[videoblogging] Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Julian Seery Gude
I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder.

Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if you 
prefer it over these)

- Flip Ultra HD
- Flip Mino HD
- Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10
- Kodak Zi6

I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both the 
Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched videos' 
on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light performance. 
What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this area? 

Thanks

Julian



[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Julian Seery Gude
LOL. Bill - you know that's exactly what I've been tossing and turning about! I 
know I need/want the 30fps mobile video of the iPhone 3GS but I love the idea 
of HD from watching all that pretty footage on Vimeo. I'd like to do both but 
the misses would have my head! :-)

Julian

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Julian Seery Gude jul...@... wrote:

 I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder.
 
 Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if you 
 prefer it over these)
 
 - Flip Ultra HD
 - Flip Mino HD
 - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10
 - Kodak Zi6
 
 I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both the 
 Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched 
 videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light 
 performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this 
 area? 
 
 Thanks
 
 Julian





[videoblogging] Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
I'm surprised we're over a week out and people haven't brought back their
takes to the list, but Lauren G. just put up a blog post with her take:

http://laurengalanter.com/2009/06/30/open-video-round-up/

What did the other attendees think about the Conference, and what is there
to tell people beyond the video tag and OGG Theora? I'll chime in later,
but I just wanted start the conversation.

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[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Jarod Dixon
Friend has a Flip Ultra HD, and it does a LOT better in low light than my 
Cannon HF-100.

As for sound it seems ok, but he mainly puts it in situations where the volume 
is a bit too much: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChBKTVYB0kY

(achem, me on bass)

Jarod the seldom poster.



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Julian Seery Gude jul...@... wrote:

 I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder.
 
 Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if you 
 prefer it over these)
 
 - Flip Ultra HD
 - Flip Mino HD
 - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10
 - Kodak Zi6
 
 I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both the 
 Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched 
 videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light 
 performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this 
 area? 
 
 Thanks
 
 Julian





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Kevin Lim
Mark my words... iPhoneHD.

iPhone 3GS video chipset already handles 720p, so it's a matter of time :P


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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Julian Seery Gudejul...@exceler8.com wrote:


 LOL. Bill - you know that's exactly what I've been tossing and turning
 about! I know I need/want the 30fps mobile video of the iPhone 3GS but I
 love the idea of HD from watching all that pretty footage on Vimeo. I'd like
 to do both but the misses would have my head! :-)

 Julian

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Julian Seery Gude jul...@...
 wrote:

 I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder.

 Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if
 you prefer it over these)

 - Flip Ultra HD
 - Flip Mino HD
 - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10
 - Kodak Zi6

 I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both
 the Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched
 videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light
 performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this
 area?

 Thanks

 Julian


 


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Julian Seery Gude
Hey Jarod,

Great example - I think the video looks and sounds pretty good for a  
live performance. But screw video, let's talk about your bass and your  
band! I plugged in my headphones, clicked on the HD button on YouTube  
and really enjoyed you guys! Great tune. Must go practice guitar now.

Julian


On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Jarod Dixon wrote:



 Friend has a Flip Ultra HD, and it does a LOT better in low light  
 than my Cannon HF-100.

 As for sound it seems ok, but he mainly puts it in situations where  
 the volume is a bit too much:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChBKTVYB0kY

 (achem, me on bass)

 Jarod the seldom poster.

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Julian Seery Gude  
 jul...@... wrote:
 
  I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder.
 
  Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your  
 fave if you prefer it over these)
 
  - Flip Ultra HD
  - Flip Mino HD
  - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10
  - Kodak Zi6
 
  I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer  
 both the Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT,  
 I've watched videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video  
 quality and low light performance. What about sound quality? The  
 Flip's seem to do poorly in this area?
 
  Thanks
 
  Julian
 


 

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[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Jarod Dixon
I figured that clip would show how it does in a poorly lit situation. That 
place (obviously) has just a bit of red lighting which my normally awesome 
Cannon just hates. 

Only thing I dislike about the flips is it's form factor - but that's just my 
preference. I find the Xacti's more comfortable.

iPhone at 720 would be fantastic!

Jarod



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Julian Seery Gude jul...@... wrote:

 Hey Jarod,
 
 Great example - I think the video looks and sounds pretty good for a  
 live performance. But screw video, let's talk about your bass and your  
 band! I plugged in my headphones, clicked on the HD button on YouTube  
 and really enjoyed you guys! Great tune. Must go practice guitar now.
 
 Julian
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Jarod Dixon wrote:
 
 
 
  Friend has a Flip Ultra HD, and it does a LOT better in low light  
  than my Cannon HF-100.
 
  As for sound it seems ok, but he mainly puts it in situations where  
  the volume is a bit too much:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChBKTVYB0kY
 
  (achem, me on bass)
 
  Jarod the seldom poster.
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Julian Seery Gude  
  julian@ wrote:
  
   I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder.
  
   Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your  
  fave if you prefer it over these)
  
   - Flip Ultra HD
   - Flip Mino HD
   - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10
   - Kodak Zi6
  
   I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer  
  both the Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT,  
  I've watched videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video  
  quality and low light performance. What about sound quality? The  
  Flip's seem to do poorly in this area?
  
   Thanks
  
   Julian
  
 
 
  
 
 ---
 Julian Seery Gude
 jul...@... {561} 584-9088 {skype} exceler8
 chief exceler8or @ exceler8 Corporation ~ www.exceler8.com
 editor @ LOCAL Na8ion ~ www.LOCALNa8ion.com
 Learn more about me: http://www.google.com/profiles/JulianSeeryGude
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread David Howell
I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot my 
latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters on that video and 
the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades.

I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol grip 
on the Xacti is great though.

If you're going to edit the footage you shoot in FCP or FCE from the Xacti, you 
have to convert the files to Apple Intermediate Codec first. I think iMovie can 
edit the files without doing anything to them.

David
http://www.disposablemedia.ca

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Julian Seery Gude jul...@... wrote:

 I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder.
 
 Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if you 
 prefer it over these)
 
 - Flip Ultra HD
 - Flip Mino HD
 - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10
 - Kodak Zi6
 
 I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both the 
 Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched 
 videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light 
 performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this 
 area? 
 
 Thanks
 
 Julian





Re: [videoblogging] Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Lauren Galanter
Thanks for posting my writeup, Jeffrey, and for stimulating discussion
here.

Two things I got excited about were -

1) giving developers of FOSS video editing apps feedback and advice about
UI, workflows and the like. They really need video creators to tell them
what they want and need. I know Ryanne and Verdi talked with a few of them
(and gave a great presentation on the same).

2) how remixing continues to become more mainstream, especially fan
remixes and mashups - most notably evidenced by John McIntosh's
Buffy/Twilight mashup - which is getting really popular. (
http://www.rebelliouspixels.com/2009/buffy-vs-edward-twilight-remixed)

It also got me thinking about what else we can do to really help people
become more video-literate in general.

Lauren Galanter

www.laurengalanter.com
www.linkedin.com/in/laureng
610-761-4435


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Jeffrey Taylor
thejeffreytay...@gmail.comwrote:



 I'm surprised we're over a week out and people haven't brought back their
 takes to the list, but Lauren G. just put up a blog post with her take:

 http://laurengalanter.com/2009/06/30/open-video-round-up/

 What did the other attendees think about the Conference, and what is there
 to tell people beyond the video tag and OGG Theora? I'll chime in later,
 but I just wanted start the conversation.

 --
 Jeffrey Taylor
 912 Cole St, #349
 San Francisco, CA 94117
 USA
 Mobile: +14157281264
 Fax: +33177722734
 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor
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[videoblogging] Tangent, a crowdfunding experiment

2009-07-01 Thread Adam Quirk
Hey all,
I just launched a new project called Tangent. It's a bit more coherent than
things I've made in the past.

It's a history series that shows how all things past, present, and future
are related and reciprocal. The pilot episode shows how credit cards are
related to the Pledge of Allegiance, Eisenhower, and the Interstate Highway
System.
http://tangent.ws

The show is only half the news though. I'm also crowdfunding the production
budget. I've split the show up into $10 shares, kept 51%, and am selling off
the other 49% to individual investors. These investors will potentially
profit from any ad revenue or licensing fees the show makes over the next 2
years.

I've laid it out in fairly simple terms here:
http://tangent.ws/funding

So if you have some extra loot lying around (and really who doesn't these
days), I'd love your support. I'm going to be busting my ass to get this
thing spread across the web, and glad-handing my way into as many
distribution deals as possible. So it may actually be possible to make some
money off this thing. No promises though.

Also, if you have any press contacts that may be interested in this sort of
crowdfunding/microfinancing story, please send them my way.

Ok,
AQ

http://tangent.ws
http://wreckandsalvage.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Tangent, a crowdfunding experiment

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Sullivan
nice, adam!

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.comwrote:



 Hey all,
 I just launched a new project called Tangent. It's a bit more coherent than
 things I've made in the past.

 It's a history series that shows how all things past, present, and future
 are related and reciprocal. The pilot episode shows how credit cards are
 related to the Pledge of Allegiance, Eisenhower, and the Interstate Highway
 System.
 http://tangent.ws

 The show is only half the news though. I'm also crowdfunding the production
 budget. I've split the show up into $10 shares, kept 51%, and am selling
 off
 the other 49% to individual investors. These investors will potentially
 profit from any ad revenue or licensing fees the show makes over the next 2
 years.

 I've laid it out in fairly simple terms here:
 http://tangent.ws/funding

 So if you have some extra loot lying around (and really who doesn't these
 days), I'd love your support. I'm going to be busting my ass to get this
 thing spread across the web, and glad-handing my way into as many
 distribution deals as possible. So it may actually be possible to make some
 money off this thing. No promises though.

 Also, if you have any press contacts that may be interested in this sort of
 crowdfunding/microfinancing story, please send them my way.

