[videoblogging] Re: Low...low...low budget filmmaking
Personaly I don't think you have to sacrifice one for the otherI have a couple of long term projects that I want to do and one I am getting ready to start, but I think I can always find some time to post a little snippett here and there I think far to often, we as artists feel like everything we do has to be worthy of the time we put into it...or I guess I should say our percieved notion of what is worthy or good It's a struggle I had oftendo I only do a few good pieces or a bunch of crapat the end of the day, for meI do something when the mood strikes me, whatever that may beand I will continue to work on bigger projects as time allows... As I have saidthey are all part of the story that I am telling But what works for me is potato's to someone else :-) Heath http://heathparks.com/blog1 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rup...@... wrote: It depends on how you define spare time. Whether you look at in terms of a few hours in the evenings and at weekends, or all those hours aggregated over many months or years, dedicated to one project. I have no idea how Chris Marker got funding back then - although I suspect that the French had good grants back in the 60s, 70s and 80s. It he must have taken a long time to work on it. Years, I'd have thought. Perhaps alongside an unrelated paying job. In the five years leading up to Sans Soleil's release in 1983, he made two short films, one in 1978 and one in 1981. One of the drawbacks of social media is the pressure to keep presenting work regularly - that publishing regularly is maybe more important than time spent writing/producing/whatever. And it fragments your spare time - means you produce a lot of little pieces, spending a couple of hours on each, and stops you dedicating all that time to a single piece of work that might not be able to be published for months or years. It inspires a curious lack of confidence, that your work might not be good enough to be seen, read or heard amid all the noise and roaring torrent of online media, so it's more important to shout louder and more often. If you haven't published anything on your blog for six months, everybody thinks you've given up or died. People actually delete their whole blogs and back catalogue because they're frustrated that they haven't published anything for a few months, and they think they're out of the game. It's insane. As a result, a lot of the films made and published online don't feel like they've had lots of time put into them. That doesn't necessarily make them weaker - there's a lot of great stuff that comes from people working quickly or observing things in the moment. But I notice this tendency to ephemerality everywhere. Compared to work published in other media or shown in exhibitions, there's less work online that's obviously had a lot of time and thought and dedication poured into it, that has the self-confidence to say I deserve all the time spent on me - and when you see something that has, it often stands out. I'm spending a year working on one project, now - because I'd rather aggregate my limited spare time in pursuit of doing one project that excites me than I would spend one evening a week hurriedly trying to publish several personal videoblog posts that I don't care so much about but which I'm doing because I feel I should. I don't know if it'll end up being any good - that's the risk - but it's the way I want to use my 'spare time' this year, and at the end of it I hope I'll feel like it's been worth it. That said, until now I haven't had a larger project I wanted to work on, and it's been great to be able to use my blog to keep practicing and working regularly and experimenting with lots of different things - and had I not done that, I wouldn't now be doing this other thing. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 16-Feb-09, at 7:52 AM, Brook Hinton wrote: The time necessary to create significant/valuable/meaningful long form work, and in many cases even short form work, is why, for better or worse, money is often necessarily part of the sustainability equation for media artists and documentarians even in this age of ultra low cost tools and diy distribution via the web. I don't think Chris Marker made Sans Soleil in his spare time, and I don't think he could now even with an HV30, Final Cut Pro, ultra high speed broadband, and a waiting audience on Vimeo. (Which makes it all the more inspiring to see people like Jay and Ryanne embarking on such journeys anyway.) Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Rupert
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Low...low...low budget filmmaking
spare time (and lack of) dictates the type of content i put out. which is rapid capture/edit/remix into short clips... or re-blogging/bookmarking on tumblr... or a few tweets/fb posts. very micro haphazard output. and thats normal in this remix culture. but i'm glad that rupert is focusing on one main project this year... all the spare moments towards an ultimate goal. good to see this contrast and i'm looking forward to the results. time management is critical in all that we do in life. most of us suck at it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Heath heathpa...