[videoblogging] Re: scoping out a camera

2009-04-29 Thread Gena
I respectfully disagree because I lived the analog to digital conversion life. 

It cost more in time, conversions and stuff you have buy. I had a analog tape 
camera that in order to use footage I had to buy an analog to digital convert 
(Pyro A/V Link) hook it up, find software to convert (my editing software at 
the time didn't like Pyro) and then bring it into my software to edit and 
transcode again.

Time sink. Huge. 

The school will have to live with this equipment for a long time. Tapes stocks 
are disappearing. I'm telling you it is far easier to make a DVD safety copy of 
raw footage and then do whatever.

I think an upper level SD memory card or hard drive camcorder is the way to go. 
I'd lean toward the Panansonic, Canon lines with good optics and optical zoom. 
The new JVC camcorders released also should be checked out.

Some of your students are gonna be Flip owners or might buy knock off so you 
would have the same issues about file compatibility. It helps if all the files 
are digital.

My 0.02 cents

Gena
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rup...@... wrote:

 That may be a false economy.  Compared to the cost of all the other  
 kit and time, tapes are one of the cheapest and most cost effective  
 things you'll use.
 The cost of external hard drives for storage and backup of all the  
 files, and the premium you'll pay for a good tapeless camera compared  
 to a tape camera will outstrip the cost of tape stock.  Not to  
 mention, as Brook said, the cost of lost data when your Hard drives  
 fail.
 You should be able to pick up DV tapes for about $3 each online, or  
 even less.   That's $3 per hour of footage.
 And you can reuse them, either for more shooting or for backing up the  
 stuff you want to keep.
 
 Rupert
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 On 28-Apr-09, at 9:21 PM, Jason Daniels wrote:
 
 
 
  we were hoping to avoid the expense of tapes.
 
  On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Brook Hinton bhin...@...  
  wrote:
 
  
  
   There is also the fact, meaningful in an educational setting, that  
  tape
   provides an automatic media backup iwhen hard drives fail (and  
  they will
   fail).
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: scoping out a camera

2009-04-29 Thread Richard Amirault
- Original Message - 
From: Gena


I respectfully disagree because I lived the analog to digital conversion 
life.

 It cost more in time, conversions and stuff you have buy. I had a analog 
 tape camera that in order to use footage I had to buy an analog to digital 
 convert (Pyro A/V Link) hook it up, find software to convert (my editing 
 software at the time didn't like Pyro) and then bring it into my software 
 to edit and transcode again.
(snip)

Nothing was said about analog ... it was digital MiniDv tape.
Richard Amirault
Boston, MA, USA
http://n1jdu.org
http://bostonfandom.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ



[videoblogging] WANTED: SLOW DRAMATIC CLAPS

2009-04-29 Thread mcmpress
Hi everybody. I'm collecting slow dramatic claps for a big slow dramatic
clap of the internet. Won't you please be a part of it? Upload video of
YOU doing YOUR slow dramatic clap and send me the link at
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Here's more detail about the project:

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Thanks and hope to see your video soon!

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[videoblogging] scooping out camera

2009-04-29 Thread Gromik Tohoku

Hi,
I just bought a Panasonic HS200 for 1000dollars and I can tell you I wish I had 
bought a tape video camera instead.

First the file is uploaded as M2TS which can't be read by Microsft MM.
second the software that comes with the camera is basic and can only compress 
final products in AVCHD or H.264(iPod).

My computer is old and that is a problem, but I can't find a video card to 
upload from the Panasonic camera. There are only a few software that will 
truly upload the film directly from the camera, that is a few can read M2TS. 
MovieGate is one such product, but at the moment I am looking at Adobe Premier 
Pro.

I have spent four hours trying to solve this problem. If I had bought a tape 
camera I would have spent 0 of my time, and it would have worked directly on 
WMM.

Like you I wanted to shift to digital, but now I am not so sure.
hope this helps.
Nicolas

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[videoblogging] Re: scoping out a camera

2009-04-29 Thread Gena
My mistake - take out the analog tape and replace it with digital tape. I still 
think it is wrong to invest in a fading technology.

Everything fails - that is why you make backups and do the best you can to 
reduce the gotchas.

Exceedingly human,

Gena
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Amirault ramira...@... wrote:

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gena
 
 
 I respectfully disagree because I lived the analog to digital conversion 
 life.
 
  It cost more in time, conversions and stuff you have buy. I had a analog 
  tape camera that in order to use footage I had to buy an analog to digital 
  convert (Pyro A/V Link) hook it up, find software to convert (my editing 
  software at the time didn't like Pyro) and then bring it into my software 
  to edit and transcode again.
 (snip)
 
 Nothing was said about analog ... it was digital MiniDv tape.
 Richard Amirault
 Boston, MA, USA
 http://n1jdu.org
 http://bostonfandom.org
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ





Re: [videoblogging] Re: scoping out a camera

2009-04-29 Thread Richard Amirault
- Original Message - 
From: Gena


 My mistake - take out the analog tape and replace it with digital tape. I 
 still think it is wrong to invest in a fading technology.

 Everything fails - that is why you make backups and do the best you can to 
 reduce the gotchas.


A backup on video tape will last a *lot* longer than on a DVD or a hard 
drive.

Richard Amirault
Boston, MA, USA
http://n1jdu.org
http://bostonfandom.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