Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit
Pete Prodoehl wrote: I always wonder about this... I mean, to some degree, those folks all started in old media, actually making names for themselves on TV, radio, etc. That's where they grew their following, not as much in the new media, so they might be working under the idea that building their brands is of greater importance than promoting podcasting, videoblogging, etc to the general public. More voices from the masses could equal less of their own brands in the spotlight. I entirely agree on this point. Most of these folks were forced into this new online career path with the demise of Tech/G4/ZDTV (whatever it was called). While innovative in their ability to take advantage of these new technologies, they mostly likely still hold some biases about being what it means to be a broadcaster. Its similar to the who is a journalist debate thats been raging for a while now. Josh Leo wrote: I prefer to make videos about the rest of life outside of the internet.. I find it to be much more fulfilling and dramatic.. ...and please continue to do so. I enjoy them greatly. TWiT for me is background noise while I write code. I actually pay attention when I watch your videos. It is always tough because the people who are constantly using the internet and pioneering new ways to use it, are interested in tech stuff more than personal stories. (understandably so) So Internet Success is determined by And so the continued search for that sweet spot somewhere between the Slashdot/Digg crowd and the YouTube/MySpace mob continues +nathan __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
Deirdre Straughan wrote: So can we please drop this angle of the discussion as silly and irresponsible? You are, after all, making quasi-criminal charges against the executives of Veoh, accusing them of acting to deliberately mislead investors. There are laws against libel, even on the Internet. I wasn't accusing anyone of committing a crime, just questioning taste and tone. Pardon me if it came out a bit harsh. I'm actually a big fan of Veoh's desktop player, social networking, and p2p distribution technology, which I am guessing/hoping where most of their true value is. Regards, Nathan YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] More code goodness from I/ON
***warning: the following is an acronym heavy, developer-oriented email that may make videoblogging newbies and non-developer members of this list confused, disoriented, and mildly annoyed. If this might be you, I urge you - delete this email now and pretend you never received it :] *** Evening, everyone. I just wanted to let you all know about some open-source code that is now available here: http://ion.dev.java.net. This code comes from the I/ON Internet Video Console application available through our website at: http://openvision.tv I/ON ("eye-on") combines RSS aggregation with media management and playback to create a very compelling way to find and watch video on the web - in other words, it does videoblogging, podcasting, and bit torrent. Think of I/ON as the open-source, Java-based alternative to iTunes, FireAnt, iPodderX, or any of the other "-casting" or "-catcher" apps out there. I/ON was released under the GNU Public License, and we've been working to get all the code out to developers like you in useful modules. Well, we've finally some of the code that might be useful to some of you on this list in what we call the...(are you ready?)"The I/ON Media Player Framework"! I know its not a very exciting name, but what it enables is. In short, the MPF wraps Quicktime for Java, Java Media Framework, and, on Windows, Windows Media Player, and Macromedia Flash Player. It allows you to call one simple API, and in return you get back a Swing JPanel with a unified controller bar. You can get the code through our Java.net project using CVS, or just download the distribution ZIP from the "Documents Files" section the site. Take a look at the "MediaTest.java" sample file and you'll see how easy it is to use! Just like the rest of I/ON, this code is available now under the GPL license. So feel free to take the code, change it, and use it, just as long as you contribute your work back out to the world for the general good of humanity. We would also be very grateful to have developers join our project and contribute their own code, recommendations, and feedback. This is still an in-progress effort, but we really do want to make I/ON and the Media Player Framework a great solution for Java developers and end-users around the world. Thanks, and please contact me if you have any questions. +Nathan -- +my biz: http://openvision.tv +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] torrents
I think BitTorrent holds a lot of promise, as well, but as the name implies, its really only useful when many people download the same clip at the same time. If any videoblog should benefit from torrents, it would be Rocketboom, since it has a regular release schedule and a large, loyal following. Maybe Andrew can chime on how their adoption of torrents has gone? The other issue I see with it, is that for BitTorrent to really work, and for there to be a large number of seeders instead of just leechers, each client needs to have an open port in their firewall, which in most situations still requires a manual configuration of a firewall or router. Most people using BitTorrent today are early adopter geeks, who don't have an issue with this, but your average user is a bit more of a challenge. Hopefully methods for automatically configuring open firewall ports and/or means for establishing seeder participation without an inbound connection, will mature and standardize into the BitTorrent protocol and codebase. Finally, another alternative for those of you that are bandwidth challenged, is the Coral Content Distribution Network. I've been impressed with the results since we've used it for the Pawtucket Film Festival feed. You can think of it as BitTorrent between servers, sort of, or as an