Re: [videoblogging] Net Neutrality Article from BBC News

2007-09-07 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hey Jay,

On 9/7/07, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "US backing for two-tier internet"
>  >  
>  >  "The US Justice Department has said that internet service providers
>  >  should be allowed to charge for priority traffic.
>  >  The agency said it was opposed to "network neutrality", the idea that
>  >  all data on the net is treated equally."
>
>  where's the guy on this list who said commericial companies should be
>  able to do anything they want? I'd love to hear his spin on this.
>
>  Great, so in a couple yearsour web experience will be decided by
>  what website Comcast and ATT decide pay enough to get the fast
>  service.
>
>  Any creator on this list will have slow, tedious videos.
>  they are creating a false scarcity.
>  Funny how free marketers like to choose when "free markets" are helpful to 
> them.

I was one of the people defending companies before.

So maybe you're talking about me... although I don't remember saying
"commercial companies should be able to do anything they want"... so
maybe it was someone else that was saying something about it too.

But anyways to put in my "2 cents"...

Although I don't like a tiered Internet and think people should do
something about it... I don't think that "something" should be
legislation.  (This article is talking about trying to do "something"
with legislation.)

(I'm against forcing companies as much as I'm against forcing
people... after all... companies are groups of people.  And forcing
companies really means forcing each of those people in that group.)

One way to tackle this problem is to work on creating alternative
forms of "Internet access".

Even before this was going on, there have been people who have been
creating new "networks" (separate from the teleco's network or the
cable companies' network) made up of wireless routers.

Here's one example in Seattle...

http://www.seattlewireless.net/

There's many many others all over the world.  (I can't remember the
other links off the top of my head.)

That's super simple to do... after all... wireless routers are pretty
affordable.


Also... if you have the resources... you could start your own ISP that
doesn't tier the Internet.  Get other people to "care" about the
cause... and show them that you provide an alternative.


Also... people can "boycott" any company they see tiering the Internet
in a way you don't like.

I believe that using force against someone (who hasn't used force
against you) is wrong no matter who it's against.  Even if it's
against a bunch of assholes is some company.


See ya

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Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. 


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Re: [videoblogging] Net Neutrality Article from BBC News

2007-09-07 Thread Jay dedman
> "US backing for two-tier internet"
>  
>  "The US Justice Department has said that internet service providers
>  should be allowed to charge for priority traffic.
>  The agency said it was opposed to "network neutrality", the idea that
>  all data on the net is treated equally."

where's the guy on this list who said commericial companies should be
able to do anything they want? I'd love to hear his spin on this.

Great, so in a couple yearsour web experience will be decided by
what website Comcast and ATT decide pay enough to get the fast
service.

Any creator on this list will have slow, tedious videos.
they are creating a false scarcity.
Funny how free marketers like to choose when "free markets" are helpful to them.

jay



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[videoblogging] Net Neutrality Article from BBC News

2007-09-07 Thread Bill Cammack
"US backing for two-tier internet"



"The US Justice Department has said that internet service providers
should be allowed to charge for priority traffic.

The agency said it was opposed to "network neutrality", the idea that
all data on the net is treated equally."

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http://ReelSolid.TV