RE: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download tracking? How do I do that?

2007-01-23 Thread Mike Hudack
Hey Bill,

This is indeed pretty easy to do.  We do it for a number of reasons,
from collecting statistical information to finding the most appropriate
server to deliver the video from, which means that our code for doing
this is pretty complicated.  Your code can probably be much simpler. 

I'm not really a php programmer (I'm more of a perl guy), but this kind
of form should work for you assuming you have a call style like
http://mywebsite.com/video.php?video=bar.mpg:

?php
$videos['foo.mpg'] = 'http://bar.baz/foo.mpg';
$videos['bar.mpg'] = 'http://foo.baz/bar.mpg';

// Do what you want to collect data, et cetera

header('Location: ' . $videos[$_GET['video']];
?

You should probably consider this pseudo code and not actual code, since
my recollection of php syntax and variable instantiation is pretty
rusty.  One thing to keep in mind is that you cannot output anything
from your php script prior to calling the header() function -- if it
isn't the first thing you call that produces output your script will
break with an ugly HTML Web page with a big bold error message in the
middle of it.

Yours,

Mike
Co-founder  CEO, blip.tv

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billshackelford
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:39 AM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download tracking? 
 How do I do that?
 
 Blip.tv has permalinks like this:
 
 http://blip.tv/file/get/Bshack-PopPopPop659.m4v
 
 When you click on it, it will redirect to the actual file 
 location. When it redirects it also gathers information about 
 you for stats. The above link will work in itunes even with 
 the redirects.
 
 How do they do that? I could I do that with PHP?
 
 
 
  
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 


Re: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download tracking? How do I do that?

2007-01-23 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Your syntax is spot on. It's only lacking one crucial thing. Per default  
PHP is sent as text/html so along with the Location header you need to  
send the correct content-type header (to build on your example):

header('Content-type: video/mpg');
header('Location: '.$videos[$_GET['video']]);

And since Mike was writing pseudocode you also need to add your own input  
checking (e.g. throw a 404 if the video isn't found) and so on.

As Mike demonstrated the difficult bit is not sending the headers. It's  
deciding what kind of stats you want to save and then building the  
database scripts to deal with it.

- Andreas

Den 23.01.2007 kl. 14:47 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hey Bill,

 This is indeed pretty easy to do.  We do it for a number of reasons,
 from collecting statistical information to finding the most appropriate
 server to deliver the video from, which means that our code for doing
 this is pretty complicated.  Your code can probably be much simpler.

 I'm not really a php programmer (I'm more of a perl guy), but this kind
 of form should work for you assuming you have a call style like
 http://mywebsite.com/video.php?video=bar.mpg:

 ?php
   $videos['foo.mpg'] = 'http://bar.baz/foo.mpg';
   $videos['bar.mpg'] = 'http://foo.baz/bar.mpg';

   // Do what you want to collect data, et cetera

   header('Location: ' . $videos[$_GET['video']];
 ?

 You should probably consider this pseudo code and not actual code, since
 my recollection of php syntax and variable instantiation is pretty
 rusty.  One thing to keep in mind is that you cannot output anything
 from your php script prior to calling the header() function -- if it
 isn't the first thing you call that produces output your script will
 break with an ugly HTML Web page with a big bold error message in the
 middle of it.

 Yours,

 Mike
 Co-founder  CEO, blip.tv

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billshackelford
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:39 AM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download tracking?
 How do I do that?

 Blip.tv has permalinks like this:

 http://blip.tv/file/get/Bshack-PopPopPop659.m4v

 When you click on it, it will redirect to the actual file
 location. When it redirects it also gathers information about
 you for stats. The above link will work in itunes even with
 the redirects.

 How do they do that? I could I do that with PHP?




 Yahoo! Groups Links







-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 


RE: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download tracking? How do I do that?

2007-01-23 Thread Mike Hudack
Andreas, you don't need to set Content-type to video/mpg, in fact I
believe that doing so is destructive.

The actual content returned in the redirect response is either
text/plain or text/html, and NOT video/mpg.  When the browser follows
the redirect and requests the actual video file it will receive the
proper content-type from the server, presumably video/mpg.  If you set
your redirect response to video/mpg and send it to a browser that
doesn't support redirects for some odd reason the user is going to get a
really weird looking page, maybe even a video player without a video.

So don't set the content type explicitly.  PHP or Apache will handle
this for you, returning either text/html or text/plain depending on the
format of the The file you have requested has temporarily moved to...
message.

Yours,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas 
 Haugstrup Pedersen
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:10 AM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download 
 tracking? How do I do that?
 
 Your syntax is spot on. It's only lacking one crucial thing. 
 Per default PHP is sent as text/html so along with the 
 Location header you need to send the correct content-type 
 header (to build on your example):
 
 header('Content-type: video/mpg');
 header('Location: '.$videos[$_GET['video']]);
 
 And since Mike was writing pseudocode you also need to add 
 your own input checking (e.g. throw a 404 if the video isn't 
 found) and so on.
 
 As Mike demonstrated the difficult bit is not sending the 
 headers. It's deciding what kind of stats you want to save 
 and then building the database scripts to deal with it.
 