open-source Akimai. All you need to do is append a new domain to yours (http://myvideoblog.com/mycoolvideo1.mov; becomes http://myvideoblog.com.nyud.net:8090/mycoolvideo1.mov;), and voila, your content will be distributed and cached among the participating Coral CDN servers. People requesting your content will be routed to the closest, most available node. I like this model because it requires zero effort for the end-user. Learn more here: http://coralcdn.org/ +nathan Pete Prodoehl wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Im always curious about when torrents will get popular. this way no one has to worry about bandwidth. its always this full of potential idea. gary at torrentacracy has come up with this: http://www.torrentocracy.com/blog/archives/2005/09/pep_is_deliciou_1.shtml it bascially scrapes any feed and puts the items into torrents. he becomes the first seeder. in my mind, we will all have a home computer that becomes a server. we keep it on and connected at all times. youll have 100GB of your favorate video seeded on it. this is how we create a truly decentaralized video network. Well, even with torrents, you still have to worry about bandwidth. And my main home computer is used for work, so I really can't afford to slow it down serving our torrents. I do have another server at home that could, but it doesn't have the disk space, and I'd worry about it bogging down the network. I'm not against torrents, I'm very much in favor of them, but even I (who I consider to be pretty technically astute) am a bit skeptical about implementing torrents and the ramifications of doing so. Maybe I just need to do more reading... Is anyone in the videoblogging community experimenting with torrents today? Pete -- +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] torrents
There are some metrics in this presentation: http://coralcdn.org/docs/coral-nsdi04-slides.pdf We used Coral on our http://openvision.tv/pff site, and it seems a variety of nodes did access us to cache content, and that we also received messages at certain times that we had gone over a node limit. Regardless, we know that commercial systems such as Akamai do work, and what Coral and others are trying to do is build an open, affordable/free public utility that does the same thing. The hype to reality ratio seems no worse than with BitTorrent, to me. +Nathan Joshua Kinberg wrote: I think Coral is a cool idea, but I am not sure I've seen any metrics proving the fact that it actually does help distribute the bandwidth load. Can you point to any statistics? -Josh On 9/20/05, Nathanial Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think BitTorrent holds a lot of promise, as well, but as the name implies, its really only useful when many people download the same clip at the same time. If any videoblog should benefit from torrents, it would be Rocketboom, since it has a regular release schedule and a large, loyal following. Maybe Andrew can chime on how their adoption of torrents has gone? The other issue I see with it, is that for BitTorrent to really work, and for there to be a large number of seeders instead of just leechers, each client needs to have an open port in their firewall, which in most situations still requires a manual configuration of a firewall or router. Most people using BitTorrent today are early adopter geeks, who don't have an issue with this, but your average user is a bit more of a challenge. Hopefully methods for automatically configuring open firewall ports and/or means for establishing seeder participation without an inbound connection, will mature and standardize into the BitTorrent protocol and codebase. Finally, another alternative for those of you that are bandwidth challenged, is the Coral Content Distribution Network. I've been impressed with the results since we've used it for the Pawtucket Film Festival feed. You can think of it as BitTorrent between servers, sort of, or as an open-source Akimai. All you need to do is append a new domain to yours (http://myvideoblog.com/mycoolvideo1.mov; becomes http://myvideoblog.com.nyud.net:8090/mycoolvideo1.mov;), and voila, your content will be distributed and cached among the participating Coral CDN servers. People requesting your content will be routed to the closest, most available node. I like this model because it requires zero effort for the end-user. Learn more here: http://coralcdn.org/ +nathan Pete Prodoehl wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Im always curious about when torrents will get popular. this way no one has to worry about bandwidth. its always this full of potential idea. gary at torrentacracy has come up with this: http://www.torrentocracy.com/blog/archives/2005/09/pep_is_deliciou_1.shtml it bascially scrapes any feed and puts the items into torrents. he becomes the first seeder. in my mind, we will all have a home computer that becomes a server. we keep it on and connected at all times. youll have 100GB of your favorate video seeded on it. this is how we create a truly decentaralized video network. Well, even with torrents, you still have to worry about bandwidth. And my main home computer is used for work, so I really can't afford to slow it down serving our torrents. I do have another server at home that could, but it doesn't have the disk space, and I'd worry about it bogging down the network. I'm not against torrents, I'm very much in favor of them, but even I (who I consider to be pretty technically astute) am a bit skeptical about implementing torrents and the ramifications of doing so. Maybe I just need to do more reading... Is anyone in the videoblogging community experimenting with torrents today? Pete -- +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] torrents
