Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo Day 19
I really like this, and I think a lot of video work blogging is more a video of the pose. Manufacturing significance instead of just looking, finding, and when finding something you think is worth sharing, sharing it. This is the value of blogging, even of some aspects of twitter, where gems arise within the everyday. In some ways I think it is also a 'slap in the face' to some aspects of direct cinema and the like since a lot of this work shot enormous ratios and then made very elegant structures through their editing, whereas the sort of work that videoblogging participates in is much closer to the everyday life world of and for all of us. It gets its texture not from one amazing 2 hour film cut from hundreds of hours of being in an institution but from 30 seconds sliced out of today that will sit amongst lots of other slices. So yes, a big reinvention but with this sort of shift. Would you agree? Or do you have quite a different take and see it as much closer to these traditions? (On the other hand a camera in your phone is pretty much Astruc's Camera Stylo isn't it?). Ill pick up this question. I certianly think videoblogging follows the same train of thought as Direct Cinema (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_cinema). But while they had the ability to be nimble, they still had to raise enormous sums of money and fight for even limited distribution. Wiseman, Pennebaker, Maysles brothers all ended up recording famous people so they could get people to buy into it. Videoblogging takes the technical idea of recording everyday life to it's logical conclusion. Instead of showing what Bob Dylan does in regular life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dont_Look_Back), we can show ourselves. I do agree that Direct Cinema documentaries was about shooting hundreds of hours...then editing down to 60-90 minutes. This is different than recording moments in life and posting individually. For the video about my mom, I shot 52 clips..and used 28 of them. I edited each clip down to its essential. I like to make little movies where I walk people through an experience. But I also like what youve always advocated and lately come closer to building: a fragmentary system. No editing. A database-driven experience where I can go through your archives of clips based on keywords. http://vogmae.net.au/fragments/ So some of what we're doing is traditional storytelling but with renewed energy. Stuff we've never seen before. Totally mundane life captured on video by the person herself and archived for history. We also have the ability to present video in totally new ways through networked clips. Ultimately, it's still about communicating which means I need to make my work interesting enough to attract others. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo Day 19
Glad you picked this up, Jay - have been meaning to find the time to reply to you properly, Adrian - and will! Combo of family funeral, deadlines and chicken pox have meant time is rather squeezed. On 26-Nov-09, at 4:05 PM, Jay dedman wrote: Ill pick up this question. I certianly think videoblogging follows the same train of thought as Direct Cinema (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_cinema). But while they had the ability to be nimble, they still had to raise enormous sums of money and fight for even limited distribution. Wiseman, Pennebaker, Maysles brothers all ended up recording famous people so they could get people to buy into it. Videoblogging takes the technical idea of recording everyday life to it's logical conclusion. Instead of showing what Bob Dylan does in regular life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dont_Look_Back), we can show ourselves. I do agree that Direct Cinema documentaries was about shooting hundreds of hours...then editing down to 60-90 minutes. This is different than recording moments in life and posting individually. For the video about my mom, I shot 52 clips..and used 28 of them. I edited each clip down to its essential. I like to make little movies where I walk people through an experience. But I also like what youve always advocated and lately come closer to building: a fragmentary system. No editing. A database-driven experience where I can go through your archives of clips based on keywords. http://vogmae.net.au/fragments/ So some of what we're doing is traditional storytelling but with renewed energy. Stuff we've never seen before. Totally mundane life captured on video by the person herself and archived for history. We also have the ability to present video in totally new ways through networked clips. Ultimately, it's still about communicating which means I need to make my work interesting enough to attract others. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo Day 19
Sorry to hear about the chickenpox, assume kids not adults? And commiserations re the funeral. Am I the only one who gets confused between the clouds and videoblogging list for these conversations? Just by the content I had just assumed this was on artists in the clouds :-) On 27/11/2009, at 3:17 AM, Rupert wrote: Glad you picked this up, Jay - have been meaning to find the time to reply to you properly, Adrian - and will! Combo of family funeral, deadlines and chicken pox have meant time is rather squeezed. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo Day 19
Am I the only one who gets confused between the clouds and videoblogging list for these conversations? Just by the content I had just assumed this was on artists in the clouds :-) Haha the lists do tend to mix. I think https://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud is more advanced research for folks wanting the deep technical discussions and theory. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
[videoblogging] NaVloPoMo Day 26
I did something a little unconventional, so sorry it won't show up in the usual video feeds! http://jenniferproctor.com/?p=327 Off to Brook! Cheers, Jen
