdi

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Eric Rochow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi all

 not sure what i'm doing wrong all of a sudden. i'm asking if any of you have 
 suggested
 export - compressor settings for this setup.

 I'm shooting on a Canon HV20, in the '24P' mode ( which isn't really 24P )

 editing in FInal cut 5.4 on a 1080 60i timeline

 exporting to Compressor using iPod setting and Apple TV setting

 and I keep getting this weird stutter - frame sync problem.

 you can watch a clip here:

 http://tinyurl.com/6oxo4g

 http://realworldgreen.com/RWG_sprinkler_timer.mp4

 does anyone else shoot on an HV20 in the 24P/film mode and export to iTunes 
 via FCP
 Compressor?

 thx, eric.


 

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[videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Bill Cammack
Like Verdi said, you can't use 24p footage directly from the HV20 in
Final Cut.  Here's an AppleTV version of a 24p video from an HV20:

http://blip.tv/file/get/Blipon-BlipOnBlip27Revision3ScamSchoolPopSirenTheDiggReel699.mp4

or

http://peaurl.com/2Uqe

The problem is that Final Cut Pro doesn't show you both fields... It
only shows you one.  So video that looks good while you're editing it
looks like garbage when you output it.

What you have to do is capture the video to FCP using the HDV easy
setup.  As soon as you capture it, find the video in your capture
scratch folder and open it using Compressor and make/save a setting
that does reverse telecine and has the frame rate 23.976.  Make
the codec Apple ProRes.

Once that video gets encoded, import THAT video into FCP and work with
that.

Here are some Apple Docs that explain the process:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2410?viewlocale=en_US

Bill Cammack
http://billcammack.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So here's the deal...
 The Canon HV20 really does shoot in 24P - it just does it in a weird
 way. The stuttering you are seeing is partly because that's what 24P
 looks like compared to 60i and partly because you have to do a reverse
 telecine to put the progressive frames back in order. Here's my
 shorthand notes on how to do it:
 
 Ok, it seems that FCP (at least v 5.1.4) doesn't support the 24p mode
 of this camera. There is a way to make it work but it's a pain in the
 ass and you probably don't want to do it unless you're a little crazy
 like me. Here's how it goes:
 
 I had to make my own easy setup in FCP that looks like this:
 
 Sequence Preset - take the HDV 1080p24 preset, duplicate it and change
 the compressor to Apple Intermediate Codec. Helps to give it a snappy
 name like AIC 1080p24
 
 Capture Preset - HDV - Apple Intermediate Codec
 
 Device Control Preset - HDV Firewire Basic
 
 The crappy part (at least I think so - maybe not a problem for you) is
 that you can't log  capture - it just lets you name your clip and it
 starts recording. So it's kind of like iMovie here.
 
 Then once you've captured your clips (if you stopped and started
 recording on the tape you must make a new clip), you have to open them
 in QT Pro and figure out the pulldown cadence, ie, interlaced frame,
 interlaced frame, progressive frame, progressive frame, progressive
 frame.
 There are these possibilities:
 p-p-i-i-p
 p-i-i-p-p
 i-p-p-p-i
 p-p-p-i-i
 i-i-p-p-p
 
 If you find that the clip is that last one, i-i-p-p-p, then you have
 to remove those beginning interlaced frames by using the arrow keys to
 move through those first frames till you hit the first progressive
 frame, then hit 'o' then apple x and then save. Now this clip is
 p-p-p-i-i.
 
 Ok then open up Cinema Tools. and open a clip. The go to the Clip menu
 and select Reverse Telecine. Here are the settings
 Capture Mode: F1-F2
 File: New (smaller)
 Conform to:
 24.0
 Standard upper/lower (checked)
 Fields:
 p-p-i-i-p = AA
 p-i-i-p-p = BB
 i-p-p-p-i = BC
 p-p-p-i-i = CD
 
 Style 1 on the drop down.
 Click Ok to start the process.
 
 Then back in FCP import your new 24p clips and stick them on your new
 AIC 1080p24 sequence!
 
