[videoblogging] Re: Best Youtube compression out of Adobe Premiere CS3

2008-02-01 Thread Renat Zarbailov
By the way here is the link to the final video with the compression I
mentioned about...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvu8Bqx5vQ

Is this kick ass quality for youtube or what??

Cheers

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 After 2 years of constant search for the ideal compression scheme, I
 have finally come to a solution. If you're using Adobe Premiere CS3
 and you edit your footage in 16X9 standard definition, simply do the
 following.
 
 1. Sharpen the video to the point you see some dotty artifacts
 appearing in the video (looks like a jpeg still image when highly
 compressed)
 
 2. Right out of timeline, without even hitting enter to render SD
 edited material, go to export, adobe media encoder. Once there under
 format choose Windows Media, and under preset NTSC Source to
 Download 1024kbps, however, that is not all, we will edit this preset
 and then save it as a Youtube one for future sweet encoding :)
 So now, in the video tab... 
 
 BASIC VIDEO SETTINGS make sure you have the following;
 Allow interlaced processing - unchecked
 Encoding passes - Two
 Bitrate mode - Constant
 Frame W/H 640X480
 Frame rate 29.97 but depending on your footage (some people shoot in
 24 frames)
 Pixel aspect ration (important) - D1 DV NTSC (0.9) this is 4X3
 although the original footage is 16X9
 
 BITRATE SETTINGS
 Maximum bitrate - 3,739.63 (yes under 4mbps)
 Image quality - 100
 
 ADVANCED SETTINGS
 Decoder complexity - Main
 Keyframe interval - 5
 Buffer size - Default
 
 Now go to Audio tab
 
 change Audio format to 192kbps 44 stereo VBR
 
 3. Hit OK on the bottom (you will see that the estimated file size is
 beyond 100mb allowed by youtube but don't worry, if you go the
 approach described below all will be fine). Save to file to you har
drive.
 
 4. Log in to youtube and at the upload page, on the right hand side
 you will see a new Multi video uploaded button to upload files
 larger than 100MB or upload many files at once!
 
 That's it! :)
 
 If you have achieved better quality using Premiere CS3 I sure would
 like to hear about it.
 
 Thanks
 
 Renat of Innomind.org and Mr.Thyself.com





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Youtube compression out of Adobe Premiere CS3

2008-02-01 Thread Ron Watson
How about this, Renat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwNz2wu5Gg

Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Renat Zarbailov wrote:

 By the way here is the link to the final video with the compression I
 mentioned about...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvu8Bqx5vQ

 Is this kick ass quality for youtube or what??

 Cheers

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  After 2 years of constant search for the ideal compression scheme, I
  have finally come to a solution. If you're using Adobe Premiere CS3
  and you edit your footage in 16X9 standard definition, simply do the
  following.
 
  1. Sharpen the video to the point you see some dotty artifacts
  appearing in the video (looks like a jpeg still image when highly
  compressed)
 
  2. Right out of timeline, without even hitting enter to render SD
  edited material, go to export, adobe media encoder. Once there under
  format choose Windows Media, and under preset NTSC Source to
  Download 1024kbps, however, that is not all, we will edit this  
 preset
  and then save it as a Youtube one for future sweet encoding :)
  So now, in the video tab...
 
  BASIC VIDEO SETTINGS make sure you have the following;
  Allow interlaced processing - unchecked
  Encoding passes - Two
  Bitrate mode - Constant
  Frame W/H 640X480
  Frame rate 29.97 but depending on your footage (some people shoot in
  24 frames)
  Pixel aspect ration (important) - D1 DV NTSC (0.9) this is 4X3
  although the original footage is 16X9
 
  BITRATE SETTINGS
  Maximum bitrate - 3,739.63 (yes under 4mbps)
  Image quality - 100
 
  ADVANCED SETTINGS
  Decoder complexity - Main
  Keyframe interval - 5
  Buffer size - Default
 
  Now go to Audio tab
 
  change Audio format to 192kbps 44 stereo VBR
 
  3. Hit OK on the bottom (you will see that the estimated file  
 size is
  beyond 100mb allowed by youtube but don't worry, if you go the
  approach described below all will be fine). Save to file to you har
 drive.
 