@msn.com wrote: Personaly I don't think you have to sacrifice one for the otherI have a couple of long term projects that I want to do and one I am getting ready to start, but I think I can always find some time to post a little snippett here and there I think far to often, we as artists feel like everything we do has to be worthy of the time we put into it...or I guess I should say our percieved notion of what is worthy or good It's a struggle I had oftendo I only do a few good pieces or a bunch of crapat the end of the day, for meI do something when the mood strikes me, whatever that may beand I will continue to work on bigger projects as time allows... As I have saidthey are all part of the story that I am telling But what works for me is potato's to someone else :-) Heath http://heathparks.com/blog1 Recent Activity Visit Your Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging;_ylc=X3oDMTJmOG43YzB0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyODA1NjY2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTU1NDAyMQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyMzQ5Nzc2NjE- Give Back Yahoo! for Goodhttp://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJuODNrdmMxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzEEZ3JwSWQDMTI4MDU2NjYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1NTU0MDIxBHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDYnJhbmQEc3RpbWUDMTIzNDk3NzY2MQ--;_ylg=1/SIG=11314uv3k/**http%3A//brand.yahoo.com/forgood Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free!http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJwNjQ2NnRlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzIEZ3JwSWQDMTI4MDU2NjYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1NTU0MDIxBHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDdG9vbGJhcgRzdGltZQMxMjM0OTc3NjYx;_ylg=1/SIG=11c6dvmk9/**http%3A//toolbar.yahoo.com/%3F.cpdl=ygrps easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/start;_ylc=X3oDMTJwZW9qYzMzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzMEZ3JwSWQDMTI4MDU2NjYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1NTU0MDIxBHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDZ3JvdXBzMgRzdGltZQMxMjM0OTc3NjYx in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Low...low...low budget filmmaking
I have a public access television show and I've been therefore looking at its 28 minute form unit. Now I'll come back with short pieces. Jumping back and forth in size and shape. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Low...low...low budget filmmaking
This is a great topic. I know absolutely that vlogging has improved my craft a great deal, and has pushed me to edit way way more, which I love. But there is an interesting thing that does happen. Recently I got funding to complete Video Letters From Prison, and as I work on it - have to have a rough cut by March 25th - I find that I have backed away from vlogging. There just isn't the time. I'm sure when I finish the film, and am at liberty once again, I will start posting more stuff again, but it a lot of ways it's like being an actor. Actors, when they don't have a gig, do workshop productions - to get their name out there, and keep up their chops, but when they land a part in an off broadway show - then it's time to stop workshopping and time to start working. Milt
[videoblogging] Re: Low...low...low budget filmmaking
Speaking as someone still at the Salt Mine, and I'm really greatful at the moment, the time thing works the other way. I miss being able to go out and shoot. I haven't been able to do that in too long a time. The day job is what it is for the moment, life support. So I have been thinking and planning on taking the elements of videoblogging and applying them to educational/service pieces. Still going to be low, low and no budget. I am trying to figure out a work flow where I can shoot, slice and dice it into five parts. I noticed some areas of documentation that are not being served or being addressed. So it isn't that there isn't inspiration all over the joint, it how do you act on it when you are bone tired and still want to create? Eh, yeah. If I could figure out a process that let's me streamline what I want to do I can get back in the game and show others how to do that too. We've lost a lot of women who use to vlog and that is not a good thing. Re-Lurnking, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:14 PM, David Howell taoofda...@... wrote: I have nothing but spare time these days. I'm more than happy to sit down and make longer format videos :) If the financial state of the US the world is as dire as everyone keeps pushing, we all may have plenty of time to create. It'll be a forced Renaissance. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
[videoblogging] Re: Low...low...low budget filmmaking
I have nothing but spare time these days. I'm more than happy to sit down and make longer format videos :) David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhin...@... wrote: The time necessary to create significant/valuable/meaningful long form work, and in many cases even short form work, is why, for better or worse, money is often necessarily part of the sustainability equation for media artists and documentarians even in this age of ultra low cost tools and diy distribution via the web. I don't think Chris Marker made Sans Soleil in his spare time, and I don't think he could now even with an HV30, Final Cut Pro, ultra high speed broadband, and a waiting audience on Vimeo. (Which makes it all the more inspiring to see people like Jay and Ryanne embarking on such journeys anyway.) Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Low...low...low budget filmmaking
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:14 PM, David Howell taoofda...@gmail.com wrote: I have nothing but spare time these days. I'm more than happy to sit down and make longer format videos :) If the financial state of the US the world is as dire as everyone keeps pushing, we all may have plenty of time to create. It'll be a forced Renaissance. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
