Re: [videoblogging] .swf or .flv
I don't find that to be true, though I haven't tested all aggregators. I can view my own SWF vlogs directly in FireANT and (as of recently) Google Reader. Would be happy to test with more if someone points me to them. On 4/24/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Gene,welcome to the group!if you want to be able to let people see your vids using an aggregator, flash is not the way to go...although i understand fireANT can read them, most others can't. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] .swf or .flv
I use both FLV and SWF, and can't tell that there is a difference. If I use the same compression settings, the file size comes out exactly the same. The difference is that in SWF I can embed a player so it play directly on the page or in an aggregator without an additional player. I use the FLV files on the site with a player and also create SWFs and M4Vs for download. On 4/24/06, Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Group, Gene here. I'm just getting started with internet video, and was wondering if flash video is the way to go. If so, can someone advise me of the difference, advantage or disadvantage between .swf format and .flv format? Which would you recommend. I have some video software, and can convert .avi files to .swf, but can't convert to .flv. I'd appreciate a little tip. Thanks, Gene Yahoo! Groups Links -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] .swf or .flv
On 4/26/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't find that to be true, though I haven't tested all aggregators. I can view my own SWF vlogs directly in FireANT and (as of recently) Google Reader. Would be happy to test with more if someone points me to them. On 4/24/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Gene,welcome to the group!if you want to be able to let people see your vids using an aggregator, flash is not the way to go...although i understand fireANT can read them, most others can't. Here's the issue, there are four ways to do it:1. Post just a .flv file - this will work with aggregators but you won't have a player on your site. (I believe fireant includes it's own player). 2. You can post a .swf with the .flv embeded. This works in aggregators (as long as they can play flash).3. You can post a .swf with an absolute link to the .flv, ie http://yourserver.com/video.flv - this works but what happens is that just the .swf file gets syndicated and on playback it connects to your server and downloads the .flv4. You can post a .swf file with a relative link to the .flv ie - /video.flv - the problem here is the .swf gets syndicated and then on playback it can't find the .flv I don't know which services do it the 4th way with the relative link but last time I checked quite a few did - like YouTube.-Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] .swf or .flv
.flv is to .swf as .psd is to .jpg. In other words -- the .flv file is the original huge working document that you make when you make a flash animation. Ie: open Flash the program, start a new document, do a bunch of stuff, save it. Then later you can open the flash document -- saved in the .flv format and change things, keep working, etc. Once you are ready to post to the web, you export a flash movie, and create a .swf file. The .swf file is much smaller, more efficient / compressed, etc. If for some reason you erased the original .flv, and then wanted to make changes to the move, you'd be stuck. You cannot open the .swf file that's been exported and make and changes to the original -- you need the .flv file. There's nothing to do with a .flv file on the web. Browsers don't know what the heck that is. It's just for working... Much like Photoshop. Make a doc in Photoshop and save it -- and you've got a .psd. You can make lots of layers and masks and effects... and then when you are ready, save for web to create a .jpg (or .gif) and then use the .jpg on the web. The original .psd is much to big for the internet + browsers have no idea what a .psd file is -- the .jpg is flattened and compressed and doesn't have any of the layer / mask / effect / text layer info in it -- so you cannot modify it the way you can modify a .psd. That's how it works when you've got the program Flash installed on your system and use it to make a project. These online transcoders don't make a .flv file (i don't think) -- I'm under the impression they just translate the .mov file (or whatever) straight into a .swf. (Someone correct me if i'm wrong.) It's cool because you get a flash movie .swf without needing to own Flash or take all the time to build a project. It's not as cool because the formulaic nature on the online transcoder isn't going to make the best possible flash movie --only by doing a custom compress will you get the best results possible. Also everyone should just know that Flash does about 200x as many cool techie things then simply pump video out in a format that is viewable by lots of browsers -- AND flash does much more than the stupid ugly animated billboards that seem to dominate commercial websites these days. That's the most common use of Flash, but not the best / most artistic / most creative use of it. It's a powerful development platform that can do much more. Another example of everyone copying each other so much that an utter lack of imagination has dominated a medium and crowded out the artistic possibilities. (Not killed them off completely, by no means, but has overshadowed.) jen jenSimmons http://www.jensimmons.com On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Gene wrote: Hi Group, Gene here. I'm just getting started with internet video, and was wondering if flash video is the way to go. If so, can someone advise me of the difference, advantage or disadvantage between .swf format and .flv format? Which would you recommend. I have some video software, and can convert .avi files to .swf, but can't convert to .flv. I'd appreciate a little tip. Thanks, Gene YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] .swf or .flv