 Ok,
 AQ

 http://tangent.ws
 http://wreckandsalvage.com

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[videoblogging] The Question of Freedom at the Open Video Conference

2009-07-01 Thread T.Whid
FYI
http://rhizome.org/editorial/2739


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Re: [videoblogging] Tangent, a crowdfunding experiment

2009-07-01 Thread Adam Quirk
Thanks Sull.
And thanks for doing all the legwork for me when I was researching
crowdfunding :)
http://crowdfunding.pbworks.com/

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Michael Sullivan sullele...@gmail.comwrote:

 nice, adam!

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.com
 wrote:

 
 
  Hey all,
  I just launched a new project called Tangent. It's a bit more coherent
 than
  things I've made in the past.
 
  It's a history series that shows how all things past, present, and future
  are related and reciprocal. The pilot episode shows how credit cards are
  related to the Pledge of Allegiance, Eisenhower, and the Interstate
 Highway
  System.
  http://tangent.ws
 
  The show is only half the news though. I'm also crowdfunding the
 production
  budget. I've split the show up into $10 shares, kept 51%, and am selling
  off
  the other 49% to individual investors. These investors will potentially
  profit from any ad revenue or licensing fees the show makes over the next
 2
  years.
 
  I've laid it out in fairly simple terms here:
  http://tangent.ws/funding
 
  So if you have some extra loot lying around (and really who doesn't these
  days), I'd love your support. I'm going to be busting my ass to get this
  thing spread across the web, and glad-handing my way into as many
  distribution deals as possible. So it may actually be possible to make
 some
  money off this thing. No promises though.
 
  Also, if you have any press contacts that may be interested in this sort
 of
  crowdfunding/microfinancing story, please send them my way.
 
  Ok,
  AQ
 
  http://tangent.ws
  http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Tangent, a crowdfunding experiment

2009-07-01 Thread David Howell
Looks cool. Reminds me of that TV show Connections. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_(TV_series) Always loved it!

Great idea on pulling people in as investors to fund it.

Good luck with the project!

David
http://www.disposablemedia.ca

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk qu...@... wrote:

 Hey all,
 I just launched a new project called Tangent. It's a bit more coherent than
 things I've made in the past.
 
 It's a history series that shows how all things past, present, and future
 are related and reciprocal. The pilot episode shows how credit cards are
 related to the Pledge of Allegiance, Eisenhower, and the Interstate Highway
 System.
 http://tangent.ws
 
 The show is only half the news though. I'm also crowdfunding the production
 budget. I've split the show up into $10 shares, kept 51%, and am selling off
 the other 49% to individual investors. These investors will potentially
 profit from any ad revenue or licensing fees the show makes over the next 2
 years.
 
 I've laid it out in fairly simple terms here:
 http://tangent.ws/funding
 
 So if you have some extra loot lying around (and really who doesn't these
 days), I'd love your support. I'm going to be busting my ass to get this
 thing spread across the web, and glad-handing my way into as many
 distribution deals as possible. So it may actually be possible to make some
 money off this thing. No promises though.
 
 Also, if you have any press contacts that may be interested in this sort of
 crowdfunding/microfinancing story, please send them my way.
 
 Ok,
 AQ
 
 http://tangent.ws
 http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Tangent, a crowdfunding experiment

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Sullivan
I added your project and text from the about page.


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.comwrote:



 Thanks Sull.
 And thanks for doing all the legwork for me when I was researching
 crowdfunding :)
 http://crowdfunding.pbworks.com/

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Michael Sullivan 
 sullele...@gmail.comsulleleven%40gmail.com
 wrote:


  nice, adam!
 
  On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Adam Quirk 
  qu...@wreckandsalvage.comquirk%40wreckandsalvage.com
  wrote:
 
  
  
   Hey all,
   I just launched a new project called Tangent. It's a bit more coherent
  than
   things I've made in the past.
  
   It's a history series that shows how all things past, present, and
 future
   are related and reciprocal. The pilot episode shows how credit cards
 are
   related to the Pledge of Allegiance, Eisenhower, and the Interstate
  Highway
   System.
   http://tangent.ws
  
   The show is only half the news though. I'm also crowdfunding the
  production
   budget. I've split the show up into $10 shares, kept 51%, and am
 selling
   off
   the other 49% to individual investors. These investors will potentially
   profit from any ad revenue or licensing fees the show makes over the
 next
  2
   years.
  
   I've laid it out in fairly simple terms here:
   http://tangent.ws/funding
  
   So if you have some extra loot lying around (and really who doesn't
 these
   days), I'd love your support. I'm going to be busting my ass to get
 this
   thing spread across the web, and glad-handing my way into as many
   distribution deals as possible. So it may actually be possible to make
  some
   money off this thing. No promises though.
  
   Also, if you have any press contacts that may be interested in this
 sort
  of
   crowdfunding/microfinancing story, please send them my way.
  
