[videoblogging] Re: Mac Questions

2007-06-20 Thread Chuck Leggett
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Laura Moncur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I am switching from my PC to Mac and I'm trying to decide if the new
 MacBook Pros with the NVidia video chips are worth an extra $1000.
 Have any of you noticed a big difference between the MacBook Pros and
 the normal MacBooks?

The MacBook uses VRAM that is shared with the system's memory, so I
would consider maxing the RAM on the MacBook. Otherwise, the Pro has a
FW800 connector, DVI output, a bigger screen, etc. Either computer is
a winner.

 
 It takes forever to render a DVD on my PC using Adobe Premiere
 Elements and I'm hoping to streamline the process.

Rendering time depends on different things, the processor speed being
one of the important ones. Any new computer with a Core 2 Duo chip
will speed up the process.

 
 Additionally, is Final Cut Pro worth the extra $600 or should I just
 go with Final Cut Express or even iMovie/iDVD? I am having a hard time
 justifying the expense to my husband. Can you give me any ammunition?


Start with iMovie and see if it meets your needs. It worked great for
me until I wanted to layer video tracks, so I bought FC Express. For
my needs, I could not justify the cost of FC Pro.


BTW: the following link is for a humorous video I made when I first
got my MacBook Pro. http://tinyurl.com/2urbco


Chuck

Chuck's Vlog
http://runchuckrun.blogspot.com




[videoblogging] Re: Mac Questions

2007-06-20 Thread Bill Streeter
Final Cut Express is really very good and a good place to start. You 
might want to check to see if Apple is still offering the deal where 
you get FCE for $100 when you buy a new Macbook or Macbook Pro. 
Thats a really good deal--that is ... if they are still offering it. 

The biggest difference between the MacBook and the MBP is the 
graphics card which is usefull when doing stuff in programs like 
Motion where a lot of the video rendering is done by the graphics 
card. If you aren't doing a lot of work that requires Apple Core 
image processing then a Macbook with FCE will do you just fine. 
Apple says that Finalcut Studio isn't compatible with the Macbook 
but thats mainly because Motion won't run on it. Most of the other 
programs in the package will run just fine on the Macbook. 

Bill Streeter
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Leggett 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Laura Moncur lauramoncur@
 wrote:
 
  I am switching from my PC to Mac and I'm trying to decide if the 
new
  MacBook Pros with the NVidia video chips are worth an extra 
$1000.
  Have any of you noticed a big difference between the MacBook 
Pros and
  the normal MacBooks?
 
 The MacBook uses VRAM that is shared with the system's memory, so I
 would consider maxing the RAM on the MacBook. Otherwise, the Pro 
has a
 FW800 connector, DVI output, a bigger screen, etc. Either computer 
is
 a winner.
 
  
  It takes forever to render a DVD on my PC using Adobe Premiere
  Elements and I'm hoping to streamline the process.
 
 Rendering time depends on different things, the processor speed 
being
 one of the important ones. Any new computer with a Core 2 Duo chip
 will speed up the process.
 
  
  Additionally, is Final Cut Pro worth the extra $600 or should I 
just
  go with Final Cut Express or even iMovie/iDVD? I am having a 
hard time
  justifying the expense to my husband. Can you give me any 
ammunition?
 
 
 Start with iMovie and see if it meets your needs. It worked great 
for
 me until I wanted to layer video tracks, so I bought FC Express. 
For
 my needs, I could not justify the cost of FC Pro.
 
 
 BTW: the following link is for a humorous video I made when I first
 got my MacBook Pro. http://tinyurl.com/2urbco
 
 
 Chuck
 
 Chuck's Vlog
 http://runchuckrun.blogspot.com





[videoblogging] Re: Mac Questions

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Watkins
Good advice that. Ive only got the normal macbook myself. Specifically in terms 
of the 
nvidia chip, it really depends if you are going to be running any apps that 
make good use 
of such graphics power. Traditionally this has meant programs that use 3d in 
some way, 
although these days the lines are blurred a little more, because more and more 
apps are 
able to use the power of the graphics hardware to do a load of useful 
operations, rather 
than the cpu having to do them. So for example final cut might use decent 
graphics card 
to do some of the rendering of video effects. 