Michael Sullivan wrote: What do you think about dijjer.org http://dijjer.org? Its like a fusion of Coral and BitTorrent. Seems interesting, a bit like OMN.org/Kontiki Grid, as well. Seems like they have also solved the firewall configuration issue. However, I like the idea of Coral because there is no client piece, no desktop configuration. Desktop users get a bit paranoid when unknown packets start flowing in and out of their systems, especially with all these new-fangled Windows software firewalls. You may not squeeze all the potential capacity of adding end-users into the mix, but you also reduce the chance there will be a problem downloading your content. In all, a way to make this happen easily seems like the next big thing in terms of video distribution services, the question is whether it will be a new BitTorrent style open protocol, an open service such as Prodigem, or a commercial venture like Brightcove or OMN/Kontiki who will solve it in such a way that it just works like magic. +Nathan -- +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Pawtucket Film Festival filmcast
Hi, all. One of these things we're doing at ONTV aside from developing the open-source media aggregator I/ON (eye-on) is working with independent media groups and non-profits to help them start utilizing all the great technology that is emerging in this field of participatory culture. My good friend and fellow human rights activist, Rick Roth, has been sponsoring the Pawtucket Film Festival (http://www.mirrorimage.com/mi/film.html) for six years now. I was demonstrating I/ON to him, and giving him the general low down on videoblogging, a few weeks ago, and he asked if we could use this to take the festival online. I said yes, though since we basically had no budget and little time, I was a bit concerned about fulfilling this promise. Fortunately, we ended getting seven filmmakers involved, who had never heard of videoblogging before, and even got them to agree to use the Creative Commons license. They sent us their DVDs, and using a combination of FFMPEGX and Quicktime, we were able to create an automated process to rip the DVDs and encode them into MPEG-4, H.264, and WMV. We're offering the films, which will be released the same day they are screened at the festival, as both videos on a page and through RSS, that will utilize BitTorrent for the high-resolution videos. We're using the amazing Broadcast Machine from Participatory Culture (http://participatoryculture.org/bm/) on the backend to serve up the torrents and feeds, and Coral CDN (coralcdn.org) and Archive.org when we can to reduce our bandwidth load. Finally, we're calling it a filmcast, as videoblog didn't quite seem right, though we usually end up saying that we are using the same technology as podcasting and videoblogging. We'll have comments, permalinks, and paypal donations as well. You can learn more about it and subcribe to the feed here: http://openvision.tv/pff If you're anywhere near Pawtucket, Rhode Island, I encourage you to attend the festival in person! Also, if there are any other groups out there who'd like to organized a similar event, we'd be glad to consult or help you make it happen. Our rates start at a warm meal and few free t-shirts, and scale up to multi-million dollar budgets ;) +Nathan http://openvision.tv Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] no place for citizen journalism
There are still some citizens out there willing to take the risk. Via Current.Tv videoblog: http://current.tv/blog/items/401941.htm Deirdre Straughan wrote: ...even the pros are running the other way. At least the wise ones are: The reports coming out of New Orleans right now are just unreal. People are getting beyond desperate and it's only a matter of time before someone in the media gets shot. I'm urging anyone who can contact your people on the area - get them out before all hell breaks loose. You can always go back after the military has regained control. If you don't believe me, then just read this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9156612/ It's the same thing on CNN and Foxnews too. For God's sake, get clear of this while you still can. No story is worth dying for, not even this one. from http://b-roll.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009177 -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.straughan.com http://www.straughan.com (personal) www.tvblob.com http://www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Katrina Vlogs - Where Are They?
Look like Current.Tv has the first, true videoblog-style post of a rescue effort: http://current.tv/blog/items/401941.htm http://current.tv/blog/items/401941.htm Kunga wrote: Yeah especially if you use a Mac. NO CAN VIEW. CHOPE -- +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!
(jumping into this thread late - i thought everyone was talking about I/ON and here you are discussing PDFs - hmph!) Thanks for the feedback, Kunga. I'll look into why my Thunderbird client is misbehaving. Otherwise, we haven't applied to be listed in iTunes yet. I suppose we should. As for being the counter-ANT, well, I would more call it the alterna-ANT, or just another choice for people. I have no interest in countering anyone in this community - my goals are to work towards countering the entrenched powers that be at least in ideals, creativity, and approach, if not in terms of actual market success. Otherwise, I'm glad to consider adding PDF support in I/ON. We're a Media Aggregator, and if that's your Media then so be it! (I think we'll have this in Beta 2 hopefully) Regards, Nathan Kunga wrote: Nathan, Your text is not wrapping in your posts when displayed on a Mac Tiger Mail client. Have you guys applied to be listed at the iTunes Podcast Directory yet? I can't find you listed no matter how many different search items I try. So this is the counter ANT? Well it doesn't see PDFs. And since I plan on using PDFs a lot with my video and audio posts - separate of course as iTunes can't see more than one - this is a limitation I can't handle. This is a publisher's point of view. Completely not necessarily appropriate. -- +my life: http://nathan.freitas.net +my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn +my cause: http://studentsforafreetibet.org/blog +my skype: nathanialfreitas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/