  4. Log in to youtube and at the upload page, on the right hand side
  you will see a new Multi video uploaded button to upload files
  larger than 100MB or upload many files at once!
 
  That's it! :)
 
  If you have achieved better quality using Premiere CS3 I sure would
  like to hear about it.
 
  Thanks
 
  Renat of Innomind.org and Mr.Thyself.com
 


 



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Youtube compression out of Adobe Premiere CS3

2008-02-01 Thread Ron Watson
You could just letter box. CS3 does that doesn't it?

Forgot to mention that. I shoot 16x9 and letter box the output as a  
320x240 h.264 .mov, bitrate of 1000, blur filter of 1.

Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Renat Zarbailov wrote:

 Yeah that is the disadvantage of shooting in 16X9 and outputting to
 youtube.
 Ideally it would be best to shoot in 4X3 and not change the aspect
 ratio but if you you want to preserve the videos for future shoot  
 in 16X9.

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm confused about changing the aspect ratio for output. Won't the
  image end up smooshed?
 
  Chris
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov innomind@
  wrote:
  
   After 2 years of constant search for the ideal compression  
 scheme, I
   have finally come to a solution. If you're using Adobe Premiere  
 CS3
   and you edit your footage in 16X9 standard definition, simply  
 do the
   following.
  
   1. Sharpen the video to the point you see some dotty artifacts
   appearing in the video (looks like a jpeg still image when highly
   compressed)
  
   2. Right out of timeline, without even hitting enter to render SD
   edited material, go to export, adobe media encoder. Once there  
 under
   format choose Windows Media, and under preset NTSC Source to
   Download 1024kbps, however, that is not all, we will edit this  
 preset
   and then save it as a Youtube one for future sweet encoding :)
   So now, in the video tab...
  
   BASIC VIDEO SETTINGS make sure you have the following;
   Allow interlaced processing - unchecked
   Encoding passes - Two
   Bitrate mode - Constant
   Frame W/H 640X480
   Frame rate 29.97 but depending on your footage (some people  
 shoot in
   24 frames)
   Pixel aspect ration (important) - D1 DV NTSC (0.9) this is 4X3
   although the original footage is 16X9
  
   BITRATE SETTINGS
   Maximum bitrate - 3,739.63 (yes under 4mbps)
   Image quality - 100
  
   ADVANCED SETTINGS
   Decoder complexity - Main
   Keyframe interval - 5
   Buffer size - Default
  
   Now go to Audio tab
  
   change Audio format to 192kbps 44 stereo VBR
  
   3. Hit OK on the bottom (you will see that the estimated file  
 size is
   beyond 100mb allowed by youtube but don't worry, if you go the
   approach described below all will be fine). Save to file to you  
 har
  drive.
  
   4. Log in to youtube and at the upload page, on the right hand  
 side
   you will see a new Multi video uploaded button to upload files
   larger than 100MB or upload many files at once!
  
   That's it! :)
  
   If you have achieved better quality using Premiere CS3 I sure  
 would
   like to hear about it.
  
   Thanks
  
   Renat of Innomind.org and Mr.Thyself.com
  
 


 



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[videoblogging] Re: Best Youtube compression out of Adobe Premiere CS3

2008-02-01 Thread Renat Zarbailov
Yeah but your footage is not handheld. When the cam is on a tripod the
footage in most cases looks great, especially if the scene is well lit. 

Now, you were talking about blurring the video instead of sharpening
it?? Did I miss something? I mean those examples looked nice but I am
sure if you would have sharpened them they would look even better. 

Also, I noticed a weird thing about youtube yesterday. When I opened
that same resulting video
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvu8Bqx5vQ)in Internet Exploer 6, the
video looked not as sharp as on Firefox 2. Another thing I noticed is
when you press that little screen button on youtube player on that
video it doesn't scale down. Which made me wonder if youtube is wising
up and finally using the H.264 engine, hence the very sharp video.