But CPUs are also a lot faster now, even in the much cheaper macbook, so I have 
found 
the normal macbook to be quite adequate for everything I need to do. I do like 
to muck 
around with 3D and games, so in an ideal world Id have gotten a macbook pro, 
but they 
are such a leap in cost, I cant quite justify it.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Leggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Laura Moncur lauramoncur@
 wrote:
 
  I am switching from my PC to Mac and I'm trying to decide if the new
  MacBook Pros with the NVidia video chips are worth an extra $1000.
  Have any of you noticed a big difference between the MacBook Pros and
  the normal MacBooks?
 
 The MacBook uses VRAM that is shared with the system's memory, so I
 would consider maxing the RAM on the MacBook. Otherwise, the Pro has a
 FW800 connector, DVI output, a bigger screen, etc. Either computer is
 a winner.
 
  
  It takes forever to render a DVD on my PC using Adobe Premiere
  Elements and I'm hoping to streamline the process.
 
 Rendering time depends on different things, the processor speed being
 one of the important ones. Any new computer with a Core 2 Duo chip
 will speed up the process.
 
  
  Additionally, is Final Cut Pro worth the extra $600 or should I just
  go with Final Cut Express or even iMovie/iDVD? I am having a hard time
  justifying the expense to my husband. Can you give me any ammunition?
 
 
 Start with iMovie and see if it meets your needs. It worked great for
 me until I wanted to layer video tracks, so I bought FC Express. For
 my needs, I could not justify the cost of FC Pro.
 
 
 BTW: the following link is for a humorous video I made when I first
 got my MacBook Pro. http://tinyurl.com/2urbco
 
 
 Chuck
 
 Chuck's Vlog
 http://runchuckrun.blogspot.com






[videoblogging] Re: Mac Questions

2007-06-20 Thread Laura Moncur
Thanks to everyone! That really helped me a lot.

Since I'm not doing any 3D rendering, just straight video, it looks
the the normal MacBook with as much RAM as I can get will be the best
for me.

I'm going to try out iMovie and see if it's enough and then move on to
FCE if not.

Thanks again!



[videoblogging] Re: Mac Questions

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Watkins
Cool, I forgot to say that I stuck 2GB of RAM in my macbook to be very happy 
with it, and 
also use an external monitor for doing stuff where the built-in screen doesnt 
seem big 
enough. I like how small the macook is, helps me to bother taking it places, 
but I must 
admit the 15 LED backlit macbook pro does seem a bit tempting, doesnt seem to 
weight 
much more either.

Just to clarify further on my earlier point, since I dont want to overstate the 
3d aspect of 
getting the right machine, or cause you to make the wrong choice...

If you think you might be a heavy user of the full Final Cut at some point, the 
Macbook 
Pro is worthy of consideration. In previous version of final cut studio, it was 
probably 
'apple motion 2.0' that would make the most use of graphics hardware, and have 
higher 
requirements for operating at a decent speed, than other apps in the suite.

Now with Final cut studio 2, not only does Motion 3 now do more 3d stuff to tax 
the 
graphics card even more, but final cut pro 6 makes use of such hardware to do 
the funky 
stuff mentioned on this page:

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/finalcutpro/effects.html

So people who wanted to do that stuff or make use of motion 3, would be the 
sort of users 
that a standard macbook would probably not be enough for. By the sounds of it 
this wont 
be much of an issue for you but I just wanted to clarify that stuff again in 
case my words 
about 3D were misleading, as this use of 3d graphics cards for non-3d things 
like realtime 
effects  filters, has been gradually happening over this century, and now its 
used in lots 
of popular relatively high-end creative apps.

So maybe its hard to be totally sure about your choice of macbook until you 
have seen 
quite what level of software you will need to run to do everything you need to 
do. But if 
you are reasoably confident that final cut express is the most you would need, 
I gues the 
macbook choice is safe enough.

Cheers

Steve Elbows 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Laura Moncur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks to everyone! That really helped me a lot.
 
 Since I'm not doing any 3D rendering, just straight video, it looks
 the the normal MacBook with as much RAM as I can get will be the best
 for me.
 
 I'm going to try out iMovie and see if it's enough and then move on to
 FCE if not.
 
 Thanks again!