Re: [videoblogging] My videoblogging roots and today's NYTimes article

2007-03-26 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
Josh,

You damn chalk terrorist. How do we know that white substance wasn't some
sort of poison or bomb material?

Ok, honestly, this is amazing, I watched the footage and got the gist of the
article.

I would feel pretty weird about this, if I were you and, in fact, I feel
pretty weird about it and I'm me.

The positive side is that you do have so much on record, and it's definately
a wake up call (in a series of recent wake up calls, including Josh Wolf)
for all of us.

... Richard

On 25 Mar 2007 10:06:10 -0700, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Today, I'm unsure how to react to this news -- having your person,
 property and rights violated is an unsettling experience. Would
 definitely like to hear your thoughts on this as I'm processing the
 information.

 On Friday morning, I was informed by a NYTimes reporter that recent
 documents uncovered just how far the NYPD went to suppress Free Speech
 -- mine and others -- at the Republican Convention in 2004. Here's
 what the NYTimes reported in the Sunday edition:

 City Police Spied Broadly Before G.O.P. Convention
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/nyregion/25infiltrate.html?ex=1332561600en=3af0cd0ac568e430ei=5124partner=permalinkexprod=permalink
 

 Bikes Against Bush http://www.bikesagainstbush.com was my graduate
 thesis project, a combination of mechanical engineering, WiFi,
 interactive mobile messaging, and videoblogging. It was featured in
 Popular Science magazine for the engineering design of the bicycle
 that printed chalk text messages sent through SMS and from my website
 onto streets and sidewalks in NYC.

 Apparently, the NYPD considered this project to be a threat and was
 determined to shut it down. They had a copy of the Popular Science
 article in a file along with 4 pages of notes as to why my project was
 a threat. This led to my bizarre arrest, which happened on national
 television while I was being interviewed by Ron Reagan on MSNBC's
 Hardball.

 I was arrested with no crime being committed. Just simply plucked from
 the street, jailed for 24 hours, and my computer, cell phone and
 bicycle confiscated and held for over a year (the bicycle was never
 returned). The fake charges against me were dropped 6 months later.

 The NYTimes article confirms what I had long suspected -- that the
 NYPD was unlawfully conducting surveillance of artists, activists, and
 others seeking to exercise free speech at the RNC convention in 2004.

 Here are the videos:

 The Bike Project
 http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/iloveny.mov

 The Arrest -- Street Footage
 http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/bikesarrest.mov

 MSNBC Interview
 http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/msnbc_8-29-2004_med1.mov

 BikesAgainstBush was important because it was one of the earliest
 demonstrations of the power of the blogosphere to distribute video --
 the raw street-footage of the arrest circulated around the blogosphere
 and was viewed by millions of people both before and after the edited
 version aired on MSNBC's Hardball.

 Immediately after this project, I began working on software to
 distribute video via RSS. I met Jay Dedman around this time in NYC,
 and we began working together. This became ANT (ANT's Not Television)
 and later FireAnt http://FireAnt.tv.

 I wanted to share my thoughts here, in the videoblogging community, as
 I'm reflecting today on the state of media, how far we've come and the
 work that remains...

 Best,
 Josh
  




-- 
Richard
http://richardhhall.org
Shows
http://richardshow.org
http://inspiredhealing.tv


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Re: [videoblogging] My videoblogging roots and today's NYTimes article

2007-03-26 Thread RANDY MANN
does the bike still work? where can i get one?

thats so cool execept the part where u got arested.
cant blame the cops for arresting you. you were sitting kinda aggressively

randy

On 26 Mar 2007 06:38:43 -0700, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   Josh,

 You damn chalk terrorist. How do we know that white substance wasn't some
 sort of poison or bomb material?

 Ok, honestly, this is amazing, I watched the footage and got the gist of
 the
 article.

 I would feel pretty weird about this, if I were you and, in fact, I feel
 pretty weird about it and I'm me.

 The positive side is that you do have so much on record, and it's
 definately
 a wake up call (in a series of recent wake up calls, including Josh Wolf)
 for all of us.