 Exporting once you're done editing
 
 Now for some reason exporting using quicktime conversion to apple tv
 or ipod get's all messed up. So instead, export as a QuickTime Movie
 (it can be a reference movie if you want) and then open that up with
 QuickTime Pro. Then export for Apple TV and iPod and you will be
 amazed. BTW, the Apple TV export will be at 1280 X 720!
 
 
 Verdi
 
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Eric Rochow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hi all
 
  not sure what i'm doing wrong all of a sudden. i'm asking if any
of you have suggested
  export - compressor settings for this setup.
 
  I'm shooting on a Canon HV20, in the '24P' mode ( which isn't
really 24P )
 
  editing in FInal cut 5.4 on a 1080 60i timeline
 
  exporting to Compressor using iPod setting and Apple TV setting
 
  and I keep getting this weird stutter - frame sync problem.
 
  you can watch a clip here:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/6oxo4g
 
  http://realworldgreen.com/RWG_sprinkler_timer.mp4
 
  does anyone else shoot on an HV20 in the 24P/film mode and export
to iTunes via FCP
  Compressor?
 
  thx, eric.
 
 
  
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Irina
wow you guys are amazing

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Like Verdi said, you can't use 24p footage directly from the HV20 in
 Final Cut. Here's an AppleTV version of a 24p video from an HV20:

 
 http://blip.tv/file/get/Blipon-BlipOnBlip27Revision3ScamSchoolPopSirenTheDiggReel699.mp4
 

 or

 http://peaurl.com/2Uqe

 The problem is that Final Cut Pro doesn't show you both fields... It
 only shows you one. So video that looks good while you're editing it
 looks like garbage when you output it.

 What you have to do is capture the video to FCP using the HDV easy
 setup. As soon as you capture it, find the video in your capture
 scratch folder and open it using Compressor and make/save a setting
 that does reverse telecine and has the frame rate 23.976. Make
 the codec Apple ProRes.

 Once that video gets encoded, import THAT video into FCP and work with
 that.

 Here are some Apple Docs that explain the process:
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2410?viewlocale=en_US

 Bill Cammack
 http://billcammack.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Michael Verdi

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So here's the deal...
  The Canon HV20 really does shoot in 24P - it just does it in a weird
  way. The stuttering you are seeing is partly because that's what 24P
  looks like compared to 60i and partly because you have to do a reverse
  telecine to put the progressive frames back in order. Here's my
  shorthand notes on how to do it:
 
  Ok, it seems that FCP (at least v 5.1.4) doesn't support the 24p mode
  of this camera. There is a way to make it work but it's a pain in the
  ass and you probably don't want to do it unless you're a little crazy
  like me. Here's how it goes:
 
  I had to make my own easy setup in FCP that looks like this:
 
  Sequence Preset - take the HDV 1080p24 preset, duplicate it and change
  the compressor to Apple Intermediate Codec. Helps to give it a snappy
  name like AIC 1080p24
 
  Capture Preset - HDV - Apple Intermediate Codec
 
  Device Control Preset - HDV Firewire Basic
 
  The crappy part (at least I think so - maybe not a problem for you) is
  that you can't log  capture - it just lets you name your clip and it
  starts recording. So it's kind of like iMovie here.
 
  Then once you've captured your clips (if you stopped and started
  recording on the tape you must make a new clip), you have to open them
  in QT Pro and figure out the pulldown cadence, ie, interlaced frame,
  interlaced frame, progressive frame, progressive frame, progressive
  frame.
  There are these possibilities:
  p-p-i-i-p
  p-i-i-p-p
  i-p-p-p-i
  p-p-p-i-i
  i-i-p-p-p
 
  If you find that the clip is that last one, i-i-p-p-p, then you have
  to remove those beginning interlaced frames by using the arrow keys to
  move through those first frames till you hit the first progressive
  frame, then hit 'o' then apple x and then save. Now this clip is
  p-p-p-i-i.
 
