Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
On 2/26/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another important consideration that people often overlook is that these young teenagers will soon be the leaders of the world. Very soon. very true. on another note, MySpace is also the cool place to be NOW. but what happpens in 3 years? suddenly MySpace is no longer cool and its Schibiz (my new imaginary site). all the MySpace stuff just dies away. correct me if im wrong: as a blogger, Im making a space on the web that will last. I expect my blog to document my life. As a Myspace-like sites, it seems more about current interactions...then on to the next online space. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
hey.. how do i get a Schibiz account!! .. put me on the waiting list jay.. please.. pruddy please ;) -- URL: http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com URL: http://www.kleindesign.co.uk SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
On 2/27/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: correct me if im wrong:as a blogger, Im making a space on the web that will last.I expect my blog to document my life.As a Myspace-like sites, it seems more about currentinteractions...then on to the next online space. As previously mentioned, teenagers don't typically care about what lasts. They do see MySpace as documenting their lives, or at least some aspect of their personalities, for the world to see. That doesn't seem a lot different from what we're doing. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
Frank Carver wrote: Sunday, February 26, 2006, 2:39:39 AM, Jay dedman wrote: but for whatever reason, MySpace still seems like a dead end. doesnt seem like it will last. I like to think that media we create will last...so it means something in the future. I wonder if MySpace has that kind of longevity. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1650209page=1 Unfortunately, longevity is not the point. Longevity is the kind of thing that concerns the middle-aged rather than the teenagers who form the backbone of a service like MySpace. So true... I've been working on a site about the history of the local music scene, and in going through old tapes, zines and flyers, it's often difficult to determine what year it was from. I'm guilty of this as well. A band I was in recorded some material, and when digitizing it, I had to guess on the year it was recorded. I think that running a weblog for over 8 years that still has the posts from the beginning available online has reinforced this idea for me. I want the things I make to stick around, if for no one else, than for myself. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
Jay dedman wrote: on another note, MySpace is also the cool place to be NOW. but what happpens in 3 years? suddenly MySpace is no longer cool and its Schibiz (my new imaginary site). all the MySpace stuff just dies away. correct me if im wrong: as a blogger, Im making a space on the web that will last. I expect my blog to document my life. As a Myspace-like sites, it seems more about current interactions...then on to the next online space. As mentioned Friendster was 'teh kewl' and fell out of favor, and now MySpace is the happening thing. This will probably (hopefully!) change. As for Momentshowing, or any weblog/videoblog hosted on a server fully controlled by the person creating it, we can hope it will stick around for at least the lifetime of the creator, as long as the server bill gets paid. Of course you can always upload to Ourmedia/archive.org as well, so it'll (in theory) be around even after you die. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
Sunday, February 26, 2006, 2:39:39 AM, Jay dedman wrote: but for whatever reason, MySpace still seems like a dead end. doesnt seem like it will last. I like to think that media we create will last...so it means something in the future. I wonder if MySpace has that kind of longevity. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1650209page=1 Unfortunately, longevity is not the point. Longevity is the kind of thing that concerns the middle-aged rather than the teenagers who form the backbone of a service like MySpace. Most children and young people live in a kind of eternal now, where it is assumed that things will be like this forever. It's not usually until a little later in life, when you have experienced change, felt loss and begun to ask yourself the definitive adult question should we have children yet? that longevity becomes a driving force. As a real example of this, one of my college students (aged around 17) while talking about styles of clothing, casually expressed that, in comparison to fashions from the past (say the 1980s and 1990s), today's fashions would probably last forever. When I probed a bit deeper, the explanation was that today's styles are ordinary, whereas the others were just wierd. This attitude, that the the strangeness and change was all in the past and things will just remain as they are from now on, goes a long way in trying to understand both the success of observably transient phenomena such as MySpace, and failure of the many attempts to interest young people in politics. Keeping people in this passive, unquestioning, state is good news for advertisers and governments, so many cultures have developed elaborate ways of delaying the onset of adult responsibility. -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
Another important consideration that people often overlook is that these young teenagers will soon be the leaders of the world. Very soon. On Feb 26, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Frank Carver wrote: Sunday, February 26, 2006, 2:39:39 AM, Jay dedman wrote: but for whatever reason, MySpace still seems like a dead end. doesn't seem like it will last. I like to think that media we create will last...so it means something in the future. I wonder if MySpace has that kind of longevity. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1650209page=1 Unfortunately, longevity is not the point. Longevity is the kind of thing that concerns the middle-aged rather than the teenagers who form the backbone of a service like MySpace. Most children and young people live in a kind of eternal now, where it is assumed that things will be like this forever. It's not usually until a little later in life, when you have experienced change, felt loss and begun to ask yourself the definitive adult question should we have children yet? that longevity becomes a driving force. As a real example of this, one of my college students (aged around 17) while talking about styles of clothing, casually expressed that, in comparison to fashions from the past (say the 1980s and 1990s), today's fashions would probably last forever. When I probed a bit deeper, the explanation was that today's styles are ordinary, whereas the others were just wierd. This attitude, that the the strangeness and change was all in the past and things will just remain as they are from now on, goes a long way in trying to understand both the success of observably transient phenomena such as MySpace, and failure of the many attempts to interest young people in politics. Keeping people in this passive, unquestioning, state is good news for advertisers and governments, so many cultures have developed elaborate ways of delaying the onset of adult responsibility. -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
