Re: [videoblogging] Don't believe your ... Was Re: Intro New Green Show from the Ask A Ninja Editor

[Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage]

Like farming endangered species for food to save them from extinction.

On 9/7/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Har har, that was fun. So resources are conserved by finding new ways
> to exploit them? Funny stuff, talking as if they were responsibly
> maintaining oil resources when in fact US oil production peaked about
> 8 years after that film was made.
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve Elbows
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Sorry Jay, I got that piece of greenwashing mixed up with this one,
> > >  that carries the same message and is narrated by Reagan.
> > >  http://www.archive.org/details/Heritage1963
> >
> > beautiful.
> >
> > jay
> >
> > --
> > http://jaydedman.com
> > 917 371 6790
> >
> > **check out the new look: ryanishungry.com**
> >
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[videoblogging] Don't believe your ... Was Re: Intro New Green Show from the Ask A Ninja Editor

[Steve Watkins]

Har har, that was fun. So resources are conserved by finding new ways
to exploit them? Funny stuff, talking as if they were responsibly
maintaining oil resources when in fact US oil production peaked about
8 years after that film was made.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sorry Jay, I got that piece of greenwashing mixed up with this one,
> >  that carries the same message and is narrated by Reagan.
> >  http://www.archive.org/details/Heritage1963
> 
> beautiful.
> 
> jay
> 
> -- 
> http://jaydedman.com
> 917 371 6790
> 
> **check out the new look: ryanishungry.com**
>

Re: [videoblogging] Don't believe your ... Was Re: Intro New Green Show from the Ask A Ninja Editor

[Jay dedman]

> Sorry Jay, I got that piece of greenwashing mixed up with this one,
>  that carries the same message and is narrated by Reagan.
>  http://www.archive.org/details/Heritage1963

beautiful.

jay

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917 371 6790

**check out the new look: ryanishungry.com**

[videoblogging] Don't believe your ... Was Re: Intro New Green Show from the Ask A Ninja Editor

[damiensomerset]

Sorry Jay, I got that piece of greenwashing mixed up with this one,
that carries the same message and is narrated by Reagan.

http://www.archive.org/details/Heritage1963















--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Fascinating stuff. I neer saw the Indian campaign before because I am
> English and born in 75.
> 
> So the limited good they do is really just a shield to keep certain
> corporations safe, to keep tougher legislation at bay, to pass the
> buck to the customer and away from industry.
> 
> Well, we can look back at more than 50 years of industry draggings its
> heels on the issues that count, and see just how successful they have
> been at delaying things. To me it looks like they are able to delay
> most things by at least a generation, and some things for far longer.
> 
> I was recently reading about the realities behind the previous
> largescale earth scare, the CFC ozone layer stuff that often dominated
> the news when I was growing up. At the time the UK news made it sound
> like humanity and industry were quite responsive to the problem, but
> when I look at the actual detail it seems like the corporation who
> made the CFCs dragged things out for quite a long time, and some bloke
> had even postulated that such substances could damage the atmosphere
> before such things were even put into widespread commercial use.
> 
> The combination of human tendency towards greed, and the ability to
> harness vast resources of the planet, have made for a lethal
> combination.  I dont think humans will make the needed change on their
> own, circumstances will force this change if resources start to run
> low, which common-sense suggests must happen sometime. But is this the
> story of our time? Its easy to look at the events of this century so
> far, and to think yes, this may be the high-tide mark for our wasteful
> societies, but it would also have been feasible to think that in the
> 70's ad then have watched as decades more passed.
> 
> Meanwhile the BBC have apparently cancelled a planned event 'planet
> relief' because it may have breached their 'impartiality guidelines'.
> Viewing figures for Live Earth were not amazing. People I talk to at
> work are a bit interested but not too much, and theres rather a large
> number who dont believe climate change is real. They think its just
> another excuse for raising taxes, or corporations profiting. I think
> its got something to do with peak oil myself, whilst at the same time
> Im sure we are pushing our luck with the planet. Maybe it is a combo
> of all of these things. Well whatever, I think humans only have the
> will to accept a modest decrease in lifestyle ease, and the major
> reductions in consumption that are required will not be a personal
> lifestyle choice, they will be mandatory due to scarcity.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "bordercollieaustralianshepherd"
>  wrote:
> >
> > lying eyes
> > 
> > Oh man it gets worse ... Iron Eyes Cody ...
> > 
> > This will break your heart ...
> > 
> > his real name is: Espera De Corti. 
> >  
> > 
> > A Sicilian, Working as an actor, playing the part of a Native American
> > Indian, pretending he was crying ...
> > 
> > Who was laughing all the way to the (piggy) bank?
> > 
> > Greedy Ba$tard$ ... 
> > 
> > was there greed when Wampum was the currency?
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wampum
> > 
> > 
> > > BTW – Did you know that the image of the Native American standing by
> > > the side of the road crying about pollution, from the 70's, is
> > > actually a greenwashing campaign and the organization Keep America
> > > Beautiful is funded by corporations.  The original video was also
> > > voiced by Ronald Reagan… God Bless America!
> >
>