What are your thoughts on this guys?

Renat of Innomind.org and Mr.Thyself.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about this, Renat:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwNz2wu5Gg
 
 Cheers,
 Ron Watson
 http://k9disc.blip.tv
 http://k9disc.com
 http://discdogradio.com
 http://pawsitivevybe.com
 
 
 
 On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Renat Zarbailov wrote:
 
  By the way here is the link to the final video with the compression I
  mentioned about...
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvu8Bqx5vQ
 
  Is this kick ass quality for youtube or what??
 
  Cheers
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov innomind@
  wrote:
  
   After 2 years of constant search for the ideal compression scheme, I
   have finally come to a solution. If you're using Adobe Premiere CS3
   and you edit your footage in 16X9 standard definition, simply do the
   following.
  
   1. Sharpen the video to the point you see some dotty artifacts
   appearing in the video (looks like a jpeg still image when highly
   compressed)
  
   2. Right out of timeline, without even hitting enter to render SD
   edited material, go to export, adobe media encoder. Once there under
   format choose Windows Media, and under preset NTSC Source to
   Download 1024kbps, however, that is not all, we will edit this  
  preset
   and then save it as a Youtube one for future sweet encoding :)
   So now, in the video tab...
  
   BASIC VIDEO SETTINGS make sure you have the following;
   Allow interlaced processing - unchecked
   Encoding passes - Two
   Bitrate mode - Constant
   Frame W/H 640X480
   Frame rate 29.97 but depending on your footage (some people shoot in
   24 frames)
   Pixel aspect ration (important) - D1 DV NTSC (0.9) this is 4X3
   although the original footage is 16X9
  
   BITRATE SETTINGS
   Maximum bitrate - 3,739.63 (yes under 4mbps)
   Image quality - 100
  
   ADVANCED SETTINGS
   Decoder complexity - Main
   Keyframe interval - 5
   Buffer size - Default
  
   Now go to Audio tab
  
   change Audio format to 192kbps 44 stereo VBR
  
   3. Hit OK on the bottom (you will see that the estimated file  
  size is
   beyond 100mb allowed by youtube but don't worry, if you go the
   approach described below all will be fine). Save to file to you har
  drive.
  
   4. Log in to youtube and at the upload page, on the right hand side
   you will see a new Multi video uploaded button to upload files
   larger than 100MB or upload many files at once!
  
   That's it! :)
  
   If you have achieved better quality using Premiere CS3 I sure would
   like to hear about it.
  
   Thanks
  
   Renat of Innomind.org and Mr.Thyself.com
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Youtube compression out of Adobe Premiere CS3

2008-02-01 Thread Ron Watson
All of the other footage is handheld.
Try to blur your video. It works. It was not a typo.

Cheers,

Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Feb 1, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Renat Zarbailov wrote:

 Yeah but your footage is not handheld. When the cam is on a tripod the
 footage in most cases looks great, especially if the scene is well  
 lit.

 Now, you were talking about blurring the video instead of sharpening
 it?? Did I miss something? I mean those examples looked nice but I am
 sure if you would have sharpened them they would look even better.

 Also, I noticed a weird thing about youtube yesterday. When I opened
 that same resulting video
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvu8Bqx5vQ)in Internet Exploer 6, the
 video looked not as sharp as on Firefox 2. Another thing I noticed is
 when you press that little screen button on youtube player on that
 video it doesn't scale down. Which made me wonder if youtube is wising
 up and finally using the H.264 engine, hence the very sharp video.

 What are your thoughts on this guys?

 Renat of Innomind.org and Mr.Thyself.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  How about this, Renat:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwNz2wu5Gg
 
  Cheers,
  Ron Watson
  http://k9disc.blip.tv
  http://k9disc.com
  http://discdogradio.com
  http://pawsitivevybe.com
 
 
 
  On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Renat Zarbailov wrote:
 
   By the way here is the link to the final video with the  
 compression I
   mentioned about...
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvu8Bqx5vQ
  
   Is this kick ass quality for youtube or what??
  