   Ok,
   AQ
  
   http://tangent.ws
   http://wreckandsalvage.com
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Tangent, a crowdfunding experiment

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 I just launched a new project called Tangent. It's a bit more coherent than
 things I've made in the past.
 It's a history series that shows how all things past, present, and future
 are related and reciprocal. The pilot episode shows how credit cards are
 related to the Pledge of Allegiance, Eisenhower, and the Interstate Highway
 System.
 http://tangent.ws

Did you use Wordpress to create this site?

Jay



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[videoblogging] Re: Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread hamish
We made a video about the subject for http://visionontv.org this is part 
one: http://plugandplay.visionon.tv/

Part 2 coming soon.

Hamish


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread t. whid
very relevant:
http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:08 PM, hamish ham...@undercurrents.org wrote:

 We made a video about the subject for http://visionontv.org this is part
 one: http://plugandplay.visionon.tv/

 Part 2 coming soon.

 Hamish


 

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 very relevant:
 http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html

Good find. Ill add some context to Tim's link. Because the different
browsers cant agree to support the same codecs, video creators must fight to
figure out how to work across all browsers if they want to use the video
tag in html 5.

  Apple refuses to implement Ogg Theora in Quicktime by default (as used
   by Safari), citing lack of hardware support and an uncertain patent
   landscape.

   Google has implemented H.264 and Ogg Theora in Chrome, but cannot
   provide the H.264 codec license to third-party distributors of
   Chromium, and have indicated a belief that Ogg Theora's quality-per-bit
   is not yet suitable for the volume handled by YouTube.

   Opera refuses to implement H.264, citing the obscene cost of the
   relevant patent licenses.

   Mozilla refuses to implement H.264, as they would not be able to obtain
   a license that covers their downstream distributors.

   Microsoft has not commented on their intent to support video at all.



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Re: [videoblogging] Tangent, a crowdfunding experiment

2009-07-01 Thread Quirk
Yeah, it's a theme called TV Elements. I just added the Download link on the 
bottom left of the video, and integrated an Amazon shopping cart on the 
http://tangent.ws/funding page
Sent via dynamic wireless technology device

-Original Message-
From: Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com

Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:44:50 
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Tangent, a crowdfunding experiment


 I just launched a new project called Tangent. It's a bit more coherent than
 things I've made in the past.
 It's a history series that shows how all things past, present, and future
 are related and reciprocal. The pilot episode shows how credit cards are
 related to the Pledge of Allegiance, Eisenhower, and the Interstate Highway
 System.
 http://tangent.ws

Did you use Wordpress to create this site?

Jay



-- 
http://ryanishungry.com
http://jaydedman.com
http://twitter.com/jaydedman
917 371 6790




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Re: [videoblogging] Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 I'm surprised we're over a week out and people haven't brought back their
 takes to the list, but Lauren G. just put up a blog post with her take:
 http://laurengalanter.com/2009/06/30/open-video-round-up/
 What did the other attendees think about the Conference, and what is there
 to tell people beyond the video tag and OGG Theora? I'll chime in later,
 but I just wanted start the conversation.

The conference confirmed several things I already thoughtand introduced
some surprises.

Many people discussed the need for independent creators to become more
decentralized. As we see more and more free commercial hosting sites close
down, creators need to think about hosting their own content IF they care
about it lasting online. Many people just throw a video up like disposable
graffiti, but others will want to make sure their videos live on. So
archiving is a big issue.

Creators (me included) are still confused as to what the video and
canvas tags will do for our own creativity. We need more examples to get
inspired by the fact that we can now use video in html like any other
element. No more trapped in a player. If you could make videos do anything,
what would you want to do? Here are some links to see where we're at. Sull
says he's share his experiments.

   - http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/
   - http://blog.mozbox.org/
   -
   
http://blog.mozbox.org/post/2009/04/12/Firefox-35%3A-a-new-experiment-with-Canvas-Video

The codec wars rage on. Still a lot of confusion among creators why they
should care about Ogg/Theora instead of flash, mp4, or h264. What is an open
source codec? Tim linked to a good explanation here:
http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html A
FOSS (free and open source) standard helps innovation.

The most surprising thing was the state of FOSS video editors. I had no idea
how far they had come along the past 3 years. I learned that much work has
been put into building the libraries, transcoders, etc. Now each project is
more just dealing with interface. This is a huge win. Pitivi (
http://www.pitivi.org) and VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) are the main
ones we saw. Unlike the editors we all use, you can throw any codec into it,
and the program should know how to play it. I'm still a couple years from
dumping iMovie/FCP, but I like the idea of more capability rather than less.

All in all, the train rolls on. Commercial companies has baked in a lot of
innovation and provided stability to web video...while the greassroots
continue to do the advanced research and push the envelope of what we want
to do.

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Re: [videoblogging] Tangent, a crowdfunding experiment

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 Yeah, it's a theme called TV Elements. I just added the Download link on 
 the bottom left of the video, and integrated an Amazon shopping cart on the 
 http://tangent.ws/funding page

Site really looks good.
Conspiracy theories or truth? You decide.

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Re: [videoblogging] Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread t. whid
Great post Jay. Some thoughts below...