[videoblogging] Don't believe your ... Was Re: Intro New Green Show from the Ask A Ninja Editor

[Steve Watkins]

Fascinating stuff. I neer saw the Indian campaign before because I am
English and born in 75.

So the limited good they do is really just a shield to keep certain
corporations safe, to keep tougher legislation at bay, to pass the
buck to the customer and away from industry.

Well, we can look back at more than 50 years of industry draggings its
heels on the issues that count, and see just how successful they have
been at delaying things. To me it looks like they are able to delay
most things by at least a generation, and some things for far longer.

I was recently reading about the realities behind the previous
largescale earth scare, the CFC ozone layer stuff that often dominated
the news when I was growing up. At the time the UK news made it sound
like humanity and industry were quite responsive to the problem, but
when I look at the actual detail it seems like the corporation who
made the CFCs dragged things out for quite a long time, and some bloke
had even postulated that such substances could damage the atmosphere
before such things were even put into widespread commercial use.

The combination of human tendency towards greed, and the ability to
harness vast resources of the planet, have made for a lethal
combination.  I dont think humans will make the needed change on their
own, circumstances will force this change if resources start to run
low, which common-sense suggests must happen sometime. But is this the
story of our time? Its easy to look at the events of this century so
far, and to think yes, this may be the high-tide mark for our wasteful
societies, but it would also have been feasible to think that in the
70's ad then have watched as decades more passed.

Meanwhile the BBC have apparently cancelled a planned event 'planet
relief' because it may have breached their 'impartiality guidelines'.
Viewing figures for Live Earth were not amazing. People I talk to at
work are a bit interested but not too much, and theres rather a large
number who dont believe climate change is real. They think its just
another excuse for raising taxes, or corporations profiting. I think
its got something to do with peak oil myself, whilst at the same time
Im sure we are pushing our luck with the planet. Maybe it is a combo
of all of these things. Well whatever, I think humans only have the
will to accept a modest decrease in lifestyle ease, and the major
reductions in consumption that are required will not be a personal
lifestyle choice, they will be mandatory due to scarcity.

Cheers

Steve
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "bordercollieaustralianshepherd"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> lying eyes
> 
> Oh man it gets worse ... Iron Eyes Cody ...
> 
> This will break your heart ...
> 
> his real name is: Espera De Corti. 
>  
> 
> A Sicilian, Working as an actor, playing the part of a Native American
> Indian, pretending he was crying ...
> 
> Who was laughing all the way to the (piggy) bank?
> 
> Greedy Ba$tard$ ... 
> 
> was there greed when Wampum was the currency?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wampum
> 
> 
> > BTW – Did you know that the image of the Native American standing by
> > the side of the road crying about pollution, from the 70's, is
> > actually a greenwashing campaign and the organization Keep America
> > Beautiful is funded by corporations.  The original video was also
> > voiced by Ronald Reagan… God Bless America!
>

[videoblogging] Don't believe your ... Was Re: Intro New Green Show from the Ask A Ninja Editor

[bordercollieaustralianshepherd]

lying eyes

Oh man it gets worse ... Iron Eyes Cody ...

This will break your heart ...

his real name is: Espera De Corti. 
 

A Sicilian, Working as an actor, playing the part of a Native American
Indian, pretending he was crying ...

Who was laughing all the way to the (piggy) bank?

Greedy Ba$tard$ ... 

was there greed when Wampum was the currency?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wampum


> BTW – Did you know that the image of the Native American standing by
> the side of the road crying about pollution, from the 70's, is
> actually a greenwashing campaign and the organization Keep America
> Beautiful is funded by corporations.  The original video was also
> voiced by Ronald Reagan… God Bless America!