i thought that was an .fla (or is that an old flash extension now) Jen Simmons wrote: .flv is to .swf as .psd is to .jpg. In other words -- the .flv file is the original huge working document that you make when you make a flash animation. Ie: open Flash the program, start a new document, do a bunch of stuff, save it. Then later you can open the flash document -- saved in the .flv format and change things, keep working, etc. Once you are ready to post to the web, you export a flash movie, and create a .swf file. The .swf file is much smaller, more efficient / compressed, etc. If for some reason you erased the original .flv, and then wanted to make changes to the move, you'd be stuck. You cannot open the .swf file that's been exported and make and changes to the original -- you need the .flv file. There's nothing to do with a .flv file on the web. Browsers don't know what the heck that is. It's just for working... Much like Photoshop. Make a doc in Photoshop and save it -- and you've got a .psd. You can make lots of layers and masks and effects... and then when you are ready, save for web to create a .jpg (or .gif) and then use the .jpg on the web. The original .psd is much to big for the internet + browsers have no idea what a .psd file is -- the .jpg is flattened and compressed and doesn't have any of the layer / mask / effect / text layer info in it -- so you cannot modify it the way you can modify a .psd. That's how it works when you've got the program Flash installed on your system and use it to make a project. These online transcoders don't make a .flv file (i don't think) -- I'm under the impression they just translate the .mov file (or whatever) straight into a .swf. (Someone correct me if i'm wrong.) It's cool because you get a flash movie .swf without needing to own Flash or take all the time to build a project. It's not as cool because the formulaic nature on the online transcoder isn't going to make the best possible flash movie --only by doing a custom compress will you get the best results possible. Also everyone should just know that Flash does about 200x as many cool techie things then simply pump video out in a format that is viewable by lots of browsers -- AND flash does much more than the stupid ugly animated billboards that seem to dominate commercial websites these days. That's the most common use of Flash, but not the best / most artistic / most creative use of it. It's a powerful development platform that can do much more. Another example of everyone copying each other so much that an utter lack of imagination has dominated a medium and crowded out the artistic possibilities. (Not killed them off completely, by no means, but has overshadowed.) jen jenSimmons http://www.jensimmons.com On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Gene wrote: Hi Group, Gene here. I'm just getting started with internet video, and was wondering if flash video is the way to go. If so, can someone advise me of the difference, advantage or disadvantage between .swf format and .flv format? Which would you recommend. I have some video software, and can convert .avi files to .swf, but can't convert to .flv. I'd appreciate a little tip. Thanks, Gene YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] .swf or .flv
On 4/25/06, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .flv is to .swf as .psd is to .jpg.In other words -- the .flv file is the original huge working documentthat you make when you make a flash animation. Ie: open Flash theprogram, start a new document, do a bunch of stuff, save it. Then later you can open the flash document -- saved in the .flv format and changethings, keep working, etc. Once you are ready to post to the web, youexport a flash movie, and create a .swf file. Hey Jen,You have .flv confused with .fla. Flash saves it's projects documents as.fla. The Flash video files are .flv. Those can play in html (don't know if they'll play just linked to directly). Dierdre for example posts .flv files on her videoblog. The problem with the .flv by itself is that it doesn't really have a controller. You can right-click on the video and stop or rewind it. Now if you want a player you can make one of your own as a .swf or use the one that comes with the Flash program. Then you have two options: 1. you can link the .flv to the .swf with either an absolute or a relative link. If you use a relative link syndication in something like Fireant will not work. 2. you can embed the .flv in the .swf and distribute one file - a big giant .swf file. -Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] .swf or .flv
oh. Hey everybody -- change .flv with .fla in every instance in my email. And well, uh, realize I was answering a question that wasn't asked. Sorry. I recited a lesson I taughting someone else earlier today without realizing I had no idea what I was talking about .flv, hmm I don't know what that is. Oh, look, Michael does... On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:39 PM, Michael Verdi wrote: The Flash video files are .flv. Those can play in html (don't know if they'll play just linked to directly). Dierdre for example posts .flv files on her videoblog. The problem with the .flv by itself is that it doesn't really have a controller. You can right-click on the video and stop or rewind it. Now if you want a player you can make one of your own as a .swf or use the one that comes with the Flash program. Then you have two options: 1. you can link the .flv to the .swf with either an absolute or a relative link. If you use a relative link syndication in something like Fireant will not work. 2. you can embed the .flv in the .swf and distribute one file - a big giant .swf file. -Verdi Thanks for bailing me out Verdi. :-) jen YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] .swf or .flv
Hi Group, Gene here. I'm just getting started with internet video, and was wondering if flash video is the way to go. If so, can someone advise me of the difference, advantage or disadvantage between .swf format and .flv format? Which would you recommend. I have some video software, and can convert .avi files to .swf, but can't convert to .flv. I'd appreciate a little tip. Thanks, Gene YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] .swf or .flv
hi Gene,welcome to the group!if you want to be able to let people see your vids using an aggregator, flash is not the way to go...although i understand fireANT can read them, most others can't.i'd recommend checking out freevlog.org to find out about how to format your vids.On 4/23/06, Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Group,Gene here. I'm just getting started with internet video, and was wondering if flash video is the way to go.If so, can someone advise me of the difference, advantage ordisadvantage between .swf format and .flv format? Which would yourecommend.I have some video software, and can convert .avi files to .swf, but can't convert to .flv.I'd appreciate a little tip.Thanks,GeneYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