   Cheers
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov  
 innomind@
   wrote:
   
After 2 years of constant search for the ideal compression  
 scheme, I
have finally come to a solution. If you're using Adobe  
 Premiere CS3
and you edit your footage in 16X9 standard definition, simply  
 do the
following.
   
1. Sharpen the video to the point you see some dotty artifacts
appearing in the video (looks like a jpeg still image when  
 highly
compressed)
   
2. Right out of timeline, without even hitting enter to  
 render SD
edited material, go to export, adobe media encoder. Once  
 there under
format choose Windows Media, and under preset NTSC Source to
Download 1024kbps, however, that is not all, we will edit this
   preset
and then save it as a Youtube one for future sweet encoding :)
So now, in the video tab...
   
BASIC VIDEO SETTINGS make sure you have the following;
Allow interlaced processing - unchecked
Encoding passes - Two
Bitrate mode - Constant
Frame W/H 640X480
Frame rate 29.97 but depending on your footage (some people  
 shoot in
24 frames)
Pixel aspect ration (important) - D1 DV NTSC (0.9) this is 4X3
although the original footage is 16X9
   
BITRATE SETTINGS
Maximum bitrate - 3,739.63 (yes under 4mbps)
Image quality - 100
   
ADVANCED SETTINGS
Decoder complexity - Main
Keyframe interval - 5
Buffer size - Default
   
Now go to Audio tab
   
change Audio format to 192kbps 44 stereo VBR
   
3. Hit OK on the bottom (you will see that the estimated file
   size is
beyond 100mb allowed by youtube but don't worry, if you go the
approach described below all will be fine). Save to file to  
 you har
   drive.
   
4. Log in to youtube and at the upload page, on the right  
 hand side
you will see a new Multi video uploaded button to upload files
larger than 100MB or upload many files at once!
   
That's it! :)
   
If you have achieved better quality using Premiere CS3 I sure  
 would
like to hear about it.
   
Thanks
   
Renat of Innomind.org and Mr.Thyself.com
   
  
  
  
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Best Youtube compression out of Adobe Premiere CS3

2008-01-31 Thread Chris
I'm confused about changing the aspect ratio for output. Won't the
image end up smooshed?

Chris

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 After 2 years of constant search for the ideal compression scheme, I
 have finally come to a solution. If you're using Adobe Premiere CS3
 and you edit your footage in 16X9 standard definition, simply do the
 following.
 
 1. Sharpen the video to the point you see some dotty artifacts
 appearing in the video (looks like a jpeg still image when highly
 compressed)
 
 2. Right out of timeline, without even hitting enter to render SD
 edited material, go to export, adobe media encoder. Once there under
 format choose Windows Media, and under preset NTSC Source to
 Download 1024kbps, however, that is not all, we will edit this preset
 and then save it as a Youtube one for future sweet encoding :)
 So now, in the video tab... 
 
 BASIC VIDEO SETTINGS make sure you have the following;
 Allow interlaced processing - unchecked
 Encoding passes - Two
 Bitrate mode - Constant
 Frame W/H 640X480
 Frame rate 29.97 but depending on your footage (some people shoot in
 24 frames)
 Pixel aspect ration (important) - D1 DV NTSC (0.9) this is 4X3
 although the original footage is 16X9
 
 BITRATE SETTINGS
 Maximum bitrate - 3,739.63 (yes under 4mbps)
 Image quality - 100
 
 ADVANCED SETTINGS
 Decoder complexity - Main
 Keyframe interval - 5
 Buffer size - Default
 
 Now go to Audio tab
 
 change Audio format to 192kbps 44 stereo VBR
 
 3. Hit OK on the bottom (you will see that the estimated file size is
 beyond 100mb allowed by youtube but don't worry, if you go the
 approach described below all will be fine). Save to file to you har
drive.
 
 4. Log in to youtube and at the upload page, on the right hand side
 you will see a new Multi video uploaded button to upload files
 larger than 100MB or upload many files at once!
 