  Ok then open up Cinema Tools. and open a clip. The go to the Clip menu
  and select Reverse Telecine. Here are the settings
  Capture Mode: F1-F2
  File: New (smaller)
  Conform to:
  24.0
  Standard upper/lower (checked)
  Fields:
  p-p-i-i-p = AA
  p-i-i-p-p = BB
  i-p-p-p-i = BC
  p-p-p-i-i = CD
 
  Style 1 on the drop down.
  Click Ok to start the process.
 
  Then back in FCP import your new 24p clips and stick them on your new
  AIC 1080p24 sequence!
 
  Exporting once you're done editing
 
  Now for some reason exporting using quicktime conversion to apple tv
  or ipod get's all messed up. So instead, export as a QuickTime Movie
  (it can be a reference movie if you want) and then open that up with
  QuickTime Pro. Then export for Apple TV and iPod and you will be
  amazed. BTW, the Apple TV export will be at 1280 X 720!
 
 
  Verdi
 
  On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Eric Rochow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   hi all
  
   not sure what i'm doing wrong all of a sudden. i'm asking if any
 of you have suggested
   export - compressor settings for this setup.
  
   I'm shooting on a Canon HV20, in the '24P' mode ( which isn't
 really 24P )
  
   editing in FInal cut 5.4 on a 1080 60i timeline
  
   exporting to Compressor using iPod setting and Apple TV setting
  
   and I keep getting this weird stutter - frame sync problem.
  
   you can watch a clip here:
  
   http://tinyurl.com/6oxo4g
  
   http://realworldgreen.com/RWG_sprinkler_timer.mp4
  
   does anyone else shoot on an HV20 in the 24P/film mode and export
 to iTunes via FCP
   Compressor?
  
   thx, eric.
  
  
   
  
   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Brook Hinton
Actually if you have the canvas at 100% it does show you both fields.

If you have FCP Studio 2 you don't have to use Cinematools to do the
reverse pulldown - compressor's reverse telecine can do it more or
less automagically (there's a how to on Apple's FCP site specific to
the HV20. If you're on an earlier version, or even if you are on FCP6
and just prefer it, try the free JESdeinterlacer, which will reverse
telecine to the codec of your choice while detecting scene breaks for
you (for web work Apple Intermediate Codec isn't a bad choice - and
you don't have prores as an option anyway if you're on FCP5.x)

But... you CAN edit it without reverse telecine at 29.97. It's just
like editing telecine'd film. I don't work with the HV20's footage
this way but lots of folks do. The problem is that when you output to
a non-interlaced format (or for a non-interlaced display) you'll
either get combing (if the footage isn't deinterlaced first) or a
repeated frame every 4 frames (if it is).

One trick is to use either the flicker filter at maximum in FCP to
blend the fields, or blend fields in Compressor (I can't recall if you
do this through frame controls now or through the quicktime filters).
This will sometimes give you double images on the pulldown frames but
at 29.97 it's usually not objectionable, and the motion will be a
little more natural.

Frankly, I don't see much of a motion problem in your clip. Looking at
it frame by frame it looks like you deinterlaced as you do have a
repeating frame for each cadence cycle. Many DVD reissues of old TV
stuff shot on film have this 2:2:2:4 cadence which is why those shots
of Magnum PI running across the beach at Waimanalo look kinda funky if
you are motion sensitive.


Brook




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film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Brook Hinton
oops just saw that Bill gave you the scoop on the compressor method,
didn't mean to repeat!

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually if you have the canvas at 100% it does show you both fields.

 If you have FCP Studio 2 you don't have to use Cinematools to do the
 reverse pulldown - compressor's reverse telecine can do it more or
 less automagically (there's a how to on Apple's FCP site specific to
 the HV20. If you're on an earlier version, or even if you are on FCP6
 and just prefer it, try the free JESdeinterlacer, which will reverse
 telecine to the codec of your choice while detecting scene breaks for
 you (for web work Apple Intermediate Codec isn't a bad choice - and
 you don't have prores as an option anyway if you're on FCP5.x)

 But... you CAN edit it without reverse telecine at 29.97. It's just
 like editing telecine'd film. I don't work with the HV20's footage
 this way but lots of folks do. The problem is that when you output to
 a non-interlaced format (or for a non-interlaced display) you'll
 either get combing (if the footage isn't deinterlaced first) or a
 repeated frame every 4 frames (if it is).