 ... Richard


 On 25 Mar 2007 10:06:10 -0700, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]jkinberg%40gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Today, I'm unsure how to react to this news -- having your person,
  property and rights violated is an unsettling experience. Would
  definitely like to hear your thoughts on this as I'm processing the
  information.
 
  On Friday morning, I was informed by a NYTimes reporter that recent
  documents uncovered just how far the NYPD went to suppress Free Speech
  -- mine and others -- at the Republican Convention in 2004. Here's
  what the NYTimes reported in the Sunday edition:
 
  City Police Spied Broadly Before G.O.P. Convention
  
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/nyregion/25infiltrate.html?ex=1332561600en=3af0cd0ac568e430ei=5124partner=permalinkexprod=permalink
  
 
  Bikes Against Bush http://www.bikesagainstbush.com was my graduate
  thesis project, a combination of mechanical engineering, WiFi,
  interactive mobile messaging, and videoblogging. It was featured in
  Popular Science magazine for the engineering design of the bicycle
  that printed chalk text messages sent through SMS and from my website
  onto streets and sidewalks in NYC.
 
  Apparently, the NYPD considered this project to be a threat and was
  determined to shut it down. They had a copy of the Popular Science
  article in a file along with 4 pages of notes as to why my project was
  a threat. This led to my bizarre arrest, which happened on national
  television while I was being interviewed by Ron Reagan on MSNBC's
  Hardball.
 
  I was arrested with no crime being committed. Just simply plucked from
  the street, jailed for 24 hours, and my computer, cell phone and
  bicycle confiscated and held for over a year (the bicycle was never
  returned). The fake charges against me were dropped 6 months later.
 
  The NYTimes article confirms what I had long suspected -- that the
  NYPD was unlawfully conducting surveillance of artists, activists, and
  others seeking to exercise free speech at the RNC convention in 2004.
 
  Here are the videos:
 
  The Bike Project
  http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/iloveny.mov
 
  The Arrest -- Street Footage
  http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/bikesarrest.mov
 
  MSNBC Interview
  http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/msnbc_8-29-2004_med1.mov
 
  BikesAgainstBush was important because it was one of the earliest
  demonstrations of the power of the blogosphere to distribute video --
  the raw street-footage of the arrest circulated around the blogosphere
  and was viewed by millions of people both before and after the edited
  version aired on MSNBC's Hardball.
 
  Immediately after this project, I began working on software to
  distribute video via RSS. I met Jay Dedman around this time in NYC,
  and we began working together. This became ANT (ANT's Not Television)
  and later FireAnt http://FireAnt.tv.
 
  I wanted to share my thoughts here, in the videoblogging community, as
  I'm reflecting today on the state of media, how far we've come and the
  work that remains...
 
  Best,
  Josh
 
 

 --
 Richard
 http://richardhhall.org
 Shows
 http://richardshow.org
 http://inspiredhealing.tv

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[videoblogging] My videoblogging roots and today's NYTimes article

2007-03-25 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Today, I'm unsure how to react to this news -- having your person,
property and rights violated is an unsettling experience. Would
definitely like to hear your thoughts on this as I'm processing the
information.

On Friday morning, I was informed by a NYTimes reporter that recent
documents uncovered just how far the NYPD went to suppress Free Speech
-- mine and others -- at the Republican Convention in 2004. Here's
what the NYTimes reported in the Sunday edition:

City Police Spied Broadly Before G.O.P. Convention
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/nyregion/25infiltrate.html?ex=1332561600en=3af0cd0ac568e430ei=5124partner=permalinkexprod=permalink

Bikes Against Bush http://www.bikesagainstbush.com was my graduate
thesis project, a combination of mechanical engineering, WiFi,
interactive mobile messaging, and videoblogging. It was featured in
Popular Science magazine for the engineering design of the bicycle
that printed chalk text messages sent through SMS and from my website
onto streets and sidewalks in NYC.

Apparently, the NYPD considered this project to be a threat and was
determined to shut it down. They had a copy of the Popular Science
article in a file along with 4 pages of notes as to why my project was
a threat. This led to my bizarre arrest, which happened on national
television while I was being interviewed by Ron Reagan on MSNBC's
Hardball.