I was curious if any of you guys were on there? It's a great place actually to network and meet other people in the indie film world. Another online community waiting for you...haha. If you are, look me up: myspace.com/lynnlane Best, Lynn Lane Coal River Pictures www.CoalRiverPictures.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vlog: Docmaker on the Go www.domaker.blogspot.com coming soon: www.vlogumentarian.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
I was curious if any of you guys were on there? It's a great place actually to network and meet other people in the indie film world. Another online community waiting for you...haha. If you are, look me up: myspace.com/lynnlane can someone enlighten me here. why is a myspace blog different from a regular blog? I see people at work making buddies...is it that part of it? becasue you connect to otrher MySpace people? Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
Hey Jay, Dave Toole recently asked his 16yr old daughter to explain why she finds MySpace so interesting. I asked him to vlog it and share it with us. He posted it tonight on ourmedia and our SpinFlow vlog http://outhink.blogs.com/spinflow/2006/02/why_is_myspace_.html Jay dedman wrote: I was curious if any of you guys were on there? It's a great place actually to network and meet other people in the indie film world. Another online community waiting for you...haha. If you are, look me up: myspace.com/lynnlane can someone enlighten me here. why is a myspace blog different from a regular blog? I see people at work making "buddies"...is it that part of it? becasue you connect to otrher MySpace people? Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
Kinda off topic, but good if you are trying to understand the appeal of MySpace. Danah Boyd does research out of Berkeley, specifically in the youth social networking space. She had a presentation to AAAS recently covering MySpace specifically. If you are interested in the phenomenon, it's a good read. http://www.danah.org/papers/AAAS2006.htmlOn 2/25/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jay, Dave Toole recently asked his 16yr old daughter to explain why she finds MySpace so interesting. I asked him to vlog it and share it with us. He posted it tonight on ourmedia and our SpinFlow vlog http://outhink.blogs.com/spinflow/2006/02/why_is_myspace_.html Jay dedman wrote: I was curious if any of you guys were on there? It's a great placeactually to network and meet other people in the indie film world.Another online community waiting for you...haha.If you are, look me up: myspace.com/lynnlane can someone enlighten me here.why is a myspace blog different from a regular blog?I see people at work making buddies...is it that part of it?becasue you connect to otrher MySpace people? Jay--Adventures in Videoblogginghttp://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tvhttp://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.orghttp://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.orghttp://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.comhttp://xpressionvlog.blogspot.comaim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]skype: msandyspin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted TagamiPrincipal, Universus NetworksU N I V E R S U S . N E T SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
Dave Toole recently asked his 16yr old daughter to explain why she finds MySpace so interesting. I asked him to vlog it and share it with us. He posted it tonight on ourmedia and our SpinFlow vlog http://outhink.blogs.com/spinflow/2006/02/why_is_myspace_.html Talk about market research. this is exactly what i needed to understand. I needed to SEE what a typical user likes about MySpace. Dave asked all the right questions. i guess MySpace provides what i hear a lot of bloggers want. who's watching me? how many friends do i have? we all want an audience. I know thats why i got involved in videoblogging. I just wanted to meet other people. but for whatever reason, MySpace still seems like a dead end. doesnt seem like it will last. I like to think that media we create will last...so it means something in the future. I wonder if MySpace has that kind of longevity. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1650209page=1 jay Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
For a few confused souls out there, I should emphasis that I felt that *I* was off-topic, not Dave. Dave makes a relevant post. sheesh. Lots-o-love.On 2/25/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinda off topic, but good if you are trying to understand the appeal of MySpace. Danah Boyd does research out of Berkeley, specifically in the youth social networking space. She had a presentation to AAAS recently covering MySpace specifically. If you are interested in the phenomenon, it's a good read. http://www.danah.org/papers/AAAS2006.html On 2/25/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jay, Dave Toole recently asked his 16yr old daughter to explain why she finds MySpace so interesting. I asked him to vlog it and share it with us. He posted it tonight on ourmedia and our SpinFlow vlog http://outhink.blogs.com/spinflow/2006/02/why_is_myspace_.html Jay dedman wrote: I was curious if any of you guys were on there? It's a great placeactually to network and meet other people in the indie film world.Another online community waiting for you...haha.If you are, look me up: myspace.com/lynnlane can someone enlighten me here.why is a myspace blog different from a regular blog?I see people at work making buddies...is it that part of it?becasue you connect to otrher MySpace people? Jay--Adventures in Videoblogginghttp://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tvhttp://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.orghttp://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.orghttp://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.comhttp://xpressionvlog.blogspot.comaim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]skype: msandyspin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted TagamiPrincipal, Universus NetworksU N I V E R S U S . N E T -- Ted TagamiPrincipal, Universus NetworksU N I V E R S U S . N E T SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