 One trick is to use either the flicker filter at maximum in FCP to
 blend the fields, or blend fields in Compressor (I can't recall if you
 do this through frame controls now or through the quicktime filters).
 This will sometimes give you double images on the pulldown frames but
 at 29.97 it's usually not objectionable, and the motion will be a
 little more natural.

 Frankly, I don't see much of a motion problem in your clip. Looking at
 it frame by frame it looks like you deinterlaced as you do have a
 repeating frame for each cadence cycle. Many DVD reissues of old TV
 stuff shot on film have this 2:2:2:4 cadence which is why those shots
 of Magnum PI running across the beach at Waimanalo look kinda funky if
 you are motion sensitive.


 Brook




 ___
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 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab




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film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


[videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Bill Cammack
hahaha Thanks, Brook.  I was like ??? :D

Bill

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 oops just saw that Bill gave you the scoop on the compressor method,
 didn't mean to repeat!
 
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually if you have the canvas at 100% it does show you both fields.
 
  If you have FCP Studio 2 you don't have to use Cinematools to do the
  reverse pulldown - compressor's reverse telecine can do it more or
  less automagically (there's a how to on Apple's FCP site specific to
  the HV20. If you're on an earlier version, or even if you are on FCP6
  and just prefer it, try the free JESdeinterlacer, which will reverse
  telecine to the codec of your choice while detecting scene breaks for
  you (for web work Apple Intermediate Codec isn't a bad choice - and
  you don't have prores as an option anyway if you're on FCP5.x)
 
  But... you CAN edit it without reverse telecine at 29.97. It's just
  like editing telecine'd film. I don't work with the HV20's footage
  this way but lots of folks do. The problem is that when you output to
  a non-interlaced format (or for a non-interlaced display) you'll
  either get combing (if the footage isn't deinterlaced first) or a
  repeated frame every 4 frames (if it is).
 
  One trick is to use either the flicker filter at maximum in FCP to
  blend the fields, or blend fields in Compressor (I can't recall if you
  do this through frame controls now or through the quicktime filters).
  This will sometimes give you double images on the pulldown frames but
  at 29.97 it's usually not objectionable, and the motion will be a
  little more natural.
 
  Frankly, I don't see much of a motion problem in your clip. Looking at
  it frame by frame it looks like you deinterlaced as you do have a
  repeating frame for each cadence cycle. Many DVD reissues of old TV
  stuff shot on film have this 2:2:2:4 cadence which is why those shots
  of Magnum PI running across the beach at Waimanalo look kinda funky if
  you are motion sensitive.
 
 
  Brook
 
 
 
 
  ___
  Brook Hinton
  film/video/audio art
  www.brookhinton.com
  studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 ___
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 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab





[videoblogging] Re: Video Journalism Revolution

2008-07-21 Thread Renat Zarbailov
I do agree with you. He doesn't show what he considers the ultimate
Video Journalism. I suspect that this speech was recorded in 2004. It
would be nice to see him share his thoughts in regards to whether the
revolution he speaks of actually happened.

Renat of Innomind.org

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mark Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for this vid. Very entertaining and thought provoking but
also disturbing… I would like him to  show me some examples of what he
thinks is excellent. If most TV is garbage – where's all the brilliant
examples of creative excellence this guy is talking about? These
little cameras have been around now for some years…Where's all the
great examples of innovative creative genius?  Have you seen it? The
democratization of this technology is all good but why is it that
something like this always falls into the hands of a big corporation
who stage-manage access to  it and ultimately owns the means of
distribution - You Tube style.
 
 Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey thanks
for posting this!
  i have to go to columbia jschool in october to figure out how to save
  journalism
  this helps lol
  
  On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Check this out. Very insightful speech.
  
  
  
http://www.vjawards.com/video/337/Michael-Rosenblum-40-minute-vj-revolution-speech
  

  
  
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