[videoblogging] How would you have done it? Was: For Dan McVicar (was Re: Loren Feldman

2007-08-07 Thread ractalfece
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Besides a lot of people finding the video offensive, uncomfortable,
demeaning, hurtful 
 etc.., very little (at best as I have been able to follow the
thread) in the way of constructive 
 criticism.
 
 grabbing the bridge collapse to try to make my point. It took a
catastrophe to raise 
 awareness of the problem 
 
 Besides a better written skit with a clear message or stated
purpose, What could/should 
 have been done differently and still generated the kind of
conversation this video sparked?
 

I've been thinking about this.  

It's been pointed out in this thread, if you really read into this
video, there could be many interpretations, it could be a caricature
of pop culture that is harmful to the black community, for example.

But the problem is, his set-up doesn't allow for multiple
interpretations.  He spells it out in the intro that this is a
caricature of black tech bloggers. 

If he was the provocateur that he thinks he is, he would have left it
open by not telling us, this character I'm doing is supposed to be
black.  Then he could have at least pulled something like the Eminem
defense:  why are you upset about a white guy saying these misogynist
demeaning things in your tech community?  Aren't you aware of (or do
you just not care about) pop culture in the black community?

Oh wait, I bet that's coming later this week when we all get punk'd.

P.S.  Anybody remember when zefrank talked like a thug and said the
word ho twice?   He was smart enough not to preface it with, Hmm, I
wonder what it would be like if a black guy had a vlog...

http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/04/040406.html




[videoblogging] How would you have done it? Was: For Dan McVicar (was Re: Loren Feldman

2007-08-06 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Besides a lot of people finding the video offensive, uncomfortable, demeaning, 
hurtful 
etc.., very little (at best as I have been able to follow the thread) in the 
way of constructive 
criticism.

grabbing the bridge collapse to try to make my point. It took a catastrophe to 
raise 
awareness of the problem 

Besides a better written skit with a clear message or stated purpose, What 
could/should 
have been done differently and still generated the kind of conversation this 
video sparked?

A less insulting stereotypical caricature? No stereotype? A more extreme 
delivery (think 
Fight Club), Loren Feldman as MC Catastrophe spit'n out barbs against the 
inequalities 
still prevalent in our country today not just the net? As a Jew? Jewish Rabbi? 
As Loren 
Feldman the man or Loren Feldman the political commentator? Would it have 
been 
more powerful had he dropped the act and instead looked into the camera and 
stated 
Where are all the Black Tech Bloogers? and listed all that he might know and 
invite 
viewers to submit links and comments?

It certainly has me thinking again, not only about the meaning of the video, 
but friends I 
lost contact with. It emphasized just how different things are. It is much 
easier for me to 
locate white friends when I search the web.

I am still going back and forth with myself on this. I tried to see something 
in the video 
that was not stated, adding my own idea of what could have been done better to 
parody 
and satirize more effectively. I see parallels to the net today and the turn of 
the last 
century, especially the entertainment industry. That influenced my first 
responses and 
what I took to be his attempt to show what might be expected/feared/assumed in 
the 
minds of some.  

Pretty wild, the timing of his video. Was it done this way intentionally? Done 
to coincide 
with the KOS convention? What the hell? http://tinyurl.com/2zz9sr

I look for the best in people and things, often to my detriment. I sure wish 
he'd speak up 
about his intentions.

D



 ...it became clear that only a handful of the 1,500
 conventioneers -- bloggers, policy
 experts, party activists -- are African American,
 Latino or Asian. Of about 100 scheduled
 panels and workshops, less than a half-dozen dealt
 directly with women or minority
 issues.
 
 ..Cooper is worried about generating more
 inclusion, using the word no less than six
 times in 15 minutes.
 
 .I hate using the word 'diversity.' I don't
 know what we use there. But what we definitely
 need are voices from different communities, she
 says. And the problem, she adds,
 stretches beyond ethnic and gender inclusion.
 There's a socioeconomic gap, too.
 
 
 .Stoller half-jokingly says that the netroots
 community is full of white liberal men,
 It's also important to remember that this movement
 is still young. It's still not that
 advanced, it's still building coalitions, it's still
 maturing.
 
 
 Diversity of Opinion, if Not Opinionators
 At the Yearly Kos Bloggers' Convention, a Sea of
 Middle-Aged White Males
 By Jose Antonio Vargas
 Washington Post Staff Writer
 Monday, August 6, 2007; C01
 
 CHICAGO, Aug. 5 -- It's Sunday, day 4 of Yearly Kos,
 the major conference for progressive
 bloggers, and Gina Cooper, the confab's
 organizer-in-chief, surveys the ballroom of the
 massive McCormick Place Convention Center. A few
 hundred remaining conventioneers are
 having brunch, dining on eggs, bagels and sausage.
 
 Seven of the eight Democratic presidential
 candidates have paid their respects this
 weekend, and some 200 members of the credentialed
 press have filed their stories. A
 mere curiosity just two years ago, the progressive
 blogosphere has gone mainstream. But
 Cooper sees a problem.
 
 It's mostly white. More male than female, says the
 former high school math and science
 teacher turned activist. It's not very diverse.
 
 There goes the open secret of the netroots, or those
 who make up the community of the
 Internet grass-roots movement.
 
 For all the talk about the increasing influence of
 this growing group -- We are a
 community . . . a movement . . . an institution,
 Cooper said in a speech Saturday night --
 what gets scant attention is its demography. While
 the Huffington Post and Fire Dog Lake,
 both founded by women, are two of the most widely
 read blogs, the rock stars are mostly
 men, and many women bloggers complain of sexism and
 harassment in the blogosphere.
 
 Walking around McCormick Place during the weekend,
 it became clear that only a handful
 of the 1,500 conventioneers -- bloggers, policy
 experts, party activists -- are African
 American, Latino or Asian. Of about 100 scheduled
 panels and workshops, less than a
 half-dozen dealt directly with women or minority
 issues.
 
 A panel called Blogging While Female, held
 Saturday morning, was an aberration -- an
 overflow room of about 75, mostly women, a few of
 them minorities.
 
 How many of the women in the