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm surprised we're over a week out and people haven't brought back their
  takes to the list, but Lauren G. just put up a blog post with her take:
  http://laurengalanter.com/2009/06/30/open-video-round-up/
  What did the other attendees think about the Conference, and what is
 there
  to tell people beyond the video tag and OGG Theora? I'll chime in
 later,
  but I just wanted start the conversation.

 The conference confirmed several things I already thoughtand introduced
 some surprises.

 Many people discussed the need for independent creators to become more
 decentralized. As we see more and more free commercial hosting sites close
 down, creators need to think about hosting their own content IF they care
 about it lasting online. Many people just throw a video up like disposable
 graffiti, but others will want to make sure their videos live on. So
 archiving is a big issue.


We need to be decentralized but centralized. We need to be semantically
centralized but physically decentralized. People use YouTube because that's
where they can find an audience. We need a YouTube of independent video --
something that can aggregate an audience without relying on one
legal/physical choke point.




 Creators (me included) are still confused as to what the video and
 canvas tags will do for our own creativity. We need more examples to get
 inspired by the fact that we can now use video in html like any other
 element. No more trapped in a player. If you could make videos do anything,
 what would you want to do? Here are some links to see where we're at. Sull
 says he's share his experiments.

   - http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/
   - http://blog.mozbox.org/
   -

 http://blog.mozbox.org/post/2009/04/12/Firefox-35%3A-a-new-experiment-with-Canvas-Video

 The codec wars rage on. Still a lot of confusion among creators why they
 should care about Ogg/Theora instead of flash, mp4, or h264. What is an
 open
 source codec? Tim linked to a good explanation here:
 http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.htmlA
 FOSS (free and open source) standard helps innovation.


As that post on WHATWG points out, the FOSS codec theora, according to
Apple, isn't actually free of legal constraints (Apple sites patent issues).
Perhaps Apple is using this as a smokescreen since they can't easily support
theora on the iPod so it makes no sense for them to push the codec... But
there do seem to be both legal and structural issues (the hardware decoder
issues) that are preventing big vendors (Apple, MS) from adopting the codec.
And though Google put it in Chrome, they still won't commit to using video
with theora on YouTube.




 The most surprising thing was the state of FOSS video editors. I had no
 idea
 how far they had come along the past 3 years. I learned that much work has
 been put into building the libraries, transcoders, etc. Now each project is
 more just dealing with interface. This is a huge win. Pitivi (
 http://www.pitivi.org) and VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) are the main
 ones we saw. Unlike the editors we all use, you can throw any codec into
 it,
 and the program should know how to play it. I'm still a couple years from
 dumping iMovie/FCP, but I like the idea of more capability rather than
 less.

 All in all, the train rolls on. Commercial companies has baked in a lot of
 innovation and provided stability to web video...while the greassroots
 continue to do the advanced research and push the envelope of what we want
 to do.

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Re: [videoblogging] Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 As that post on WHATWG points out, the FOSS codec theora, according to
 Apple, isn't actually free of legal constraints (Apple sites patent issues).
 Perhaps Apple is using this as a smokescreen since they can't easily support
 theora on the iPod so it makes no sense for them to push the codec... But
 there do seem to be both legal and structural issues (the hardware decoder
 issues) that are preventing big vendors (Apple, MS) from adopting the codec.
 And though Google put it in Chrome, they still won't commit to using video
 with theora on YouTube.

This is the discussion of codec nerds, but I would put money down that
Apple/Nokia are using scare tactics when it comes to the submarine
patents of Ogg/Theora. It's bulll-shit.

Michael Dale, who I have crazy respect for, lays it down here:
http://metavid.org/blog/2007/12/11/the-attack-against-ogg-theora-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-proprietary-web/

As the WHATWG email points out
(http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.htmlA),
all is takes is for Google Chrome to adopt Ogg/Theora to prove it's
not a big deal. It's all about strategy. Google didnt have any issues
taking in Youtube's copyright problems because they felt it was a win.

The main point for all creators to understand is this: H264 and Flash
feel very free (as in cost) to us. But for developers of browsers or
editing software, there is a cost to be able to use those codecs. So
the cost comes in headaches and lack of innovation. This is why 50% of
the emails on this list are always about compression... and why your
x camera files dont work on your y editing program on your z
operating system.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Sullivan
ah man!  they removed the video element from latest draft?
i'll have to read up on this later.
that's annoying news.  hopefully the browsers keep supporting it though.

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 very relevant:
 http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html


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 ham...@undercurrents.orghamish%40undercurrents.org
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  one: http://plugandplay.visionon.tv/
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Sullivan
i feel like i'm voting for nader all over again ;)

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Michael Sullivan sullele...@gmail.comwrote:

 ah man!  they removed the video element from latest draft?
 i'll have to read up on this later.
 that's annoying news.  hopefully the browsers keep supporting it though.