 - Andreas
 
 Den 23.01.2007 kl. 14:47 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hey Bill,
 
  This is indeed pretty easy to do.  We do it for a number of 
 reasons, 
  from collecting statistical information to finding the most 
  appropriate server to deliver the video from, which means that our 
  code for doing this is pretty complicated.  Your code can 
 probably be much simpler.
 
  I'm not really a php programmer (I'm more of a perl guy), but this 
  kind of form should work for you assuming you have a call style like
  http://mywebsite.com/video.php?video=bar.mpg:
 
  ?php
  $videos['foo.mpg'] = 'http://bar.baz/foo.mpg';
  $videos['bar.mpg'] = 'http://foo.baz/bar.mpg';
 
  // Do what you want to collect data, et cetera
 
  header('Location: ' . $videos[$_GET['video']]; ?
 
  You should probably consider this pseudo code and not actual code, 
  since my recollection of php syntax and variable instantiation is 
  pretty rusty.  One thing to keep in mind is that you cannot output 
  anything from your php script prior to calling the header() 
 function 
  -- if it isn't the first thing you call that produces output your 
  script will break with an ugly HTML Web page with a big bold error 
  message in the middle of it.
 
  Yours,
 
  Mike
  Co-founder  CEO, blip.tv
 
  -Original Message-
  From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billshackelford
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:39 AM
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download tracking?
  How do I do that?
 
  Blip.tv has permalinks like this:
 
  http://blip.tv/file/get/Bshack-PopPopPop659.m4v
 
  When you click on it, it will redirect to the actual file 
 location. 
  When it redirects it also gathers information about you for stats. 
  The above link will work in itunes even with the redirects.
 
  How do they do that? I could I do that with PHP?
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
 URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 
 
 
  
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 


Re: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download tracking? How do I do that?

2007-01-23 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
You're right of course. I got things messed up in my head (thinking of the  
case where you'd pipe a file through readfile()). That'll teach me to act  
smart. :o)

- Andreas

Den 23.01.2007 kl. 15:49 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Andreas, you don't need to set Content-type to video/mpg, in fact I
 believe that doing so is destructive.

 The actual content returned in the redirect response is either
 text/plain or text/html, and NOT video/mpg.  When the browser follows
 the redirect and requests the actual video file it will receive the
 proper content-type from the server, presumably video/mpg.  If you set
 your redirect response to video/mpg and send it to a browser that
 doesn't support redirects for some odd reason the user is going to get a
 really weird looking page, maybe even a video player without a video.

 So don't set the content type explicitly.  PHP or Apache will handle
 this for you, returning either text/html or text/plain depending on the
 format of the The file you have requested has temporarily moved to...
 message.

 Yours,

 Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas
 Haugstrup Pedersen
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:10 AM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download
 tracking? How do I do that?

 Your syntax is spot on. It's only lacking one crucial thing.
 Per default PHP is sent as text/html so along with the
 Location header you need to send the correct content-type
 header (to build on your example):

 header('Content-type: video/mpg');
 header('Location: '.$videos[$_GET['video']]);

 And since Mike was writing pseudocode you also need to add
 your own input checking (e.g. throw a 404 if the video isn't
 found) and so on.

 As Mike demonstrated the difficult bit is not sending the
 headers. It's deciding what kind of stats you want to save
 and then building the database scripts to deal with it.

 - Andreas

 Den 23.01.2007 kl. 14:47 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hey Bill,
 
  This is indeed pretty easy to do.  We do it for a number of
 reasons,
  from collecting statistical information to finding the most
  appropriate server to deliver the video from, which means that our
  code for doing this is pretty complicated.  Your code can
 probably be much simpler.
 
  I'm not really a php programmer (I'm more of a perl guy), but this
  kind of form should work for you assuming you have a call style like
  http://mywebsite.com/video.php?video=bar.mpg:
 
  ?php
 $videos['foo.mpg'] = 'http://bar.baz/foo.mpg';
 $videos['bar.mpg'] = 'http://foo.baz/bar.mpg';
 
 // Do what you want to collect data, et cetera
 
 header('Location: ' . $videos[$_GET['video']]; ?
 
  You should probably consider this pseudo code and not actual code,
  since my recollection of php syntax and variable instantiation is
  pretty rusty.  One thing to keep in mind is that you cannot output
  anything from your php script prior to calling the header()
 function
  -- if it isn't the first thing you call that produces output your
  script will break with an ugly HTML Web page with a big bold error
  message in the middle of it.
 
  Yours,
 
  Mike
  Co-founder  CEO, blip.tv
 
  -Original Message-
  From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billshackelford
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:39 AM
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [videoblogging] Permalinks and download tracking?
  How do I do that?
 
  Blip.tv has permalinks like this:
 
  http://blip.tv/file/get/Bshack-PopPopPop659.m4v
 
  When you click on it, it will redirect to the actual file
 location.
  When it redirects it also gathers information about you for stats.
  The above link will work in itunes even with the redirects.
 
  How do they do that? I could I do that with PHP?
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 



 --
 Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
 URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 



 Yahoo! Groups Links







-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 


[videoblogging] Permalinks and download tracking? How do I do that?

2007-01-22 Thread billshackelford
Blip.tv has permalinks like this:

http://blip.tv/file/get/Bshack-PopPopPop659.m4v

When you click on it, it will redirect to the actual file location. When it 
redirects it also gathers 
information about you for stats. The above link will work in itunes even with 
the redirects.

How do they do that? I could I do that with PHP?