I was arrested with no crime being committed. Just simply plucked from
the street, jailed for 24 hours, and my computer, cell phone and
bicycle confiscated and held for over a year (the bicycle was never
returned). The fake charges against me were dropped 6 months later.

The NYTimes article confirms what I had long suspected -- that the
NYPD was unlawfully conducting surveillance of artists, activists, and
others seeking to exercise free speech at the RNC convention in 2004.

Here are the videos:

The Bike Project
http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/iloveny.mov

The Arrest -- Street Footage
http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/bikesarrest.mov

MSNBC Interview
http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/msnbc_8-29-2004_med1.mov

BikesAgainstBush was important because it was one of the earliest
demonstrations of the power of the blogosphere to distribute video --
the raw street-footage of the arrest circulated around the blogosphere
and was viewed by millions of people both before and after the edited
version aired on MSNBC's Hardball.

Immediately after this project, I began working on software to
distribute video via RSS. I met Jay Dedman around this time in NYC,
and we began working together. This became ANT (ANT's Not Television)
and later FireAnt http://FireAnt.tv.

I wanted to share my thoughts here, in the videoblogging community, as
I'm reflecting today on the state of media, how far we've come and the
work that remains...

Best,
Josh


Re: [videoblogging] My videoblogging roots and today's NYTimes article

2007-03-25 Thread Roxanne Darling
Josh -

I am going to make time to review your links, and wanted to post a
quick acknowledgement of your brilliant project and thank you for
sharing your story with the group.  There are so many elements in here
to think about.

Rox

On 25 Mar 2007 10:06:10 -0700, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Today, I'm unsure how to react to this news -- having your person,
  property and rights violated is an unsettling experience. Would
  definitely like to hear your thoughts on this as I'm processing the
  information.

  On Friday morning, I was informed by a NYTimes reporter that recent
  documents uncovered just how far the NYPD went to suppress Free Speech
  -- mine and others -- at the Republican Convention in 2004. Here's
  what the NYTimes reported in the Sunday edition:

  City Police Spied Broadly Before G.O.P. Convention
 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/nyregion/25infiltrate.html?ex=1332561600en=3af0cd0ac568e430ei=5124partner=permalinkexprod=permalink

  Bikes Against Bush http://www.bikesagainstbush.com was my graduate
  thesis project, a combination of mechanical engineering, WiFi,
  interactive mobile messaging, and videoblogging. It was featured in
  Popular Science magazine for the engineering design of the bicycle
  that printed chalk text messages sent through SMS and from my website
  onto streets and sidewalks in NYC.

  Apparently, the NYPD considered this project to be a threat and was
  determined to shut it down. They had a copy of the Popular Science
  article in a file along with 4 pages of notes as to why my project was
  a threat. This led to my bizarre arrest, which happened on national
  television while I was being interviewed by Ron Reagan on MSNBC's
  Hardball.

  I was arrested with no crime being committed. Just simply plucked from
  the street, jailed for 24 hours, and my computer, cell phone and
  bicycle confiscated and held for over a year (the bicycle was never
  returned). The fake charges against me were dropped 6 months later.

  The NYTimes article confirms what I had long suspected -- that the
  NYPD was unlawfully conducting surveillance of artists, activists, and
  others seeking to exercise free speech at the RNC convention in 2004.

  Here are the videos:

  The Bike Project
  http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/iloveny.mov

  The Arrest -- Street Footage
  http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/bikesarrest.mov

  MSNBC Interview
  http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/msnbc_8-29-2004_med1.mov

  BikesAgainstBush was important because it was one of the earliest
  demonstrations of the power of the blogosphere to distribute video --
  the raw street-footage of the arrest circulated around the blogosphere
  and was viewed by millions of people both before and after the edited
  version aired on MSNBC's Hardball.

  Immediately after this project, I began working on software to
  distribute video via RSS. I met Jay Dedman around this time in NYC,
  and we began working together. This became ANT (ANT's Not Television)
  and later FireAnt http://FireAnt.tv.

  I wanted to share my thoughts here, in the videoblogging community, as
  I'm reflecting today on the state of media, how far we've come and the
  work that remains...