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 very relevant:
 http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html


 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:08 PM, hamish 
 ham...@undercurrents.orghamish%40undercurrents.org
 wrote:

  We made a video about the subject for http://visionontv.org this is
 part
  one: http://plugandplay.visionon.tv/
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 ah man! they removed the video element from latest draft?
 i'll have to read up on this later.
 that's annoying news. hopefully the browsers keep supporting it though.

No, the video element still exists. But the standards body is not
recommending a specific codec that will be standard. So each browser
seems to be choosing the codec that is most politically convenient.
http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Sullivan
i see. ok.

A codec agnostic implementation of the *video* tag is next to worthless. A
 simple javaScript 
 libraryhttp://metavid.ucsc.edu/blog/2007/06/07/html5-video-the-future-is-now/could
  accomplish the same thing. Codec agnostic video tag represents no
 significant difference from the object/embed tags that we already have
 today. If web developers can’t count on a given codec being supported the
 video tag is likely to go nowhere fast. If that approach is taken video will
 remain a second class web citizen wrapped up in proprietary encapsulations.
 The whole point of the w3c is to promote/develop 
 interoperablehttp://www.w3.org/technologies. In the current
 browser 
 environmenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsersnon-free 
 implementations are simply
 *not interoperable*. The w3c would be going against their own 
 positionhttp://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#def-essentialand
  obsoleting themselves in the process if they take the codec agnostic
 approach.


via
http://metavid.org/blog/2007/12/11/the-attack-against-ogg-theora-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-proprietary-web/

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  ah man! they removed the video element from latest draft?
  i'll have to read up on this later.
  that's annoying news. hopefully the browsers keep supporting it though.

 No, the video element still exists. But the standards body is not
 recommending a specific codec that will be standard. So each browser
 seems to be choosing the codec that is most politically convenient.
 http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html

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[videoblogging] How to let people easily publish a private file?

2009-07-01 Thread Rupert
Help!  I need to let some people upload videos, which they will then  
embed on a members-only Wordpress blog.

The people publishing the files can't use FTP to upload the files to a  
private server.

So I need them to be able to upload to a free video sharing site like  
Blip or YouTube.

BUT they don't want the videos to be discoverable by random internet  
users via search or browsing.  They only want them to be seen where  
they're embedded, by the members of the site.

What's the best way to let them upload a video which can only be seen  
where it's embedded, not by random users browsing/searching on the  
video sharing site.  Do any of the hosting/sharing sites offer this  
kind of service?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 A codec agnostic implementation of the *video* tag is next to worthless. A
 simple javaScript 
 libraryhttp://metavid.ucsc.edu/blog/2007/06/07/html5-video-the-future-is-now/could
  accomplish the same thing. Codec agnostic video tag represents no
 significant difference from the object/embed tags that we already have  
 today. If web developers can’t count on a given codec being supported the 
 video tag is likely to go nowhere fast. If that approach is taken video will
 remain a second class web citizen wrapped up in proprietary encapsulations.
 The whole point of the w3c is to promote/develop 
 interoperablehttp://www.w3.org/technologies. In the current
 browser 
 environmenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsersnon-free
  implementations are simply
 *not interoperable*. The w3c would be going against their own 
 positionhttp://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#def-essentialand
  obsoleting themselves in the process if they take the codec agnostic
 approach.
 via
 http://metavid.org/blog/2007/12/11/the-attack-against-ogg-theora-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-proprietary-web/

Verdi posted about how you can code the page with the video
elementusing fallbacks for the different browsers:
http://reports.graymattergravy.com/2009/06/02/video-tag-embed-with-fallbacks/

The obvious question is: why not just embed a stupid-simple flash video?

Well, I'm still looking to see if using the video tag will allow for
more creative possibilities. Maybe it can just be more than a static
video in a page. Still not a whole lot in the wild yet, but this is
cool: http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/06/12/cool-html5-video-demos/

Ive heard other people say they may just do video experiments with a
warning: you must use Firefoc 3.5 to see this project.

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Re: [videoblogging] How to let people easily publish a private file?

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 What's the best way to let them upload a video which can only be seen
 where it's embedded, not by random users browsing/searching on the
 video sharing site. Do any of the hosting/sharing sites offer this
 kind of service?

http://blip.tv/faq/pro

 Sometimes you don't want the whole world to see your videos. As a pro
 account user, you can mark your videos as 'hidden'. Hidden videos don't show
 up in blip.tv's indexes and searches, or in any RSS feeds. On the 
 blip.tvsite, only you and other registered
 blip.tv users who you list as contacts can see your hidden videos.* If you
 want to share the videos with other people who aren't blip.tv users, you
 can post them to an external site.* Finally, you can password-protect your
 hidden videos, so that they can only be watched by people who know the
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Re: [videoblogging] How to let people easily publish a private file?

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Sullivan
blip pro has feature to hide uploaded videos.
never tried it but i assume those videos could be embedded.
they are just not listed on the site.

else, you could play with apache and referrer/ip restrictions.

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 Help! I need to let some people upload videos, which they will then
 embed on a members-only Wordpress blog.

 The people publishing the files can't use FTP to upload the files to a
 private server.