 That's it! :)
 
 If you have achieved better quality using Premiere CS3 I sure would
 like to hear about it.
 
 Thanks
 
 Renat of Innomind.org and Mr.Thyself.com





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Youtube compression out of Adobe Premiere CS3

2008-01-31 Thread Kary Rogers
If you upload 16x9 to YouTube they will automatically letterbox it for you.
MySpace does as well.  Some sites do not.

-- 
Kary Rogers
http://www.GoodCommitment.tv

On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Yeah that is the disadvantage of shooting in 16X9 and outputting to
 youtube.
 Ideally it would be best to shoot in 4X3 and not change the aspect
 ratio but if you you want to preserve the videos for future shoot in 16X9.

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm confused about changing the aspect ratio for output. Won't the
  image end up smooshed?
 
  Chris




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[videoblogging] Re: Best Youtube compression out of Adobe Premiere CS3

2008-01-31 Thread Renat Zarbailov
Yeah that is the disadvantage of shooting in 16X9 and outputting to
youtube.
Ideally it would be best to shoot in 4X3 and not change the aspect
ratio but if you you want to preserve the videos for future shoot in 16X9.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm confused about changing the aspect ratio for output. Won't the
 image end up smooshed?
 
 Chris
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov innomind@
 wrote:
 
  After 2 years of constant search for the ideal compression scheme, I
  have finally come to a solution. If you're using Adobe Premiere CS3
  and you edit your footage in 16X9 standard definition, simply do the
  following.
  
  1. Sharpen the video to the point you see some dotty artifacts
  appearing in the video (looks like a jpeg still image when highly
  compressed)
  
  2. Right out of timeline, without even hitting enter to render SD
  edited material, go to export, adobe media encoder. Once there under
  format choose Windows Media, and under preset NTSC Source to
  Download 1024kbps, however, that is not all, we will edit this preset
  and then save it as a Youtube one for future sweet encoding :)
  So now, in the video tab... 
  
  BASIC VIDEO SETTINGS make sure you have the following;
  Allow interlaced processing - unchecked
  Encoding passes - Two
  Bitrate mode - Constant
  Frame W/H 640X480
  Frame rate 29.97 but depending on your footage (some people shoot in
  24 frames)
  Pixel aspect ration (important) - D1 DV NTSC (0.9) this is 4X3
  although the original footage is 16X9
  
  BITRATE SETTINGS
  Maximum bitrate - 3,739.63 (yes under 4mbps)
  Image quality - 100
  
  ADVANCED SETTINGS
  Decoder complexity - Main
  Keyframe interval - 5
  Buffer size - Default
  
  Now go to Audio tab
  
  change Audio format to 192kbps 44 stereo VBR
  
  3. Hit OK on the bottom (you will see that the estimated file size is
  beyond 100mb allowed by youtube but don't worry, if you go the
  approach described below all will be fine). Save to file to you har
 drive.
  
  4. Log in to youtube and at the upload page, on the right hand side
  you will see a new Multi video uploaded button to upload files
  larger than 100MB or upload many files at once!
  
  That's it! :)
  
  If you have achieved better quality using Premiere CS3 I sure would
  like to hear about it.
  
  Thanks
  
  Renat of Innomind.org and Mr.Thyself.com
 





[videoblogging] Re: Best Youtube compression out of Adobe Premiere CS3

2008-01-31 Thread Renat Zarbailov
Yes that's true but at the expense. The vid then looks washed out.



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kary Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you upload 16x9 to YouTube they will automatically letterbox it
for you.
 MySpace does as well.  Some sites do not.
 
 -- 
 Kary Rogers
 http://www.GoodCommitment.tv
 
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Yeah that is the disadvantage of shooting in 16X9 and outputting to
  youtube.
  Ideally it would be best to shoot in 4X3 and not change the aspect
  ratio but if you you want to preserve the videos for future shoot
in 16X9.
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Chris cjburdick@ wrote:
  
   I'm confused about changing the aspect ratio for output. Won't the
   image end up smooshed?
  
   Chris
 
 
 
 
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