  Best,
  Josh
  


-- 
Roxanne Darling
o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian
808-384-5554

http://www.beachwalks.tv
http://www.barefeetshop.com
http://www.barefeetstudios.com
http://www.inthetransition.com


Re: [videoblogging] My videoblogging roots and today's NYTimes article

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Meiser
Excuse me... but mother fucker!

This confirms all my suspicious about the massive waste of resources
and abuse of power that is the Patriot Act. You know this stuff goes
on but rarely does it hit so close to home or present itself in such
an obvous way.

Granted not all examples are so wastefull..  but this is the fucking
height of absuridity and abuse against free speech, civil rights, and
worst of all intellectual and artful cultural exploration.

It is now obvious that it was a completely politically motivated
attempt to use the NYPD's resources to silence opposing speech against
Bush and the RNC.  They obviously saw the publicity of bikes against
bush as some form of attractor, promotional, or escallating element
bringing attention to the RNC and anti-bush movement at a time when
the city wanted to reduce attention in the press of the subject matter
and play down activity.

We already know that the majority of all arrests from teh rallies and
the critical mass bike ride around this time were thrown out... that
they arrested people knowing full well they had no grounds purely to
hold them in jails for 48-72 hours until after the RNC.

The thing is they dirctly deprived you of your property and speech not
just around the RNC but for months and MONTHS afterwards by
confiscating and refusing to return your technology so you could
demonstrate and present on it...

This is particularly disturbng because it was a largely intellectual,
artful and largely positive endevor. Indeed it functions in a space
that Eyebeam and other artful and educational resources continue to
funciton well with-in right now.  I think you could in fact consider
it an attack on the educational system that is NYU/ITP (or was it
Parsons? I forget.)  Did the school back you in any of this? I'm
guessing not, but they should be backing up their students... they
should have provided some legal council to you. It is in fact they
that have lost our as much as you.

So... did the police actually stake you out and wait for an
opportunity to arrest you when they were on the street with your bike?
It's not clear from the information I've yet read, but it seems to
suggest they didn't simply happen upon you on the street.

We all knew the charge of vandalism was bunk... now we see that it was
not only bunk but that it may have been planned from the very
beginning.

It's begining to look like they literally staked you out and sent
someone to arrest you on trumped up charges if need be... not the case
of some officer bumping into you on the street as it had been
originally presented, even if questionably.

There's more than enough legal grounds and I hope you find a lawyer
who's interested in a conter suit... not for the money... in fact give
the lawyer all the money if need be... but to make a statement of this
event for all our sakes.  It's simply a disgusting abuse of power that
makes me worry about our future.

BTW, if they were possibly keeping an eye on you, how did they know
you'd be on the street talking to Michael Regan of Hardball?  Was it
by any chance pre-anounced?

Let's back up though with the questions.

Right now what I'd like is a completely synopsis somewhere where I can
link to it and blog about it.

I was going to recommend you try and summarize it all up in a blog
post, but I realize even for you the facts are evolving so I'd really
sggest an open wiki. Perhaps PBwiki?


My personal motivations are not so much in seeing some action come of
this... though I think you should contact a lawyer... but
intellectual.  I hope we can document the facts of this case so it can
be referred to and made presentable as a study for  bloggers,
activists, book writers, lawyers, journalists, professors.

I personally find it an extremely interesting case and would certainly
help gather the facts and details on a wiki. In fact I'll even start
the wiki if you give it you yourself will agree to help with the facts
and details. Indeed I think I should have hour enthusiastic blessing,
because without your input much of the detail will be lost and the
facts no doubt sketchy.

Is there anyone else here interested in this proposed project.

Speaking of which... I'm increasingly aware of the value in Josh
Wolf's legal points... they are at the very height of legal argument
today and in the coming years as the masses start shooting and sharing
videos...  that we and our cameras cannot and should not be turned
into the eyes and ears of an orwellian style government surveilence
system.

Does anyone know if there's an information resource on this in wiki form?

Maybe the place for this stuff might be on wikipedia in fact. If it's
going to go up on wikipedia though it cannot be presented as original
research it must in fact be footnoted and thoroughly referenced.
While much tougher I think it's far more worthwhile and useful to work
on wikipedia... I find the peer review process to be flexible enough,
and critical enough to be be worthwhile.

That's it from me