 So I need them to be able to upload to a free video sharing site like
 Blip or YouTube.

 BUT they don't want the videos to be discoverable by random internet
 users via search or browsing. They only want them to be seen where
 they're embedded, by the members of the site.

 What's the best way to let them upload a video which can only be seen
 where it's embedded, not by random users browsing/searching on the
 video sharing site. Do any of the hosting/sharing sites offer this
 kind of service?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot my 
 latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters on that video 
 and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades.
 I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol grip 
 on the Xacti is great though.

I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation
especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.

But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how
the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Kevin Lim
I'm intrigued by the price/performance of Xacti CG10. Several wins for
it, including video directly importable into iMovie without any
conversion (true?).

One distinguishing feature between low-cost (Flips) vs. mid-ranged HD
cameras is the image stabilization (IS) feature. Xacti CG10 cheats by
using digital stabilization (is it still decent?). An optical IS
feature would be a big deal if you enjoy shooting casual video
handheld.

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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Jay dedmanjay.ded...@gmail.com wrote:


 I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot
 my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters on that
 video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades.
 I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol
 grip on the Xacti is great though.

 I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation
 especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.

 But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
 As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how
 the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
 perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.

 Jay

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 I'm intrigued by the price/performance of Xacti CG10. Several wins for
 it, including video directly importable into iMovie without any
 conversion (true?).

I know the Flip video needs conversaion before bringing into iMovie.
Ryanne made a screencast here:
http://freevlog.org/content/imovie-updating-and-importing

Cant be sure of the new Xacti till i get it, but the current round of
Xactis import directly into iMovie and FCP.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Julian Seery Gude
Jay, thanks for the video example of the Xacti CG10.

Video footage looks very nice. I handled one in Radio Slack today and  
it felt great. Very impressed that this is a sub $200USD camcorder. I  
figure it would be pretty functional mobile rig when paired up with an  
EyeFi SDHC Wireless Card for wireless uploading at home and at  
hotspots. For that matter, with tethering available to many people now  
on Nokia phones and recently the iPhone it could be a nice mobile  
combo for short HD videos.

Julian

On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:15 PM, Jay dedman wrote:



  I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera.  
 I shot my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No  
 filters on that video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with  
 it was cross-fades.
  I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The  
 pistol grip on the Xacti is great though.

 I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation
 especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.

 But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
 As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how
 the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
 perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Kevin Lim
David,
   Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of
image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process
them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :)

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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howelltaoofda...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed with the
 images the CG10 takes.

 I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57

 I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 ratio at
 a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good.

 I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I can come
 up with from what I got.

 David
 http://www.disposablemedia.ca

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote:

  I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot
  my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters on that
  video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades.
  I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol
  grip on the Xacti is great though.

 I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation
 especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.

 But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
 As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how
 the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
 perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.

 Jay

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Re: [videoblogging] Let's chat about the Open Video Conference....

2009-07-01 Thread Jay dedman
 What did the other attendees think about the Conference, and what is there
 to tell people beyond the video tag and OGG Theora? I'll chime in later,
 but I just wanted start the conversation.

This Australian artists did a good round up of the conference:
http://thequality.com/people/michela/weblog/archives/002830.html

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[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread David Howell
I added a little contrast to the images as the sun was really blowing out 
everything. Not much more than that though.

Thanks

David
http://www.disposablemedia.ca

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Lim brainop...@... wrote:

 David,
Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of
 image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process
 them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :)
 
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 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howelltaoofda...@... wrote:
 
 
  I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed with the
  images the CG10 takes.
 
  I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57
 
  I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 ratio at
  a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good.
 
  I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I can come
  up with from what I got.
 
  David
  http://www.disposablemedia.ca
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote:
 
   I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot
   my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters on that
   video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades.
   I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol
   grip on the Xacti is great though.
 
  I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation
  especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.
 
  But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
  As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how
  the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
  perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.
 
  Jay
 
  --
  http://ryanishungry.com
  http://jaydedman.com
  http://twitter.com/jaydedman
  917 371 6790
 
 
 





[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread David Howell
I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed with the 
images the CG10 takes.

I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57

I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 ratio at a 
higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good.

I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I can come up 
with from what I got.

David
http://www.disposablemedia.ca

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote:

  I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot my 
  latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters on that 
  video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades.
  I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol 
  grip on the Xacti is great though.
 
 I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation
 especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.
 
 But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
 As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how
 the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
 perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.
 
 Jay
 
 --
 http://ryanishungry.com
 http://jaydedman.com
 http://twitter.com/jaydedman
 917 371 6790





[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread David Howell
One other thing. For the manual control freak, there are a tons of manual 
settings on this camera. You can use it in full automatic mode or make 
everything manual. I havent seen a small camera like this that has manual focus 
before. I was very happy to find that out :)

It certainly is impressive and feature rich for the price point.

David
http://www.disposablemedia.ca

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell taoofda...@... wrote:

 I added a little contrast to the images as the sun was really blowing out 
 everything. Not much more than that though.
 
 Thanks
 
 David
 http://www.disposablemedia.ca
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Lim brainopera@ wrote:
 
  David,
 Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of
  image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process
  them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :)
  
  Kevin Lim
  Cyberculturalist
  http://theory.isthereason.com
  This email is:   [ ] bloggable[X] ask first   [ ] private
  email locator: â•â•—â•â•â•¦â•— â•`╚╣â•`â•`╚╗ 
  ╚═╩═╩═╝
  
  
  
  On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howelltaoofdavid@ wrote:
  
  
   I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed with 
   the
   images the CG10 takes.
  
   I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57
  
   I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 ratio 
   at
   a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good.
  
   I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I can 
   come
   up with from what I got.
  
   David
   http://www.disposablemedia.ca
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote:
  
I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I 
shot
my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters on 
that
video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades.
I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The 
pistol
grip on the Xacti is great though.
  
   I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation
   especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.
  
   But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
   As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how
   the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
   perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.
  
   Jay
  
   --
   http://ryanishungry.com
   http://jaydedman.com
   http://twitter.com/jaydedman
   917 371 6790
  
  
  
 





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread Actor Mark
Great shots and only a half hour from my house..:-0  The inner Harbour that
is...
Mark
 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: David Howell
Date: 01/07/2009 7:20:28 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy
today?
 



One other thing. For the manual control freak, there are a tons of manual
settings on this camera. You can use it in full automatic mode or make
everything manual. I havent seen a small camera like this that has manual
focus before. I was very happy to find that out :)

It certainly is impressive and feature rich for the price point.

David
http://www.disposablemedia.ca

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell taoofda...@... wrote:

 I added a little contrast to the images as the sun was really blowing out
everything. Not much more than that though.
 
 Thanks
 
 David
 http://www.disposablemedia.ca
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Lim brainopera@ wrote:
 
  David,
  Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of
  image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process
  them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :)
  
  Kevin Lim
  Cyberculturalist
  http://theory.isthereason.com
  This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private
  email locator: â•â•—â•â•â•¦â•— â•`â•šâ•£â•`â•`â•šâ•—
╚═╩═╩═╝
  
  
  
  On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howelltaoofdavid@ wrote:
  
  
   I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed
with the
   images the CG10 takes.
  
   I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57
  
   I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3
ratio at
   a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good.
  
   I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I
can come
   up with from what I got.
  
   David
   http://www.disposablemedia.ca
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote:
  
I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I
shot
my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters
on that
video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was
cross-fades.
I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The
pistol
grip on the Xacti is great though.
  
   I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great
recommendation
   especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.
  
   But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
   As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love
how
   the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
   perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.
  
   Jay
  
   --
   http://ryanishungry.com
   http://jaydedman.com
   http://twitter.com/jaydedman
   917 371 6790
  
  
  
 




 

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[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?

2009-07-01 Thread David Howell
Wha!?

You live here in Victoria?

That's awesome! We should go out shooting some time :)

David
http://www.disposablemedia.ca

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,  Actor Mark actorma...@... wrote:

 Great shots and only a half hour from my house..:-0  The inner Harbour that
 is...
 Mark
  
  
 ---Original Message---
  
 From: David Howell
 Date: 01/07/2009 7:20:28 PM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy
 today?
  
 
 
 
 One other thing. For the manual control freak, there are a tons of manual
 settings on this camera. You can use it in full automatic mode or make
 everything manual. I havent seen a small camera like this that has manual
 focus before. I was very happy to find that out :)
 
 It certainly is impressive and feature rich for the price point.
 
 David
 http://www.disposablemedia.ca
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell taoofdavid@ wrote:
 
  I added a little contrast to the images as the sun was really blowing out
 everything. Not much more than that though.
  
  Thanks
  
  David
  http://www.disposablemedia.ca
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Lim brainopera@ wrote:
  
   David,
   Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of
   image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process
   them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :)
   
   Kevin Lim
   Cyberculturalist
   http://theory.isthereason.com
   This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private
   email locator: â•â•â€Ã¢â€¢Ã¢â€¢ÂÃ¢â€¢Â¦Ã¢â€¢â€ 
   â•`â•šâ•£â•`â•`â•šâ•â€
 ╚═╩═╩═╝
   
   
   
   On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howelltaoofdavid@ wrote:
   
   
I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed
 with the
images the CG10 takes.
   
I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57
   
I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3
 ratio at
a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good.
   
I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I
 can come
up with from what I got.
   
David
http://www.disposablemedia.ca
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote:
   
 I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I
 shot
 my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters
 on that
 video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was
 cross-fades.
 I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The
 pistol
 grip on the Xacti is great though.
   
I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great
 recommendation
especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.
   
But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love
 how
the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.
   
Jay
   
--
http://ryanishungry.com
http://jaydedman.com
http://twitter.com/jaydedman
917 371 6790
   
   
   
  
 
 
 
 
  
 
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